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Is conformity a human condition?

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.

The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.

I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.

What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too

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By *ostindreamsMan
48 weeks ago

London

Partially agree with it. I believe we all have personal desires. As long as those desires don't go directly against the norms of the society, we try our best to confirm with the society as it gives us a massive advantage.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
48 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

Yes. I think it is for the majority of people

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago

I’d say no

Potential why there’s so much mental health issues

I’d say we are unfortunately victims of being gaslighted by a very cleaver system that has done all the research needed to find out what happens when pressure is applied

Of course there’s always an element of the population that will never yield to this kind of gaslighting and goes fully against

But it’s a very interesting subject,I’d have liked to have watched that documentary

Mr

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By *uzie69xTV/TS
48 weeks ago

Maidstone

I would say yes.

Most trans women who transition late in life do not pass and currently there is a resurgence of hate crime against us.

The decision to live full time as a woman (who doesn't pass easily) is certainly NOT conforming. The men I enjoy sex with are conformists and live in fear of being outed as trans "admirers". So I'm not their "dirty little secret", they are their own dirty little secret.

So I would consider myself a brave/foolish exception but yes, most people fear being different and do conform.

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By *onameyet2Man
48 weeks ago

chorley

You only need one example, religion

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago

We're social animals. We'd never have survived otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago

Conformity doesn’t exist too much in the west, compared with eastern nations.

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago


"I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.

The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.

I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.

What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too "

Neither good nor bad, it just is part of our setup. It stems from the fear of being excluded from the group, which even in the not so distant past would mean death through being denied access to food, shelter, and protection of the group; or death by getting killed by the group turning against the non-conforming individuals. It is still very much a thing although it manifests itself in different guises and some groups are keen on killing the non-conformists.

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By *hilloutMan
48 weeks ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

Most people are conformist and are loathe to be on the opposite end of a general concensus. The more controversial the subject matter, the greater the pressure to conform and not be disagreeable.

The greatest example of this was Covid19

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Partially agree with it. I believe we all have personal desires. As long as those desires don't go directly against the norms of the society, we try our best to confirm with the society as it gives us a massive advantage."
You are right there, as it gives a massive advantage if one confirms too.

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By *ts the taking part thatMan
48 weeks ago

southampton

If you say so, I,ll go along with it.

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By *ealitybitesMan
48 weeks ago

Belfast

It really depends on the situation.

I don't knowingly break any laws and will conform to social norms without any thought or difficulty.

At the same time I can't remember ever giving into peer pressure.

If anything I have done the opposite to what my peers have been doing.

I don't smoke or drink and never have done.

I didn't experiment with either growing up even though every single one of my friends and peers did.

My reasoning behind it had nothing to do with right or wrong and everything to do with just not wanting to and having the strength of character to not be influenced.

So yes I do conform but often I conform to my own principles rather than others.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
48 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"It really depends on the situation.

I don't knowingly break any laws and will conform to social norms without any thought or difficulty.

At the same time I can't remember ever giving into peer pressure.

If anything I have done the opposite to what my peers have been doing.

I don't smoke or drink and never have done.

I didn't experiment with either growing up even though every single one of my friends and peers did.

My reasoning behind it had nothing to do with right or wrong and everything to do with just not wanting to and having the strength of character to not be influenced.

So yes I do conform but often I conform to my own principles rather than others. "

Yeah I agree. I never ever did anything to fit in. When everyone else was smoking dodgy shit I didn’t want to so I didn’t. I have no issues with being the odd one out.

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By *naswingdressWoman
48 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think we all tell ourselves comforting stories.

That we do things because we're individuals, while other people do things because they conform or are irrational.

And it's just that: stories. People are often very keen to shout about how individualistic they are, even when they're doing whatever 99% of the population are doing, and even when they demonise people who do things differently.

I also think the Milgram experiments have been overblown in their significance in the psychological literature - and this too is part of our story. Researchers trying to twist research and research participants to try to explain the Nazis, ended up creating some more lore.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
48 weeks ago

East Sussex

Going from the military service thread there are quite a few people who would like everyone to conform to the states idea of discipline, work ethic and tidyness.

There are very few real individuals in the world, those that are tend to get marginalised and bullied or feted as the next best thing ...then everyone copies them

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Yes. I think it is for the majority of people "
Yes, you are right there. I would also say that it is for the majority of people too

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
48 weeks ago

Central

We're social animals, so have a very high degree of being influenced by others. Most of it is outside of our awareness. And when we believe we're not susceptible, we really are.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"We're social animals. We'd never have survived otherwise."
Yes, you are right there, we are social animals too

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago

Its a social thing for shallow brain dead to try and be accepted and gain popularity by a group as unpopular as they already are.

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By *ellhungvweMan
48 weeks ago

Cheltenham

Like everyone else I am an individual free thinker so I am going to wait to see which way the thread goes before telling you what I think.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
48 weeks ago

Reading

The latest generation love to conform to non comformity.

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago


"I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.

The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.

I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.

What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too "

Bad in every way for the individual.

Only ever good for governments, corporate dominance, global trends, globalisation, politics, wars, corruption, social media.

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By *cuk4funCouple
48 weeks ago

city centre


"Most people are conformist and are loathe to be on the opposite end of a general concensus. The more controversial the subject matter, the greater the pressure to conform and not be disagreeable.

The greatest example of this was Covid19"

Covid 19 was the greatest social experiment carried out on a world wide scale. When we look back now its with incredulity at what we were forced to do . 5 klm limits must have been the most illogical one of all. But ...millions obeyed without a word or question. Scary stuff. My motto now is trust no-one , suspect everyone ...

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Yes. I think it is for the majority of people "
Yes. I also think that it is for the majority of people too.

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