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"Should the women be more discrete ?" Why? | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why?" You are in a foreign country with different values | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ?" No they shouldn't. People should be more discreet, mind their own damn business and stop eyeballing mothers caring for their infants. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values " It's Guernsey Tom. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. " Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France" A self governing dependency of the British crown. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France" You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people " I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. " Not you again | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. " By the time my 2nd and 3rd came along I thought "fuck em" as I wasn't going to drag my other kids in a toilet too. They stared, I threw a filthy look back. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. By the time my 2nd and 3rd came along I thought "fuck em" as I wasn't going to drag my other kids in a toilet too. They stared, I threw a filthy look back." A filthy look back? Why were they staring ? | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. By the time my 2nd and 3rd came along I thought "fuck em" as I wasn't going to drag my other kids in a toilet too. They stared, I threw a filthy look back." I think being a disabled parent the second time added an extra je ne sais quoi ![]() | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ?" Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. By the time my 2nd and 3rd came along I thought "fuck em" as I wasn't going to drag my other kids in a toilet too. They stared, I threw a filthy look back. I think being a disabled parent the second time added an extra je ne sais quoi ![]() Well there is a fetish for everyone | |||
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"Tom is speechless " Well there's a first ... | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured" When I breastfed my children, it was the women who seemed most put out. Some would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath. Not that you could see anything anyway, it’s not like I was topless doing the feeding. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured When I breastfed my children, it was the women who seemed most put out. Some would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath. Not that you could see anything anyway, it’s not like I was topless doing the feeding." Incredible how something so natural has become uncomfortable and even taboo in modern times ![]() | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured When I breastfed my children, it was the women who seemed most put out. Some would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath. Not that you could see anything anyway, it’s not like I was topless doing the feeding." Omg that's just horrible.... Quote "Some (women) would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath"....That's just pure ignorant & uneducated behaviour. | |||
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"Outrageous I know. Women LOVE being oogled when breastfeeding. Denying them and men of that? Sad times. " Oh yes, sad times. People prefer to oogling their phones. ![]() | |||
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"Wasn't Bergerac in Jersey? ![]() ![]() I think it’s more important that this is addressed…..It’s like journalists that push their own bullshit opinions aren’t getting their facts right in the first place. | |||
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"We have to respect the local culture. " No we don't. I have absolutely no respect for a culture like that. | |||
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"Wasn't Bergerac in Jersey? ![]() Yes. Not unusual for Tom’s posts to be inaccurate | |||
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"We have to respect the local culture. No we don't. I have absolutely no respect for a culture like that." Don’t go there then | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ?" Stop stirring | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people " He’s just stirring … as usual | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured When I breastfed my children, it was the women who seemed most put out. Some would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath. Not that you could see anything anyway, it’s not like I was topless doing the feeding. Incredible how something so natural has become uncomfortable and even taboo in modern times ![]() Yep so many retards out there want to sexualise everything it seems | |||
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"A mother who wanted to breastfeed her child in an establishment on an island called Guernsey, which was home to the TV detective called Bergerac, was asked to leave.. Now Tom likes to see tits in public.. play by their rules and not ours .. " And now for the facts. It happened in a holiday inn in guernsey. She was not asked to leave, she was asked to sit in a corner. The hotel have now apologised. Trying to blame guernsey / the culture in guernsey, is far from fair or accurate. The whole thing is a storm in a D cup. | |||
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"A mother who wanted to breastfeed her child in an establishment on an island called Guernsey, which was home to the TV detective called Bergerac, was asked to leave.. Now Tom likes to see tits in public.. play by their rules and not ours .. And now for the facts. It happened in a holiday inn in guernsey. She was not asked to leave, she was asked to sit in a corner. The hotel have now apologised. Trying to blame guernsey / the culture in guernsey, is far from fair or accurate. The whole thing is a storm in a D cup. " In fairness…… it wasn’t in a D cup. It was out of it. Sorry I’ll close the door on the way out. Joking aside, it’s just a normal thing to me. Babies have to be fed and mums shouldn’t have to sit in a quiet corner to do it. | |||
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"We are an interesting species - shuddering at human milk being fed to an infant yet many of us drink the milk of another mammal ![]() My thoughts entirely, 18 - 24 months beig breast freedom by our mothers, then a lifetime being wet-nursed by cows... "Bitty!" | |||
