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"What did they say ?" They referred to the murdered boy, in a very small section of the front page, as ‘sword lad’  | |||
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"Yes, bias and sensationalism. I personally strongly agree It’s not that the media sets out to be sensationalist; its business model leads it in that direction. That’s a massive problem which leads to a fixation on ratings to the exclusion of almost anything else. The outcome is a “ratings bubble” within which the media operate. The problem is multifaceted. Does media reporting change what we believe, or do our preferences shape what media we choose to consume in the first place? If we give more attention to this sensationalised and biased media, we don’t allow for media providers with verifiably objective reporting to thrive. At the same time, would it be puzzling if all that news did was provide verifiably objective information? I don’t reckon so but society as we know it would not be the same. We have far more people stopping objective, verifiable information from being spread across masses than those willing to provide. Another way talks loudest. " Here FUCKING here | |||
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""Yes, bias and sensationalism. I personally strongly agree" It’s not that the media sets out to be sensationalist; its business model leads it in that direction. That’s a massive problem which leads to a fixation on ratings to the exclusion of almost anything else. The outcome is a “ratings bubble” within which the media operate. The problem is multifaceted. Does media reporting change what we believe, or do our preferences shape what media we choose to consume in the first place? If we give more attention to this sensationalised and biased media, we don’t allow for media providers with verifiably objective reporting to thrive. At the same time, would it be puzzling if all that news did was provide verifiably objective information? I don’t reckon so but society as we know it would not be the same. We have far more people stopping objective, verifiable information from being spread across masses than those willing to provide. Another way money talks loudest." Slight edit there. Shush to me. I think to simplify what you’re saying, is it’s up to us as individuals to understand what our “pop” media outlets narrative is and listen to the wider diverse media outlets. Understanding the agenda of the corporations objective is something, unfortunate as it is, but are unaware of. | |||
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"Just don't buy the bloody rag" It would be best to disappear. Unfortunately some people do buy it/read it and it influences them. It's just  | |||
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"The Metro headline today is somehow just as bad?? " Referring to the guy as a sword killer? Evie | |||
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"What did they say ? They referred to the murdered boy, in a very small section of the front page, as ‘sword lad’ "Vile choice of language but they have previous.. | |||
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"The Metro headline today is somehow just as bad?? Referring to the guy as a sword killer? Evie " I mean, lol ok. But it’s classic stuff. ‘Mystic samurai suspect’ And the image they’ve used of him is him smiling with gold medals around his neck. Compare this to the constant reporting of other criminals? Compare this to the images used of Black *Victims* of crime? It’s literally so obvious the way the media does this I sometimes wonder if it’s all a wind up. | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON" Some of us get it, Pickle. Some of us get it  | |||
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""Yes, bias and sensationalism. I personally strongly agree" It’s not that the media sets out to be sensationalist; its business model leads it in that direction. That’s a massive problem which leads to a fixation on ratings to the exclusion of almost anything else. The outcome is a “ratings bubble” within which the media operate. The problem is multifaceted. Does media reporting change what we believe, or do our preferences shape what media we choose to consume in the first place? If we give more attention to this sensationalised and biased media, we don’t allow for media providers with verifiably objective reporting to thrive. At the same time, would it be puzzling if all that news did was provide verifiably objective information? I don’t reckon so but society as we know it would not be the same. We have far more people stopping objective, verifiable information from being spread across masses than those willing to provide. Another way money talks loudest. Slight edit there. Shush to me. I think to simplify what you’re saying, is it’s up to us as individuals to understand what our “pop” media outlets narrative is and listen to the wider diverse media outlets. Understanding the agenda of the corporations objective is something, unfortunate as it is, but are unaware of. " I’ve not seen the sun headlines for almost 4 decades since I worked in a factory age 16, and they don’t make it into my social Media. So I’m unaware of how it was reported I’d expect that would try and link to asylum seekers or failure of the Labour Party ….. I always thought it was