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"The fetishisisation of the way black skin looks against white skin gives me the ick and would make me quickly excuse myself from that situation if it was being discussed. I also heavily dislike white people calling black women “ebony” as it’s these days it’s mostly a fetishisatiom/porn industry term that objectifies women based on the colour of their skin. Very similar to the way I personally opt out of terms like milf, bbw, etc." Oh yes... EBONY....cringe indeed, bit like 'chick', visions of women making 'clucking' sounds haha!  | |||
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"….. Oh yes... EBONY....cringe indeed, bit like 'chick', visions of women making 'clucking' sounds haha! "I call the birds, chicks all the time …. 
Op, I can’t fetishise a person. A woman is a woman is a woman regardless of everything. Why she turns me on I will never know.
What I do know is, I can’t find someone attractive just because she has a certain colour skin. A black girl is sexy and I want to feel her naked body against me, not just look at the difference between my white skin.
Just the same way I love boobs, I don’t want to just suck anyone’s boobs, I only want to put my lips to the nipples of someone I fancy.
So I do get curious with those with a fetish, does it matter WHO you want, or is it simply WHAT you want? If that makes sense.
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"At times, the numerous BBC posts have a slew of people mentioning the contrast of dark versus light skin is a point of attraction. As a non-white person, when I read this I ask myself what I’d think about someone saying to me, ‘I love the way your dark skin looks against my white skin’ or something similar. This made me think about fetishising. I’m curious if others see this as fetishism and would steer clear of making such comments or see this as a harmless comment, or perhaps a compliment and wouldn’t think anything negative in saying it. How would you see this? Do you rationalise to his being a compliment in some way? If so, what’s your view? Does this make you cringe to the point you’d never say such thing? Is it fetishism? Do you not see this as fetishising someone’s skin colour if you’re white and the person you’d potentially say this to isn’t? " Love the post OP and seeing similar things I have wondered often about this when I’ve seen it and wondered how people it’s directed must feel and how I feel about it when reading. As it isn’t directed or something that impacts me I’ve had to ask myself if the reason I find it uncomfortable to read is a flaw in me rather than anything else as I’m light skinned. When reading a lot of it does come across as fetishism and not something personally I’d find very pleasant if directed at me as I think it would make me feel like they don’t see or value me as a person but a itch to a kink. We’re all the same regardless of skin tone so it really shouldn’t matter in relation to other preferences. That said though I also have to ask myself if I’m a hypocrite as I find dark skinned woman very attractive as well as light skinned woman and though part of it is the same in both instances, their style and look naturally plays a part of it. The only difference I guess would be it’s based solely on attraction to them rather than a demographic based on a certain kink. Definitely don’t think I would show interest in a woman solely based on one criteria and would never mention their skin tone as being part of my attraction to them even if true as I think as well intended and sincere as it might be that one of the many things you find physically as well as them as a person attractive, it just sounds cringe and off in my head. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong and reading to much into things but that’s just what I came with from imagining how it might make them feel as well how I feel about it x | |||
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"I really like skin and know many people who also do , the softness, the temperature that feeling of having the maximum amount of your skin touching the maximum of theres. I like contrast, so particularly like darker or very pale skinned women. This seems common among men and in Asia / Middle East locals really like white skin partners I guess for the sane reason.- it’s different, not really a fetish. People seem to like the opposite of themselves. The popularity of tanning in the UK is matched by the popularity of skin whitening in many parts of Asia. Some women I know regularly avoid the sun and going to the beach at weekends because it might make the darker" The history of tanning politics is largely tied to wealth rather than because people find the opposite to themselves hot. For instance generally when it is fashionable to be pale it’s mostly because it’s linked to the fact that if you are pale it means you have the privilege to not have to work outdoors. Obviously there’s also lots of colonialism tied up in that in many parts of the world too. When tanning is fashionable it’s generally because tanning is a way that shows you have lots of leisure time and the money to pay for leisure time. That’s why tanning is often popular particularly in the working classes in the UK because it stems from the idea that you had enough money to go on holiday to the beach or similar. | |||
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"I really like skin and know many people who also do , the softness, the temperature that feeling of having the maximum amount of your skin touching the maximum of theres. I like contrast, so particularly like darker or very pale skinned women. This seems common among men and in Asia / Middle East locals really like white skin partners I guess for the sane reason.- it’s different, not really a fetish. People seem to like the opposite of themselves. The popularity of tanning in the UK is matched by the popularity of skin whitening in many parts of Asia. Some women I know regularly avoid the sun and going to the beach at weekends because it might make the darker The history of tanning politics is largely tied to wealth rather than because people find the opposite to themselves hot. For instance generally when it is fashionable to be pale it’s mostly because it’s linked to the fact that if you are pale it means you have the privilege to not have to work outdoors. Obviously there’s also lots of colonialism tied up in that in many parts of the world too. When tanning is fashionable it’s generally because tanning is a way that shows you have lots of leisure time and the money to pay for leisure time. That’s why tanning is often popular particularly in the working classes in the UK because it stems from the idea that you had enough money to go on holiday to the beach or similar." I think that’s one theory. Rich people tan as well and all kinds of people love to have very pale skin, dark eyes and red lips. Maybe they are vampires? Another theory is people like color differences for evolutionary biological reasons, genetic mutation gives a population an evolutionary advantage | |||
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"At times, the numerous BBC posts have a slew of people mentioning the contrast of dark versus light skin is a point of attraction. As a non-white person, when I read this I ask myself what I’d think about someone saying to me, ‘I love the way your dark skin looks against my white skin’ or something similar. This made me think about fetishising. I’m curious if others see this as fetishism and would steer clear of making such comments or see this as a harmless comment, or perhaps a compliment and wouldn’t think anything negative in saying it. How would you see this? Do you rationalise to his being a compliment in some way? If so, what’s your view? Does this make you cringe to the point you’d never say such thing? Is it fetishism? Do you not see this as fetishising someone’s skin colour if you’re white and the person you’d potentially say this to isn’t? " We are sexual creatures and we will fetishise anything. The trick when it comes to fetish is finding two people who are into the same thing. If one finds the thought of their skin colour being fetishised sexually arousing then both partners are likely to enjoy it. If you fell uncomfortable with it, then it is not going to add to the experience and may be a turnoff. However, there is a twist... sometimes we are faced with the realisation that we begin to enjoy something we used to reject. I wonder if that us why you are asking your questions? Have you caught yourself enjoying thinking of someone being aroused by your skin colour? I went through a similar transformation, I used to be not interested in pegging, but a good friend kept patuently pushing boundaries to the point where I bought her a strapon. We all evolve and that's alright. | |||
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" Another theory is people like color differences for evolutionary biological reasons, genetic mutation gives a population an evolutionary advantage " Research actually suggests that most people have a strong draw to others who look like themselves. Genetic mutation is generally considered very much not an advantage for continuation of your genetic line. Although I’m not sure I would call black skin a genetic mutation tbh. | |||
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"I really like skin and know many people who also do , the softness, the temperature that feeling of having the maximum amount of your skin touching the maximum of theres. I like contrast, so particularly like darker or very pale skinned women. This seems common among men and in Asia / Middle East locals really like white skin partners I guess for the sane reason.- it’s different, not really a fetish. People seem to like the opposite of themselves. The popularity of tanning in the UK is matched by the popularity of skin whitening in many parts of Asia. Some women I know regularly avoid the sun and going to the beach at weekends because it might make the darker The history of tanning politics is largely tied to wealth rather than because people find the opposite to themselves hot. For instance generally when it is fashionable to be pale it’s mostly because it’s linked to the fact that if you are pale it means you have the privilege to not have to work outdoors. Obviously there’s also lots of colonialism tied up in that in many parts of the world too. When tanning is fashionable it’s generally because tanning is a way that shows you have lots of leisure time and the money to pay for leisure time. That’s why tanning is often popular particularly in the working classes in the UK because it stems from the idea that you had enough money to go on holiday to the beach or similar." And there’s me thinking I just preferred a less pale skin tone so pop on the sun bed once a week, turns out I’m just a working class oik who can’t think for himself. Shame on me | |||
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"I really like skin and know many people who also do , the softness, the temperature that feeling of having the maximum amount of your skin touching the maximum of theres. I like contrast, so particularly like darker or very pale skinned women. This seems common among men and in Asia / Middle East locals really like white skin partners I guess for the sane reason.- it’s different, not really a fetish. People seem to like the opposite of themselves. The popularity of tanning in the UK is matched by the popularity of skin whitening in many parts of Asia. Some women I know regularly avoid the sun and going to the beach at weekends because it might make the darker The history of tanning politics is largely tied to wealth rather than because people find the opposite to themselves hot. For instance generally when it is fashionable to be pale it’s mostly because it’s linked to the fact that if you are pale it means you have the privilege to not have to work outdoors. Obviously there’s also lots of colonialism tied up in that in many parts of the world too. When tanning is fashionable it’s generally because tanning is a way that shows you have lots of leisure time and the money to pay for leisure time. That’s why tanning is often popular particularly in the working classes in the UK because it stems from the idea that you had enough money to go on holiday to the beach or similar. And there’s me thinking I just preferred a less pale skin tone so pop on the sun bed once a week, turns out I’m just a working class oik who can’t think for himself. Shame on me "It’s ok to understand that our preferences are not formed in a vacuum.  | |||
