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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members." Wasn't there guys arrested for carrying Swazstika flags at a pro palestine rally recently. Was that an Israeli PR stunt too, Mrs x | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members." Laughable | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai" In what respect? Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x" They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members." They want people to believe that these marches are antisemitic in nature. They do this stuff all the time. Look at how they portrayed BLM protestors. | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news" The holocaust memorial is regularly covered up for events and marches, it’s nothing new. For some reason people are trying to make a big thing of it now, can’t imagine why… | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. " Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members. They want people to believe that these marches are antisemitic in nature. They do this stuff all the time. Look at how they portrayed BLM protestors. " Israelis? Mrs x | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members. They want people to believe that these marches are antisemitic in nature. They do this stuff all the time. Look at how they portrayed BLM protestors. " Whatever happened to that movement. Never hear much nowadays although someone was embezzling funds | |||
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"The Holocaust was an abomination. Anti semitism is abhorrent to me. However this does not place the current actions of Israel in Palestine beyond reproach or criticism. There is simply no justification for the slaughter being carried out and the prevention of aid being given to the needy. It is simply wrong and the legacy of the Holocaust does not excuse this." I don't necessarily agree with Israels level of response but what do you think they should have done after Oct 7th and the murder, capture and torture of over 1000 of their citizens in one night? It seems there are lots of opinions on what Israel shouldn't do but little on what they should have done. Also the seems to be even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past. Mrs c | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members.Wasn't there guys arrested for carrying Swazstika flags at a pro palestine rally recently. Was that an Israeli PR stunt too, Mrs x" It's called Astroturfing. There's interesting "Leaked scenes from censored documentary reveal Israel lobbyist Noah Pollak AstroTurfing ..." The protests rely on brave Jews like Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos, and an incredible many others to realise just how ridiculous the claims of "openly Jewish" Gideon Falter actually are. | |||
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"As said above, there’s an incredible naivety in many people. I would like to remember you all of what hamas did last October, and that despite everything happening so far they still don’t want to release the hostages they still have and hide behind their civilians. But hey, so many people here thinking that we should solve this problem by exchanging chocolate boxes and teddybeary. Grow up and grow a pair." Ofc if your history starts at October 7 then there's no justification. But there's an incredible naivety in your response. Like, for example, the fact that Likud and Netenyahu promoted, and gave money to Hamas to prop them up. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/ Funny that the guy did it to basically divide and break up Palestinian statehood. Funny still how in 2023 over 600 Palestinians were killed in the non Hamas run West Bank BEFORE October 7 at the hands of Israelis. Thousands of others are held hostage in Israeli prisons including MINORS. Hundreds were killed in Gaza BEFORE October 7 in 2023. Weird that... What response ought to be given? So basically Israel propped up a terrorist organisation, in order to divide the Palestinians, who've been continuously killed and maimed in their thousands anyway. But yeah...October 7. Jokers | |||
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" ... even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past." Soon as Hamas were given money and leverage by Israel to sway the political spectrum in Gaza, they killed the PLO representatives to much glee by the Israeli government. But it's ridiculous to claim they make own goals. Just like when the Al-Ahli hospital was bombed by Israel and they claimed it was Hamas. We've seen Israel systematically bomb every hospital since then...and university...and just recently the largest humanitarian food warehouse. But yeah... Gotta be Hamas. Jokers | |||
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"As said above, there’s an incredible naivety in many people. I would like to remember you all of what hamas did last October, and that despite everything happening so far they still don’t want to release the hostages they still have and hide behind their civilians. But hey, so many people here thinking that we should solve this problem by exchanging chocolate boxes and teddybeary. Grow up and grow a pair. Ofc if your history starts at October 7 then there's no justification. But there's an incredible naivety in your response. Like, for example, the fact that Likud and Netenyahu promoted, and gave money to Hamas to prop them up. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/ Funny that the guy did it to basically divide and break up Palestinian statehood. Funny still how in 2023 over 600 Palestinians were killed in the non Hamas run West Bank BEFORE October 7 at the hands of Israelis. Thousands of others are held hostage in Israeli prisons including MINORS. Hundreds were killed in Gaza BEFORE October 7 in 2023. Weird that... What response ought to be given? So basically Israel propped up a terrorist organisation, in order to divide the Palestinians, who've been continuously killed and maimed in their thousands anyway. But yeah...October 7. Jokers " You forgot to mention the 50-100 rockets sent into Israel everyday for the last 10 years at least, doesn't seem to get a mention on the news either | |||
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" ... even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past. Soon as Hamas were given money and leverage by Israel to sway the political spectrum in Gaza, they killed the PLO representatives to much glee by the Israeli government. But it's ridiculous to claim they make own goals. Just like when the Al-Ahli hospital was bombed by Israel and they claimed it was Hamas. We've seen Israel systematically bomb every hospital since then...and university...and just recently the largest humanitarian food warehouse. But yeah... Gotta be Hamas. Jokers" Oh yeah, the hospitals that really were hamas headquarters? Wanna talk about their usual rhetoric about destroying Israel, the chants “from the river to the sea”? Wanna talk about pipes originally placed for the sewage system, pulled out by hamas to make rockets? Wanna talk about the israelian victims of the 7/10, killed, mutilated, victim of sexual violence ? Nice how you see guilt only on one side. But if I suggest you’re naive you get resentful. I’d say you’re more than naive. Troll elsewhere | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members. They want people to believe that these marches are antisemitic in nature. They do this stuff all the time. Look at how they portrayed BLM protestors. Whatever happened to that movement. Never hear much nowadays although someone was embezzling funds " I’ll tell you all about it in another thread maybe. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x" Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. " Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. " Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead. 
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. "Mate, a ceasefire involve both parts, by definition. Both parts put conditions to a ceasefire. Israel’s condition (and a very reasonable one) is the release of the hostages taken on the 7/10. Hamas won’t release them, so the fighting continues. In the meantime hamas leaders are living in a 5 star hotel in Qatar while their people die. I’ll leave it to your considerations. | |||
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"When's your birthday Tom? I'm going to buy you a huge wooden spoon "Well we can put two pencils in our nostrils, put a pair of underpants on our heads and sing la la la and pretend that these news stories are made up, Daily Fail or we can post about and debate them... Tom prefers the latter approach. But he does love. Wooden spoon. Much kinder to your non stick pans.. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x" That and the idf bombing and shooting innocent victims indiscriminantly like starving gazans trying to get food relief... | |||
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"The Holocaust was an abomination. Anti semitism is abhorrent to me. However this does not place the current actions of Israel in Palestine beyond reproach or criticism. There is simply no justification for the slaughter being carried out and the prevention of aid being given to the needy. It is simply wrong and the legacy of the Holocaust does not excuse this. I don't necessarily agree with Israels level of response but what do you think they should have done after Oct 7th and the murder, capture and torture of over 1000 of their citizens in one night? It seems there are lots of opinions on what Israel shouldn't do but little on what they should have done. Also the seems to be even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past. Mrs c" Penning people in and then bombing fuck out them, whilst then settling on the vacated land is not going to encourage peace | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. "But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to. How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel. So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
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Mate, a ceasefire involve both parts, by definition.
Both parts put conditions to a ceasefire. Israel’s condition (and a very reasonable one) is the release of the hostages taken on the 7/10. Hamas won’t release them, so the fighting continues. In the meantime hamas leaders are living in a 5 star hotel in Qatar while their people die.