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"I do think sometimes breast feeding women may need to be a little more discreet. I have seen women with all of their full breast fully exposed for the entire feed which may last an hr or more. Is that really necessary to expose the full breast when there's so much 'clothing' now to assist breastfeeding. I have witnessed men looking lingerly at women breastfeeding in public when their breast is fully exposed & I did actually think are they perving a mother feeding her baby. On one occasion my partner even said to me is that really necessary when he saw a woman with her whole breast fully exposed for the entire feed. She left it exposed even when winding her baby, the feed lasted well over an hr. Op has even said he "likes to see tits in public.." when he wrote his intro comment on his breastfeeding thread. I wouldn't like to be watched breastfeeding in public & I personally would not expose my entire breast for the whole feed. But that's just me. " The breast feeding is done for the benefit of the baby, with the style of it predominantly determined by the mother, for her convenience and comfort. We should not impose our values on mothers, who are just trying to ensure that they get to live with the same opportunities that we all have. It's a mother's choice and we all should support them. I never found Guernsey repressive when I was there, so I'm surprised that, presumably some men, it's restricted women's liberty. | |||
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"Tom is speechless " Put this day down in your diaries everyone. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats " From whom, the people who might have complained? | |||
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"I do think sometimes breast feeding women may need to be a little more discreet. I have seen women with all of their full breast fully exposed for the entire feed which may last an hr or more. Is that really necessary to expose the full breast when there's so much 'clothing' now to assist breastfeeding. I have witnessed men looking lingerly at women breastfeeding in public when their breast is fully exposed & I did actually think are they perving a mother feeding her baby. On one occasion my partner even said to me is that really necessary when he saw a woman with her whole breast fully exposed for the entire feed. She left it exposed even when winding her baby, the feed lasted well over an hr. Op has even said he "likes to see tits in public.." when he wrote his intro comment on his breastfeeding thread. I wouldn't like to be watched breastfeeding in public & I personally would not expose my entire breast for the whole feed. But that's just me. The breast feeding is done for the benefit of the baby, with the style of it predominantly determined by the mother, for her convenience and comfort. We should not impose our values on mothers, who are just trying to ensure that they get to live with the same opportunities that we all have. It's a mother's choice and we all should support them. I never found Guernsey repressive when I was there, so I'm surprised that, presumably some men, it's restricted women's liberty." “Guernsey” has not “restricted women’s liberty”. Some twit of a manager in a Holiday Inn made a bad call, and the hotel have now apologised. Why suggest that the whole island is guilty of restricting women’s liberty? Have some common sense and look at what has actually happened | |||
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"We are an interesting species - shuddering at human milk being fed to an infant yet many of us drink the milk of another mammal ![]() Not really comparable though, is it. Nobody is “shuddering” at milk being fed to an infant, some people just get excited looking at the dispenser. If the milk was being served in a glass (like we drink cow’s milk) nobody would even notice Your comparison doesn’t work | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats " You are really struggling for ways to stir on this one Tom. | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Why? You are in a foreign country with different values It's Guernsey Tom. Yes Guernsey.. it's practically near France You aren't helping yourself fella. Maybe we should return to 1993 when I had to breastfeed my baby in toilets when I went out so I didn't offend people I had the same experience in 2002. It had got better by my second one in 2017/18. But still not devoid of weird staring. " Yup, we had the same stares - annoyed me more than Mrs C. but even so. People need to get over it. | |||
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"Probably an older guy but some women aren't discreet about it either, having said that its the choice of the proprietor i guess and rules is rules ![]() I don’t know what age the staff member was, or gender. Why speculate on the age and gender of the person involved? They made a bad call and management have stepped in and apologised. | |||
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"Wasn't Bergerac in Jersey? ![]() ![]() Say it ain't so!: ![]() | |||
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"We spoke about this at work once and our accounts lady said she wish women wouldn't do it in public. It's just not natural. Fantastic comment" Not natural, fantastic ![]() | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats " Twisted thinking at its finest. Its about nobody other than the mum and her baby. ![]() | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats " If you scratch any more at the bottom of that barrel, you'll go through it. | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats Twisted thinking at its finest. Its about nobody other than the mum and her baby. ![]() Tom is just desperately trying to stir up controversy | |||
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"Probably an older guy but some women aren't discreet about it either, having said that its the choice of the proprietor i guess and rules is rules ![]() Shouldn't need to have discretion. It's a natural need and essential to life. | |||
