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"The overwhelming success of Drive to Survive has undoubtedly put F1 into a global position it’s never enjoyed previously. As all F1 fans know, success takes years in the making hence why one team/driver usually dominates for a period of time and so on. That said, is it just me that thinks Max, his attitude to the support, his questionable morals when driving against any kind of competition is taking F1 backwards? RB’s dominance is clearly engineered by Newey and it’s no coincidence he was a main protagonist the last time ground effect cars dominated the sport; the competition certainly can’t keep up! I rolled my eyes yesterday when RB/Max we’re so far ahead of the field, you may as well give him this years title and 2025’s now to save the money! Even Sky F1 has downgraded their coverage with some cock and bull story about utilising technology by repurposing the MNF studio. Thoughts? " What's mnf studio? | |||
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"The overwhelming success of Drive to Survive has undoubtedly put F1 into a global position it’s never enjoyed previously. As all F1 fans know, success takes years in the making hence why one team/driver usually dominates for a period of time and so on. That said, is it just me that thinks Max, his attitude to the support, his questionable morals when driving against any kind of competition is taking F1 backwards? RB’s dominance is clearly engineered by Newey and it’s no coincidence he was a main protagonist the last time ground effect cars dominated the sport; the competition certainly can’t keep up! I rolled my eyes yesterday when RB/Max we’re so far ahead of the field, you may as well give him this years title and 2025’s now to save the money! Even Sky F1 has downgraded their coverage with some cock and bull story about utilising technology by repurposing the MNF studio. Thoughts? What's mnf studio? " Monday night football, going off sky sports being mentioned that is. | |||
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"The title of this post gives a great idea for a new aspect. They race backwards "Like a mirror mode on Mario Mario kart.  | |||
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"Ffs. I got up at 0550 to watch 90 seconds of racing before a red flag. There must be a better driver out there for that VCARB seat. Danny Ric has had his chance. If Sky using a MNF style studio to present the F1 keeps my subscription costs down because they’re not flying presenters all over the world then I’m all for it. Also the MNF style means they’re using Natalie Pinkham more as a presenter, which can only be a good thing. " Agreed re Pinkham | |||
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"Don't see why they don't all have identical cars " You’re humbly missing the point, drivers and the drivers championship is only half of what F1 is; the engineering challenge and constructors is the real championship. | |||
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"I personally think that it's more about who has the most hi tech, fastest car nowadays, not so much skill of the driver. I used to watch F1, not I just find it boring now. " I get what you are saying but this has always been the case. Take the introduction of the Lotus 49 at the ‘67 Dutch Grand Prix. Technically groundbreaking vehicle that qualified on pole (Hill) and then won (Clarke) on its debut, with Clarke never having sat in the car until race weekend. It then proceeded to dominate the rest of the season. | |||
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"The studio is just for the eastern races no? So they don’t have to send all presenters to Japan/Australia and leads into Sky’s climate promises?" I hope so as I hate them not being at the race as it feels disconnected from the race. | |||
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"I personally think that it's more about who has the most hi tech, fastest car nowadays, not so much skill of the driver. I used to watch F1, not I just find it boring now. I get what you are saying but this has always been the case. Take the introduction of the Lotus 49 at the ‘67 Dutch Grand Prix. Technically groundbreaking vehicle that qualified on pole (Hill) and then won (Clarke) on its debut, with Clarke never having sat in the car until race weekend. It then proceeded to dominate the rest of the season. " I remember the days of James hunt etc, it was definitely more skill back then. | |||
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"I love F1 threads on the interweb. They are always full of people telling you how they stopped watching when Barney Rubble ruined it by putting his feet through the bottom of the car and shouting Yabba Dabba Doo as he crossed the line. Yawn. If you haven’t watched in 498 years then why are you so vexed by it? F1 has always been an engineering competition as much as anything else. Newey is rightly considered to be at the pinnacle. The others need to up their game - McLaren showed how you can make big improvements if you do it right. Perez is showing how driver skill (or _relative_ lack of it) is still key. " Couldn’t agree more  | |||
