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"I'm going to summarise something that happened recently... it was not good We met online, the chat was good, and thee were no expectations beyond meeting, seeing if we want to meet again. We arranged to go to a party. We agreed to met six hours before the party to have time to get to know each other and get comfortable with each other, do some shopping for the party, and get changed. This being London, Victorian time tolerances apply hence six hours. We were supposed to meet at "around 3:00pm" so of course I am there at 2:45pm wearing a pair of nicely polished shoes, a new pair of chinos, a nice dark peacoat over a jacket over a white shirt. I smell of good niche perfume. I am wearing my best look and smell... She is not answering my messages until 3:30pm when she tells me that she will be leaving "very soon". At 4:30 I get a message that she is on the bus (takes 40 min) instead of the Tube (takes 15 min). At 5:30pm I finally see her and ... she has wet hair, nails not done, I will spare the description of her clothing. Fine. We are going to a party, she is simply wearing comfortable clothes. No biggie. However... she talks in a funny convoluted way, following at least three threads of conversation often not waiting for my answer and I can see she may be on something. I initially chalk it up to nervousness, but she get nasty, making rude comments about my ethnicity, my face, and my accent... We go to the shop and she makes an absolute ass of herself there being rude to the assistants. We leave and I ask her what is going on. She tells me she is on anti-depressants and later she admits to liking a puff of the stuff... I was quite clear I do not do drugs and expect my partners to not do them either, but she doesn't care... With her being 2.5 hours late and spending half an hour in the shop we only have 3 hours to get ready for the party. She wants a drink... something "weak, double rum ..." I ask her if she's absolutely sure and if it will not make her ill... "no, I'm fine" then she wants another one... (I told her I don't drink and I don't want my partners to drink before the party, she doesn't care) she then proceeds to tell me about her recent partners (one former sexual worker) and STIs... "all cleared..." she is also mostly talking to herself. I tell her it's not going to work and leave the pub. She keeps sending me messages all night until she gets home. I then block her on all channels. I have a feeling ladies can relate... sometimes it's just not worth making an effort and dressing up of the occasion " Didn’t read all of that but sounds like you got your Ickle ego bruised and didn’t have a single amount of empathy for what was going on… no need to bitch and moan about here… | |||
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"Well, you do know how to pick them. In all seriousness though, you never can tell how someone is through text. People can talk themselves up and fall short. I think she had a result you didn't walk within 10 minutes. " I met enough women to know they can be really nervous and behave strangely for the first hour or so before they realise I am a normal guy. I met one who was giggling nervously so hard we had to leave the pub, she asked me to go sit of a bench and calmly talk it through. So I was giving this one a massive benefit of the doubt. But the credit line ran out eventually. | |||
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"I'm going to summarise something that happened recently... it was not good We met online, the chat was good, and thee were no expectations beyond meeting, seeing if we want to meet again. We arranged to go to a party. We agreed to met six hours before the party to have time to get to know each other and get comfortable with each other, do some shopping for the party, and get changed. This being London, Victorian time tolerances apply hence six hours. We were supposed to meet at "around 3:00pm" so of course I am there at 2:45pm wearing a pair of nicely polished shoes, a new pair of chinos, a nice dark peacoat over a jacket over a white shirt. I smell of good niche perfume. I am wearing my best look and smell... She is not answering my messages until 3:30pm when she tells me that she will be leaving "very soon". At 4:30 I get a message that she is on the bus (takes 40 min) instead of the Tube (takes 15 min). At 5:30pm I finally see her and ... she has wet hair, nails not done, I will spare the description of her clothing. Fine. We are going to a party, she is simply wearing comfortable clothes. No biggie. However... she talks in a funny convoluted way, following at least three threads of conversation often not waiting for my answer and I can see she may be on something. I initially chalk it up to nervousness, but she get nasty, making rude comments about my ethnicity, my face, and my accent... We go to the shop and she makes an absolute ass of herself there being rude to the assistants. We leave and I ask her what is going on. She tells me she is on anti-depressants and later she admits to liking a puff of the stuff... I was quite clear I do not do drugs and expect my partners to not do them either, but she doesn't care... With her being 2.5 hours late and spending half an hour in the shop we only have 3 hours to get ready for the party. She wants a drink... something "weak, double rum ..." I ask her if she's absolutely sure and if it will not make her ill... "no, I'm fine" then she wants another one... (I told her I don't drink and I don't want my partners to drink before the party, she doesn't care) she then proceeds to tell me about her recent partners (one former sexual worker) and STIs... "all cleared..." she is also mostly talking to herself. I tell her it's not going to work and leave the pub. She keeps sending me messages all night until she gets home. I then block her on all channels. I have a feeling ladies can relate... sometimes it's just not worth making an effort and dressing up of the occasion " Blimey! I just don't understand why you stuck around as long as you did! the second she got insulting I'd of got out of dodge What a hot mess of fresh hell | |||
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"You're more bothered about dressing up than I am but I probably wouldn't have hung around for more than a drink's worth waiting for someone. Also: party? On a first date? Disaster artist " I had a spare ticket, it seemed like something that could work and I wanted to go anyway. | |||