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" Another theory is people like color differences for evolutionary biological reasons, genetic mutation gives a population an evolutionary advantage Research actually suggests that most people have a strong draw to others who look like themselves. Genetic mutation is generally considered very much not an advantage for continuation of your genetic line. Although I’m not sure I would call black skin a genetic mutation tbh." I’m sure all the black people are relieved to know they’ve not mutants | |||
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"Bella, I'm quite surprised at your question, especially having read your profile. At around 40 and with a profile that is very precise in what you seek you certainly aren't anyone who is insecure and I would assume you to be quite broadminded and as such not necessarily offended. As such I would have thought you would take any (polite) comment as to slightly opposing skin colours looking great to be a compliment. That is the way I think it would be meant, unless said in some sarcastic tone or amidst some negative context. … Anyway, all just my opinion but I guess you pose an interesting question! Let's see what feedback is forthcoming, I'm intrigued! All the best - happy fabbing x " I just- I -  | |||
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"Bella, I'm quite surprised at your question, especially having read your profile. At around 40 and with a profile that is very precise in what you seek you certainly aren't anyone who is insecure and I would assume you to be quite broadminded and as such not necessarily offended. As such I would have thought you would take any (polite) comment as to slightly opposing skin colours looking great to be a compliment. That is the way I think it would be meant, unless said in some sarcastic tone or amidst some negative context. As an example: I refer to the video you have posted. I very much like the overall finish nylon gives a lady's leg. With you wearing those almost black stockings I find they look great on you...and your skin. Were you a very pale white skinned lady I'd prefer a tan stocking, less contrast. Whilst I write this, yrs, I see this is quite specific and hence, would I really mention it? Maybe not, but hey, we are all a little different and often express ourselves in equally different ways. So, to answer your question, I would see any such comments as a positive. I was born and raised in Europe, indeed spent decades away from UK and remember 'black' was once acceptable, then 'of colour' or 'coloured'. All quite confusing as I'd hate to insultvanyone but fmguess our skin colour is used just as any other feature to describe us. For me, it's the person that counts, skin colour is irrelevant to me. Is the white versus black or darker skin a form of fetishism? Surely not. Anyway, all just my opinion but I guess you pose an interesting question! Let's see what feedback is forthcoming, I'm intrigued! All the best - happy fabbing x " You’re assuming this post was inspired by something that I directly experienced. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. | |||
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"This question regarding skin colour gets asked in one form or another quite regularly. When I saw it first I was a little shocked that a preference I have might by too much of a deviance to be accepted on here. My liking of black guys has had me called shallow, ignorant and on occasion that I might be a racist. Just because I like black guys, not dislike or hate but like black guys. I thought this was just a preference but oh no its a fetishism and it's wrong, hence all the threads about it. So I must be wrong. This is voiced on a site, which objectifies the kind of sexual relationships most of society frowns upon. I thought this would be a safe place to have certain preferences without having to justify them. So after awhile I saw more and more contributers who deplored my preference, saying they would never do such a thing. The same people shout out about their feelings around being woke, telling everyone we should be tolerant of everyone's choices, everyone's gender, everyone's sexual orientation, sapiosexual, pansexual and all of the hundreds in-between. These posters talk about supporting all the minority groups. These people will support the issues around BLM but heaven forbid fancy any black guys and you're committing a mortal sin if you fuck a black guy. So all this tolerance that spouting goes so far and only one way apparently.Anyone who says others shouldn't use certain labels such as BBC, Milf, Gilf, Dilf but then put a Rainbow at the end of their posts to show others they are accepting of all the labels that Co.es with the Woke movement are hypocrites. The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. We live in a society we're mixed race relationships are seen as positive, yet mixed race hook ups is wrong, it's unbelievable. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x" I think I understand it, I'll expand on my earlier thoughts with a scenario: A desirable job is advertised. The employer requests only frog-faced people apply, and any frog-faced person is fit for the role. A frog-faced person looks at this and says "how dare you NOT acknowledge my role as being fit for the job because of my excellence at doing it.". Regardless of them being the beneficiaries of it. They say "I'm more than just my amphibious genetics. Stop fetishisation." Any non-frogs look and say: hey, I can do that too why not give me the opportunity to show you! I'm not even getting a look in. Is it just because I'm not an amphibian? "Stop fetishisation." But what if being frog-faced was essential to the role? | |||
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" But I also think I don’t get it. I don’t see the contrast in skin tones attractive. I just see it as two people having sex? I just don’t get why it’s different. " This is what I can’t wrap my head around. I would hope people having sex there is far more than just the contrast of one’s skin that is noteworthy. " Would I say it’s fetishisation? I don’t know. I think it can be a part of someone’s fetishisation. " Same, I don’t know. Having never thought about someone’s skin colour as anything beyond skin I struggle to see it concretely one way or another (fetishising or not). Without knowing the people who post such things, as an outsider looking in, I can’t help but wonder the why behind the statements. Or at least where they are coming from. " I think as a Black person that is attracted to all different people, it can be frustrating to be reduced to just your race and like you’re not seen as attractive because you’re attractive. It sometimes feels like non Black people that find you attractive do tend to be ‘into Black guys’. I haven’t mentioned someone’s skin colour as reason for attraction before because it’s not a factor in *why* they’re attractive to me. And that it is for some people maybe is something to think about like your post provokes, Bella. "  that’s the hope, that it is thought provoking for all. | |||
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"And, Bella, thanks for being unafraid to talk about this. Pondering it is one thing but bringing it up in here and seeing it brought up makes me feel like I’m not going mad for pondering similar things. "I don't think anyone is wrong for pondering about the issue. I just don't understand the negativity surrounding stating such a preference. I believed that stating any preference comes with the implication that as well as satisfying a certain preference I must find you attractive, sexually attractive at that. I also have a preference for younger guys but would not fuck a guy just because he's younger, although lots of the younger guys who message think that entitles them to a meet. As for black guys, it's not just skin tone, it's a whole package. Facial features, hair and attitude, lots of things. I also have a weakness for full lips and a nice mouth. It's just like guys liking brunettes with big bits, girls fancying guys with tattoo, beards and top knots. And I do like all sorts of other guys too but I must find them sexually attractive, I just thought that would be obvious without having to state it. Mrs x | |||
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"In a healthy society there would be absolutely no problem being complimented on the colour of your skin. But it's not a healthy society where one group feels that they are constantly stereotyped based on their skin colour. It's not the thing itself, it's the associations." I would disagree with this given my experience. I grew up in a society where skin colour isn’t a focal point amongst interactions (of the non sexual kind in every day life) amongst people. If someone said another person’s darker skin was beautiful against the contrast of a white person, they’d NOT take it as a compliment. It would be the most absurd comment to make sexually or not. People are truly seen as the same - one race. There’s even a popular song from ages ago (and many more) that says the only difference amongst our people as compared to coffee. Some people like it with less milk than others but at the end of the day the coffee is coffee matter how you make it. Terrible translation but the point is that coffee is coffee and doesn’t become any less or better when it looks different depending on what you may add to it, or not, and same with all of our people. | |||
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"This question regarding skin colour gets asked in one form or another quite regularly. Just because I like black guys, not dislike or hate but like black guys. I thought this was just a preference but oh no its a fetishism and it's wrong, hence all the threads about it. So I must be wrong. So all this tolerance that spouting goes so far and only one way apparently.Anyone who says others shouldn't use certain labels such as BBC, Milf, Gilf, Dilf but then put a Rainbow at the end of their posts to show others they are accepting of all the labels that Co.es with the Woke movement are hypocrites. The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x" I read your entire post but have cut bits out to shorten the space my reply takes up on the thread. I think your post reads as angry or frustrated about your experience. I think people that fetishise Black people are not the same as people that also find Black people attractive. That’s a key difference. I think considering and accepting that many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us, can be hard but it doesn’t have to feel like a personal attack. I think for people that like Black people and one of the reasons is *because* they are Black, it can be difficult to reflect on that. It can be uncomfortable. But if you’re unwilling to, then don’t. And don’t complain when people talk about their experiences and understanding on it. It’s woke. Yes. It’s understanding race and how it has shaped our desires. And what? Tbh, Black people that use the BBC term or fetishise White people are not not really different though I think the fetishising itself doesn’t come from historically power imbalances and doesn’t come from ideas used to oppress white people. On a surface level, Fetishisation may not seem racist but the historical factors are what make it so. Anyway that Black people use a term to try and enable them to be more desirable is for a different thread. But the fetishising of white people, I think, also comes from historic and even modern ideas of beauty and desirability. Many of these people (not all) don’t find Black or Brown women attractive or desirable. That plays into historical ideas around beauty and desirability. But again maybe it’s best to ask them why they feel the way they do. Anyway, yeah. It is what it is. It might feel like it sucks for you that people express opinions on fetishisation but it doesn’t sound like it’s going to change your position. So just ignore it? | |||
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"And, Bella, thanks for being unafraid to talk about this. Pondering it is one thing but bringing it up in here and seeing it brought up makes me feel like I’m not going mad for pondering similar things. I don't think anyone is wrong for pondering about the issue. I just don't understand the negativity surrounding stating such a preference.