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"I personally think that it's more about who has the most hi tech, fastest car nowadays, not so much skill of the driver. I used to watch F1, not I just find it boring now. I get what you are saying but this has always been the case. Take the introduction of the Lotus 49 at the ‘67 Dutch Grand Prix. Technically groundbreaking vehicle that qualified on pole (Hill) and then won (Clarke) on its debut, with Clarke never having sat in the car until race weekend. It then proceeded to dominate the rest of the season. I remember the days of James hunt etc, it was definitely more skill back then. " I think the skill was what I would describe as raw talent type of thing, seat of your pants intuitive skill, back then. The modern F1 driver has a skill set that is totally different. Given the choice to rewatch a 60’s or 70’s race or watch a race from this season I would definitely choose the former. | |||
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"I love F1 threads on the interweb. They are always full of people telling you how they stopped watching when Barney Rubble ruined it by putting his feet through the bottom of the car and shouting Yabba Dabba Doo as he crossed the line. Yawn. If you haven’t watched in 498 years then why are you so vexed by it? F1 has always been an engineering competition as much as anything else. Newey is rightly considered to be at the pinnacle. The others need to up their game - McLaren showed how you can make big improvements if you do it right. Perez is showing how driver skill (or _relative_ lack of it) is still key. " F1 is simply boring because the cars are becoming more boring and the way they race is becoming more boring. Cannot deny the calibre of racing driving with the likes of Steve Nichols who designed the MP4/4 that won 15 of 16 grands prix at the hands of Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost in 1988 to anything we have to watch now. Senna who in my opinion I consider to be the greatest Formula One driver of all time due to his astonishing speed, sharp wit and selfless personality. The physical, mental and technical challenges the drivers had to deal with was also a lot more demanding. Senna even managed to win races where his car had reliability issues or when he himself was physically unwell. He was what I would call a pure racing driver in every sense. Barney Rubble is definitely more entertaining to watch than F1 now. | |||
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Like a mirror mode on Mario Mario kart. "Yes just need some red shells and randomly placed banana skins. | |||
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"The overwhelming success of Drive to Survive has undoubtedly put F1 into a global position it’s never enjoyed previously. As all F1 fans know, success takes years in the making hence why one team/driver usually dominates for a period of time and so on. That said, is it just me that thinks Max, his attitude to the support, his questionable morals when driving against any kind of competition is taking F1 backwards? RB’s dominance is clearly engineered by Newey and it’s no coincidence he was a main protagonist the last time ground effect cars dominated the sport; the competition certainly can’t keep up! I rolled my eyes yesterday when RB/Max we’re so far ahead of the field, you may as well give him this years title and 2025’s now to save the money! Even Sky F1 has downgraded their coverage with some cock and bull story about utilising technology by repurposing the MNF studio. Thoughts? " Adrian Neweys F1 career began in 1988, some 6 years after ground effects cars had bern banned, so he couldn't have been the main protagonist when ground effects last dominated the sport | |||
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"I’d rather watch a club level saloon car race at Pembrey on a rainy weekend in November than the pretentious gravy train they call Formula 1. " this | |||
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"Anyone going to an F1 race this year? I fancy going to one, what’s best to visit? " The first Grand Prix I went to was the Belgium G.P. in 1962 at Spa Francorchamps in the Ardenne Forest, this circuit remains my all time favourite and would reccomend to any enthuiast. | |||
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"I don't take half as much interest in it as I used to. If it's not Merc dominating then it's Red Bull. Too many money making races with appalling tracks where you can't overtake and massively overregulated rules stopping aggressive racing. " And too many spoilt little brats racing these days! | |||
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"I don't take half as much interest in it as I used to. If it's not Merc dominating then it's Red Bull. Too many money making races with appalling tracks where you can't overtake and massively overregulated rules stopping aggressive racing. And too many spoilt little brats racing these days! " Stroll! | |||
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"I stopped watching years ago. Its become just another hyped up, glamourised sport. It's more about preconceived tactics and battles of technology and in my opinion lost the thrill of the actual race. Shoot me down if you must "Nope I agree. It's just fast billboards with tv coverage. But... Obviously lots are interested in the billionaires playground as the reach goes from strength to strength. | |||
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"Anyone going to an F1 race this year? I fancy going to one, what’s best to visit? The first Grand Prix I went to was the Belgium G.P. in 1962 at Spa Francorchamps in the Ardenne Forest, this circuit remains my all time favourite and would reccomend to any enthuiast. " Many thanks. I’ve heard Spa is very good. I Enjoy watching it on the Tele. How was it for fans? | |||
