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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This maybe a regional thing but does anybody remember the story about the Chelsea smilers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No please enlighten me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean people in chelsea actually smile??

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience, people who live in Chelsea are as miserable as sin (and the women think their s**t don't stink!), so, no I have not heard of the 'Chelsea Smilers'.

Do enlighten us.....

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"This maybe a regional thing but does anybody remember the story about the Chelsea smilers?

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I'm not sure but i hope its not what i think it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chelsea smile?

isn't that where they cut the sides of your mouth?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The Smilers, so the story goes, were a gang of football hooligans. Depending which version of the story you hear, they would either roam the streets of South London, travel around in a blue Transit Van or – if you looked particularly easy to scare – would go door-to-door.

Details varied, but the basic essence of the story was this. The Smilers would confront you and ask you if you supported Chelsea Football Club. Possibly they would ask you a series of trivia questions to prove it.

In the version I was told, they would then slice the corners of your mouth – upwards if you said yes, downwards if you said no. Then they would punch you hard, so you’d scream, thus ripping your mouth into a permanent smile.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"The Smilers, so the story goes, were a gang of football hooligans. Depending which version of the story you hear, they would either roam the streets of South London, travel around in a blue Transit Van or – if you looked particularly easy to scare – would go door-to-door.

Details varied, but the basic essence of the story was this. The Smilers would confront you and ask you if you supported Chelsea Football Club. Possibly they would ask you a series of trivia questions to prove it.

In the version I was told, they would then slice the corners of your mouth – upwards if you said yes, downwards if you said no. Then they would punch you hard, so you’d scream, thus ripping your mouth into a permanent smile."
*yep, its what i though* How awful

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

jesus thats grim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Smilers, so the story goes, were a gang of football hooligans. Depending which version of the story you hear, they would either roam the streets of South London, travel around in a blue Transit Van or – if you looked particularly easy to scare – would go door-to-door.

Details varied, but the basic essence of the story was this. The Smilers would confront you and ask you if you supported Chelsea Football Club. Possibly they would ask you a series of trivia questions to prove it.

In the version I was told, they would then slice the corners of your mouth – upwards if you said yes, downwards if you said no. Then they would punch you hard, so you’d scream, thus ripping your mouth into a permanent smile."

im pretty sure that form of tortures been going long before Chelsea Football Club was around lol

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

its known as a chelsea grin but this was done by gangsters aswell before football such as the krays etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The Chelsea smile or Cheshire grim or whatever you want to call it is not a myth that went on all over the country.

The Chelsea smilers are a myth though unless they are still trying to find my school now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters. "

I grew up with one of the notorious Chelsea headhunters. You'd be surprised what they'd stoop to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bad name for a girl called Chelsea Smiles eh?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

In parts of Glasgow, it's done with a Stanley knife with two blades, held apart by a matchstick making the cut almost impossible to suture well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters.

I grew up with one of the notorious Chelsea headhunters. You'd be surprised what they'd stoop to."

I know all about them , but what would be the purpose of cutting your own fans ?

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

can be done with a credit card aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters.

I grew up with one of the notorious Chelsea headhunters. You'd be surprised what they'd stoop to.

I know all about them , but what would be the purpose of cutting your own fans ? "

I remember going to a league cup game in the 80's at the bridge against Millwall. 4 or 5 of the Millwall hooligans I saw running up Fulham Road hitting anything that moved were the same people I used to see at Chelsea most weeks. Less about affiliation to a club and more about having a ruck for the sake of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters.

I grew up with one of the notorious Chelsea headhunters. You'd be surprised what they'd stoop to.

I know all about them , but what would be the purpose of cutting your own fans ?

I remember going to a league cup game in the 80's at the bridge against Millwall. 4 or 5 of the Millwall hooligans I saw running up Fulham Road hitting anything that moved were the same people I used to see at Chelsea most weeks. Less about affiliation to a club and more about having a ruck for the sake of it."

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people. "

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up"

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

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By *bwlover19Man
over a year ago

Liverpool


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!"

