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"Yeah the women’s Euros is probably the only time I’ve really watched it. Was more enjoyable than suffering watching Everton every week. " Other flavours of football club are available! Come and watch the Superwhite Army across the river instead  | |||
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"Yeah the women’s Euros is probably the only time I’ve really watched it. Was more enjoyable than suffering watching Everton every week. Other flavours of football club are available! Come and watch the Superwhite Army across the river instead "If we get another points deduction I’ll consider it | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing " Depends what you mean by giant killing | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing " It wouldn’t end well for the women. I read something about a boys under 15s team battering the Women’s US national team who are usually considered the best. | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing " Most would watch it for shirt pulling and boob slippage I bet | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing It wouldn’t end well for the women. I read something about a boys under 15s team battering the Women’s US national team who are usually considered the best. " They could be some trans women players in to even the odds out vs the men | |||
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"Women? Playing football? Well, I’ve heard everything now. You’ll be telling me they’re allowed in pubs next "Yeah, yeah. They even let us vote nowadays. But only with crayons, they don't trust us with pointy pencils. | |||
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"I can't really get excited for it if I'm honest. I feel the same about women's road cycling,but I love watching women's track cycling. I think the possible reason for my lack of interest in women's football is in my humble opinion is it's been kinda forced on everyone rather than evolving by itself. It's kinda," you must watch and like women's football if not you are a misogynist and a chauvinistic pig" I think it's just I don't like being told what I should and shouldn't like based on what's currently trending. I'll probably warm to it once the media finds another bandwagon to jump on and it's just doing its own thing." I find football boring as fuck so when I watched some women’s football it was just as bad for me anyway | |||
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"Women? Playing football? Well, I’ve heard everything now. You’ll be telling me they’re allowed in pubs next
Yeah, yeah. They even let us vote nowadays. But only with crayons, they don't trust us with pointy pencils. "in case the men get what’s coming  | |||
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"Women? Playing football? Well, I’ve heard everything now. You’ll be telling me they’re allowed in pubs next
Yeah, yeah. They even let us vote nowadays. But only with crayons, they don't trust us with pointy pencils. "Tut tut, One wonders what the world is coming to. If you’re all out playing games who’s doing the hoovering?? | |||
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"Must really piss Div1&2 teams off when the don’t get prime time coverage even though the quality is far superior. They must get the telly audiences though or the advertisers wouldn’t bother paying the big bucks. Money rules as always "It does irk me that players from league 1 and 2 can't get a pundit job on the premier league but year players from the women's league can. | |||
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"Women? Playing football? Well, I’ve heard everything now. You’ll be telling me they’re allowed in pubs next
Yeah, yeah. They even let us vote nowadays. But only with crayons, they don't trust us with pointy pencils.
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"It's not really for me to be completely honest. I tried to watch the WSL more regularly after the women's Euros and WC but I just can't get invested in it having watched the skill and speed of the men's game. People have taken it more seriously though which is great to see and hopefully in a few years, we can see it grow with the skill and speed getting even better "You support United and you’re complaining about quality of football? Crazy stuff | |||
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"It's not really for me to be completely honest. I tried to watch the WSL more regularly after the women's Euros and WC but I just can't get invested in it having watched the skill and speed of the men's game. People have taken it more seriously though which is great to see and hopefully in a few years, we can see it grow with the skill and speed getting even better
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"It's not really for me to be completely honest. I tried to watch the WSL more regularly after the women's Euros and WC but I just can't get invested in it having watched the skill and speed of the men's game. People have taken it more seriously though which is great to see and hopefully in a few years, we can see it grow with the skill and speed getting even better
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that. "Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches 
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that.
Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches
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" It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's." This, that it's inspiring young girls to take up the game is tbh far more important than negative comparisons and sarky comments which are usually by men (who probably stopped doing sport if they ever did many years ago) who can't seem to get their head around how society is changing.. | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that.
Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches
*Over to you, Ian*
It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's."Are we women not allowed to say extreme things when the dudes earlier got to compare women's football to toddlers and other such things? Not fair! | |||
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"More and more women are going to women's football, and it's inspiring more and more young girls, so it's only going to get bigger! I absolutely love it, as does my daughter who is football obsessed. For all the grown men comparing it to the men's game... You're missing the point completely. " *Applause* | |||
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" It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's. This, that it's inspiring young girls to take up the game is tbh far more important than negative comparisons and sarky comments which are usually by men (who probably stopped doing sport if they ever did many years ago) who can't seem to get their head around how society is changing.." Completely agree, the women's game has so much going for it at the minute and deserves the chance to grow as much as possible. If people don't like that, then whatever and hopefully the world leaves them behind. | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that.
Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches
*Over to you, Ian*
It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's.
Are we women not allowed to say extreme things when the dudes earlier got to compare women's football to toddlers and other such things?
Not fair! "That's how tit for tat bullshit starts and is quite frankly beneath you. It's shit that some men are clearly out of touch and spout nonsense but I'd rather talk about the potential include everyone rather than divide them. | |||
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"More and more women are going to women's football, and it's inspiring more and more young girls, so it's only going to get bigger! I absolutely love it, as does my daughter who is football obsessed. For all the grown men comparing it to the men's game... You're missing the point completely. " Agreed (him)..
One of our neighbours daughters is a professional player at a local ish club and we found out before Christmas that a friends daughter has signed for a big club in London,our nieces daughter plays too..
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" It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's. This, that it's inspiring young girls to take up the game is tbh far more important than negative comparisons and sarky comments which are usually by men (who probably stopped doing sport if they ever did many years ago) who can't seem to get their head around how society is changing.. Completely agree, the women's game has so much going for it at the minute and deserves the chance to grow as much as possible. If people don't like that, then whatever and hopefully the world leaves them behind." | |||
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"More and more women are going to women's football, and it's inspiring more and more young girls, so it's only going to get bigger! I absolutely love it, as does my daughter who is football obsessed. For all the grown men comparing it to the men's game... You're missing the point completely. Agreed (him)..
One of our neighbours daughters is a professional player at a local ish club and we found out before Christmas that a friends daughter has signed for a big club in London,our nieces daughter plays too..
There's nothing but positives compared to ten years ago.."It's growing at a huge rate! I coach my daughters team, and some of the players we come up against are running riot in the boys leagues too! I find the guys who usually put it down know absolutely nothing about the real positives football brings to a community, and especially young people! | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that.
Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches
*Over to you, Ian*
It's not a competition. Lifting the women's game doesn't have to mean putting down the men's.
Are we women not allowed to say extreme things when the dudes earlier got to compare women's football to toddlers and other such things?
Not fair!
That's how tit for tat bullshit starts and is quite frankly beneath you. It's shit that some men are clearly out of touch and spout nonsense but I'd rather talk about the potential include everyone rather than divide them."Freaking heck, it would be nice for once if other people called out the ridiculous sarky comments from men on the topic, rather than pick me up on what was really intended to be silliness (like my comment on the vote and crayons), but no, I get my arse handed to me? Fuck that. Please call out the original shite comments from the people of the XY persuasion, comments that were in no way productive or useful or anything else. Yours truly, A girl who had to quit the game aged 11, because there were no girls teams and FA rules said I couldn't continue to play with the boys team I was part of. Yes, I hold a fucking grudge because not one man or boy tried to make it better, just dropped you like a steaming pile of crap and that was your Tuesday evenings with one less thing to do. And that was before you were bloody well born, probably! | |||
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"As long as they get finished in time to get home and get the dinner on, I really don’t see the harm in it "I expect big Joe will be along to call this one out too. Please don't disappoint me, Joe. | |||
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"Freaking heck, it would be nice for once if other people called out the ridiculous sarky comments from men on the topic, rather than pick me up on what was really intended to be silliness (like my comment on the vote and crayons), but no, I get my arse handed to me? Fuck that. Please call out the original shite comments from the people of the XY persuasion, comments that were in no way productive or useful or anything else. Yours truly, A girl who had to quit the game aged 11, because there were no girls teams and FA rules said I couldn't continue to play with the boys team I was part of. Yes, I hold a fucking grudge because not one man or boy tried to make it better, just dropped you like a steaming pile of crap and that was your Tuesday evenings with one less thing to do. And that was before you were bloody well born, probably!" Ok, I'm sorry that happened to you and it's a shame that those opportunities weren't there earlier for girls growing up. But also understand the argument you made. It's the same one that people who hate football make. Diving, cheating, overpaid etc. and I don't get how your argument benefits standing up for the sport at all. It's like me trying to defend women's cricket by saying test matches are boring and slow. It doesn't help, whatsoever. The men who made those comments are essentially lost causes. They're not going to listen and they'll always have that viewpoint and like I said above (which I hope you read), the world will leave them behind where they belong. I'm not attacking you, so please don't see it in that way. | |||
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"As long as they get finished in time to get home and get the dinner on, I really don’t see the harm in it
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"More and more women are going to women's football, and it's inspiring more and more young girls, so it's only going to get bigger! I absolutely love it, as does my daughter who is football obsessed. For all the grown men comparing it to the men's game... You're missing the point completely. Agreed (him)..