I’ll leave it to your considerations."I thought they were in the hospitals and universities? | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. "Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets. | |||
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"The Holocaust was an abomination. Anti semitism is abhorrent to me. However this does not place the current actions of Israel in Palestine beyond reproach or criticism. There is simply no justification for the slaughter being carried out and the prevention of aid being given to the needy. It is simply wrong and the legacy of the Holocaust does not excuse this. I don't necessarily agree with Israels level of response but what do you think they should have done after Oct 7th and the murder, capture and torture of over 1000 of their citizens in one night? It seems there are lots of opinions on what Israel shouldn't do but little on what they should have done. Also the seems to be even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past. Mrs c Penning people in and then bombing fuck out them, whilst then settling on the vacated land is not going to encourage peace" OK but what do Hamas need to do to bring an end to this. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
Mrs x"Look, I’m going to be so real, where I’m at right now is, if there’s anyone doing up ‘but..’ to what’s being done to Palestinian people right now, I’ve got nothing to say to you. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai" I can say I am from the West and stand with Israel regardless I spent a lot of times in Israel and got to know the people and culture, still have close friends I see often, and also have been educated during my time there by a lot of different generations.
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
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Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets."They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children. It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
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Look, I’m going to be so real, where I’m at right now is, if there’s anyone doing up ‘but..’ to what’s being done to Palestinian people right now, I’ve got nothing to say to you. "Read what I said, I said I don't agree with Israels response. I certainly don't agree with any innocent lives lost. All I'm asking is what should Hamas do in this situation? Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!"Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!"But you never quote how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas, it's as if you don't want to acknowledge the horrendous acts they've done. These group of related Islamist terror organisations have committed horrendous acts all around the world but Israel are worse for retaliating for over 1000 murders in just one night. These groups have killed innocent, men, woman and children In London, New York, Paris, Germany, and Russia. Now like I said I don't agree with Israels tactics but let's be fair I don't see Israel committing terrorists acts like this all round the world. So please how should both sides resolve this? Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! But you never quote how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas, it's as if you don't want to acknowledge the horrendous acts they've done.
These group of related Islamist terror organisations have committed horrendous acts all around the world but Israel are worse for retaliating for over 1000 murders in just one night.
These groups have killed innocent, men, woman and children In London, New York, Paris, Germany, and Russia.
Now like I said I don't agree with Israels tactics but let's be fair I don't see Israel committing terrorists acts like this all round the world.
So please how should both sides resolve this?
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7"How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! But you never quote how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas, it's as if you don't want to acknowledge the horrendous acts they've done.
These group of related Islamist terror organisations have committed horrendous acts all around the world but Israel are worse for retaliating for over 1000 murders in just one night.
These groups have killed innocent, men, woman and children In London, New York, Paris, Germany, and Russia.
Now like I said I don't agree with Israels tactics but let's be fair I don't see Israel committing terrorists acts like this all round the world.
So please how should both sides resolve this?
Mrs x
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" They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children. It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!" You are wrong. That is the trouble with this subject. The gullible West has fallen hook, line and sinker for a very good PR machine funded by Iran. As I said, the UN, through their agency UNRWA, who also took part in the October 7th crimes against humanity, teach children to hate Jews. You will often see them parading in uniforms and toy guns. The UN have been criticised for years for teaching children. Parents are proud when their children achieve martyrdom. Golda Meir was right when she said that this will stop when Arab parents love their children more that they hate Jews. As for numbers. The only number you will see is the numbers you will see are provided by Hamas and little gullible Westerner falls for it. Now take off the 11,000 that were double counted. Now take off the 15,000 combatants. And the remainder died during a war and not m*rdered. Hamas Charter calls for every Jew throughout the world to be killed. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
Mrs x"Honestly... If it's a death by numbers game, or who started it, then go as far back as you'd like. From the very moment Israel became a thing. There's an awesome graph you'd be interested in. Google "The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict" and then tell us how Israel is the victim. | |||
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" They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children. It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! You are wrong. That is the trouble with this subject. The gullible West has fallen hook, line and sinker for a very good PR machine funded by Iran. As I said, the UN, through their agency UNRWA, who also took part in the October 7th crimes against humanity, teach children to hate Jews. You will often see them parading in uniforms and toy guns. The UN have been criticised for years for teaching children. Parents are proud when their children achieve martyrdom. Golda Meir was right when she said that this will stop when Arab parents love their children more that they hate Jews. As for numbers. The only number you will see is the numbers you will see are provided by Hamas and little gullible Westerner falls for it. Now take off the 11,000 that were double counted. Now take off the 15,000 combatants. And the remainder died during a war and not m*rdered. Hamas Charter calls for every Jew throughout the world to be killed." I literally don’t know you from Adam. Why would I trust you over any media source I get my information from? And not just mainstream media source by the way. Any media source that I use? | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. " i imagine the hostages are buried under the rubble with all the Palestinians who are missing, now who knocked all those buildings down i wonder | |||
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"...now who knocked all those buildings down i wonder" Everyone knows it was United Nations of Hamas! Instead of building Singapore in the middle east and loving their children ... | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! But you never quote how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas, it's as if you don't want to acknowledge the horrendous acts they've done.
These group of related Islamist terror organisations have committed horrendous acts all around the world but Israel are worse for retaliating for over 1000 murders in just one night.
These groups have killed innocent, men, woman and children In London, New York, Paris, Germany, and Russia.
Now like I said I don't agree with Israels tactics but let's be fair I don't see Israel committing terrorists acts like this all round the world.
So please how should both sides resolve this?
Mrs x
So you are ‘just asking questions’? xAre you?