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite. "

Pmsl bit jaded there kid!! It's not "for no reason" it's for their club lol. Think you need to sit down and have a wee cuppa tea. What they do is up to them. And I'm pretty sure modern football violence is premeditated and social media plays a huge part in it all... So as for seeking violence for no reason? It's up to two groups of people as to what they do to get their kicks... Is frank Bruno a gobshite? Is vitali klitchko a gobshite ( I'm sure he holds a doctorate) would that make Muhammad Ali a gobshite thick twat? That's all needless violence surely? Who are you to call names? I'm sure Stanley park is full of gobshites of a Saturday afternoon... I'd dare you to call them gobshites to their faces. Your opinion holds about as much water as a sieve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite.

Pmsl bit jaded there kid!! It's not "for no reason" it's for their club lol. Think you need to sit down and have a wee cuppa tea. What they do is up to them. And I'm pretty sure modern football violence is premeditated and social media plays a huge part in it all... So as for seeking violence for no reason? It's up to two groups of people as to what they do to get their kicks... Is frank Bruno a gobshite? Is vitali klitchko a gobshite ( I'm sure he holds a doctorate) would that make Muhammad Ali a gobshite thick twat? That's all needless violence surely? Who are you to call names? I'm sure Stanley park is full of gobshites of a Saturday afternoon... I'd dare you to call them gobshites to their faces. Your opinion holds about as much water as a sieve."

And for complete transparency , I'm a season ticket holder

I hate violence

It has no place on the terraces.

But I'm not as small minded as to generalise a whole group of people. Some are thick as two short planks....

Some are intelligent.

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over a year ago


"its known as a chelsea grin but this was done by gangsters aswell before football such as the krays etc"

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By *bwlover19Man
over a year ago

Liverpool


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite.

Pmsl bit jaded there kid!! It's not "for no reason" it's for their club lol. Think you need to sit down and have a wee cuppa tea. What they do is up to them. And I'm pretty sure modern football violence is premeditated and social media plays a huge part in it all... So as for seeking violence for no reason? It's up to two groups of people as to what they do to get their kicks... Is frank Bruno a gobshite? Is vitali klitchko a gobshite ( I'm sure he holds a doctorate) would that make Muhammad Ali a gobshite thick twat? That's all needless violence surely? Who are you to call names? I'm sure Stanley park is full of gobshites of a Saturday afternoon... I'd dare you to call them gobshites to their faces. Your opinion holds about as much water as a sieve."

You can't compare heavyweight professional boxers to football hooligans. Come on. I'm a Goodson park season ticket holder and have seen more than my fair share of violence home and away.

And as for I dare to call them gobshites, I can and have when splitting up fights. It's not up to people what they do to get there kicks when people can and have been caught up and received a good kicking. Like when "fans" storm police escorts to attack anyone in an opposing shirt.

Football hooliganism are gobshites. I stick by original statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite.

Pmsl bit jaded there kid!! It's not "for no reason" it's for their club lol. Think you need to sit down and have a wee cuppa tea. What they do is up to them. And I'm pretty sure modern football violence is premeditated and social media plays a huge part in it all... So as for seeking violence for no reason? It's up to two groups of people as to what they do to get their kicks... Is frank Bruno a gobshite? Is vitali klitchko a gobshite ( I'm sure he holds a doctorate) would that make Muhammad Ali a gobshite thick twat? That's all needless violence surely? Who are you to call names? I'm sure Stanley park is full of gobshites of a Saturday afternoon... I'd dare you to call them gobshites to their faces. Your opinion holds about as much water as a sieve.

You can't compare heavyweight professional boxers to football hooligans. Come on. I'm a Goodson park season ticket holder and have seen more than my fair share of violence home and away.

And as for I dare to call them gobshites, I can and have when splitting up fights. It's not up to people what they do to get there kicks when people can and have been caught up and received a good kicking. Like when "fans" storm police escorts to attack anyone in an opposing shirt.

Football hooliganism are gobshites. I stick by original statement"

And I quote

" anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent"

So heavyweight boxers.... What's their reason for violence?