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"Is there a 'look at me' element tho. Some mothers would love to breast feed but cannot. The last thing some of them will need is a smug breastfeeder ramming it down their throats Twisted thinking at its finest. Its about nobody other than the mum and her baby. ![]() Maybe Tom yearns to be breast fed himself but cannot admit it? | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult." This case wasn’t about public reaction to breastfeeding, it was about one hotel employee’s handling of the situation | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. This case wasn’t about public reaction to breastfeeding, it was about one hotel employee’s handling of the situation " Same goes for the employee. Maybe the business should be boycotted by everyone with a child until they get their act together... as it sounds like a lack of training issue. | |||
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"We are an interesting species - shuddering at human milk being fed to an infant yet many of us drink the milk of another mammal ![]() What if the baby wants to be vegan? | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. This case wasn’t about public reaction to breastfeeding, it was about one hotel employee’s handling of the situation Same goes for the employee. Maybe the business should be boycotted by everyone with a child until they get their act together... as it sounds like a lack of training issue." They have apologised. I don't think it calls fie boycotting over an error of judgement | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. This case wasn’t about public reaction to breastfeeding, it was about one hotel employee’s handling of the situation Same goes for the employee. Maybe the business should be boycotted by everyone with a child until they get their act together... as it sounds like a lack of training issue." There was a protest, management apologised and gave the protestors breakfast. If they’re happy the matter is resolved but you want to boycott Holiday Inn, feel free. The people directly involved have moved on though. | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. This case wasn’t about public reaction to breastfeeding, it was about one hotel employee’s handling of the situation Same goes for the employee. Maybe the business should be boycotted by everyone with a child until they get their act together... as it sounds like a lack of training issue. There was a protest, management apologised and gave the protestors breakfast. If they’re happy the matter is resolved but you want to boycott Holiday Inn, feel free. The people directly involved have moved on though. " 'Until they get their act together' Miss that part? | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult." The biological need for a cock is to shove it up a pussy. Is that done in public ? | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. The biological need for a cock is to shove it up a pussy. Is that done in public ?" Not the same thing and you know it... | |||
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"... It's Guernsey Tom. " .. and Guernsey Toms are as famous Jersey Royals. | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. The biological need for a cock is to shove it up a pussy. Is that done in public ?" I think there are several gay men who would argue with that | |||
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"Legally i dont think they can ask her to leave because she was breastfeeding. My wife breastfed in public, as is her right, and only once did someone make a comment. Her reply was "my baby needs food and you cannot stop a mother from feeding her child"." Restaurants, etc are private enterprises and legally they are allowed to use use their own discretion on who they allow and don’t allow. This is done so that all eventualities are covered. Businesses don’t turn away money without a valid reason. My opinion is there is nothing wrong in breastfeeding the baby. But maybe other clients don’t approve. Local custom and social norms come into play. Use common sense or judgment. | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. The biological need for a cock is to shove it up a pussy. Is that done in public ?" No "the biological need for a cock" is to procreate. & Yes "the biological need of breasts is to feed a baby". I honestly don't know why breasts (mammary) glands are so sexualised. In certain parts of the world.... Breasts are not sexualised at all. | |||
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"Probably an older guy but some women aren't discreet about it either, having said that its the choice of the proprietor i guess and rules is rules ![]() Its not essential to be seen just to feed the baby, i think some mums just love the maternal feeling and at that point just don't care who sees, my dads mates new wife 20 years younger than his mate came round to the house and started breastfeeding in the living room it made my dad uncomfortable and he left the room, i think she asked if it was ok first i think i was 13 ![]() | |||
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"The biological purpose of breasts is to feed a baby. If baby is hungry, baby gets fed.. if you dont like it or feel the need to stare then maybe you shouldnt be out in public without a responsible adult. The biological need for a cock is to shove it up a pussy. Is that done in public ? No "the biological need for a cock" is to procreate. & Yes "the biological need of breasts is to feed a baby". I honestly don't know why breasts (mammary) glands are so sexualised. In certain parts of the world.... Breasts are not sexualised at all. " The best way to normalise them is for ladies to walk around topless all the time - everyone will get bored really quickly and it will just become a non issue. #helpfulHintOfTheDay | |||
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"Legally i dont think they can ask her to leave because she was breastfeeding. My wife breastfed in public, as is her right, and only once did someone make a comment. Her reply was "my baby needs food and you cannot stop a mother from feeding her child". Restaurants, etc are private enterprises and legally they are allowed to use use their own discretion on who they allow and don’t allow. This is done so that all eventualities are covered. Businesses don’t turn away money without a valid reason. My opinion is there is nothing wrong in breastfeeding the baby. But maybe other clients don’t approve. Local custom and social norms come into play. Use common sense or judgment. " Restaurants cannot discriminate and breastfeeding in public is protected in law by the Equality Act. https://www.nhs.uk/start-for-life/baby/feeding-your-baby/breastfeeding/breastfeeding-in-public/ | |||