Mrs x"Nah, it’s a really tired bad faith ruse that’s as see through as it gets. Some people still think it’s clever though, evidently. | |||
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"...now who knocked all those buildings down i wonder Everyone knows it was United Nations of Hamas! Instead of building Singapore in the middle east and loving their children ..." pretty sure hamas hasnt been bombing the gaza strip from the air with 2000lb bombsit does make me chuckle that people think benny nutty yahoo gives a flying fuck about the hostages, there collateral damage to him in his quest to level the gaza strip | |||
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"Let’s just be clear. Hamas have been condemned. They are condemned. We condemn them and condemn them. Rightly so for their actions. Nobody defends ganas the way people are defending the murderous acts of the Israeli state. Constantly saying ‘what about Hamas, because we are now condemning Israel is loudly telling us whose lives don’t matter to you. It’s shameful. I’ve not seen anyone ever come in these forums to defend the actions of Hamas. We are condemning the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people, why can’t you condemn that without saying ‘but’. It says a lot. " I've never said one innocent life matters more than another. I've said I don't agree with Israels tactics. However I cannot bring myself to defend the actions of Hamas. Oct 7th was murder, it wasn't an act of war or an armed conflict. A group of terrorists, crossed a border and murdered over 1000 innocents, including burning babies alive. To defend such actions would also mean I should defend other terrorist actions, such as the Tube and Bus bombings in London or the 9/11 Twin Towers attacks. After all those that committeted those attacks must have had a reason. I cannot believe you would defend such actions. That would say a lot. As for Israel, I think there is a difference from those killed as part of a military campaign is not the same asterrorism. Soldiers acting on orders are not committing murder. Even if you think the war unjust and the retaliation disproportionate. Otherwise by that logic all our squaddies in Iraq are murderers. After all they were sent there under false pretences. Not that I think you were around at the time but what about the Falklands War. We sent our whole fleet, 8000 miles away to protect a couple of thousand sheep farmers on a set of islands most Brits couldn't point out on a map. Was that a proportionate response. The loss of hundreds of lives, part of our fleet and millions of pounds? So no, I cannot defend Hamas and terrorism but I don't defend Israels response but I can understand why a state would want to defend itself after such an attack as Oct 7th. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
Mrs x"The simple answer is Israel should adhere to the un resolutions to stop settling in agreed areas.. Stop invading and throwing Palestinians out of their houses, that Palestine should have a country of their own and be able to govern and defend it, and of course hamas should release the hostages they have taken. Events done start and stop with Oct last year. Generations of families that have been abused in the last 70 years will take time to heal. Terrorism worked for Israel. It's naive to think it won't work for Palestine. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. i imagine the hostages are buried under the rubble with all the Palestinians who are missing, now who knocked all those buildings down i wonder" That’s the problem mate, as you wrote you “imagine” and “wonder”. Without the faintest evidence. Gullible people. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!"They are Hamas numbers, never been verified | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
Mrs x
The simple answer is Israel should adhere to the un resolutions to stop settling in agreed areas.. Stop invading and throwing Palestinians out of their houses, that Palestine should have a country of their own and be able to govern and defend it, and of course hamas should release the hostages they have taken. Events done start and stop with Oct last year. Generations of families that have been abused in the last 70 years will take time to heal. Terrorism worked for Israel. It's naive to think it won't work for Palestine. "Are you suggesting that Israel should forget one of the most horrible terror attack in history because of the settlement policy that, correctly, it should have abandoned years ago? That’s the naivety I was talking about. Carry on with your naivety and lack of testicles, guys. I’m going to sit here and enjoy the show with a packet of popcorn.  | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
Mrs x"Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
They are Hamas numbers, never been verified"Sssshh, stop showing them how they fell for the lies of a terrorist group! I wouldn’t be surprised if these same people would advocate for a ceasefire in Ukraine on condition of giving russia the territories they invaded | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together! But you never quote how many Israeli children have been killed by Hamas, it's as if you don't want to acknowledge the horrendous acts they've done.
These group of related Islamist terror organisations have committed horrendous acts all around the world but Israel are worse for retaliating for over 1000 murders in just one night.
These groups have killed innocent, men, woman and children In London, New York, Paris, Germany, and Russia.
Now like I said I don't agree with Israels tactics but let's be fair I don't see Israel committing terrorists acts like this all round the world.
So please how should both sides resolve this?
Mrs x
So you are ‘just asking questions’? xAre you?
Mrs x
Nah, it’s a really tired bad faith ruse that’s as see through as it gets. Some people still think it’s clever though, evidently."It's not anything, like you said I'm not clever. What I do know is there should be a two state solution. Israeli and Palestinian. I don't know how that can be achieved but I don't think that is just on one side. I just struggle with thinking that this is an aim for Hamas. Due to five previous attempts at negotiating this, four of which were out right rejected by the Arab League, due to the three No principles agreed in Khartoum. The Camp David Agreement following the Oslo Accords got closer but was doomed to fail, since Yasser Arafat negotiated this, alone and in secret from the rest of the Arab League. They claimed Arafat only did this to prop up his dwindling support in the PLO. They hated it and would never let it succeed. So to the far right of Israel. I hope that puts out my position a bit better. I've only seen what Israel should do and nothing about what Hamas should do. It's got nothing to do with bad faith, I just think if you believe so strongly in one argument you should explain why. It is what it is, is not an explanation. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
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The simple answer is Israel should adhere to the un resolutions to stop settling in agreed areas.. Stop invading and throwing Palestinians out of their houses, that Palestine should have a country of their own and be able to govern and defend it, and of course hamas should release the hostages they have taken. Events done start and stop with Oct last year. Generations of families that have been abused in the last 70 years will take time to heal. Terrorism worked for Israel. It's naive to think it won't work for Palestine. "Palestinians have a country of their own. In 1947/1948 the land area was split. A land for peace deal. Arab Muslims, led by the Mufti (who met and supported Hitler) got 80% of the land area. Israel got 20%. The 80% is called Jordan. You people really do not have a clue. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
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Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? "Hamas need to release the hostages. I wonder why they keep refusing to do so. According to you and others, they seem like a reasonable bunch of persecuted people with no guilt at all. It’s not like they used decades of western money to buy weapons instead of building a sewage system, right? | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
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Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? "if that's the case can you tell me why Israel gave up control of Gaza, not once, but twice? That would seem counter productive. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent. But that's a very simplistic view. They are undoubtedly killing innocent civilians but that's because Hamas hide behind them, place weapons in civilian properties and build tunnels under civilian structures, despite Gaza only being developed over 5 % of its land. It could have chosen to build in unpopulated parts but chose not to.
How many Israelis has Hamas killed with its rocket attacks? In fact the first thing Hamas did when Israel withdrew in 2006 was to send hundreds of rockets into Israel.
So what should Hamas do in it's part to bring and end to this? Nobody really gives a plausible answer to this.
Mrs x
The simple answer is Israel should adhere to the un resolutions to stop settling in agreed areas.. Stop invading and throwing Palestinians out of their houses, that Palestine should have a country of their own and be able to govern and defend it, and of course hamas should release the hostages they have taken. Events done start and stop with Oct last year. Generations of families that have been abused in the last 70 years will take time to heal. Terrorism worked for Israel. It's naive to think it won't work for Palestine.
Palestinians have a country of their own. In 1947/1948 the land area was split. A land for peace deal. Arab Muslims, led by the Mufti (who met and supported Hitler) got 80% of the land area. Israel got 20%. The 80% is called Jordan.