a bit of a comic , dangerously mashing-up news , opinion and entertainment. But I can see how for some this style and also similarly DM and to a certain degree the Guardian for the lefties) fills a need. They want news, But they don’t want the police statement repeating - It’s boring, and they want to be entertained and have their biases reinforced. I used to like that Aussie newsreader who would read a line of news then pause and comment. Official facts can be boring. We don’t wanna know a man will appear in court on Monday, We wanna know how big his sword was some details of the attack injuries caused, Lucy tires of arms hanging off and what made him do it. If it was a known criminal and a drug addict or asylum seeker, we need gory details, And the Sun goes someway to giving us that, even if they make it all up. | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON" "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. " Some people like to start fires and are too scared to getting burned | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. " Well well well. If it isn’t my number one hater. Haven’t seen you round these parts in a while. | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. Some people like to start fires and are too scared to getting burned " Nobody is afraid of shit. And no subs, you can address your issues with me directly babe. | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. Well well well. If it isn’t my number one hater. Haven’t seen you round these parts in a while. " I don't hate YOU. I hate your race baiting posts. | |||
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"I can only begin to imagine what it would like for my psyche, for some immutable trait about me to be so weaponised, even when that trait is one held by the victim not the perpetrator. It's fucking disgusting and toxic. I'm glad we're talking about it more. We should talk about it until it gets flushed like the turd of culture it is." I know this is unheard of!! But I agree with you | |||
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"I’m not even gonna say too much because everyone on fab loves to call me a race baiter and say I make everything about race blah blah blah. But the S*n and the Metro front pages are just… like COME ON "I'm not gonna say too much" straight after comparing it, and making it abour race, the fuck out if here with that bullshit... If you'd like to speak of the article and the merits of your disgust, then do so, it doesn't need comparisons. Well well well. If it isn’t my number one hater. Haven’t seen you round these parts in a while. I don't hate YOU. I hate your race baiting posts. " Ok babe x | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there. "This^ If it’s that shit then economics will see its end! Some folks must like it I guess? I don’t read papers at all myself because I think they’re mostly opinion disguised as fact, but I don’t get the immature virtuous outrage to a paper that apparently “nobody wants to read”. When people rage at stuff like this it says more about themselves than the Sun. But I guess that’s why they say what they say???   | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
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If it’s that shit then economics will see its end! Some folks must like it I guess? I don’t read papers at all myself because I think they’re mostly opinion disguised as fact, but I don’t get the immature virtuous outrage to a paper that apparently “nobody wants to read”.
When people rage at stuff like this it says more about themselves than the Sun. But I guess that’s why they say what they say??? "It’s actually ok to be unhappy with the standard of journalism that thinks that the reporting of this is ok. Doesn’t mean you’re immature. But, tbf, your comment makes perfect sense.  | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there. "I don’t read it. But I think those that do are at times consuming stuff reproduces ideas about groups of individuals people. | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there. "Have you seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough? Have you seen what tabloids like The NOTW and Sun did around phone hacking and destroying people's lives? This is why it matters. The junk these publications put out can destroy lives. It's that simple. | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
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If it’s that shit then economics will see its end! Some folks must like it I guess? I don’t read papers at all myself because I think they’re mostly opinion disguised as fact, but I don’t get the immature virtuous outrage to a paper that apparently “nobody wants to read”.
When people rage at stuff like this it says more about themselves than the Sun. But I guess that’s why they say what they say??? "Oh come on. I’ve had more than my fair share of disagreements with Steve and still do but I don’t see how anyone can not see how bad this is. If that boy was white he would have been the only headline on that front page. And sword lad!! Sword lad! What the hell. It’s fucking disgusting | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
Have you seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough? Have you seen what tabloids like The NOTW and Sun did around phone hacking and destroying people's lives?