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"I personally think that it's more about who has the most hi tech, fastest car nowadays, not so much skill of the driver. I used to watch F1, not I just find it boring now. I get what you are saying but this has always been the case. Take the introduction of the Lotus 49 at the ‘67 Dutch Grand Prix. Technically groundbreaking vehicle that qualified on pole (Hill) and then won (Clarke) on its debut, with Clarke never having sat in the car until race weekend. It then proceeded to dominate the rest of the season. I remember the days of James hunt etc, it was definitely more skill back then. I think the skill was what I would describe as raw talent type of thing, seat of your pants intuitive skill, back then. The modern F1 driver has a skill set that is totally different. Given the choice to rewatch a 60’s or 70’s race or watch a race from this season I would definitely choose the former. "I think the commentary has declined, Murry Walker may have sometimes got thigs wrong but his enthusiasm was infectious | |||
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"I personally think that it's more about who has the most hi tech, fastest car nowadays, not so much skill of the driver. I used to watch F1, not I just find it boring now. I get what you are saying but this has always been the case. Take the introduction of the Lotus 49 at the ‘67 Dutch Grand Prix. Technically groundbreaking vehicle that qualified on pole (Hill) and then won (Clarke) on its debut, with Clarke never having sat in the car until race weekend. It then proceeded to dominate the rest of the season. I remember the days of James hunt etc, it was definitely more skill back then. I think the skill was what I would describe as raw talent type of thing, seat of your pants intuitive skill, back then. The modern F1 driver has a skill set that is totally different. Given the choice to rewatch a 60’s or 70’s race or watch a race from this season I would definitely choose the former.
I think the commentary has declined, Murry Walker may have sometimes got thigs wrong but his enthusiasm was infectious
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"The overwhelming success of Drive to Survive has undoubtedly put F1 into a global position it’s never enjoyed previously. As all F1 fans know, success takes years in the making hence why one team/driver usually dominates for a period of time and so on. That said, is it just me that thinks Max, his attitude to the support, his questionable morals when driving against any kind of competition is taking F1 backwards? RB’s dominance is clearly engineered by Newey and it’s no coincidence he was a main protagonist the last time ground effect cars dominated the sport; the competition certainly can’t keep up! I rolled my eyes yesterday when RB/Max we’re so far ahead of the field, you may as well give him this years title and 2025’s now to save the money! Even Sky F1 has downgraded their coverage with some cock and bull story about utilising technology by repurposing the MNF studio. Thoughts? " Did you miss the decade where Mercedes pretty much cleared the table? It’s quite amusing to watch Hamilton struggle now they’ve introduced the budget cap and clipped Mercedes wings. Best driver in history? He’s not even the best driver in Mercedes…he’s pretty much Ringo Starr with more whinging | |||
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"Might actually make it interesting to watch if the raced in reverse! "Or... A delivery drivers race... Although has the feel of top gear about it. | |||
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" I'm a Ferrari fan, and would love to see these doing better. I just hope Hamilton doesn't when he dons the red suit. IMO the sport went backwards when it went hybrid, I miss the proper sound of an F1 car " I don't understand the HATE for Hamilton, nearly all of the criticism pointed at him seems inaccurate (whiney, spoiled, petulant, etc...), the the exact same people WORSHIP Verstappen who displays all of those qualities in spades. By all accounts, Hamilton is the first to pass the credit for his success onto the team, and he's the first to congratulate others. Whilst I agree about the move to Hybrid changing aspects of the sport, it's also crucial to the sports existence. For F1 to be valuable to the car manufacturers, it needs to be the proving-ground for new technologies that filter down to road cars. Cal | |||
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"Lewis actually makes me feel the ick. Something so off with him. I haven’t been watching for long, but it sounds like he’s always had a pretty easy ride with the cats he had " Not as easy as Max is having | |||
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"Anyone going to an F1 race this year? I fancy going to one, what’s best to visit? Fancy a meet up for drink/social? " Bump | |||
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" ... For F1 to be valuable to the car manufacturers, it needs to be the proving-ground for new technologies that filter down to road cars. ..." Do Formula one cars have all the stupid bright ideas now incorporated into road cars? Like having to keep the key in a Faraday pouch to stop it from being cloned (just to start a list). | |||
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As for AN, he’s always said the team in red would be his only choice, let’s see if that’s the case when Aston Martin offer him a blank cheque (because they will) with Stroll and his millions’ | |||