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" Israel got 20%. The 80% is called Jordan. Transjordan. Mrs x" It wasn't Mrs x. Yes, it was called Transjordan until 1949 and then changed the name. I try not to confuse people as it is complex enough. Next you will be calling Iran Persia. Incidentally, the area was meant to be called South West Syria and not Transjordan and not Palestine. Palestine is a name invented by the Romans, a corruption of Philistines. Even though the noun Palestine had been around for over six centuries, it is not mentioned in the Qu'ran even though it is the word of Allah SWT through the Prophet. The Qu'ran does mention Israel / Israelites / Jews over 40 times including naming them as the rightful owners of the land which makes Arab Muslims in the area Zandaqa. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. i imagine the hostages are buried under the rubble with all the Palestinians who are missing, now who knocked all those buildings down i wonder That’s the problem mate, as you wrote you “imagine” and “wonder”. Without the faintest evidence. Gullible people." hahaha so u think hamas took those buildings down? Wtf do you think israeli jets are doing flying about? Sight seeing mabey? | |||
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" Gullible people.hahaha so u think hamas took those buildings down? Wtf do you think israeli jets are doing flying about? Sight seeing mabey? No, they fighting a war against Iran. Hamas, in order to get the glory attacked Israel without waiting for Lebanon where Hezbollah have an estimated 150,000 guided missiles, ten times the number they had in the 1980's when they attacked. By the end of this year, Iran will have a nuclear weapon thanks to the UN turning a blind eye" and? We have nukes and france and the u.s and even Israel even though there not supposed have them, wat other countrys make is no one elses buisness or are we the only ones allowed them? | |||
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" Gullible people.hahaha so u think hamas took those buildings down? Wtf do you think israeli jets are doing flying about? Sight seeing mabey? No, they fighting a war against Iran. Hamas, in order to get the glory attacked Israel without waiting for Lebanon where Hezbollah have an estimated 150,000 guided missiles, ten times the number they had in the 1980's when they attacked. By the end of this year, Iran will have a nuclear weapon thanks to the UN turning a blind eyeand? We have nukes and france and the u.s and even Israel even though there not supposed have them, wat other countrys make is no one elses buisness or are we the only ones allowed them? " As it turns out you are wrong. All the countries in the world, including Iran,except four (, Israel, Pakistan, and South Sudan ) signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty. | |||
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" Gullible people.hahaha so u think hamas took those buildings down? Wtf do you think israeli jets are doing flying about? Sight seeing mabey? No, they fighting a war against Iran. Hamas, in order to get the glory attacked Israel without waiting for Lebanon where Hezbollah have an estimated 150,000 guided missiles, ten times the number they had in the 1980's when they attacked. By the end of this year, Iran will have a nuclear weapon thanks to the UN turning a blind eyeand? We have nukes and france and the u.s and even Israel even though there not supposed have them, wat other countrys make is no one elses buisness or are we the only ones allowed them? As it turns out you are wrong. All the countries in the world, including Iran,except four (, Israel, Pakistan, and South Sudan ) signed the nuclear non proliferation treaty. " it dosent matter what you sign no one takes any notice, us and the u.s have signed up to the geneva convention dosent stop us commiting war crimes and walking away scot free | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
Mrs x
Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? if that's the case can you tell me why Israel gave up control of Gaza, not once, but twice? That would seem counter productive.
Mrs x"When did they give up control of gaza? Depending of course on what you mean my Control? The freedom to police and arm and defend and health service and Control it's borders and imports and exports? | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
Mrs x
Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? if that's the case can you tell me why Israel gave up control of Gaza, not once, but twice? That would seem counter productive.
Mrs x
When did they give up control of gaza? Depending of course on what you mean my Control?
The freedom to police and arm and defend and health service and Control it's borders and imports and exports? "After the 6 day war they took Gaza from Egypt and subsequently gave it up. Also since 2005 they have withdrawn completely from Gaza. Hamas have been in control ever since. Mrs x | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas" It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair. | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair." they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about | |||
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"The Holocaust was an abomination. Anti semitism is abhorrent to me. However this does not place the current actions of Israel in Palestine beyond reproach or criticism. There is simply no justification for the slaughter being carried out and the prevention of aid being given to the needy. It is simply wrong and the legacy of the Holocaust does not excuse this. I don't necessarily agree with Israels level of response but what do you think they should have done after Oct 7th and the murder, capture and torture of over 1000 of their citizens in one night? It seems there are lots of opinions on what Israel shouldn't do but little on what they should have done. Also the seems to be even less about Hamas and what they should or shouldn't do, given that they have been complicent in the murder of their own civilians in the past. Mrs c" I don't necessarily think that the October 7 action was the starting point of this dispute. There has been a long running series of actions preceding this. It has consistently been Israel's policy that for every one of ours ten of yours and I am not unsympathetic to those wanting to respond to this. I certainly agree the October 7 action was provocative and ill advised but Israel's response is completely disproportionate and far outweighs that action. Was there a correct response? I don't know but this bloodshed simply needs to stop. | |||
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"When did they give up control of gaza? Depending of course on what you mean my Control? The freedom to police and arm and defend and health service and Control it's borders and imports and exports? " In 1967, Egypt were the military occupiers of Gaza. Egypt used Gaza and Sinai, together with four other Arab nations who surround Israel to launch a concerted attack on Israel. That is five nations against one. For security, Israel took over Gaza and Sinai, and in the following peace talks, Israel tried to return Sinai and Gaza as part of a land for peace deal. Egypt accepted the return of Sinai but refused to take Gaza. Later Egypt built a blockade to prevent Gazans going to Egypt. In recent times, Egypt has moved forty tanks into the area, together with troops, to prevent a mass Gazan escape. So Israel was stuck with Gaza and they did build hospitals and schools. In recent years it was hoped that Gaza could become another Hong Kong or Singapore but this was declined. Israel also offered to help develop the off shore oil fields but this was declined. To install a civilian administration, Israel did help Hamas to takeover Gaza. The Hamas then were moderates but have since been killed or exiled by the Hamas of today. The people of Gaza elected their Hamas administrators and Israel left Gaza in 2005ish. Israel also self ethnically cleansed Gaza of Jews and forced 9,000 Jews to leave their homes in Gaza for their own safety - a wise move. Since then the Christian population, dhimmies , has fallen by 2/3. They will be eradicated, ethnically cleansed over time. | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai In what respect? Mrs x They aren’t really killing innocent people. We’re just imagining it. That pregnant woman who died and whose baby has just died? Imaginary. Innocent people are definitely being killed. On both sides, unfortunately for Gazans, Hamas hide behind their civilians and this pushes up the death toll of innocent victims dramatically. Mrs x Ceasefire. Call a fucking ceasefire. Hamas need to release all hostages. That’s a condicio sine qua non for a ceasefire. Guess what? They repeatedly refused to do so, despite international pressure. Yes they do. But ISRAEL also need to stop killing innocent people. BUT, I know, Let’s just kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women and children instead.
Excellent.
Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas. They are not separate. It is like saying that the UK Territorial Army is not part of the British Army. On October 7th, Hamas, other Iranian backed militia and about 15,000 "poor innocent Gazans" crossed the border and butchered, r*ped, m*rdered and k*dnapped. On their return the poor innocent Gazans (male, female and children (who are taught to hate by the UN) rejoiced and celebrated in the streets.
They are separate. Children, by definition, weren’t even alive when Hamas took over Gaza. Also- they’re children.
It’s genuinely repulsive that you think there’s justification for murdering innocent people like this. Regardless of ‘side’. You can’t talk about how horrible things are one way. Since October over 35,000 people have been murdered. And you’re coming on the internet to do up justification and deflection. Get it together!
Supporters of Israel come straight out of a comic book. It's why they claim Palestinians are Amolek. 58000 settlement homes were given the A ok in the beginning of 2023. But hey... It all started October 7 How far do you want to go back, I presume only to those dates supporting your narrative.
Mrs x
Go back as far as you want. The formation of Israel and the invasion, destruction and settlement of lands is part of the problem. The indiscriminate bombing and shooting and destruction has nothing to do with recovering any hostages it's just revenge which is not going to lead to peace. Then they wonder why people form a judgement.? if that's the case can you tell me why Israel gave up control of Gaza, not once, but twice? That would seem counter productive.
Mrs x
When did they give up control of gaza? Depending of course on what you mean my Control?
The freedom to police and arm and defend and health service and Control it's borders and imports and exports? After the 6 day war they took Gaza from Egypt and subsequently gave it up. Also since 2005 they have withdrawn completely from Gaza. Hamas have been in control ever since.
