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"Who in your opinion, dead or alive, is or has been a great leader? " Hitler ? | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that!" I wouldn't describe him as clever or great - but certainly effective.. for a short time. | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that!" Fucked up in Russia though. | |||
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"Leonardo from TMNT  "So true...otherwise someone had to keep Raphaels temper in check | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that!" Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. | |||
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So true...otherwise someone had to keep Raphaels temper in check"Raph wanted to be the leader but he just wasn't right for the job. Too "hot-headed" | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that! Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. " you are right, but he must of had good leadership qualities to get so many people on his side | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that! Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. you are right, but he must of had good leadership qualities to get so many people on his side" Nah....a mixture of a great propaganda machine and a desperate population.... | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that!" Hitler was a very bad leader, often giving contradictory orders, misleading orders and orders than were left so loose that those in the field could often interpret them as they saw fit. What he was good at was rallying people and using the resources at hand politically and socially to secure his position. Had he been a great leader, the world as we know it today would be a very different place. | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that! Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. you are right, but he must of had good leadership qualities to get so many people on his side" Nope he scared the masses shitless and prayed on the fear of the time. He was a fuckwit but did however, make the trains run on time. For me a leader is one who has all the best human qualities in abundance and that person is Aung San Suu Kyi. A woman of the people for the people. | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II." and tony blair  | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II." What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation?" our stamps are quite pleasant | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation?" She has been an icon for people the world over for 60 years and has NEVER put a foot wrong in all that time. She's never made a faux pas and she has never spoke out of turn... but it's ok to be an anti-Royalist if that's how you feel. You have the right to say how you feel and even though I'd never agree with you in a million years I would defend your right to say it. | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? our stamps are quite pleasant " Just looking at my stamps..........its a picture of a Blue Tit? | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? She has been an icon for people the world over for 60 years and has NEVER put a foot wrong in all that time. She's never made a faux pas and she has never spoke out of turn... but it's ok to be an anti-Royalist if that's how you feel. You have the right to say how you feel and even though I'd never agree with you in a million years I would defend your right to say it." Thank you for that. However my gran had all those attributes and found the time to bring up 6 kids through a war. Is this just life? I admit to being a republican, but QE2 is like any other gran but with castles? | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that! Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. " Seeing as the Germans seem to be in control of Europe I would suggest maybe then won just took em sixty years to do it | |||
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"Pete Burns "You spin me right round ....... the other way ..... Ooooer I spin both ways. | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? our stamps are quite pleasant Just looking at my stamps..........its a picture of a Blue Tit?" maybe she was cold | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? She has been an icon for people the world over for 60 years and has NEVER put a foot wrong in all that time. She's never made a faux pas and she has never spoke out of turn... but it's ok to be an anti-Royalist if that's how you feel. You have the right to say how you feel and even though I'd never agree with you in a million years I would defend your right to say it." Completely misjudging the mood of her loyal subjects immediately after the death of Diana and not judging from her stance until her Prime Minister advised her otherwise = faux pas. A fucking big one. | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. What inspirational gifts has QE2 bestowed on the nation? She has been an icon for people the world over for 60 years and has NEVER put a foot wrong in all that time. She's never made a faux pas and she has never spoke out of turn... but it's ok to be an anti-Royalist if that's how you feel. You have the right to say how you feel and even though I'd never agree with you in a million years I would defend your right to say it. Completely misjudging the mood of her loyal subjects immediately after the death of Diana and not judging from her stance until her Prime Minister advised her otherwise = faux pas. A fucking big one." Royalty and Religion.......Mogodon for the masses | |||