I believed that stating any preference comes with the implication that as well as satisfying a certain preference I must find you attractive, sexually attractive at that.
I also have a preference for younger guys but would not fuck a guy just because he's younger, although lots of the younger guys who message think that entitles them to a meet.
As for black guys, it's not just skin tone, it's a whole package. Facial features, hair and attitude, lots of things. I also have a weakness for full lips and a nice mouth.
It's just like guys liking brunettes with big bits, girls fancying guys with tattoo, beards and top knots.
And I do like all sorts of other guys too but I must find them sexually attractive, I just thought that would be obvious without having to state it.
Mrs x"It sounds like you just find all people attractive? People aren’t mad that people find Black people attractive. They’re mad at the fetishisation of Black people. Which is entirely different. If someone likes people of all races or lots of different skin tones attractive, obviously they’re going to find Black people attractive too but it’s not based on their race or racist stereotypes. You like full lips- so you’d like full lips on any race of man. You like hung men- so you’d like hung men of any race. You like younger guys- so you’d like younger guys of any race. Yes obviously you have to find them attractive. But their race isn’t a required quality? So it’s not fetishisation? So don’t internalise these discussions as about you. They’re not. People taking issue with language like BBC etc which you may use idk, is separate. That is a term rooted in racist stereotypes. Reflections on using it, again, shouldn’t have to feel like a personal attack. | |||
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"At times, the numerous BBC posts have a slew of people mentioning the contrast of dark versus light skin is a point of attraction. As a non-white person, when I read this I ask myself what I’d think about someone saying to me, ‘I love the way your dark skin looks against my white skin’ or something similar. This made me think about fetishising. I’m curious if others see this as fetishism and would steer clear of making such comments or see this as a harmless comment, or perhaps a compliment and wouldn’t think anything negative in saying it. How would you see this? Do you rationalise to his being a compliment in some way? If so, what’s your view? Does this make you cringe to the point you’d never say such thing? Is it fetishism? Do you not see this as fetishising someone’s skin colour if you’re white and the person you’d potentially say this to isn’t? Love the post OP and seeing similar things I have wondered often about this when I’ve seen it and wondered how people it’s directed must feel and how I feel about it when reading. As it isn’t directed or something that impacts me I’ve had to ask myself if the reason I find it uncomfortable to read is a flaw in me rather than anything else as I’m light skinned. When reading a lot of it does come across as fetishism and not something personally I’d find very pleasant if directed at me as I think it would make me feel like they don’t see or value me as a person but a itch to a kink. We’re all the same regardless of skin tone so it really shouldn’t matter in relation to other preferences. That said though I also have to ask myself if I’m a hypocrite as I find dark skinned woman very attractive as well as light skinned woman and though part of it is the same in both instances, their style and look naturally plays a part of it. The only difference I guess would be it’s based solely on attraction to them rather than a demographic based on a certain kink. Definitely don’t think I would show interest in a woman solely based on one criteria and would never mention their skin tone as being part of my attraction to them even if true as I think as well intended and sincere as it might be that one of the many things you find physically as well as them as a person attractive, it just sounds cringe and off in my head. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong and reading to much into things but that’s just what I came with from imagining how it might make them feel as well how I feel about it x" Thanks for your candour in responding. Self reflection and all that… obviously attraction is one thing but when it’s reduced to the way one’s skin compliments the other’s or vice versa it becomes a bit o .
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" Yet on the other hand, I counter that with - looking for huge boobs, is again another fetish display but is deemed acceptable by society. So what is the difference? Both ideals are reducing someone to just a body part wanted. " The difference is the stereotypes in which they're rooted. The fetishisation of black skin is heavily rooted in racism. The fetishisation of huge boobs is probably rooted in porn, bimboism, and ultimately misogyny - although I've never really looked into it so it's just a guess. I personally dislike any fetishism that objectifies someone based on a feature of their body that they were born with, but it's particularly distasteful to me when it's a white person objectifying a black person, since we have a collective colonial legacy that has historically reduced black people to nothing more than the usefulness of their body to white people. | |||
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"At times, the numerous BBC posts have a slew of people mentioning the contrast of dark versus light skin is a point of attraction. As a non-white person, when I read this I ask myself what I’d think about someone saying to me, ‘I love the way your dark skin looks against my white skin’ or something similar. This made me think about fetishising. I’m curious if others see this as fetishism and would steer clear of making such comments or see this as a harmless comment, or perhaps a compliment and wouldn’t think anything negative in saying it. How would you see this? Do you rationalise to his being a compliment in some way? If so, what’s your view? Does this make you cringe to the point you’d never say such thing? Is it fetishism? Do you not see this as fetishising someone’s skin colour if you’re white and the person you’d potentially say this to isn’t? We are sexual creatures and we will fetishise anything. The trick when it comes to fetish is finding two people who are into the same thing. If one finds the thought of their skin colour being fetishised sexually arousing then both partners are likely to enjoy it. If you fell uncomfortable with it, then it is not going to add to the experience and may be a turnoff. However, there is a twist... sometimes we are faced with the realisation that we begin to enjoy something we used to reject. I wonder if that is why you are asking your questions? Have you caught yourself enjoying thinking of someone being aroused by your skin colour? I went through a similar transformation, I used to be not interested in pegging, but a good friend kept patuently pushing boundaries to the point where I bought her a strapon. We all evolve and that's alright." No, I’ve never caught myself or would evolve to ever catch myself aroused by skin colour. What arouses me is clear in my mind at age 40. Of course I’ve had changes throughout the twenty years I’ve been sexually active and evolved from things I thought I’d never like to growing my repertoire of likes and dislikes but they aren’t based on individuals’ characteristics. I find it odd, it must be said, to read similarities between pegging and contrasts of skin colours as comparable ‘evolving likes’. One is a sexual act whilst the other is an entire person. | |||
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"This question regarding skin colour gets asked in one form or another quite regularly. When I saw it first I was a little shocked that a preference I have might by too much of a deviance to be accepted on here. My liking of black guys has had me called shallow, ignorant and on occasion that I might be a racist. Just because I like black guys, not dislike or hate but like black guys. I thought this was just a preference but oh no its a fetishism and it's wrong, hence all the threads about it. So I must be wrong. This is voiced on a site, which objectifies the kind of sexual relationships most of society frowns upon. I thought this would be a safe place to have certain preferences without having to justify them. So after awhile I saw more and more contributers who deplored my preference, saying they would never do such a thing. The same people shout out about their feelings around being woke, telling everyone we should be tolerant of everyone's choices, everyone's gender, everyone's sexual orientation, sapiosexual, pansexual and all of the hundreds in-between. These posters talk about supporting all the minority groups. These people will support the issues around BLM but heaven forbid fancy any black guys and you're committing a mortal sin if you fuck a black guy. So all this tolerance that spouting goes so far and only one way apparently.Anyone who says others shouldn't use certain labels such as BBC, Milf, Gilf, Dilf but then put a Rainbow at the end of their posts to show others they are accepting of all the labels that Co.es with the Woke movement are hypocrites. The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. We live in a society we're mixed race relationships are seen as positive, yet mixed race hook ups is wrong, it's unbelievable. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x" I’m not sure how to respond to this. I read your response twice. I think you somehow missed my point or went on about something parallel to what I was attempting to discuss. Which isn’t a bad thing, as conversations can and do this often, but the point I was making wasn’t geared to people who find black people attractive as a whole. I don’t consider that fetishising. I also didn’t make a blanket statement that all who compare skin tones are fetishising others. I’m trying to understand those who do compare the differences in skin tones in sexual context. I’m happy to read you like a diversity of men across a wide array of them. You come off as angered by this post and I’m struggling to understand what that anger is rooted in. Anyway, happy fabbing x | |||