Mrs x"Israel has maintained control over gaza and the West Bank since 1967. Allowing gazans to elect a government is not ceding control. Did they have freedom to import water? Food? Materials? To defend themselves? To import weapons? To name but a few. Strangely you seem to think it's a good think that gaza which Israel invaded and took from Egypt was a good thing. | |||
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" I don't necessarily think that the October 7 action was the starting point of this dispute. There has been a long running series of actions preceding this. It has consistently been Israel's policy that for every one of ours ten of yours and I am not unsympathetic to those wanting to respond to this. I certainly agree the October 7 action was provocative and ill advised but Israel's response is completely disproportionate and far outweighs that action. Was there a correct response? I don't know but this bloodshed simply needs to stop. " "Israel's response is completely disproportionate." Here are two quotes from the Hamas leadership (in the safety of their luxury). Both were recorded in interviews and are in the public domain. "We are proud to sacrifice our people in Gaza for Jihad". " October 7th will happen time and time again". In the context of proportionality, what would you do. Talking to Hamas won't work, 20 years of talking didn't work. Providing free water, energy, employment, additional hospital services and more didn't work. | |||
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"Israel has maintained control over gaza and the West Bank since 1967. Allowing gazans to elect a government is not ceding control. Did they have freedom to import water? Food? Materials? To defend themselves? To import weapons? To name but a few. Strangely you seem to think it's a good think that gaza which Israel invaded and took from Egypt was a good thing. " You are wrong. Your views are malignant. Have you any idea what Gaza used to be like? Gaza produced more than enough food and water for the population. As the population grew (remember contraception is Haram) they needed more and desalination plants wee installed which needed energy. Guess where the kit came from? In 1967 Egypt attacked Israel from Gaza and Sinai (together with FOUR other Arab nations). But you say that Israel invaded and took Gaza from Egypt. Can you not understand that you really have no clue about the history. Did the Americans, Russians and the British stop at the German border in 1945? Of course not. When Israel left Gaza in 2005, nearly twenty years ago. Since then, rockets have been fired into Israel every week with very little response. Why do you think that Israeli homes have safe rooms. Since then over $16 billion of foreign aid went into Gaza. $10 billion went into the personal pockets of the Hamas leadership. The bulk of the rest went into the Hamas war machine. Peanuts went to the Gazans. Good such as food is routinely taken by Hamas and sold at high prices to Gazans. They have the freedom to import water. Indeed, if Hamas hadn't destroyed some of the pipework to make home made rockets, it may not have been needed. In any event Israel have been supplying some 5% of the water supply free of charge for years. Also energy. There are at least four points of entry to Gaza, one of which is Israel. Those Iranian rockets do not appear magically out of the genie's lamp. If you think logically, Israel is surrounded by hostile nations. It is outnumbered and outgunned. It is only the technology and training that keeps it alive. Why would Israel cast the first stone. Israel retaliates not attack. For every major incident you will see that Israel retaliates. You have to understand the Khartoum agreement signed by Arab nations. It contains the Three No's. No peace with Israel. No recognition of Israel. No negotiations with Israel. The attack on Israel by the people of Gaza was as a direct result of the imminent sign of agreements between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Morocco. | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about" So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue. | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about" So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue. | |||
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"It's an Israeli PR stunt and it disgusts me. They've held 13 marches without incident. There was a Holocaust survivor on the march, as well as their family members. They want people to believe that these marches are antisemitic in nature. They do this stuff all the time. Look at how they portrayed BLM protestors. Israelis? Mrs x" Zionism is a racist and settler colonialist movement, which opportunistically coopts aspects of Judaism in an attempt to justify its criminal practices of apartheid and genocide of indigenous Palestinians. White supremacy is dominant within Israeli society, which privileges white-skinned Ashkenazi Jews at the expense of dark-skinned African Jews, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews as well as African refugees. African/black Jewish communities are often denied recognition by Israeli authorities with some members even deported. Apartheid genocidal state Israel has admitted that it has been giving Ethiopian Jewish immigrants birth-control injections, often without their knowledge or consent. | |||
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Tom is not responsible for the content of the thread, the individuals who contribute to it are, there would be no shit to stir if not for the contributions of others, individuals carry the responsibility of what they contribute, no one else. "Some would consider this comment to be naive. | |||
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Tom is not responsible for the content of the thread, the individuals who contribute to it are, there would be no shit to stir if not for the contributions of others, individuals carry the responsibility of what they contribute, no one else.
Some would consider this comment to be naive."Is it? Really? Shock horror! People taking responsibility for their own contributions! Tom starts threads , no one is compelled to contribute to them, anyone who doesn’t want to get involved can stay away and the content of the thread will be unknown to them and not affect them. The problem is, they can’t stay away, that is on them, no one else. | |||
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What's in the news that day..."Also in the news this week The United Nations human rights office reported on the discovery of mass graves outside of two hospitals in Gaza with hundreds of bodies, including some who were found with their hands tied and stripped of their clothes killed brutally by IDF Nazi terrorists. Among the deceased were children, older people, women and wounded, were found tied with their hand behind their backs and stripped of their clothes, said Ravina Shamdasani, a spokesperson for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights. | |||
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The United Nations human rights office reported on the discovery of mass graves outside of two hospitals in Gaza with hundreds of bodies, including some who were found with their hands tied and stripped of their clothes killed brutally by IDF Nazi terrorists.
Among the deceased were children, older people, women and wounded, were found tied with their hand behind their backs and stripped of their clothes, said Ravina Shamdasani, a spokesperson for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights."Please don't reports the facts because the ostriches don't like it.. | |||
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"Apologies from Tom on starting a thread based on the news that tens and tens of thousands march each week in support/protest every week to raise awareness of a international issue that som people think is important or very important or extremely important. Alternatively, let's pretend that none of this has happened and is happening and will happen. Let's pretend that there is no extra security and no extra police patrols and no increase in harassment of at least one of our communities. Let's pretend that there was no incursion and hostages taken. Let's pretend that civilians are being killed, are starving and have few food and medical supplies. Now looking through that lens and never daring to mention it then isn't life dandy in the UK. Perhaps Tom is a troll maybe Tom should become agent of the State. Tom remembers the headline in two newspapers when an American Sailing boat raced a Soviet sailing boat. Headlines in America. USA beat Russia in sailing race. In the Soviet paper, Gallant Russia come second and USA next to last. It's all over the news" The trouble is that people in the West are gullible and really do not have a clue. Your square peg values really don't fit into their round holes values. Again, as a matter of public record, both Iran and Hamas have called the Western protesters "useful idiots". Their words not mine. It goes alongside " we are proud to sacrifice our people in Gaza for Jihad" and "October 7th will happen time and time again". | |||
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The United Nations human rights office reported on the discovery of mass graves outside of two hospitals in Gaza with hundreds of bodies, including some who were found with their hands tied and stripped of their clothes killed brutally by IDF Nazi terrorists.
Among the deceased were children, older people, women and wounded, were found tied with their hand behind their backs and stripped of their clothes, said Ravina Shamdasani, a spokesperson for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights."Another statement that only contains half truths from you. The UN said they are going to help find out about the nature of the claims. They haven't said which side are responsible but they are concerned about the number of bodies found at these sites. You love to use the word Nazi when talking about the IDF, also describing them as terrorists. You may not agree with their tactics but it doesn't make them terrorists. You weaken your argument by twisting facts to suit your narrative and you also come across as anti semitic. Mrs x | |||
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"I am Jewish. My father was the sole survivor of the Holocaust. The gullible West have not got a clue as to what is going on. Am Yisrael Chai I can say I am from the West and stand with Israel regardless I spent a lot of times in Israel and got to know the people and culture, still have close friends I see often, and also have been educated during my time there by a lot of different generations.