This is why it matters. The junk these publications put out can destroy lives. It's that simple. "No, I haven't seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough, because I DON'T READ IT. Many publications destroy lives - like the Bible, the Koran and the Argos catalogue. Don't burn books just because you disagree with their contents | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
Have you seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough? Have you seen what tabloids like The NOTW and Sun did around phone hacking and destroying people's lives?
This is why it matters. The junk these publications put out can destroy lives. It's that simple.
No, I haven't seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough, because I DON'T READ IT. Many publications destroy lives - like the Bible, the Koran and the Argos catalogue. Don't burn books just because you disagree with their contents "… | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
Have you seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough? Have you seen what tabloids like The NOTW and Sun did around phone hacking and destroying people's lives?
This is why it matters. The junk these publications put out can destroy lives. It's that simple.
No, I haven't seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough, because I DON'T READ IT. Many publications destroy lives - like the Bible, the Koran and the Argos catalogue. Don't burn books just because you disagree with their contents "If you don't know what happened around The Sun and News of The World in relation to what I've discussed, respectfully, you've either had blinkers on, or you weren't residing in the UK in the past 10yrs or so (a possibility). Now that you've been alerted to serious issues with these publications, I'd suggest you go and find out about it before you comment further, because it is clear that you are commenting from a position of significant ignorance. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50]" Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. " You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. " I'm not sure which bit of what I've written shows outrage *shrug* Please go and find out about the role of the British tabloid press in the Hillsborough disaster reporting and the phone hacking scandal and the generally illegal and distasteful things they have carried out, causing significant harm to many people. The tabloid press has not harmed me personally, for context. That is, however, completely irrelevant. | |||
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"If The Sun (wow, you can type it out - magic!) offends ones delicate feelings, don't read it. It's really easy to do - I've tried not reading it forever, and it works just as long as I'm constantly vigilant in case it sneaks up on me and forces me to read it. There is a lot worse in print out there.
Have you seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough? Have you seen what tabloids like The NOTW and Sun did around phone hacking and destroying people's lives?
This is why it matters. The junk these publications put out can destroy lives. It's that simple.
No, I haven't seen what The Sun did around things like Hillsborough, because I DON'T READ IT. Many publications destroy lives - like the Bible, the Koran and the Argos catalogue. Don't burn books just because you disagree with their contents
If you don't know what happened around The Sun and News of The World in relation to what I've discussed, respectfully, you've either had blinkers on, or you weren't residing in the UK in the past 10yrs or so (a possibility). Now that you've been alerted to serious issues with these publications, I'd suggest you go and find out about it before you comment further, because it is clear that you are commenting from a position of significant ignorance. "The Sun's track record is well documented. It's a PoS. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. I'm not sure which bit of what I've written shows outrage *shrug* Please go and find out about the role of the British tabloid press in the Hillsborough disaster reporting and the phone hacking scandal and the generally illegal and distasteful things they have carried out, causing significant harm to many people. The tabloid press has not harmed me personally, for context. That is, however, completely irrelevant. " Your green arrow shows outrage on many topics. A quick google tells me that the Sun has 31.1 million readers per month - nearly half the population of the UK. Why do you believe that your one voice, or even the few on this thread, should be more important, or more correct than those 31.1 million people who choose to read it? Do you believe that your opinion is more valid, or should carry more weight? If so, why? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. I'm not sure which bit of what I've written shows outrage *shrug* Please go and find out about the role of the British tabloid press in the Hillsborough disaster reporting and the phone hacking scandal and the generally illegal and distasteful things they have carried out, causing significant harm to many people. The tabloid press has not harmed me personally, for context. That is, however, completely irrelevant. Your green arrow shows outrage on many topics. A quick google tells me that the Sun has 31.1 million readers per month - nearly half the population of the UK. Why do you believe that your one voice, or even the few on this thread, should be more important, or more correct than those 31.1 million people who choose to read it? Do you believe that your opinion is more valid, or should carry more weight? If so, why?" Just go and read the history of The Sun and tabloid press and then decide on whether it just just be ignored. Have a most splendid evening. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. " No justice, no peace. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. No justice, no peace." Say no justice, no peace. And then say FTP | |||