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"Legally i dont think they can ask her to leave because she was breastfeeding. My wife breastfed in public, as is her right, and only once did someone make a comment. Her reply was "my baby needs food and you cannot stop a mother from feeding her child". Restaurants, etc are private enterprises and legally they are allowed to use use their own discretion on who they allow and don’t allow. This is done so that all eventualities are covered. Businesses don’t turn away money without a valid reason. My opinion is there is nothing wrong in breastfeeding the baby. But maybe other clients don’t approve. Local custom and social norms come into play. Use common sense or judgment. Restaurants cannot discriminate and breastfeeding in public is protected in law by the Equality Act. https://www.nhs.uk/start-for-life/baby/feeding-your-baby/breastfeeding/breastfeeding-in-public/" Yes! I’d forgotten about this. Protected characteristic. | |||
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"And the feelings of those who can't breastfeed Is that not important " Your desperation for debate, Tom is verging on pathetic at this point. Those who can't breastfeed for whatever reason are irrelevant to a mum and a baby who just wants food and comfort. Theres not a woman alive who would deny that when it comes to infants fed is best, whatever their method of choice. Your desperation to create controversy is quite sad. | |||
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"And the feelings of those who can't breastfeed Is that not important Your desperation for debate, Tom is verging on pathetic at this point. Those who can't breastfeed for whatever reason are irrelevant to a mum and a baby who just wants food and comfort. Theres not a woman alive who would deny that when it comes to infants fed is best, whatever their method of choice. Your desperation to create controversy is quite sad." Maybe Toms threads not for you. Try Tits Out Tuesday | |||
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"Does this STILL happen. For goodness sake. " Yes, some folk find it repulsive. It is giving a baby what it needs to grow. Grow up nation. It is like topless men versus topless women. | |||
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"Legally i dont think they can ask her to leave because she was breastfeeding. My wife breastfed in public, as is her right, and only once did someone make a comment. Her reply was "my baby needs food and you cannot stop a mother from feeding her child". Restaurants, etc are private enterprises and legally they are allowed to use use their own discretion on who they allow and don’t allow. This is done so that all eventualities are covered. Businesses don’t turn away money without a valid reason. My opinion is there is nothing wrong in breastfeeding the baby. But maybe other clients don’t approve. Local custom and social norms come into play. Use common sense or judgment. Restaurants cannot discriminate and breastfeeding in public is protected in law by the Equality Act. https://www.nhs.uk/start-for-life/baby/feeding-your-baby/breastfeeding/breastfeeding-in-public/" Thanks for enlightening the forum. I checked Guernsey gov websites. They are pro breastfeeding, but did not across similar legislation. I have come across women breastfeeding here in uk. No fuss from anyone. | |||
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"Wasn't Bergerac in Jersey? ![]() Yes, it was | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? Absolutely not, men should grow a set and realise that a baby needs to be nurtured When I breastfed my children, it was the women who seemed most put out. Some would look down their nose, tut and mutter unkind comments under their breath. Not that you could see anything anyway, it’s not like I was topless doing the feeding. Incredible how something so natural has become uncomfortable and even taboo in modern times ![]() I blame the Victorians | |||
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"As well as feeding infants in public being socially acceptable as a natural act, so should creating them!" Do you genuinely think that a woman breastfeeding is a sexual act? | |||
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"As well as feeding infants in public being socially acceptable as a natural act, so should creating them! Do you genuinely think that a woman breastfeeding is a sexual act? " Erm... I used the term 'natural act', not 'sexual act'. I haven't had a genuine thought on here for ages! | |||
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"On the subject of breastfeeding, How many of you on here are old enough to remember the classic sketch on 'Not the Nine O'clock News' where Pamela Stephenson came home to a quizzical husband with one breast hanging out (after the 8pm watershed)? Following his incredulous gaze down to her chest, she exclaimed "Oh, my God, I've left the baby on the bus"! " Really funny Will check it out on YouTube. | |||
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"On the subject of breastfeeding, How many of you on here are old enough to remember the classic sketch on 'Not the Nine O'clock News' where Pamela Stephenson came home to a quizzical husband with one breast hanging out (after the 8pm watershed)? Following his incredulous gaze down to her chest, she exclaimed "Oh, my God, I've left the baby on the bus"! Really funny Will check it out on YouTube. " Found this, but not the real sketch. https://youtu.be/1rOhmlsh5Y8?si=wN2R7OTcUPcAaBug | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ?" Women are " discrete " they are very distinctive and individual . | |||
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"Should the women be more discrete ? No they shouldn't. People should be more discreet, mind their own damn business and stop eyeballing mothers caring for their infants. " totally agree mother doing whats natural. | |||
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