"Zionists portray Israel as a progressive, democratic safe haven that helps Jews escape antisemitism. In reality it is a violent, racist state that exists to serve as colonial outpost in Middle East. A failed state. Failed to protect its citizens, failed to protect our interests in the region. Burden on our economy and treasury. Satanyahu is seeking to trap the west into unnecessary wars across the Middle East that would have incalculable consequences for the region and the world. Current Israeli regime is a liability not an asset. | |||
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" You love to use the word Nazi when talking about the IDF, also describing them as terrorists. You may not agree with their tactics but it doesn't make them terrorists. You weaken your argument by twisting facts to suit your narrative and you also come across as anti semitic. Mrs x" If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. IDF is most funded terrorists organisation who pretends to be a regular army. You have cheapen antisemitic card so much that Calling people anti semite for speaking out against apartheid Israeli regime ongoing holocaust against Palestinians is like calling someone anti semite and if they speak out against Jeffrey Epstein crimes | |||
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" You love to use the word Nazi when talking about the IDF, also describing them as terrorists. You may not agree with their tactics but it doesn't make them terrorists. You weaken your argument by twisting facts to suit your narrative and you also come across as anti semitic. Mrs x If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. IDF is most funded terrorists organisation who pretends to be a regular army. You have cheapen antisemitic card so much that Calling people anti semite for speaking out against apartheid Israeli regime ongoing holocaust against Palestinians is like calling someone anti semite and if they speak out against Jeffrey Epstein crimes "You scrapping the barrel with that last analogy. As for apartheid, you do know the Palestinian population in Israel stands at just over 2 million, or 20% of the total population of Israel. As for your duck analogy, everything you quack smacks of jew hatred, so if you sound like a duck, you get the rest.... Mrs x | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue." i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out there | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out there" I do, tell us Mrs x | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out there" In a corner with your head between your legs in a blubbering mess 
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs x" id clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs xid clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, " Would either side want to go, isn't that a major sticking point right now? How would you level it, Israel has nukes and wouldn't take kindly to that? Mrs x | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs xid clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, " Shoulda stayed in the drafts boo | |||
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" Zionists portray Israel as a progressive, democratic safe haven that helps Jews escape antisemitism. In reality it is a violent, racist state that exists to serve as colonial outpost in Middle East. A failed state. Failed to protect its citizens, failed to protect our interests in the region. Burden on our economy and treasury. Satanyahu is seeking to trap the west into unnecessary wars across the Middle East that would have incalculable consequences for the region and the world. Current Israeli regime is a liability not an asset." There speaks the voice of ignorance. You really do not have a clue, or if you do, you are hiding it very well. | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs xid clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, Would either side want to go, isn't that a major sticking point right now? How would you level it, Israel has nukes and wouldn't take kindly to that? Mrs x" Israel nuclear weapons are the “biggest threat to the peace and security in the region and the world, Netanyahu threatened neighbouring countries at the United Nations with "nuclear threat" in 2023 then backtracked. Minister Amichai Eliyahu, a member of Israel’s far-right Jewish Power party in an interview suggested dropping "some kind of atomic bomb" on Gaza "to kill everyone.” Israel does not officially acknowledge its possession of nuclear weapons and refused to sign NPT. It’s about time USA and European allies put sanctions on its nuclear program. | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs xid clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, Would either side want to go, isn't that a major sticking point right now? How would you level it, Israel has nukes and wouldn't take kindly to that? Mrs x Israel nuclear weapons are the “biggest threat to the peace and security in the region and the world, Netanyahu threatened neighbouring countries at the United Nations with "nuclear threat" in 2023 then backtracked. Minister Amichai Eliyahu, a member of Israel’s far-right Jewish Power party in an interview suggested dropping "some kind of atomic bomb" on Gaza "to kill everyone.” Israel does not officially acknowledge its possession of nuclear weapons and refused to sign NPT. It’s about time USA and European allies put sanctions on its nuclear program. Says you, quack, quack Mrs x" The US has found five units of the Israeli security forces responsible for gross violations of human rights, over incidents in the West Bank before the current Gaza war, the state department has said. The findings come at a time when Israel is facing accountability from the international criminal court and the state department for its conduct of the conflict in Gaza, in which more than 34,000 people have been killed | |||
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"Then, as far as you are concerned, no laws apply. No treaties are to be honoured. Everything should be the Wild West. So why the concern about Gaza? Let them get on with it.i dont have any concern about gaza or Israel not my circus not my monkeys, i just dont like the hypocricy of those who think the idf and benny boys goverment are the good guys, there just as blood thirsty as hamas It’s easier to say “they’re all bad”, isn’t it? Saves you from informing yourself, studying, learning, applying some critical thinking, engaging your brain and, crucially, from taking a clear position. That’s why I was inviting people to grow up and grow a pair.they are all bad, personaly id call them all bloodthirsty war pigs, you keep telling people to inform themselves but dont mention where they could find all this info, and grow a pair wtf are you on about So, now I need to tell you where to get your info? Start with recent history, I would say. And I stand by my comment: you guys are too lazy to put some effort into informing yourself, and too scared to recognise the truth. Much easier to call everyone a warmonger and believe to be the epitome of virtue.i see your still not telling us we can find this truth you talk of, and epitome of virtue lol, belive me you dont wana know how id end the war out thereI do, tell us Mrs xid clear the whole area jewish to the usa or europe palastinians to iran then level the whole place back to the bedrock and make it uninhabitable then neither side can argue about whos imaginary friend gave them the rights to it, Would either side want to go, isn't that a major sticking point right now? How would you level it, Israel has nukes and wouldn't take kindly to that? Mrs x Israel nuclear weapons are the “biggest threat to the peace and security in the region and the world, Netanyahu threatened neighbouring countries at the United Nations with "nuclear threat" in 2023 then backtracked. Minister Amichai Eliyahu, a member of Israel’s far-right Jewish Power party in an interview suggested dropping "some kind of atomic bomb" on Gaza "to kill everyone.” Israel does not officially acknowledge its possession of nuclear weapons and refused to sign NPT. It’s about time USA and European allies put sanctions on its nuclear program. Says you, quack, quack Mrs x The US has found five units of the Israeli security forces responsible for gross violations of human rights, over incidents in the West Bank before the current Gaza war, the state department has said. The findings come at a time when Israel is facing accountability from the international criminal court and the state department for its conduct of the conflict in Gaza, in which more than 34,000 people have been killed Should start calling you Arthur cos you only tell half the story. The ICC are looking into both Israel and Hamas over the latest conflict in Gaza.