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"What did they say ? They referred to the murdered boy, in a very small section of the front page, as ‘sword lad’ "what a way for a young innocent lad to be remembered by he was someone’s son this is very distasteful & uncalled for shame on the sun newspaper for this | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. I'm not sure which bit of what I've written shows outrage *shrug* Please go and find out about the role of the British tabloid press in the Hillsborough disaster reporting and the phone hacking scandal and the generally illegal and distasteful things they have carried out, causing significant harm to many people. The tabloid press has not harmed me personally, for context. That is, however, completely irrelevant. Your green arrow shows outrage on many topics. A quick google tells me that the Sun has 31.1 million readers per month - nearly half the population of the UK. Why do you believe that your one voice, or even the few on this thread, should be more important, or more correct than those 31.1 million people who choose to read it? Do you believe that your opinion is more valid, or should carry more weight? If so, why? Just go and read the history of The Sun and tabloid press and then decide on whether it just just be ignored. Have a most splendid evening. " I notice that you didn't answer any of my questions, but how about this one. What exactly do you want to happen to The Sun? | |||
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"Reporting of the murdered 14 year old in the London sword attack by them was appalling and they’ve been rightly called out for it. It’s all over (my) social media. Is there a problem with our media?" Murdoch’s a radioactive turd. The worst of humans. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 03/05/24 18:44:50] Yeah I saw before it was deleted. Education. Education is the answer to many, many things. You really do thrive on outrage! That's a sad way to live, but it's your choice. I hope you find peace. No justice, no peace." … fuck the police. As mr Sean Bonney said. | |||
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Sky News at times even some off their anchors be it U.K. based or abroad for example Australia have at times not been any better..
Regarding The Sun their track record is especially vile tbh either then just quietly report the incident off a young boy being violently murdered by a sword wielding psychopath they instead come up with witty nick names….
which lets face it is as bad as it is shows there is no low depth they won’t go to.
Do Right media groups have their own moments off genuine journalism or correct stories/points off value? From time to time yes they bring value or highlight subjects/issues a lot off people don’t usually wish.
Now to balance it out left wing leaning media are not always that great either be it BBC, ITV, Channel 4, The Guardian, The Independent, Daily Mirror, Morning Star and so on to various city based outlets for E.g. The M.E.N which where I live is more the local based news for Manchester and Greater Manchester Regions/Towns.
Who most would look on for to be objectionable or fairer have also had their fair share off fuck ups and retractions in their time which have falsely reported or ruined people’s lives with their narrative or undercover activities who were actually as it turned out innocent and the false reports had already caused the damage.
Looking to scoop up hot gossip or leaked information on private lives is pretty much their bread and butter so to speak they specialise in shining lights on unwanted or unknown subjects which can go viral and need to be highlighted but have as well had their fair share off questionable/shady practices..
Bottom line is media and journalists are just that some are more reasonable or believable but their true nature or agendas come to light through their work many off them are responsible in one form or the other off creating tensions or misery for people around the world.
If I made a miscalculation or error in this post I’ll acknowledge or raise my hand most off it is just stuff I made up as I went along or heard/read about or saw..  | |||
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"Reporting of the murdered 14 year old in the London sword attack by them was appalling and they’ve been rightly called out for it. It’s all over (my) social media. Is there a problem with our media? Murdoch’s a radioactive turd. The worst of humans. " Shit has a use….Murdoch doesn’t. | |||
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"Reporting of the murdered 14 year old in the London sword attack by them was appalling and they’ve been rightly called out for it. It’s all over (my) social media. Is there a problem with our media?" There are many problems with our media. We have no real coverage just propaganda. Everyone seems to think they are above such manipulative a tivities but experience tells otherwise. Like Heroin, it’s a don’t even go there thing for me | |||
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