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"You win some, you lose some Maybe just arrange a coffee next time you meet someone. It shouldn't matter so much then if her nails aren't done " Not often we agree but this! | |||
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"I'm going to summarise something that happened recently... it was not good We met online, the chat was good, and thee were no expectations beyond meeting, seeing if we want to meet again. We arranged to go to a party. We agreed to met six hours before the party to have time to get to know each other and get comfortable with each other, do some shopping for the party, and get changed. This being London, Victorian time tolerances apply hence six hours. We were supposed to meet at "around 3:00pm" so of course I am there at 2:45pm wearing a pair of nicely polished shoes, a new pair of chinos, a nice dark peacoat over a jacket over a white shirt. I smell of good niche perfume. I am wearing my best look and smell... She is not answering my messages until 3:30pm when she tells me that she will be leaving "very soon". At 4:30 I get a message that she is on the bus (takes 40 min) instead of the Tube (takes 15 min). At 5:30pm I finally see her and ... she has wet hair, nails not done, I will spare the description of her clothing. Fine. We are going to a party, she is simply wearing comfortable clothes. No biggie. However... she talks in a funny convoluted way, following at least three threads of conversation often not waiting for my answer and I can see she may be on something. I initially chalk it up to nervousness, but she get nasty, making rude comments about my ethnicity, my face, and my accent... We go to the shop and she makes an absolute ass of herself there being rude to the assistants. We leave and I ask her what is going on. She tells me she is on anti-depressants and later she admits to liking a puff of the stuff... I was quite clear I do not do drugs and expect my partners to not do them either, but she doesn't care... With her being 2.5 hours late and spending half an hour in the shop we only have 3 hours to get ready for the party. She wants a drink... something "weak, double rum ..." I ask her if she's absolutely sure and if it will not make her ill... "no, I'm fine" then she wants another one... (I told her I don't drink and I don't want my partners to drink before the party, she doesn't care) she then proceeds to tell me about her recent partners (one former sexual worker) and STIs... "all cleared..." she is also mostly talking to herself. I tell her it's not going to work and leave the pub. She keeps sending me messages all night until she gets home. I then block her on all channels. I have a feeling ladies can relate... sometimes it's just not worth making an effort and dressing up of the occasion Didn’t read all of that but sounds like you got your Ickle ego bruised and didn’t have a single amount of empathy for what was going on… no need to bitch and moan about here…" Wow. | |||
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"K.I.S.S Keep It Simple Stupid Coffee and a relaxed chat for the first one." That's what I do every time, except I had a spare ticket and was up for going with someone who missed the sale. Lesson learned a while ago. | |||
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"K.I.S.S Keep It Simple Stupid Coffee and a relaxed chat for the first one. That's what I do every time, except I had a spare ticket and was up for going with someone who missed the sale. Lesson learned a while ago." Yeah, feel for you buddy. | |||
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"I wouldn't have waited for her if she was that late op ....no way....the fact you did wait & it appears she was defo not the person you were expecting I'd have made my excuses & left" | |||
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"If I arranged to meet at 3 and had no reply to my messages til 3.30 I would have walked away" He was early as I’d be too, so 45 minutes sort of thing. But yeah 3.30 and walk away | |||
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"I'm going to summarise something that happened recently... it was not good We met online, the chat was good, and thee were no expectations beyond meeting, seeing if we want to meet again. We arranged to go to a party. We agreed to met six hours before the party to have time to get to know each other and get comfortable with each other, do some shopping for the party, and get changed. This being London, Victorian time tolerances apply hence six hours. We were supposed to meet at "around 3:00pm" so of course I am there at 2:45pm wearing a pair of nicely polished shoes, a new pair of chinos, a nice dark peacoat over a jacket over a white shirt. I smell of good niche perfume. I am wearing my best look and smell... She is not answering my messages until 3:30pm when she tells me that she will be leaving "very soon". At 4:30 I get a message that she is on the bus (takes 40 min) instead of the Tube (takes 15 min). At 5:30pm I finally see her and ... she has wet hair, nails not done, I will spare the description of her clothing. Fine. We are going to a party, she is simply wearing comfortable clothes. No biggie. However... she talks in a funny convoluted way, following at least three threads of conversation often not waiting for my answer and I can see she may be on something. I initially chalk it up to nervousness, but she get nasty, making rude comments about my ethnicity, my face, and my accent... We go to the shop and she makes an absolute ass of herself there being rude to the assistants. We leave and I ask her what is going on. She tells me she is on anti-depressants and later she admits to liking a puff of the stuff... I was quite clear I do not do drugs and expect my partners to not do them either, but she doesn't care... With her being 2.5 hours late and spending half an hour in the shop we only have 3 hours to get ready for the party. She wants a drink... something "weak, double rum ..." I ask her if she's absolutely sure and if it will not make her ill... "no, I'm fine" then she wants another one... (I told her I don't drink and I don't want my partners to drink before the party, she doesn't care) she then proceeds to tell me about her recent partners (one former sexual worker) and STIs... "all cleared..." she is also mostly talking to herself. I tell her it's not going to work and leave the pub. She keeps sending me messages all night until she gets home. I then block her on all channels. I have a feeling ladies can relate... sometimes it's just not worth making an effort and dressing up of the occasion " You did the right thing. Get away, it may have gone badly wrong and caused problems for the host of the party. We have only had a few problems with folks not quite being what they say on the tin so we stick to meeting for a drink and chat initially, so we can either rearrange a meet or escape the clutches of the strange people. Only happened a few times and on every occasion sadly, its the ladies who are the problem It also gives an opportunity for others to run away from me!! Liz. | |||