I stick to my origional statement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fair doos. Most hooligans aren't the cleverest of people.

not necessarily true. I know a guy who was a Chelsea Headhunter and he is very intelligent. There was a documentary years ago about the West Ham ICF and there were some highly educated professional men in that. Common denominator was they liked a punch up

Watch rise of the foot soldier... That's propper naughty 'uns and by their dealings, were very astute. Love how people label hoolies as being thick. It takes all sorts kid!!!!

Footy hooligans are thick . They are gobshites. Anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent. They are a gobshite.

Pmsl bit jaded there kid!! It's not "for no reason" it's for their club lol. Think you need to sit down and have a wee cuppa tea. What they do is up to them. And I'm pretty sure modern football violence is premeditated and social media plays a huge part in it all... So as for seeking violence for no reason? It's up to two groups of people as to what they do to get their kicks... Is frank Bruno a gobshite? Is vitali klitchko a gobshite ( I'm sure he holds a doctorate) would that make Muhammad Ali a gobshite thick twat? That's all needless violence surely? Who are you to call names? I'm sure Stanley park is full of gobshites of a Saturday afternoon... I'd dare you to call them gobshites to their faces. Your opinion holds about as much water as a sieve.

You can't compare heavyweight professional boxers to football hooligans. Come on. I'm a Goodson park season ticket holder and have seen more than my fair share of violence home and away.

And as for I dare to call them gobshites, I can and have when splitting up fights. It's not up to people what they do to get there kicks when people can and have been caught up and received a good kicking. Like when "fans" storm police escorts to attack anyone in an opposing shirt.

Football hooliganism are gobshites. I stick by original statement

And I quote

" anyone who seeks violence for no reason isn't intelligent"

So heavyweight boxers.... What's their reason for violence?

I stick to my origional statement."

The facts remain. Most football hooligans pre meditate fights. They generally take place miles from the ground to avert the law.

The people you see fighting outside the taxi drivers club or across the park on priory road, they are common thugs that pretend to be hoolies, that in stark reality have little or nothing in common with modern "firms"

I totally agree with 90% of your view. Just not the bit about them all being thick

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Boxing is a sport and a profession its not like a city centre ruck on a Saturday night. Perfectly valid reason fot violence?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boxing is a sport and a profession its not like a city centre ruck on a Saturday night. Perfectly valid reason fot violence?"

Er amature boxing?

Some people treat a ruck like a sport!

All I'm saying is its wrong to call them all thick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads. "

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

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Gary Numan couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

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Wolves..now they are a scary lot....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

Wolves..now they are a scary lot...."

Like the "fine young casuals"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

Wolves..now they are a scary lot....

Like the "fine young casuals"? "

I hated their version of suspicious minds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most footy hooligans are not as thick as you think. Most have very well paid jobs and high standards of living. The thuggish behaviour was always well organised well in advanced with all most military precision.

Chelsea headhunters, combat 88, intercity firm or who ever their club loyalty lay were far from being a bunch of beer'd up thick heads.

Exactly .... And the subway army... Lol

Wolves..now they are a scary lot....

Like the "fine young casuals"?

I hated their version of suspicious minds. "

Pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Smilers, so the story goes, were a gang of football hooligans. Depending which version of the story you hear, they would either roam the streets of South London, travel around in a blue Transit Van or – if you looked particularly easy to scare – would go door-to-door.

Details varied, but the basic essence of the story was this. The Smilers would confront you and ask you if you supported Chelsea Football Club. Possibly they would ask you a series of trivia questions to prove it.

In the version I was told, they would then slice the corners of your mouth – upwards if you said yes, downwards if you said no. Then they would punch you hard, so you’d scream, thus ripping your mouth into a permanent smile."

The same effect can be achieved by putting a credit/bank card between the corners of the mouth and then punching the person in the guts.

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By *rT30Man
over a year ago

Munster


"Also known as a Cheshire grin. It is used as a form of cutting , marking your enemies but as far as I'm aware the football hooligan link is a myth. Not to say hooligans didn't cut you in such a manner but I doubt they went door to door and they wouldn't have cut their own supporters.

I grew up with one of the notorious Chelsea headhunters. You'd be surprised what they'd stoop to."

Are they as bad as I have been told even over here?

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