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"Whether they were honest or not I wouldn't want to be with them. I think a relationship like that would be very draining and not enjoyable for me." Yes, you are right there, a relationship with them would also be very draining too | |||
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"I was reading an interesting article about it and it said that the lie all the time because they dont have no identity of their own. They added that they play a role because they want to look their best. They feel the need to play as best as they can, if a narcissist were honest with you, would you want to be with him? What is your view about it and do you also agree with why they lie all the time too? " erm because its what they do and one of the traits | |||
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"Because deep down they're insecure and the truth isn't good enough." I think it's quite the opposite. A genuine narcissist sees oneself as invincible | |||
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"Because deep down they're insecure and the truth isn't good enough. I think it's quite the opposite. A genuine narcissist sees oneself as invincible " But they are massively mistaken. Put a narc executive through multi source feedback like 360 or simulation and the truth is revealed. Huge blind spots and low self awareness | |||
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"I was reading an interesting article about it and it said that the lie all the time because they dont have no identity of their own. They added that they play a role because they want to look their best. They feel the need to play as best as they can, if a narcissist were honest with you, would you want to be with him? What is your view about it and do you also agree with why they lie all the time too? " Everyone lies op | |||
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"I don't know if they do lie all the time. My ex had all the traits of narcissism, but wasn't a liar. Even when he had an affair he was open about it. " I think that's a telling comment. Also, deep down, and it applies to a whole range of the lesser desirable personality traits, don't we always "know", deep down, when we're being conned? Sometimes we quite like the con - it supports our own shaky self-narrative. But deep down, we smell the games of others and ourselves...a bit. | |||
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"Because deep down they're insecure and the truth isn't good enough." Yes, they are insecure too | |||
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"Because deep down they're insecure and the truth isn't good enough.Yes, they are insecure too " Absolutely this. But my narcissistic ex used to believe his own lies..... even when presented with facts and proof. And as long as he was and is surrounded by people who believe him he is happy .... as soon as they get wise ... he drops them and finds a new supply. Absolutely not a mental illness, it's a personality disorder and one which I dont think can be cured because why would a narcissist want to actually change. And labeling them Absolutely does ntonexcuse then from being thunderous c*nts | |||
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"Hmmmm.. I need to think about that some more.... I've not heard of a narcissist having no identity before " Oh stick around. You will read so much about narcissists on here that your head will spin .... and all of them something someone read on a blog by some self appointed someone with nothing more in their sack but unsubstantiated opinion. Did you know narcissists never use vanilla candles because the jelly was orange ? | |||
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"Hmmmm.. I need to think about that some more.... I've not heard of a narcissist having no identity before " identity theft maybe | |||
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"Whether they were honest or not I wouldn't want to be with them. I think a relationship like that would be very draining and not enjoyable for me.Yes, you are right there, a relationship with them would also be very draining too Been in two controlling narc relationships I was told I was fat and ugly by one that is a blatant lie. " Hi becs, yes, you are right there, they are very controlling too. | |||
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"It's a personality disorder and they like to be admired, be the centre of attention and love getting their ego boosted. They thrive on power and supply. Hence to appear better they build up a false image and in doing so tend to lie and believe their own lies. Given they tell so many lies it would be draining to try to decipher which ones were true so to be with one = No. " Yes, you are right there, it is a personality disorder and yes, they thrive on those things too, those are good points as well | |||
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"People who lie *all* the time actually believe what they say. There is some level on which they know it isn't true but that's very deeply hidden. " This is so true, and then when you pin them on the lie they dismiss the initial lie as inconsequential and move the goalposts. They are, in my experience, master manipulators. I remember researching compulsive lying before and it can be a symptom of many disorders including narcissism | |||
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"I was reading an interesting article about it and it said that the lie all the time because they dont have no identity of their own. They added that they play a role because they want to look their best. They feel the need to play as best as they can, if a narcissist were honest with you, would you want to be with him? What is your view about it and do you also agree with why they lie all the time too? " They don’t view things as lies. They are already successful/idolised etc in their minds, so anything they say or do they believe is justified. | |||
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