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"This question regarding skin colour gets asked in one form or another quite regularly. When I saw it first I was a little shocked that a preference I have might by too much of a deviance to be accepted on here. My liking of black guys has had me called shallow, ignorant and on occasion that I might be a racist. Just because I like black guys, not dislike or hate but like black guys. I thought this was just a preference but oh no its a fetishism and it's wrong, hence all the threads about it. So I must be wrong. This is voiced on a site, which objectifies the kind of sexual relationships most of society frowns upon. I thought this would be a safe place to have certain preferences without having to justify them. So after awhile I saw more and more contributers who deplored my preference, saying they would never do such a thing. The same people shout out about their feelings around being woke, telling everyone we should be tolerant of everyone's choices, everyone's gender, everyone's sexual orientation, sapiosexual, pansexual and all of the hundreds in-between. These posters talk about supporting all the minority groups. These people will support the issues around BLM but heaven forbid fancy any black guys and you're committing a mortal sin if you fuck a black guy. So all this tolerance that spouting goes so far and only one way apparently.Anyone who says others shouldn't use certain labels such as BBC, Milf, Gilf, Dilf but then put a Rainbow at the end of their posts to show others they are accepting of all the labels that Co.es with the Woke movement are hypocrites. The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. We live in a society we're mixed race relationships are seen as positive, yet mixed race hook ups is wrong, it's unbelievable. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x I’m not sure how to respond to this. I read your response twice. I think you somehow missed my point or went on about something parallel to what I was attempting to discuss. Which isn’t a bad thing, as conversations can and do this often, but the point I was making wasn’t geared to people who find black people attractive as a whole. I don’t consider that fetishising. I also didn’t make a blanket statement that all who compare skin tones are fetishising others. I’m trying to understand those who do compare the differences in skin tones in sexual context. I’m happy to read you like a diversity of men across a wide array of them. You come off as angered by this post and I’m struggling to understand what that anger is rooted in. Anyway, happy fabbing x" I'm not angered by your post at all. I just don't believe there are many people who find the colour of skin the only factor for attraction. If it is then I think it would be a very small minority. If it is true then so must the opposite, but fetishism towards white skin by poc is never discussed. I don't think it should either because again I don't think that's an issue and it would only concern a tiny minority. I think liking people of different races is no different from liking people who are taller, older, younger, hairy, bald big busted, its a preference. However as soon as someone mentions attraction to a different race then it may be racist. They point to a collective colonially past and historical racism as a factor in using terms like BBC. It's assumptions like this, because I'm white, that tiresome. They say this without knowing me or my heritage, just based on my skin tone. I'm from Irish stock and I must have missed the bit about the great Irish Empire, although my grandad did say how his forefathers suffered at the hands of the English. As for historic racism I was not involved with it at all. I don't know anyone involved in any historical racism. And as for not knowing much about, or being involved in, racism, doesn't it involve discrimination, oppression, inequality and things like that? If that's the case how is anyone oppressing another of another race by desiring them, obviously if they find attractive. Then there's the issue of how dark is too dark? Given my heritage most people are darker than me. Would liking Mediterranean guys be OK, Arab guys, Indian guys? At what hue does it become racist to desire them? Mrs x | |||
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" If it is true then so must the opposite, but fetishism towards white skin by poc is never discussed. I don't think it should either because again I don't think that's an issue and it would only concern a tiny minority. Mrs x" This is very much discussed. There are many books about colourism and the view of lighter skin tones being optimal/better for the blood line, etc. as well as the fetishisation of this throughout many non white dominant societies (I specifically know about this being rife in mixed race dominant societies through Latin America.). It’s certainly not a tiny minority, and expands outside of Latin America throughout Asian and Arab societies as well. I raise an eyebrow equally at these views. I think they are less discussed in predominantly white societies. I don’t personally have any problem with those who like whomever they like in whole — as people. I’ve cringed at the mention of a group of people by a term which deduces them to an appendage. When I first learned English and came across BBC, I struggled to understand the need for it as such a widely used term. Similarly the same with some other terms such as BBW. I don’t know if I’d cringe the same way at someone personally telling me they liked the contrast of their skin against mine because there are many variables at play. To better understand my own views, I’m attempting to understand the potential rationale behind someone expressing such a statement in sexual context. By essence questioning my own thoughts by making sense of the world around me. | |||
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" From my own perspective, I find it disturbing, as a non-tattooed person to be fetishised by certain groups for that reason instead of for my overall desirability. Do they do it just because of the contrast between their inked bodies and my plain ( but relatively brown) one during sex? How shallow! " The difference is that non-tattooed people have never been systemically oppressed because they don't have tattoos. | |||
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" Then there's the issue of how dark is too dark? Given my heritage most people are darker than me. Would liking Mediterranean guys be OK, Arab guys, Indian guys? At what hue does it become racist to desire them? There's nothing wrong with *fancying* someone of any race or nationality. There's everything wrong with invoking colonial or racist stereotypes when talking about people, or fetishising someone based purely on features such as skin colour or nationality." This is about fetishism of skin colour, not about colonialism or stereotyping. I don't even think it exists in any great amount on here without being combined with attraction for the other person. What about profiles that exclude other races? Do they therefore just fetishism about others of their own skin colour? It's just a preference, one of many i suspect. On your own profile you state you are a hirsute woman, are you catering for guys who have that particular fetish? Nothing wrong in that, it's just a preference not some depraved desire to return to our primordial past. Mrs x | |||
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"I don't think anyone would say 'I love your white/black skin next to mine' on a meet. They might say 'I love your white/black skin, tits, cock, pussy' While the latter might raise an eyebrow people do understand visual appeal. Adding 'next to mine' and 'contrast in skin' is the odd bit. There's nothing outwardly offensive or objectionable in remarking on something but there is when making comparison (next to mine/in contrast), though people either engage with it or are put off and steer away. It does sound cringey though, but I understand it from a visual aspect and suspect it's not a one way street. " People have literally typed, on Fab, in those types of posts the words I love the contrast of their black skin next to my white skin, hence my question. | |||
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" On your own profile you state you are a hirsute woman, are you catering for guys who have that particular fetish? Nothing wrong in that, it's just a preference not some depraved desire to return to our primordial past. Actually - I don't state I'm a 'hirsute' woman, I state that I'm unlikely to cater for people's preferences. Anyway, that out the way. Having a fetish for hairy women, is not the same as having a fetish for black women. Hairy women have never been systemically oppressed or discriminated against in our society based on the presence or lack of of their leg hair. Black people, however, have been systemically oppressed and discriminated against based on the colour of their skin, and much of the fetishism of black bodies (male AND female) is based on colonial and racist legacy." I'm not saying it's wrong but it was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Nobody on Fab had anything to do with that oppression. My people, the Irish had nothing to do with colonialism. Racist oppression has affected most races and has been committed by most races. You only have to select your preferred time frame in history to support your narrative. You are choosing to do that now whilst ignoring other acts of systemic racism and colonialism. It's a weak argument. Mrs x | |||
