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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school." If I'd had to apply false eyelashes before school I'd have been late every day  | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal "  | |||
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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school." One of the reasons for uniform in schools is inclusion. The more deviations from the basic uniform is tolerated, the more obvious it becomes when poorer families can't keep up. Cal | |||
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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school. One of the reasons for uniform in schools is inclusion. The more deviations from the basic uniform is tolerated, the more obvious it becomes when poorer families can't keep up. Cal " I agree. Probably won’t ban it though. They’ll be too worried about the backlash in offending people with short eyelashes. | |||
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"Botox lips soon .. Mark Toms Words" Would it be a problem if they still completed their academic work? | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal " Social media indoctrination for you alas | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal Social media indoctrination for you alas " When I was at school we all needed to wear makeup and roll our skirts up. Social media didn’t exist. | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal Social media indoctrination for you alas When I was at school we all needed to wear makeup and roll our skirts up. Social media didn’t exist." Life was different back then. When people just wore short skirts and maybe some lipoy in the 90s | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal Social media indoctrination for you alas When I was at school we all needed to wear makeup and roll our skirts up. Social media didn’t exist. Life was different back then. When people just wore short skirts and maybe some lipoy in the 90s " I dunno about you, but I wore very heavy makeup in the late nineties and early millenium. It’s absolutely no different. | |||
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"It's wrong. The havs and have nots will be clearer, deviation from standard uniform allows more lack of respect for authority. Letting kid's do whatever the fuck they want isn't the way forward. We live in a world with zero consequences for not respecting or following rules. It's a place of learning and education not a bloody beauty pageant. " Dad?! Is that you? | |||
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"It's wrong. The havs and have nots will be clearer, deviation from standard uniform allows more lack of respect for authority. Letting kid's do whatever the fuck they want isn't the way forward. We live in a world with zero consequences for not respecting or following rules. It's a place of learning and education not a bloody beauty pageant. Dad?! Is that you?" | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal Social media indoctrination for you alas When I was at school we all needed to wear makeup and roll our skirts up. Social media didn’t exist. Life was different back then. When people just wore short skirts and maybe some lipoy in the 90s I dunno about you, but I wore very heavy makeup in the late nineties and early millenium. It’s absolutely no different." Me and my mates used to pancake it on all the cheapo stuff we bought down the market. At least the young girls now seem to put it on really well  | |||
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"The school where I work, there are many girls wearing huge false eyelashes, massive false nails, loads of makeup and fake tan. Personally I am not a fan of the look, I would rather all these things were not allowed on n schools at all, but this is how girls "need" to look these days. Cal Social media indoctrination for you alas When I was at school we all needed to wear makeup and roll our skirts up. Social media didn’t exist. Life was different back then. When people just wore short skirts and maybe some lipoy in the 90s I dunno about you, but I wore very heavy makeup in the late nineties and early millenium. It’s absolutely no different." Wasn’t remotely the norm in Surrey where I was across the school. It was mainly girls wearing hair up / pouting lips and nail varnish Students were sent home regularly for skirt errors or rolling in with full makeup occasionally. Most of the girls just wore it for attention of older boys in years above tbh as well. Unlike today where they have added on pressure from multiple angles they it’s expected of them. My teenage cousins & nieces frequently tell me about their shitty stresses of school life with social media non stop tacking on. School life today is far more pressured from peers than back in your/my day where we barely had the internet in 90s let alone smart phones like they have today always online . | |||
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"... The havs and have nots will be clearer, deviation from standard uniform allows more lack of respect for authority. Letting kid's do whatever the fuck they want isn't the way forward. ... " It should help the chavs to stand out from the chav nots! | |||
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"The school I went to was very strict on uniform and everything else come to that. Discipline was pretty good, so was compliance with uniform rules. However we live in very different times and I doubt the clock can be turned back " True but it doesn't mean that we should just give up. | |||
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"The school I went to was very strict on uniform and everything else come to that. Discipline was pretty good, so was compliance with uniform rules. However we live in very different times and I doubt the clock can be turned back True but it doesn't mean that we should just give up." No it doesn't. I think there's something to be said for fairly strict rules it gives kids something to kick against. The more lax the rules the harder they have to kick. We risked detention for eating in the street or not wearing our hat | |||
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"The reasons why girls feel the need to change their looks in the first place is more of a concern than a School's uniform policy" This | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?" why are they there? | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there? "I only went for the social life playtime and home time!  x | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there? "I genuinely don't know because the education system seems to have one not very clear idea and parents and guardians seem to have another not very clear idea. Both sets of ideas can change according to what is going on at the time. | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! x"Exactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys "Was it an all girls school? | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?"no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing." If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here "That fact is undeniable naturally. Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school?" If women teachers can wear them why can't the pupils? | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here
That fact is undeniable naturally.
Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. "Well of course thats one way of looking at it but of course it was a female headteacher that said it, thankfully my daughters progressed as this was a junior school and have had fairly successful eductions | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school?" If the contract of employment stipulated no false lashes or no makeup, then you would be expected to adhere to that. If the rules in a school say no this or no that then you should be expected to adhere to that. Another example of how our time in school helps to prepare us for life in the workplace. | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here
That fact is undeniable naturally.
Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. Well of course thats one way of looking at it but of course it was a female headteacher that said it, thankfully my daughters progressed as this was a junior school and have had fairly successful eductions "Women are frequently the worst for it. Our daughter came home with a note from secondary school that asked the girls to wear less revealing clothes as it was distracting for the boys and !lad teachers. No equivalent note was sent to the men and boys explaining about respect, not being distracted by lovely shiny things and letting women get on with their work. | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here
That fact is undeniable naturally.
Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. "You weren't distracted then? | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here
That fact is undeniable naturally.
Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. You weren't distracted then? "Because I went to school in 1850? I had to leave at 12 years old to become a scullery maid... | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys "Ohh yes forgot the boys! Face palm! X  | |||
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"If it gets them into school and they’re doing the work rather than being on insta or snap all day then it can only be a good thing. " That was originally the reason behind it according to the op. I genuinely can't see how false eyelashes prevent anyone from learning or attending school. I'm all for school rules and some sort of uniform but they have to be reasonable and enforceable | |||
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"Is it compulsory or worrying less about what students have on their faces and more about the reason they're there in the first place?why are they there?
I only went for the social life playtime and home time! xExactly and from what i can see thats the same for all of them, i used to help out at my daughters school and the headmistress actually made a point in an assembly of saying thats all the majority of children at that school were interested in, makeup and boys
Was it an all girls school?no but she obviously referred to the most important sex first as we do here
That fact is undeniable naturally.
Seriously though the emphasis is often on girls being somehow distracted by shiny things and boys. Or their very presence being distracting *to* the boys. It's like nothing has changed since 1850 and girls should be kept away from anything that might distract their feeble minds and in order to allow serious men to get on with the important stuff. You weren't distracted then?
Because I went to school in 1850? I had to leave at 12 years old to become a scullery maid..."lol much stricter in 1850 | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school?" Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare | |||
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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school. One of the reasons for uniform in schools is inclusion. The more deviations from the basic uniform is tolerated, the more obvious it becomes when poorer families can't keep up. Cal " I was in a family of six and school uniform enabled recycling and hand me downs so our poverty didn't show so much at school. | |||
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"Is that a new science lesson. Cool. Flutters eyes  "More enjoyable than boring maths. | |||
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"What next Tom? Hot pants and daisy dukes? This is the thin end of the wedge, make no mistake!" That's a thong imho. Jus sayin. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare " It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. | |||
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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school. One of the reasons for uniform in schools is inclusion. The more deviations from the basic uniform is tolerated, the more obvious it becomes when poorer families can't keep up. Cal I was in a family of six and school uniform enabled recycling and hand me downs so our poverty didn't show so much at school." I was the only girl in a family of boys. We didn't have a lot of money, it showed in the age of my uniform, shes, pe out etc next to the girls from well off backgrounds | |||
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"It's wrong. The havs and have nots will be clearer, deviation from standard uniform allows more lack of respect for authority. Letting kid's do whatever the fuck they want isn't the way forward. We live in a world with zero consequences for not respecting or following rules. It's a place of learning and education not a bloody beauty pageant. " Absolutely! | |||
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"It does make me sad to read most of the comments on here. Rules should be rules. I’ve always stuck to the uniform rules with my two but when loads of others just “get away with it” it’s not easy. How’s it fair if I do yet loads of other girls wear different colour shoes and make up etc. I’ve given up now. It’s ridiculous. Soon there’ll be no rules at all. I agree with Miss Shady’s comment too. " I agree but the school in question is allowing false eye lashes as part of the uniform. It seems a sensible move to me if only because once they're allowed by authority nobody will want to wear them. | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise." False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. " | |||