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. and tony blair "And Blair!!! Get a grip the mans a lying narcissistic coward who sent this country into an illegal war because he hadn't got the balls to say no to Bush | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo (mr)" yeah immigrants are awful aren't they? the prime minister of Australia is Welsh by the way | |||
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"Hitler was a very clever leader. No one can deny that! Leading your country into a war that you eventually lose doesn't sound very clever to me. Seeing as the Germans seem to be in control of Europe I would suggest maybe then won just took em sixty years to do it " my german friends would be disgusted at any connection to being the same country during the world wars! When people understand, in those days there wasnt much choice to fight in wars u might not have agreed with, perhaps some understanding will come..I dont think many could say "I'm a pacifist!" and get away with it... people could barely do that here without heavy social stigma..think of what it must have been like IN germany! | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo (mr) yeah immigrants are awful aren't they? the prime minister of Australia is Welsh by the way " I was amazed tht Cameron took so long to jump on the immigration bandwagon. Interesting Hitler had forthright views on such matters and he is on the dinner guest list! | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo (mr) yeah immigrants are awful aren't they? the prime minister of Australia is Welsh by the way " Welsh descent, and no country can withstand constant illegal immigration. | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo (mr) "
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"From antiquity I'd have to say it's between Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar. Both conquered vast swathes of territories and in Alexander's case he did it before the age of 30. In modern times, Gandhi bought warring factions of the same people together for the first time in their history (Hindus & Sikhs). Martin Luthor King gave a voice to a nation of oppressed people living in a nation of oppressors who liked the world to believe 'it is the land of the free', that took some doing. Churchill for his mesmerising rallying speeches via radio in the darker days of WW2. He epitomised everything it is/was to be British. (I can't include Thatcher in this list as I despised her at the time, but history will show her to be someone who took a country riddled with petty politicking by Unions and politicians alike and shook them so hard they had no choice but to bend to her will.) In the Arts, you could choose from dozens of 'leaders': Dylan & Lennon from music spring to mind immediately, then there's Richard Burton & Laurence Olivier from the world of acting. You'd have to consider Bobby Charlton & Bobby Moore from football too. That still leaves one person not mentioned yet who I believe has been inspirational as a true Leader, and that person is our current monarch, Her Most Wonderful Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. and tony blair
And Blair!!! Get a grip the mans a lying narcissistic coward who sent this country into an illegal war because he hadn't got the balls to say no to Bush"lol the eyes are a give away no?? sarcasm lowest form of wit but im low  | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo (mr) yeah immigrants are awful aren't they? the prime minister of Australia is Welsh by the way Welsh descent, and no country can withstand constant illegal immigration." Constant and illegal......prove the former and the latter has happend for centuries. Sounds like a Daily Mail Editorial! | |||
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"Constant and illegal......prove the former and the latter has happend for centuries. Sounds like a Daily Mail Editorial!" I stand by my point, immigration is one thing, I didn't say anything about that, but illegal immigration is shock! illegal, and any state is within it's rights to protect itself from it. | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo " Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all Australians immigrants. | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all Australians immigrants. " No, being descended from an immigrant doesn't make you one, otherwise every human being is one. Also, Aborigines. | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all Australians immigrants. No, being descended from an immigrant doesn't make you one, otherwise every human being is one. Also, Aborigines." Julia Gillard was born in Barry. She's definitely one. | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all Australians immigrants. No, being descended from an immigrant doesn't make you one, otherwise every human being is one. Also, Aborigines." So if you are descended from an illegal immigrant are you now legal ? | |||
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"whoever is in charge of Australia, we would love to live in their country. the story about the boat that was full of immigrants that tried to dock in there country then got told if they get any closer it will be seen as a hostile action and blown out of the water, was a touch of genius imo Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all Australians immigrants. No, being descended from an immigrant doesn't make you one, otherwise every human being is one. Also, Aborigines. So if you are descended from an illegal immigrant are you now legal ? " Also Aborigines........is that an Austrailan band? I come from a land down under where women glow and men thunder! | |||
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" So if you are descended from an illegal immigrant are you now legal ? " If you have a valid citizenship, yes. If you stay outside the system, then it's unlikely. | |||
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