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" I'm not saying it's wrong but it was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Nobody on Fab had anything to do with that oppression. You do understand that racial oppression and discrimination is something that is happening literally today?So why not mention racism and oppression committed by people's of a different colour other than whites because that does not suit your narrative, does it? Mrs x Because when white dominance exists in systemic racism and oppressions you can’t write history any other way as even you pointed out. " Your correct but that doesn't mean other races have not done the same. This is a sex site, not an oppressive regime design to oppress anyone. Your post is not about this it's about human nature. About desire and why people feel the way they do. You can say on here you desire older, younger, larger, petite, tall, short, man, woman, trans whatever. Everyone seems to accept that they are just preferences but as soon as you mention colour, if you are white, then their are some on here that say it must be rooted in some racist agenda. Yet these same people would not have a problem, I believe with interracial marriage. Blended communities are seen as diverse, enriching, adding value to peoples lives, and I believe that's an absolute truth. I find it very odd that by stating a preference, even in a term such as BBC is not racist. Tell the hundreds of guys that have used this term messaging me that it's racist, ask them if they feel oppressed. It's like others feel outraged on their behalf. Nobody on here, I believe, if I'm wrong tell me your preference, would meet anyone for just one characteristic. Not one person. There has to be a 'pleasing' combination to achieve attraction. Are those asking for, or excluding others, of the same colour being racist? Are those of a darker hue looking for others with pale skin being racist? I don't believe so, It's just a preference. Mrs | |||
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"I don't think anyone would say 'I love your white/black skin next to mine' on a meet. They might say 'I love your white/black skin, tits, cock, pussy' While the latter might raise an eyebrow people do understand visual appeal. Adding 'next to mine' and 'contrast in skin' is the odd bit. There's nothing outwardly offensive or objectionable in remarking on something but there is when making comparison (next to mine/in contrast), though people either engage with it or are put off and steer away. It does sound cringey though, but I understand it from a visual aspect and suspect it's not a one way street. People have literally typed, on Fab, in those types of posts the words I love the contrast of their black skin next to my white skin, hence my question. " I've seen it on profiles, as said I find it cringey too. Though, I doubt they would say it to their face but: they are obviously getting meets so people are engaging. People engage either as they are of a similar mindset, because they find it inoffensive or because they 'don't realise'. The don't realise camp I'd say were few and far between given todays awareness. Again - I doubt it's solely a white on black issue as there are no doubt black who seek white for 'notches' but are just not as open about their reasons. To think otherwise is a bit blinkered. I don't see the reason for it though, to state. | |||
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" .I'm not saying it's wrong but it was hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Nobody on Fab had anything to do with that oppression. My people, the Irish had nothing to do with colonialism. Racist oppression has affected most races and has been committed by most races. You only have to select your preferred time frame in history to support your narrative. You are choosing to do that now whilst ignoring other acts of systemic racism and colonialism. It's a weak argument. Mrs x She's not ignoring anything and yours is the weak argument. I can't believe you're making it!I can't believe that by desiring someone is rooted in my need to discriminate and oppress them Mrs Doesn't make it untrue just because you're struggling to believe So are you saying I'm oppressing and discriminating against black guys? Mrs x" Oh come on. Like it’s ironic that you’re seen above talking about woke people this and that but you’re here refusing to accept the role that racism has in shaping of stereotypes, myths, language and ultimately desirability. It’s sad tbh, that you like Black guys so much apparently yet here you are, fighting so hard against understanding our experience. Even dismissing it as of the past and something that happened to everyone. It’s a lack of understanding of antiblackness and how it works. Like I said, none of this is going to change your opinion so why not just stop arguing or debating? You have shown in this thread, and others, an unwillingness to be wrong. So you’re not. You win. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. " Who exactly are you directing this to? As for women who are posting about this being a white woman only issue, I am amongst the minuscule non white amongst the women commenting and I’d love for you to point me to where you’d read this is white women thing. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. " So only people who enjoy it are allowed an opinion? People who don't are annoying if they use a public forum to try to work through their thoughts? | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Your post is cringy." Will a  make it better | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. " Aw I'm really sorry you're annoyed by people having an opinion. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. So only people who enjoy it are allowed an opinion? People who don't are annoying if they use a public forum to try to work through their thoughts?" People are annoying of course they are. Whether I say they annoy me is a different matter - I rarely do. People who enjoy it? I'm not sure if people enjoy it, more probably participate in it unknowingly - otherwise it'd be a fetish, then the OP would be fet shaming, and we all know we can't fet shame. I don't see it as a fetish, (though in some race play it is), more just a cringey term. | |||
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"It's not a fetish for me. It doesn't consume me, and I don't think about it until I'm naked with a man and the skin colour contrast is apparent. It's usually the man who says something about how they love my pale skin against theirs. I'm not attracted to a man because of his skin colour, but it's part of who he is, and I'm attracted to all of him. " I usually think, blimey my legs need to see the sun now and then. A black man once said that I have Spanish arms and an Irish bum. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Aw I'm really sorry you're annoyed by people having an opinion. " There's difference in opinion and posting a comment for sake of | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Aw I'm really sorry you're annoyed by people having an opinion. There's difference in opinion and posting a comment for sake of" And you're the arbiter of that on someone else's thread. Uh huh. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Aw I'm really sorry you're annoyed by people having an opinion. There's difference in opinion and posting a comment for sake of And you're the arbiter of that on someone else's thread. Uh huh. " There needs to be some perspective, it seemed to get lost here. If I were to read into something you'd written and make a leap to imply you're a racist on the back of it, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like it. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Who exactly are you directing this to? As for women who are posting about this being a white woman only issue, I am amongst the minuscule non white amongst the women commenting and I’d love for you to point me to where you’d read this is white women thing. " I said it before... '...The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. We live in a society we're mixed race relationships are seen as positive, yet mixed race hook ups is wrong, it's unbelievable. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x' It's the assumption that my preference must be rooted in colonialism or racist beliefs that the issue for me, when none of you know my background. I did ask if it were the other way round, asking black guys why they liked white woman, would their preferences be racist, but nobody answered that. It's just me and not the black guys that seek me out, a blonde, white woman, who thanks to her Irish heritage, couldn't get any whiter, that's racist.... seems fair to assume that. All because I use the term BBC on my profile. An acronym was introduced by black guys and one that is sent to me in dozens of messages a day. Maybe you should harangue those guys for its use, but don't think that's going to happen. Would appreciate an answer to my question, so i might learn were I'm going wrong g, Mrs x | |||
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x" Where’s the wood? There’s too many trees. | |||
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" 'Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman.' Is that better, Mrs x" Internalized racism and/or anti-blackness is something that exists, just like internalized misogyny is something that exists. Some black men who are using the term BBC do have internalized anti-blackness and that is something that will hopefully change in the future. Some black guys will also want to meet whites women to “get back” at historical oppressors. I’ve seen it at fetish clubs and I’ve had black men trying it on in that way both here and elsewhere. They are usually quite explicit about it being race play and/or humiliation kink. And some men just fancy women, and some of those women are white. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. " Honestly it’s amazing how much you’ve missed so many of the points being made and you’ve ranted about something that just isn’t happening. Anyway I addressed this above. | |||