One of our neighbours daughters is a professional player at a local ish club and we found out before Christmas that a friends daughter has signed for a big club in London,our nieces daughter plays too..
There's nothing but positives compared to ten years ago..
It's growing at a huge rate! I coach my daughters team, and some of the players we come up against are running riot in the boys leagues too!
I find the guys who usually put it down know absolutely nothing about the real positives football brings to a community, and especially young people! "Its new and it's different and for some change is unsettling, in time fingers crossed like many other changes in society it won't be news.. | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment?" Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that. | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment? Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that." You're tired of stereotypes of the men's game??????????????? Good heavens. Try being a female footballer and come back with stereotypes! Try being female and attending football matches, especially in late 90s/early 00s. You should hear what women were referred to like then (and probably now, still. I just don't hear it anymore because I can't easily watch matches in person anymore). | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment? Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that. You're tired of stereotypes of the men's game??????????????? Good heavens. Try being a female footballer and come back with stereotypes! Try being female and attending football matches, especially in late 90s/early 00s. You should hear what women were referred to like then (and probably now, still. I just don't hear it anymore because I can't easily watch matches in person anymore)." So you agree with a comment earlier in the thread about men making comparisons about women's football to men's football who miss the point and then you do exactly the same? Like I said, it's not a competition! | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment? Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that. You're tired of stereotypes of the men's game??????????????? Good heavens. Try being a female footballer and come back with stereotypes! Try being female and attending football matches, especially in late 90s/early 00s. You should hear what women were referred to like then (and probably now, still. I just don't hear it anymore because I can't easily watch matches in person anymore). So you agree with a comment earlier in the thread about men making comparisons about women's football to men's football who miss the point and then you do exactly the same? Like I said, it's not a competition! " I wasn't being serious, FFS. All this "the men making earlier comments are beyond salvation" blah blah. This is exactly the problem! By few people calling such comments out, they remain. They perpetuate. They are copied over and over by subsequent generations. The misogyny continues, unabated. So people DO need to call out the hopeless cases. Please do it because frankly, on this particular topic, I'm heartily sick of doing so and you know I have done, over and over and over and taken all sorts of flak for it. Please channel your energies towards the people subverting the beautiful game. I am not that person and you know it. | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment? Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that. You're tired of stereotypes of the men's game??????????????? Good heavens. Try being a female footballer and come back with stereotypes! Try being female and attending football matches, especially in late 90s/early 00s. You should hear what women were referred to like then (and probably now, still. I just don't hear it anymore because I can't easily watch matches in person anymore). So you agree with a comment earlier in the thread about men making comparisons about women's football to men's football who miss the point and then you do exactly the same? Like I said, it's not a competition! I wasn't being serious, FFS. All this "the men making earlier comments are beyond salvation" blah blah. This is exactly the problem! By few people calling such comments out, they remain. They perpetuate. They are copied over and over by subsequent generations. The misogyny continues, unabated. So people DO need to call out the hopeless cases. Please do it because frankly, on this particular topic, I'm heartily sick of doing so and you know I have done, over and over and over and taken all sorts of flak for it. Please channel your energies towards the people subverting the beautiful game. I am not that person and you know it. " When has anyone ever changed their opinions on this fucking forum having been called out on it?  | |||