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Mrs x"It's not a game of killing top trumps though is it? The idf "terror" attacks are somehow legitimsed as war because they are a nation state, ironically born from a long campaign of terrorism. The hamas terror attacks are abhorrent but because they have no recognised nation state are (rightly) labelled as terror. Somehow they have to find a peace but it's increasingly hard to see how when it continues to be escalated. | |||
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It's not a game of killing top trumps though is it? The idf "terror" attacks are somehow legitimsed as war because they are a nation state, ironically born from a long campaign of terrorism. The hamas terror attacks are abhorrent but because they have no recognised nation state are (rightly) labelled as terror. Somehow they have to find a peace but it's increasingly hard to see how when it continues to be escalated. "IDF are soldiers. The Israeli army. Would you say British squaddies are terrorists because they fought in the Iraq war? I don't think you would. So why are the IDF terrorists? Mrs x | |||
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"USS Cole. The Twin Towers and Pentagon. Iraq. Libya. Afghanistan. London 7/7. Manchester Arena. Fusilier Lee Rigby, Bali. Barcelona. Moscow. Paris. Charlie Hebdo and numerous other attacks including r*pe and m*rder. October 7th. Same people. Same agenda." You should realise it by now that USA and Europian allies aren’t interested in Satanyahu unnecessary wars in Middle East or with Iran. Forget Russia, biggest threat to us comes from Israel. with friends like these who needs enemies? | |||
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"Hilarious. Most of the commentators here are a bunch of spineless pricks. Now I know how you’d react if your country was invaded or victim of a horrible terrorist attack from your neighbouring country. Let me guess: most of you miss jeremy corbyn and want peace in the world by giving russia what they want and telling Israel to stop reacting to the hundreds of missiles hamas fired at them every day for the past years? Close enough? Grow some testicles. This is a war. Of course it’s horrible, but you won’t stop it with nice words. If you want peace, prepare for war Can't disagree with you there. We know how you react when IDF terrorist deliberately killed our brave ex military volunteers John Chapman, James Kirby and James Henderson. Still no apology from terrorist regime. Do you condemn IDF terrorists for these killings. It’s simple answer yes or No? Only a spineless prick would not condemn these bastards! Weren't these guys proved to have been working as private armed security for the charity? Basically, mercenaries? It's not as though they were on active duty representing the UK military. They were air workers not mercenaries. They served and fought for this country, your comment makes me sick and I find your comments insulting towards the families of these brave men. And you have no balls to condemn IDF for killing of British citizens Muslim terror groups have killed over 60 from the UK in the last few years but no condemnation from you.
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It's not a game of killing top trumps though is it? The idf "terror" attacks are somehow legitimsed as war because they are a nation state, ironically born from a long campaign of terrorism. The hamas terror attacks are abhorrent but because they have no recognised nation state are (rightly) labelled as terror. Somehow they have to find a peace but it's increasingly hard to see how when it continues to be escalated. IDF are soldiers. The Israeli army. Would you say British squaddies are terrorists because they fought in the Iraq war? I don't think you would. So why are the IDF terrorists?
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"Hilarious. Most of the commentators here are a bunch of spineless pricks. Now I know how you’d react if your country was invaded or victim of a horrible terrorist attack from your neighbouring country. Let me guess: most of you miss jeremy corbyn and want peace in the world by giving russia what they want and telling Israel to stop reacting to the hundreds of missiles hamas fired at them every day for the past years? Close enough? Grow some testicles. This is a war. Of course it’s horrible, but you won’t stop it with nice words. If you want peace, prepare for war Can't disagree with you there. We know how you react when IDF terrorist deliberately killed our brave ex military volunteers John Chapman, James Kirby and James Henderson. Still no apology from terrorist regime. Do you condemn IDF terrorists for these killings. It’s simple answer yes or No? Only a spineless prick would not condemn these bastards! Weren't these guys proved to have been working as private armed security for the charity? Basically, mercenaries? It's not as though they were on active duty representing the UK military. They were air workers not mercenaries. They served and fought for this country, your comment makes me sick and I find your comments insulting towards the families of these brave men. And you have no balls to condemn IDF for killing of British citizens Muslim terror groups have killed over 60 from the UK in the last few years but no condemnation from you.
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It's not a game of killing top trumps though is it? The idf "terror" attacks are somehow legitimsed as war because they are a nation state, ironically born from a long campaign of terrorism. The hamas terror attacks are abhorrent but because they have no recognised nation state are (rightly) labelled as terror. Somehow they have to find a peace but it's increasingly hard to see how when it continues to be escalated. IDF are soldiers. The Israeli army. Would you say British squaddies are terrorists because they fought in the Iraq war? I don't think you would. So why are the IDF terrorists?
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"Hilarious. Most of the commentators here are a bunch of spineless pricks. Now I know how you’d react if your country was invaded or victim of a horrible terrorist attack from your neighbouring country. Let me guess: most of you miss jeremy corbyn and want peace in the world by giving russia what they want and telling Israel to stop reacting to the hundreds of missiles hamas fired at them every day for the past years? Close enough? Grow some testicles. This is a war. Of course it’s horrible, but you won’t stop it with nice words. If you want peace, prepare for war Can't disagree with you there. We know how you react when IDF terrorist deliberately killed our brave ex military volunteers John Chapman, James Kirby and James Henderson. Still no apology from terrorist regime. Do you condemn IDF terrorists for these killings. It’s simple answer yes or No? Only a spineless prick would not condemn these bastards! Weren't these guys proved to have been working as private armed security for the charity? Basically, mercenaries? It's not as though they were on active duty representing the UK military. They were air workers not mercenaries. They served and fought for this country, your comment makes me sick and I find your comments insulting towards the families of these brave men. And you have no balls to condemn IDF for killing of British citizens Muslim terror groups have killed over 60 from the UK in the last few years but no condemnation from you.
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It's not a game of killing top trumps though is it? The idf "terror" attacks are somehow legitimsed as war because they are a nation state, ironically born from a long campaign of terrorism. The hamas terror attacks are abhorrent but because they have no recognised nation state are (rightly) labelled as terror. Somehow they have to find a peace but it's increasingly hard to see how when it continues to be escalated. IDF are soldiers. The Israeli army. Would you say British squaddies are terrorists because they fought in the Iraq war? I don't think you would. So why are the IDF terrorists?
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" Coming from a genocide supporter who refused to condemn IDF terrorists for killing of Ex military British servicemen
Having seen your posts in numerous places, I am yet to see you condemn the massacre, mutilation and sexual violence inflicted by Hamas on October 7th.
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news" In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.” | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.”"Israeli media indicates that Israeli officials are worried about the winds changing with the International Criminal Court (ICC) reportedly planning to charge top Israeli military and political figures with war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.”
Israeli media indicates that Israeli officials are worried about the winds changing with the International Criminal Court (ICC) reportedly planning to charge top Israeli military and political figures with war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza "Come on Arthur where are the sources so we can read the other half? Mrs x | |||
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"And here's more.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo Shameful. But what about..... " You are right this is shameful and once it's gone through due process, if found guilty, those responsible should face the harshest punishment.. Mrs x | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.”"Aaaah, Colombia. Now that’s a paradigm of democracy. Bit like Nicaragua, or Iran, or North Korea  | |||
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"And here's more.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo Shameful. But what about..... " Doesn't he look innocent. A paragon of virtue. Just like over 1,200 innocent people who were murdered on October 7th. All you need now is the truth but there are no black and whites, rights and wrongs. It all depends on perspective and if you are anti semetic then it really doesn't matter what happened, you will always believe what you want to believe. Cast your mind back a few years ago to Belfast. I remember listening to an interview with a young soldier about 19 years old about what you do when a ten year old lad, brought up to hate by his parents and his religion, throws a petrol bomb at you personally. Think on. It happened on your doorstep. | |||
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"As an Irish Catholic girl, the Troubles were very real. Mrs x" Very true and you saw daily what was happening. You saw the "Disappeared", a total disgrace of humanity. You also saw the atrocities caused by the Protestant side (UDA, UDF, Red Hand etc). But they never got the bad press. You have the unedifying spectacle of the Derry Boys and the July 12th parades. You also have Knights of St Columba. The Ancient Order of Hibernians and the Orange Lodge. That is a brief view, from the outside, it is complex. But all these ignorant people on this thread who thinks that the issue is simple. Cease fire now, Israel is wrong, send them all to jail, shows these morons that they really are nice white middle class know nothings. | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.”