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x Are you not bored of deliberately misinterpreting? Why are you pressed? Like why are YOU taking it so personally if you don’t fetishise? Stop trying to make this thread about YOU and YOUR feelings. It’s not. " When you make a habit of attacking me it is personal. You are bullying me because of your racial beliefs it would seem. You won't answer my questions because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative. So go on, are black guys racial motivated negatively to meet up with white woman Or is it exclusively the other way round? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your answer. Mrs x | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Honestly it’s amazing how much you’ve missed so many of the points being made and you’ve ranted about something that just isn’t happening. Anyway I addressed this above. "It is happening, you are a bully. Nothing more nothing less. You know I said I'm aware and sympathise about issues of racism. I posted my sympathies about the terrible lack of adequate care given to black woman during childbirthand howthatsan example of racism. But you fail to mention that, it doesn't suit your narrative, you want people to think I'm racially motivated. You are just a sad bully,picking onsomeone for having a preference you don't agree with. Mrs x | |||
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x Are you not bored of deliberately misinterpreting? Why are you pressed? Like why are YOU taking it so personally if you don’t fetishise? Stop trying to make this thread about YOU and YOUR feelings. It’s not. When you make a habit of attacking me it is personal. You are bullying me because of your racial beliefs it would seem. You won't answer my questions because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative. So go on, are black guys racial motivated negatively to meet up with white woman Or is it exclusively the other way round? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your answer. Mrs x " Nah guys, deep this… | |||
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"This question regarding skin colour gets asked in one form or another quite regularly. Just because I like black guys, not dislike or hate but like black guys. I thought this was just a preference but oh no its a fetishism and it's wrong, hence all the threads about it. So I must be wrong. So all this tolerance that spouting goes so far and only one way apparently.Anyone who says others shouldn't use certain labels such as BBC, Milf, Gilf, Dilf but then put a Rainbow at the end of their posts to show others they are accepting of all the labels that Co.es with the Woke movement are hypocrites. The vast majority of these threads only go way way. The white women to black guy way. Why don't black guys get accused of fetishism over white skin? What about those guys that call themselves BBC, why don't they get castigated? The truth is they shouldn't, nobody should. Just so you know I do like black guys but that's not the only factor in considering a potential playmate. I must find the guy attractive, not just pretty or handsome. There must be that sexual attraction. Much the same as everybody on here. Live and let live guys, love you all, Mrs x I read your entire post but have cut bits out to shorten the space my reply takes up on the thread. I think your post reads as angry or frustrated about your experience. I think people that fetishise Black people are not the same as people that also find Black people attractive. That’s a key difference. I think considering and accepting that many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us, can be hard but it doesn’t have to feel like a personal attack. I think for people that like Black people and one of the reasons is *because* they are Black, it can be difficult to reflect on that. It can be uncomfortable. But if you’re unwilling to, then don’t. And don’t complain when people talk about their experiences and understanding on it. It’s woke. Yes. It’s understanding race and how it has shaped our desires. And what? Tbh, Black people that use the BBC term or fetishise White people are not not really different though I think the fetishising itself doesn’t come from historically power imbalances and doesn’t come from ideas used to oppress white people. On a surface level, Fetishisation may not seem racist but the historical factors are what make it so. Anyway that Black people use a term to try and enable them to be more desirable is for a different thread. But the fetishising of white people, I think, also comes from historic and even modern ideas of beauty and desirability. Many of these people (not all) don’t find Black or Brown women attractive or desirable. That plays into historical ideas around beauty and desirability. But again maybe it’s best to ask them why they feel the way they do. Anyway, yeah. It is what it is. It might feel like it sucks for you that people express opinions on fetishisation but it doesn’t sound like it’s going to change your position. So just ignore it?" Oh hello. It’s one of my responses | |||
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"And, Bella, thanks for being unafraid to talk about this. Pondering it is one thing but bringing it up in here and seeing it brought up makes me feel like I’m not going mad for pondering similar things. I don't think anyone is wrong for pondering about the issue. I just don't understand the negativity surrounding stating such a preference.
I believed that stating any preference comes with the implication that as well as satisfying a certain preference I must find you attractive, sexually attractive at that.
I also have a preference for younger guys but would not fuck a guy just because he's younger, although lots of the younger guys who message think that entitles them to a meet.
As for black guys, it's not just skin tone, it's a whole package. Facial features, hair and attitude, lots of things. I also have a weakness for full lips and a nice mouth.
It's just like guys liking brunettes with big bits, girls fancying guys with tattoo, beards and top knots.
And I do like all sorts of other guys too but I must find them sexually attractive, I just thought that would be obvious without having to state it.
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It sounds like you just find all people attractive? People aren’t mad that people find Black people attractive. They’re mad at the fetishisation of Black people. Which is entirely different. If someone likes people of all races or lots of different skin tones attractive, obviously they’re going to find Black people attractive too but it’s not based on their race or racist stereotypes.
You like full lips- so you’d like full lips on any race of man.
You like hung men- so you’d like hung men of any race.
You like younger guys- so you’d like younger guys of any race.
Yes obviously you have to find them attractive. But their race isn’t a required quality? So it’s not fetishisation? So don’t internalise these discussions as about you. They’re not.
People taking issue with language like BBC etc which you may use idk, is separate. That is a term rooted in racist stereotypes. Reflections on using it, again, shouldn’t have to feel like a personal attack. "AGAIN. It is me saying that you clearly aren’t a fetishiser hence my confusion at constantly bringing it back to yourself | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Honestly it’s amazing how much you’ve missed so many of the points being made and you’ve ranted about something that just isn’t happening. Anyway I addressed this above. It is happening, you are a bully. Nothing more nothing less. You know I said I'm aware and sympathise about issues of racism.
I posted my sympathies about the terrible lack of adequate care given to black woman during childbirthand howthatsan example of racism.
But you fail to mention that, it doesn't suit your narrative, you want people to think I'm racially motivated.
You are just a sad bully,picking onsomeone for having a preference you don't agree with.
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"And, Bella, thanks for being unafraid to talk about this. Pondering it is one thing but bringing it up in here and seeing it brought up makes me feel like I’m not going mad for pondering similar things. I don't think anyone is wrong for pondering about the issue. I just don't understand the negativity surrounding stating such a preference.
I believed that stating any preference comes with the implication that as well as satisfying a certain preference I must find you attractive, sexually attractive at that.
I also have a preference for younger guys but would not fuck a guy just because he's younger, although lots of the younger guys who message think that entitles them to a meet.
As for black guys, it's not just skin tone, it's a whole package. Facial features, hair and attitude, lots of things. I also have a weakness for full lips and a nice mouth.
It's just like guys liking brunettes with big bits, girls fancying guys with tattoo, beards and top knots.
And I do like all sorts of other guys too but I must find them sexually attractive, I just thought that would be obvious without having to state it.
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It sounds like you just find all people attractive? People aren’t mad that people find Black people attractive. They’re mad at the fetishisation of Black people. Which is entirely different. If someone likes people of all races or lots of different skin tones attractive, obviously they’re going to find Black people attractive too but it’s not based on their race or racist stereotypes.
You like full lips- so you’d like full lips on any race of man.
You like hung men- so you’d like hung men of any race.
You like younger guys- so you’d like younger guys of any race.
Yes obviously you have to find them attractive. But their race isn’t a required quality? So it’s not fetishisation? So don’t internalise these discussions as about you. They’re not.
People taking issue with language like BBC etc which you may use idk, is separate. That is a term rooted in racist stereotypes. Reflections on using it, again, shouldn’t have to feel like a personal attack.