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"All the fancy ideas on your road car started off in F1, or other motorsports. Except remote keys. F1 cars don't have keys." Great. Can they keep their fancy ideas where they belong. No wonder there is less and less space in road cars for shagging in. My vehicle was actually designed for shagging in (Japanese young people live at home with mum and dad), not for motor racing. Racing cars don't need electric blinds and seats which fold completely flat! | |||
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"The overwhelming success of Drive to Survive has undoubtedly put F1 into a global position it’s never enjoyed previously. As all F1 fans know, success takes years in the making hence why one team/driver usually dominates for a period of time and so on. That said, is it just me that thinks Max, his attitude to the support, his questionable morals when driving against any kind of competition is taking F1 backwards? RB’s dominance is clearly engineered by Newey and it’s no coincidence he was a main protagonist the last time ground effect cars dominated the sport; the competition certainly can’t keep up! I rolled my eyes yesterday when RB/Max we’re so far ahead of the field, you may as well give him this years title and 2025’s now to save the money! Even Sky F1 has downgraded their coverage with some cock and bull story about utilising technology by repurposing the MNF studio. Thoughts? " Just a quick one , what team or driver do you support ? | |||
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" I'm a Ferrari fan, and would love to see these doing better. I just hope Hamilton doesn't when he dons the red suit. IMO the sport went backwards when it went hybrid, I miss the proper sound of an F1 car I don't understand the HATE for Hamilton, nearly all of the criticism pointed at him seems inaccurate (whiney, spoiled, petulant, etc...), the the exact same people WORSHIP Verstappen who displays all of those qualities in spades. By all accounts, Hamilton is the first to pass the credit for his success onto the team, and he's the first to congratulate others. Whilst I agree about the move to Hybrid changing aspects of the sport, it's also crucial to the sports existence. For F1 to be valuable to the car manufacturers, it needs to be the proving-ground for new technologies that filter down to road cars. Cal" Most LH haters hate him for one reason and one reason alone | |||
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" I'm a Ferrari fan, and would love to see these doing better. I just hope Hamilton doesn't when he dons the red suit. IMO the sport went backwards when it went hybrid, I miss the proper sound of an F1 car I don't understand the HATE for Hamilton, nearly all of the criticism pointed at him seems inaccurate (whiney, spoiled, petulant, etc...), the the exact same people WORSHIP Verstappen who displays all of those qualities in spades. By all accounts, Hamilton is the first to pass the credit for his success onto the team, and he's the first to congratulate others. Whilst I agree about the move to Hybrid changing aspects of the sport, it's also crucial to the sports existence. For F1 to be valuable to the car manufacturers, it needs to be the proving-ground for new technologies that filter down to road cars. Cal Most LH haters hate him for one reason and one reason alone" Which is? | |||
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"Rather than slating max and red bull for being let’s be honest by far and away the best team and driver, maybe it would be better to egg the other teams on a bit. It’s not red bulls fault the other teams can’t keep up ! Other teams have been aim the sport much much longer so don’t really have an excuse. It’s up to them to catch up " Quite agree. They’re all good drivers, well most are anyway, but Hamilton, Sainz, etc all make an occasional costly mistake. Verstappen doesn’t. Hence why he has that very slight edge. | |||
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"It's now so dull and that's from someone who was a regular at Silverstone for the F1 racing! It appears that every time someone tries to overtake another there's a stewards enquiry! It's called racing for a reason. I'm sticking to the bike racing (BSB) where it's much more competitive with multiple winners / different manufacturers. " This, we book a trip at Pleasures for Saturday night and then BSB at Brands Hatch on the way home on Sunday . Much more excitement | |||
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" I'm a Ferrari fan, and would love to see these doing better. I just hope Hamilton doesn't when he dons the red suit. IMO the sport went backwards when it went hybrid, I miss the proper sound of an F1 car I don't understand the HATE for Hamilton, nearly all of the criticism pointed at him seems inaccurate (whiney, spoiled, petulant, etc...), the the exact same people WORSHIP Verstappen who displays all of those qualities in spades. By all accounts, Hamilton is the first to pass the credit for his success onto the team, and he's the first to congratulate others. Whilst I agree about the move to Hybrid changing aspects of the sport, it's also crucial to the sports existence. For F1 to be valuable to the car manufacturers, it needs to be the proving-ground for new technologies that filter down to road cars. Cal Most LH haters hate him for one reason and one reason alone" And what reason is that. | |||
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