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"Can’t see a problem, as long as they attend school. One of the reasons for uniform in schools is inclusion. The more deviations from the basic uniform is tolerated, the more obvious it becomes when poorer families can't keep up. Cal I was in a family of six and school uniform enabled recycling and hand me downs so our poverty didn't show so much at school. I was the only girl in a family of boys. We didn't have a lot of money, it showed in the age of my uniform, shes, pe out etc next to the girls from well off backgrounds" Me too but wearing own clothes is worse. Own clothes day induced a lot of panic. I pulled out of a residential trip (after my dad paid the deposit - and was not impressed) because I didn't have the nice clothes others had. I would never have told him that. I just missed out instead. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? If women teachers can wear them why can't the pupils? " Teachers don't have to wear uniform, does that mean the students shouldn't either? | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. " How does it distract pupils from learning? | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise." He certainly did dress up, when in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and King James or when posing for a portrait. Flip flops and bikini wouldn’t prevent them learning mathematics or quoting a sonnet either. Where would you set the limit? Or do you see no need for governance and boundaries? | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? If women teachers can wear them why can't the pupils? Teachers don't have to wear uniform, does that mean the students shouldn't either? " Good point, well made | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. He certainly did dress up, when in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and King James or when posing for a portrait. Flip flops and bikini wouldn’t prevent them learning mathematics or quoting a sonnet either. Where would you set the limit? Or do you see no need for governance and boundaries?" Of course I see a limit. We've moved on here from a school that's allowing false eyelashes to claiming that kids will be turning up for their first job in flip flops and a bikini because of it. False eyelashes in and of themselves do not spell the end of civilisation as we know it. I see a school that accepts that for some pupils false eyelashes improve morale and confidence...How is that a bad thing? | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. How does it distract pupils from learning?" In a similar way to mobile phones, instead of being focused on the lesson, some will be focusing on those things in class time instead of the lesson. It only takes two people to be more interested in seeing their new lashes or make up and the class is disrupted. The fewer distractions from learning the better. On a separate note, I think it says volumes about people’s attitudes when things like this have to be adopted to ‘encourage’ people to attend school. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? If women teachers can wear them why can't the pupils? Teachers don't have to wear uniform, does that mean the students shouldn't either? Good point, well made" I have my moments! I just think it's a bit silly to say "well the teachers can do X so so the students should be allowed too" where do you draw the line? I was a rebel and a pain in the arse at school so, it's not that I'm against rebellious kids but, it does concern me that so many people now seem to believe children should have full autonomy. I regularly see parents being told what to do by their kids and the parent just acquiescing that straight away, as if they had no authority. People really need to stop bending to the will of children. We all remember what it was like being a kid, how stupid you are even into your 20s! How can any adult in their right mind give into children's demands and give them as much freedom as an adult? I'm not talking specifically about the false eyelashes (something I wish adults would wear either as they generally look awful and I very much prefer a woman who looks how she looks!) I'm using that as an example of the many areas in which people are not only suggesting but, allowing and encouraging children to do. Lower the voting age to 16 for example. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. He certainly did dress up, when in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and King James or when posing for a portrait. Flip flops and bikini wouldn’t prevent them learning mathematics or quoting a sonnet either. Where would you set the limit? Or do you see no need for governance and boundaries? Of course I see a limit. We've moved on here from a school that's allowing false eyelashes to claiming that kids will be turning up for their first job in flip flops and a bikini because of it. False eyelashes in and of themselves do not spell the end of civilisation as we know it. I see a school that accepts that for some pupils false eyelashes improve morale and confidence...How is that a bad thing?" No, we haven’t got to bikinis at work yet. If a child is dependent on false eyelashes for morale and confidence, I suggest the child has bigger issues or maybe we could also suggest Botox and a boob job. They are children who benefit from a level of conformity that enables social cohesion and an understanding of what will be required in the workplace. Every princess insisting that they have a platform can do so outside of school hours as being so fixated on peacocking and feeling so disenfranchised offers an opportunity to learn that there is a time and place for everything. Maybe I am a dinosaur… | |||
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"This is nothing new though if its not eyelashes it will be something else. It was the same when i was at school and im sure it was the same when everyone else was. Whether it was fashion to the latest books to football. Unless you stop every single outside influence there is always going to be a distraction to learning because its human nature. The argument for distraction is a pretty weak one unless you intend to send every child to boarding school without any outside influence as there will always be something that distracts attention. " Just because there will always be ‘something’ is about a weak an argument as it gets. Minimise and manage the distractions, | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. How does it distract pupils from learning?" It does. I'm forever asking girls to put eyelash curlers ect away. They sit in lessons doing each other's makeup and braiding hair. It isn't just the first session. It's all day, as they redo hair/makeup constantly. It leads to much antagonism as some resent being asked, this means it escalates. A lot of staff time is spent dealing with issues of defiance because of behaviour like this. Letting them do as they wish doesn't set them up well for adulthood and moreover provides huge distraction in the classroom. | |||