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x Are you not bored of deliberately misinterpreting? Why are you pressed? Like why are YOU taking it so personally if you don’t fetishise? Stop trying to make this thread about YOU and YOUR feelings. It’s not. When you make a habit of attacking me it is personal. You are bullying me because of your racial beliefs it would seem. You won't answer my questions because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative. So go on, are black guys racial motivated negatively to meet up with white woman Or is it exclusively the other way round? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your answer. Mrs x Nah guys, deep this…Knew you wouldn't answer it. I think that there is some racismgoing on but it's not from me, I'm just guilty of fancying, certain black guys. You want to bully me little more now, it is your modus operandi. Mrs x" The implication here is hilarious. Say it with your chest. | |||
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" 'Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman.' Is that better, Mrs x Internalized racism and/or anti-blackness is something that exists, just like internalized misogyny is something that exists. Some black men who are using the term BBC do have internalized anti-blackness and that is something that will hopefully change in the future. Some black guys will also want to meet whites women to “get back” at historical oppressors. I’ve seen it at fetish clubs and I’ve had black men trying it on in that way both here and elsewhere. They are usually quite explicit about it being race play and/or humiliation kink. And some men just fancy women, and some of those women are white. So I cannot just fancy black guys before you insinuate I'm only doing some because I'm a racist and a colonialist. If you acknowledge that black guys just fancy white woman sometimes, why can't you acknowledge white woman can just, sometimes, fancy black guys? Or are you intolerant towards woman having the same choices as men, regardless of colour? Mrs x" If you could care to actually read what I wrote rather than what you think I wrote, you would NEVER find that I say all white women who fancy black men are racist. If I have written this then let me know where and I’ll ask admin to remove it. | |||
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"This threads starting to annoy me. People are treating it as discrimination when it's not. A poster is offended that's it. There are willing participants on both sides or there wouldn't be a issue. To take it that only whites do it is what is grinding my gears most. There is no doubt in my mind black men fuck white women solely based on skin colour yet the thread is made as if it's a white woman issue, doing it as they have some kind of colonial repression. They aren't stealing your men, chaining them up, dragging them to pussy or splashing some white woman unicorn gush you haven't got. It's a phrase you don't like, fine. It's cringey, fine, but nobody is being outwardly racist or pushing oppression. Honestly it’s amazing how much you’ve missed so many of the points being made and you’ve ranted about something that just isn’t happening. Anyway I addressed this above. It is happening, you are a bully. Nothing more nothing less. You know I said I'm aware and sympathise about issues of racism.
I posted my sympathies about the terrible lack of adequate care given to black woman during childbirthand howthatsan example of racism.
But you fail to mention that, it doesn't suit your narrative, you want people to think I'm racially motivated.
You are just a sad bully,picking onsomeone for having a preference you don't agree with.
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You are utterly denying what black people on this thread are saying is truth and reality for them. Pickle is pushing back. That's not bullying. "And he not understanding me. Its about ALL woman, having choices without fear of any judgement. Not just me, all woman. That's what I'm saying. So if its OK for the guys to choose for whatever reason it's okay for the girls. Yet he keeps mentioning oppression, discrimination, etc. That's not pushing back that's accusatory. Woman have had to battle for our own choices and a man comes along and says we can't because of his percieved bias. Tell me again how it's OK for a man to tell a woman what to think... Sisterhood not strong in here... Mrs x | |||
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x Are you not bored of deliberately misinterpreting? Why are you pressed? Like why are YOU taking it so personally if you don’t fetishise? Stop trying to make this thread about YOU and YOUR feelings. It’s not. When you make a habit of attacking me it is personal. You are bullying me because of your racial beliefs it would seem. You won't answer my questions because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative. So go on, are black guys racial motivated negatively to meet up with white woman Or is it exclusively the other way round? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your answer. Mrs x Nah guys, deep this…Knew you wouldn't answer it. I think that there is some racismgoing on but it's not from me, I'm just guilty of fancying, certain black guys. You want to bully me little more now, it is your modus operandi. Mrs x The implication here is hilarious. Say it with your chest. It's not, you deliberately mocked me on another thread when you could have ignored me. You are a bully who tries to trigger others. Crack on Mrs x" I put violins because of your post that was implying that people don’t like you liking/ appreciating Black men. Not bullying. | |||
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Makes you wonder "Here's a quote from your post on here... '...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...' So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism... Mrs c | |||
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"Nobody? Anybody?... Are black guys motivated by racism, getting back for their oppression suffered, when asking to meet me, a white woman. Or are white woman only capable of making choices based on racial roots when looking for black guys. Or third option, is it just down to attraction and just that drives such preferences on both sides. I hope its number three, I need a bit ofa boost after today haha, Mrs x Are you not bored of deliberately misinterpreting? Why are you pressed? Like why are YOU taking it so personally if you don’t fetishise? Stop trying to make this thread about YOU and YOUR feelings. It’s not. When you make a habit of attacking me it is personal. You are bullying me because of your racial beliefs it would seem. You won't answer my questions because it doesn't suit YOUR narrative. So go on, are black guys racial motivated negatively to meet up with white woman Or is it exclusively the other way round? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your answer. Mrs x Nah guys, deep this…Knew you wouldn't answer it. I think that there is some racismgoing on but it's not from me, I'm just guilty of fancying, certain black guys. You want to bully me little more now, it is your modus operandi. Mrs x The implication here is hilarious. Say it with your chest. It's not, you deliberately mocked me on another thread when you could have ignored me. You are a bully who tries to trigger others. Crack on Mrs x I put violins because of your post that was implying that people don’t like you liking/ appreciating Black men. Not bullying. You could have ignored it but chose not too. Mrs x" It wasn’t that deep. You even responded jokingly. BUT sorry if I upset you with that comment. And sorry if I’ve upset you on this thread with my comments. | |||
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"I have even EXPLICITLY said that I’m referring to fetishisation. I’ve talked about the historical racism it stems from. I’ve actually not said that men can do this and women can’t do that. I’ve talked about Black men that use fetishising terms like BBC. I’ve talked about the difference between fetishising White people vs Black people- described it as bad but highlighted the difference in terms of the racism of fetishising Black people. Like am I actually going mad?" It's not you. | |||
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Makes you wonder
You are the worst.
THE WORST. second time ‘you’re the real racist’ has come up in the space of a week.
Maybe I am. "I want to fuck black guys not fight them... Mrs x | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c"No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t. Also many other people’s aren’t. Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved | |||
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"I have even EXPLICITLY said that I’m referring to fetishisation. I’ve talked about the historical racism it stems from. I’ve actually not said that men can do this and women can’t do that. I’ve talked about Black men that use fetishising terms like BBC. I’ve talked about the difference between fetishising White people vs Black people- described it as bad but highlighted the difference in terms of the racism of fetishising Black people. Like am I actually going mad? It's not you." If I say what I think is happening here there will be tears. | |||
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" Its about ALL woman, having choices without fear of any judgement. Not just me, all woman. That's what I'm saying. So if its OK for the guys to choose for whatever reason it's okay for the girls. Yet he keeps mentioning oppression, discrimination, etc. That's not pushing back that's accusatory. Woman have had to battle for our own choices and a man comes along and says we can't because of his percieved bias. Tell me again how it's OK for a man to tell a woman what to think... Sisterhood not strong in here... Mrs x Not one person has said that women shouldn’t fancy certain people." I never said anyone did, I said woman should be free to fancy anyone free from any repercussions, Mrs x | |||
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"I have even EXPLICITLY said that I’m referring to fetishisation. I’ve talked about the historical racism it stems from. I’ve actually not said that men can do this and women can’t do that. I’ve talked about Black men that use fetishising terms like BBC. I’ve talked about the difference between fetishising White people vs Black people- described it as bad but highlighted the difference in terms of the racism of fetishising Black people. Like am I actually going mad? It's not you. If I say what I think is happening here there will be tears. " There are appropriate venues for certain discussions and... less so. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved "Ergo a white woman is probably motivated by racism, not attraction, but racism? That's pretty fucked up to call out anyone's decisions without knowing what their true motivations. So mind reading is it now, Mrs x | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved "You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved Ergo a white woman is probably motivated by racism, not attraction, but racism?
That's pretty fucked up to call out anyone's decisions without knowing what their true motivations. So mind reading is it now,
Mrs x"Why are you talking about WOMEN? When I’m talking about PEOPLE? And something being rooted in racism doesn’t mean that they’re cxnscixusly being motivated racist thoughts. If someone’s desires are based on racist stereotypes and myths- that I’ve seen expressed on here and been expressed to me before, that’s what they are. Sorry to tell you that. I do have an ology degree but I’m no mind reader unfortunately. Wrong ology. | |||
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"Deep it. Of everyone that’s called this person out, I’m getting labelled a bully because I apparently am allowing men to do things that I’m not allowing women to do regarding fetishisation. For not highlighting that this person has commented on my thread about Black women dying in childbirth expressing sympathy. And for god knows what else. It has also been implied that I’m a racist.
Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted. "Go on then. Tell me why | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool"I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too. If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved Ergo a white woman is probably motivated by racism, not attraction, but racism?
That's pretty fucked up to call out anyone's decisions without knowing what their true motivations. So mind reading is it now,
Mrs x
Why are you talking about WOMEN? When I’m talking about PEOPLE?
And something being rooted in racism doesn’t mean that they’re cxnscixusly being motivated racist thoughts.
If someone’s desires are based on racist stereotypes and myths- that I’ve seen expressed on here and been expressed to me before, that’s what they are. Sorry to tell you that.
I do have an ology degree but I’m no mind reader unfortunately. Wrong ology. "I'm talking about woman because I am a woman. My posts illicted response from you. You stated that some desire from white woman to black guys is rooted in racism but that mine isn't. That's my point, you don't know, you haven't the foggiest. I could be a card carrying white supremacist, I'm not but you don't know that. What I find offensive is your generalisations towards those other woman,not me, you already cleared my name, those woman you think may be racosts for their choices. Why can't you just avoid generalisations and just post about those people, guys or girls, that you know for a fact are this or that. Be nice, don't make sweeping statements without proof. As I said earlier this should be a safe place. Mrs x | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually. "I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. | |||
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" Why are you talking about WOMEN? When I’m talking about PEOPLE? And something being rooted in racism doesn’t mean that they’re cxnscixusly being motivated racist thoughts. If someone’s desires are based on racist stereotypes and myths- that I’ve seen expressed on here and been expressed to me before, that’s what they are. Sorry to tell you that. I do have an ology degree but I’m no mind reader unfortunately. Wrong ology. I'm talking about woman because I am a woman. My posts illicted response from you. You stated that some desire from white woman to black guys is rooted in racism but that mine isn't. That's my point, you don't know, you haven't the foggiest. I could be a card carrying white supremacist, I'm not but you don't know that. What I find offensive is your generalisations towards those other woman,not me, you already cleared my name, those woman you think may be racosts for their choices. Why can't you just avoid generalisations and just post about those people, guys or girls, that you know for a fact are this or that. Be nice, don't make sweeping statements without proof. As I said earlier this should be a safe place. Mrs x" I’m talking about people that fetishise. I said you don’t seem to fetishise based on what you’ve said. If someone was a fetishiser I’d only make that assumption based on what they say or do. I’m not talking, for the millionth time, about everyone that finds Black people attractive. *Fetishisation* of Black people is rooted in racism. It is based on racist ideas and myths. Sorry but it is. If you want to carry on misunderstanding me and labelling (only) me as a bully and implying I’m a racist, go ahead. But I’m not interacting with you. And I’d like it if you didn’t interact with me. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved Ergo a white woman is probably motivated by racism, not attraction, but racism?
That's pretty fucked up to call out anyone's decisions without knowing what their true motivations. So mind reading is it now,
Mrs x
Why are you talking about WOMEN? When I’m talking about PEOPLE?
And something being rooted in racism doesn’t mean that they’re cxnscixusly being motivated racist thoughts.
If someone’s desires are based on racist stereotypes and myths- that I’ve seen expressed on here and been expressed to me before, that’s what they are. Sorry to tell you that.
I do have an ology degree but I’m no mind reader unfortunately. Wrong ology. I'm talking about woman because I am a woman. My posts illicted response from you.
You stated that some desire from white woman to black guys is rooted in racism but that mine isn't.
That's my point, you don't know, you haven't the foggiest. I could be a card carrying white supremacist, I'm not but you don't know that.
What I find offensive is your generalisations towards those other woman,not me, you already cleared my name, those woman you think may be racosts for their choices.
Why can't you just avoid generalisations and just post about those people, guys or girls, that you know for a fact are this or that.
Be nice, don't make sweeping statements without proof.
As I said earlier this should be a safe place.
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. " so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else. "What myths are you talking about? Mrs x | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else. What myths are you talking about? Mrs x"Google is available. It's even Black history month in the US. There's lots of material out there Surely it'd be a great thing to do to understand potential perspectives of partners? Respectful? | |||
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"Deep it. Of everyone that’s called this person out, I’m getting labelled a bully because I apparently am allowing men to do things that I’m not allowing women to do regarding fetishisation. For not highlighting that this person has commented on my thread about Black women dying in childbirth expressing sympathy. And for god knows what else. It has also been implied that I’m a racist.
Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else. "I didn't say you looked a fool for talking about it, I said you sounded one for what you wrote quoted above. Stand on it or apologise don't cover all bases. | |||
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" I’m talking about people that fetishise. I said you don’t seem to fetishise based on what you’ve said. If someone was a fetishiser I’d only make that assumption based on what they say or do. I’m not talking, for the millionth time, about everyone that finds Black people attractive. *Fetishisation* of Black people is rooted in racism. It is based on racist ideas and myths. Sorry but it is. If you want to carry on misunderstanding me and labelling (only) me as a bully and implying I’m a racist, go ahead. But I’m not interacting with you. And I’d like it if you didn’t interact with me. When you write contrived pieces like this, what are people to think No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t. Also many other people’s aren’t. Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
Many are racist, many aren't racist. I have a point about racism but maybe I don't, but I'll still point out that people are racist and apologise if you misunderstood or "re-explain" that I don't think you are. Poor work that, and I can understand her opinion of you.
"Well thank you for this. I’m glad you can understand her opinion of me?
I personally think it’s quite clear that I feel like some people (fetishisers as I’ve said) desire black people based on racist ideas, myths and stereotypes. Some people (people that don’t fetishise black people) will desire Black people it won’t be based on those things.
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else.
I didn't say you looked a fool for talking about it, I said you sounded one for what you wrote quoted above. Stand on it or apologise don't cover all bases. "Tell us. We want to know. | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else.
I didn't say you looked a fool for talking about it, I said you sounded one for what you wrote quoted above. Stand on it or apologise don't cover all bases. "How do you and the other poster come across in this thread | |||
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Makes you wonder Here's a quote from your post on here...
'...Many of the reasons people find Black people particularly desirable is often rooted in historically racist ideas about us...'
So you do think that desiring Black people is rooted in racism...
Mrs c
No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t.
Also many other people’s aren’t.
Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
You know when you have a thought in your head and you think yea I'll post that, but really it needs deleting. This is one of those posts that you should have deleted.
Go on then. Tell me why
You sound a fool
I mean I’m pretty confident talking on this topic. Read about it. Studied it. Experienced fetishisation myself. Interviewed women that have too.
If I sound like a fool to you then I’m ok with that actually.
I'm MRes so might be not too far out of kilter. If it wasn't for the obvious white bias I'd be getting and right now. Just because you are confident writing about it doesn't make you right about it - you have opinion on it, a fairly jaded one. so obviously your opinions that I’ve read in this thread are based on your reading and experience of race and racism. Seen as I looked a fool talking about what fetishisation of Black people is based on, maybe you could tell us? Not racist, colonial myths and stereotypes. Something else.
I didn't say you looked a fool for talking about it, I said you sounded one for what you wrote quoted above. Stand on it or apologise don't cover all bases.
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" I’m talking about people that fetishise. I said you don’t seem to fetishise based on what you’ve said. If someone was a fetishiser I’d only make that assumption based on what they say or do. I’m not talking, for the millionth time, about everyone that finds Black people attractive. *Fetishisation* of Black people is rooted in racism. It is based on racist ideas and myths. Sorry but it is. If you want to carry on misunderstanding me and labelling (only) me as a bully and implying I’m a racist, go ahead. But I’m not interacting with you. And I’d like it if you didn’t interact with me. When you write contrived pieces like this, what are people to think No I think many people’s reasons for desiring Black people is rooted in racism. SORRY that it isn’t made clear by my post on this topic. And btw, I stand on that. Many people’s reasons are. Not everyone’s. And as I went on to say yours aren’t. Also many other people’s aren’t. Don’t know why you’re going so hard for me here but I’m unmoved
Many are racist, many aren't racist. I have a point about racism but maybe I don't, but I'll still point out that people are racist and apologise if you misunderstood or "re-explain" that I don't think you are. Poor work that, and I can understand her opinion of you.
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