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"If I arranged to meet at 3 and had no reply to my messages til 3.30 I would have walked away He was early as I’d be too, so 45 minutes sort of thing. But yeah 3.30 and walk away " To me it’s not so much 45 mins as the fact she agreed to meet at 3 and hasn’t even left at 3:30 so consciously chose not to be there on time. That’s disrespect. | |||
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"I am puzzled why her hair was still wet after walking to the bus stop and 40 minutes on the bus. " Lol | |||
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"If I arranged to meet at 3 and had no reply to my messages til 3.30 I would have walked away He was early as I’d be too, so 45 minutes sort of thing. But yeah 3.30 and walk away To me it’s not so much 45 mins as the fact she agreed to meet at 3 and hasn’t even left at 3:30 so consciously chose not to be there on time. That’s disrespect. " Yeah she wasn’t going to. | |||
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"The cynic in me wonders if you needed a female to gain admission to the party, and thats why you let all those red flags slide?" Being a couple is not a condition for admission. | |||
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"I am puzzled why her hair was still wet after walking to the bus stop and 40 minutes on the bus. " She said she was. I did not check. It definitely looked like it was not combed. | |||
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"I did read it all and I have to ask If you have specific boundaries, puffing and driking are a no, why did you carry on when she told you she did them things?" She admitted she did these things on the way to the pub. I figured it would be a good place to part our ways. I should, but did not want to, leave her in the middle of the street. | |||
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"Did you go to the party on your own ?" No, I was too upset. I don't like going to parties in a foul mood. | |||
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"I mean I don't paint my nails for every date but..... " I never paint my nails. The men I shag must have low standards ! | |||
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"And why are you waiting for 2 and a half hours for someone, especially as you've never met before. " This. If you agree to meet at a time, you agree to meet. If either party is late, walk away. If she doesn't respect your time, then she is using you for attention and validation. Only one response. Leave, block her and move on. You were an idiot for waiting. You were a backup choice, she was waiting on the person she actually wanted to go with. Learn, and do better next time, stay strong | |||
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"This is why a lovely coffee first social is always a good idea… " That's why I know the best cafe's with the best pastries in London | |||
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" Was it the Torture Garden party you were looking forward to by any chance? Because it sounds very intense even if it wasn’t that one. Sorry for your bad experiences OP, we all have them and we learn along. " No it wasn't. | |||
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"And why are you waiting for 2 and a half hours for someone, especially as you've never met before. This. If you agree to meet at a time, you agree to meet. If either party is late, walk away. If she doesn't respect your time, then she is using you for attention and validation. Only one response. Leave, block her and move on. You were an idiot for waiting. You were a backup choice, she was waiting on the person she actually wanted to go with. Learn, and do better next time, stay strong" It was definitely a learning experience, and a reminder to stick to my rules. I had a very long streak (5+ years) of reliable meets so my shields were down a little. They are back up. | |||
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"Sorry OP you had that experience. And sorry that some people have been trying to excuse her behaviour due to "nerves". You should really have left her when she turned up in that state - especially after making you wait 2.5hrs! But then, I guess it was your choice to wait. I wouldn't have. You need to get to know folk better before making such plans. Lesson learnt the hard way. Hope you're OK " Thank you for your comment. I waited, because I really had no other plans for the hours before the party, I prepared everything so waiting for her in a cafe was not a huge thing and I am familiar with the "I'll be ready in 5 minutes, honey" time estimates I agree with people who said she was vulnerable. That became quite obvious after her inexcusable behaviour at the shop. We did chat for two weeks beforehand, just could not meet earlier to scheduling conflicts and distance (London is a big place. She lives in. a different part of it), but I did not spot signs that would raise red flags and make me reconsider. In the end I thought that if it works out we are going to have a good time regardless or I'm going alone. What I did not prepare for was the s**tshow I was served. I am used to comments regarding my origins, my accent, and my facial features, but I have not been given a lecture on the three from someone who's not a native Brit for a while. Things went downhill really fast when she was rude to the shopping assistants. I shop there often and will have to apologise next time I'm there, maybe even bring a box of chocolates. Yes, she is vulnerable and needs professional help, but that's for her to ask for and for professionals to provide. I am fine, can laugh about it now. I am also quite relieved that she got back home safely. She's trying to reach out to me on the email address I gave her, promising not to stalk me, but I am not replying. I am quite strict about ending a relationship. When it's over, all bridges burn. | |||
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