Aaaah, Colombia. Now that’s a paradigm of democracy. Bit like Nicaragua, or Iran, or North Korea "And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. | |||
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"Some commentators are frustrated that a memorial to holcaust victims in Hyde Park was covered up in case of damage from marchers who attended Hyde Park. Now shops and bars have been boarding up windows for years for certain demonstrations. Is this any different. It's all over the news In other News Colombian president says government will sever Israel ties over Gaza ‘genocide
Addressing a May Day rally in Bogotá on Wednesday, Gustavo Petro again described Israel’s siege of Gaza as “genocide”.
“Tomorrow, diplomatic relations with the state of Israel will be broken … for having a genocidal president,” Petro said, adding: “If Palestine dies, humanity dies, and we are not going to let it die.”
Aaaah, Colombia. Now that’s a paradigm of democracy. Bit like Nicaragua, or Iran, or North Korea
And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."But you don't acknowledge all the Palestinians living in Israel. How about the 60 x increase in Palestinians who serve in the IDF. The number of Palestinians who are actually politicians within the Israeli parliament. All these things that contradict your antisemitic views. Mrs x | |||
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" And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict." As you have amply demonstrated so many times, you really have not got a clue. You have been reading too much Iranian propaganda and, although an adult, your in built antisemiticism enables you to believe lies. And anything we say, anything we explain, to people like you won't be heard because you don't listen, you don't learn. You have the same mentality as Iran and Hamas. | |||
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" And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. As you have amply demonstrated so many times, you really have not got a clue. You have been reading too much Iranian propaganda and, although an adult, your in built antisemiticism enables you to believe lies. And anything we say, anything we explain, to people like you won't be heard because you don't listen, you don't learn. You have the same mentality as Iran and Hamas." These threads are brilliant. People like you post only to expose themselves. With spineless geniuses like you, If anything after 7th October. World clearly sees the ugly religious ideology of Zionism exposed. You have cheapen antisemitism so much that it means nothing anymore to you. Whole world is antisemitic to you. Have a good day | |||
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" Atleast 34,183 people have been killed and 77,084 have been wounded in Israeli attacks. About 72 percent of those killed are women and children. Mass graves, human rights violations on industrial scale, crippled hospitals, thousands of civilian deaths and near total destruction of infrastructure and this holocaust is still on going and you say couple of soldiers fucked up. That’s just not Gaza, At least 507 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank in 2023 before 7th October including 81 children. Definitely a terrorists army. IDF are terrorists just like ISIS. " Please stop posting, it is embarrassing. All you are doing is making us question whether community care is a good thing. The number of casualties come from, and only ever come from, Hamas. No one else. Nowadays, media outlets qualify the number because they know the source and its reliability. So, guess who benefits from a high casualty rate - Hamas. Guess who had no idea of the population of Gaza on October 6th - Hamas. Guess who has no means of counting the number of deaths, injuries and severity of injuries - Hamas. Guess who doesn't know how many people are under the rubble - Hamas. Guess who doesn't know how many people have been vaporised by high explosives - Hamas. Guess who were admonished by double counting 11,000 people in the fictional number of deaths - Hamas. Guess who finally admitted that the fictional number of deaths include 15,000 combatants - Hamas. So, your numbers that you publish as fact only show you to be ignorant and close minded. | |||
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" And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. As you have amply demonstrated so many times, you really have not got a clue. You have been reading too much Iranian propaganda and, although an adult, your in built antisemiticism enables you to believe lies. And anything we say, anything we explain, to people like you won't be heard because you don't listen, you don't learn. You have the same mentality as Iran and Hamas. These threads are brilliant. People like you post only to expose themselves. With spineless geniuses like you, If anything after 7th October. World clearly sees the ugly religious ideology of Zionism exposed. You have cheapen antisemitism so much that it means nothing anymore to you. Whole world is antisemitic to you. Have a good day "Quack, quack, you hate Jews, can't be more obvious. Mrs x | |||
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"And here's more.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo Shameful. But what about..... Doesn't he look innocent. A paragon of virtue. Just like over 1,200 innocent people who were murdered on October 7th. All you need now is the truth but there are no black and whites, rights and wrongs. It all depends on perspective and if you are anti semetic then it really doesn't matter what happened, you will always believe what you want to believe. Cast your mind back a few years ago to Belfast. I remember listening to an interview with a young soldier about 19 years old about what you do when a ten year old lad, brought up to hate by his parents and his religion, throws a petrol bomb at you personally. Think on. It happened on your doorstep. " There have been other conflicts. Not sure why or how they Contribute to this discussion. The idf have committed atrocities and war crimes and should be held to account. Now, think on this. The young angelic lad who was shot in the head by the idf whilst running away. How do you imagine his family are going to feel about the idf..? Will they welcome them or will they feel differently.? So yes, kids are brought up to hate... And it works on all sides. As for hamas (and other) atrocities, of course they should follow due process too, crime is crime. Murder is murder and the sad trope that shit happens in war does not i any excuse it. | |||
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"And here's more.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo Shameful. But what about..... You are right this is shameful and once it's gone through due process, if found guilty, those responsible should face the harshest punishment.. Mrs x On that we agree. The IDF cannot credibly investigate its own crimes in occupied Palestian." No of course they can't. Isn't that what the un war crimes commission is for.? | |||
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" And you think Israel is a democratic country. Just like apartheid South Africa once, Israel considers itself a democracy but in reality it is violent , racist colonial outpost. Trying to convince the world that Israel is indeed a democracy and failed efforts to whitewash Israel’s apartheid regime in Palestine by framing it as a “conflict” between two equal sides. Instead of calling a spade a spade and Israel an apartheid regime, you talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. As you have amply demonstrated so many times, you really have not got a clue. You have been reading too much Iranian propaganda and, although an adult, your in built antisemiticism enables you to believe lies. And anything we say, anything we explain, to people like you won't be heard because you don't listen, you don't learn. You have the same mentality as Iran and Hamas. These threads are brilliant. People like you post only to expose themselves. With spineless geniuses like you, If anything after 7th October. World clearly sees the ugly religious ideology of Zionism exposed. You have cheapen antisemitism so much that it means nothing anymore to you. Whole world is antisemitic to you. Have a good day "Zionism isn't a religious ideology. It's a movement for the return to the homeland for the Jewsish people. Think it started in the 1800's when a mass migration occurred of Jews who subscribed to Zionist principles. Zionist is one particular group within one particular religion, it's not a religion of its own. Not all Jews are Zionists. You really should start telling the whole truth Arthur, it's getting boring now quack, quack Mrs x | |||
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