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"A school in a place called Sevenoaks in Kent, made famous after a storm blew down six of the oaktrees is allowing false eyelashes to be part of the uniform to improve attendance and mental health amongst it's pupils... What is going on here guys? It's all over the news" One oaks then? Sounds a bit like Holly oaks. I'm not sure cosmetic beauty products should be part of school life. Won't somebody please think of the children.! | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. How does it distract pupils from learning? It does. I'm forever asking girls to put eyelash curlers ect away. They sit in lessons doing each other's makeup and braiding hair. It isn't just the first session. It's all day, as they redo hair/makeup constantly. It leads to much antagonism as some resent being asked, this means it escalates. A lot of staff time is spent dealing with issues of defiance because of behaviour like this. Letting them do as they wish doesn't set them up well for adulthood and moreover provides huge distraction in the classroom. " | |||
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" It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. False eye lashes in and of themselves don’t stop learning no. When you get situations of people trying to out do the next person, bigger more colourful more outrageous etc, it just becomes yet another distraction from the purpose of school attendance. Make up , jewellery, fashion all have their place in teenagers lives, I don’t think school is that place. How does it distract pupils from learning? It does. I'm forever asking girls to put eyelash curlers ect away. They sit in lessons doing each other's makeup and braiding hair. It isn't just the first session. It's all day, as they redo hair/makeup constantly. It leads to much antagonism as some resent being asked, this means it escalates. A lot of staff time is spent dealing with issues of defiance because of behaviour like this. Letting them do as they wish doesn't set them up well for adulthood and moreover provides huge distraction in the classroom. " I admit that I'm way out of touch with secondary schools. My recent experience is in FE where exclusion etc was easier and most students were there because they chose to be those that didn't want to be there caused problems of course. It was a daily fashion parade from all genders and I guess having dedicated hair and beauty departments actively encouraged certain students to look the part as did the uniformed services courses anyone wanting to be air crew or a member of the armed forces soon learned that dressing a certain way would be required . I still don't think false eyelashes are the actual problem though | |||
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" Letting them do as they wish doesn't set them up well for adulthood and moreover provides huge distraction in the classroom. " Hit the nail, on the head. | |||
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"People will undoubtedly say , “what’s the problem” but I believe boundaries and a sense of occasion are seriously missing. If someone can wear false lashes to the office, why can’t they be worn to school? Maybe abandon school uniforms, even promote neck tattoos and ensure that there are no boundaries … sorry but I am unapologetically old school. I fear that we have kids raised by kids with a sense of entitlement and expectations and no understanding of a time and place. Maybe high heels to go along with the rolled up skirts that leave little to the imagination… maybe the eye lashes will distract from that… Then when they get to work, having no respect for the school dress code, they can rock up in a bikini and flip flops. The child and I assume the parent is enabling this which suggest a lot about there focus at school which is looking like a night out verse learning and preparing for their future. Friday and Saturday night is where the learn to put on makeup, false lashes and other cosmetic enhancements that achieve an end on the night out but have limited benefits when contemplating trigonometry or Shakespeare It's false eyelashes. They genuinely don't stop people from learning. I mean Shakespeare was hardly low maintenance dress wise. He certainly did dress up, when in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and King James or when posing for a portrait. Flip flops and bikini wouldn’t prevent them learning mathematics or quoting a sonnet either. Where would you set the limit? Or do you see no need for governance and boundaries? Of course I see a limit. We've moved on here from a school that's allowing false eyelashes to claiming that kids will be turning up for their first job in flip flops and a bikini because of it. False eyelashes in and of themselves do not spell the end of civilisation as we know it. I see a school that accepts that for some pupils false eyelashes improve morale and confidence...How is that a bad thing? No, we haven’t got to bikinis at work yet. If a child is dependent on false eyelashes for morale and confidence, I suggest the child has bigger issues or maybe we could also suggest Botox and a boob job. They are children who benefit from a level of conformity that enables social cohesion and an understanding of what will be required in the workplace. Every princess insisting that they have a platform can do so outside of school hours as being so fixated on peacocking and feeling so disenfranchised offers an opportunity to learn that there is a time and place for everything. Maybe I am a dinosaur…" It's literally false eye lashes being allowed at school. Absolutely nobody has suggested BOTOX or boob jobs as part of school uniform. We are also talking about people entering young adulthood rather than children. I know and understand that rules are required or we'll have anarchy | |||
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"Genuine curious question. If you have those great big long lashes glued on... Does it affect your glasses? " Yes they sweep against them. | |||
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"Genuine curious question. If you have those great big long lashes glued on... Does it affect your glasses? " Yessss they get caught and really uncomfortable is there super long | |||
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"Genuine curious question. If you have those great big long lashes glued on... Does it affect your glasses? Yessss they get caught and really uncomfortable is there super long " I can't get the damn things on. I wish they'd taught me how at school  | |||
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"Its just like the mobile telephone thing how do you actually enforce any of these things without actually wasting teaching time or excluding the child from the education they are meant to be getting, its unfortunately the sad result of the times we live in and it will only get worse "This species will amuse itself to death. (To paraphrase a very insightful musician) | |||
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