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"I wasn't making a sodding argument, I was being stupid. Ridiculous. Just like the dudes were. But maybe girls can't be stupid or ridiculous, maybe we have to be super duper sensible all the goddamned time. Call out the others - please. Why my comment? Do you speak for all other women? Did I say all women have to be sensible all the time? I took exception to your retaliation because of the tired stereotypes about the men's game you used. Everyone knows what the others said were wrong, you don't need me to call them out for others to see that. You're tired of stereotypes of the men's game??????????????? Good heavens. Try being a female footballer and come back with stereotypes! Try being female and attending football matches, especially in late 90s/early 00s. You should hear what women were referred to like then (and probably now, still. I just don't hear it anymore because I can't easily watch matches in person anymore). So you agree with a comment earlier in the thread about men making comparisons about women's football to men's football who miss the point and then you do exactly the same? Like I said, it's not a competition! I wasn't being serious, FFS. All this "the men making earlier comments are beyond salvation" blah blah. This is exactly the problem! By few people calling such comments out, they remain. They perpetuate. They are copied over and over by subsequent generations. The misogyny continues, unabated. So people DO need to call out the hopeless cases. Please do it because frankly, on this particular topic, I'm heartily sick of doing so and you know I have done, over and over and over and taken all sorts of flak for it. Please channel your energies towards the people subverting the beautiful game. I am not that person and you know it. When has anyone ever changed their opinions on this fucking forum having been called out on it? "Well then, if that's the approach, it's open season on all forms of discriminatory comments, isn't it? Let's just leave all racism, ableism, anti LGBTQ+, misogynistic etc. comment unchallenged. I doubt those people will change their minds either. Leave 'em to it. | |||
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"When has anyone ever changed their opinions on this fucking forum having been called out on it?
Well then, if that's the approach, it's open season on all forms of discriminatory comments, isn't it? Let's just leave all racism, ableism, anti LGBTQ+, misogynistic etc. comment unchallenged. I doubt those people will change their minds either. Leave 'em to it. "This is getting off topic but can you honestly say in the numerous arguments you've had on here, that you've managed to persuade others to your way of thinking? Calling it out is one thing, seeing it through to genuine and tangible change is another. | |||
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"When has anyone ever changed their opinions on this fucking forum having been called out on it?
Well then, if that's the approach, it's open season on all forms of discriminatory comments, isn't it? Let's just leave all racism, ableism, anti LGBTQ+, misogynistic etc. comment unchallenged. I doubt those people will change their minds either. Leave 'em to it.
This is getting off topic but can you honestly say in the numerous arguments you've had on here, that you've managed to persuade others to your way of thinking? Calling it out is one thing, seeing it through to genuine and tangible change is another."Probably not, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out or whatever. Even if we don't see our actions having an overtly positive response, we should call out discriminatory stuff otherwise our silence makes it okay. Same in the real world. We have the choice to remain silent, or to be that small voice in the background, nagging. One day, someone might listen. | |||
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"The skill levels are fantastic in womens football. Plus it feels fresh and the players aren't jaded like it seems in the men's game. There seems to be a better attitude with the women. I do think that the women's game would be a lot better if they used a slightly smaller pitch and slightly smaller goals. There seems to be too much space." Apparently it has been considered. The average UK woman is 5ft 3 or 4. The average UK man is 5ft 11 ish, so we shouldn't be surprised that the job of the female goalkeeper is substantially different to the men's game. | |||
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"When has anyone ever changed their opinions on this fucking forum having been called out on it?
Well then, if that's the approach, it's open season on all forms of discriminatory comments, isn't it? Let's just leave all racism, ableism, anti LGBTQ+, misogynistic etc. comment unchallenged. I doubt those people will change their minds either. Leave 'em to it.
This is getting off topic but can you honestly say in the numerous arguments you've had on here, that you've managed to persuade others to your way of thinking? Calling it out is one thing, seeing it through to genuine and tangible change is another.
Probably not, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call it out or whatever. Even if we don't see our actions having an overtly positive response, we should call out discriminatory stuff otherwise our silence makes it okay. Same in the real world. We have the choice to remain silent, or to be that small voice in the background, nagging. One day, someone might listen. "But if you have multiple other people calling it out already (which I've seen in this thread), what does one more voice do? I could easily flip this on its head and ask why you aren't hammering down those other opinions and keep replying to me even though I've said nothing derogatory about football as a whole. Men's and women's. But hey, as long as your voice is out there, then great! | |||
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"I need to catch a WSL game at the Emirates at some point. I’d also like to coach an adult women’s team at some point "Probably a better atmosphere than when the fellas are playing... sshhhh | |||
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"I need to catch a WSL game at the Emirates at some point. I’d also like to coach an adult women’s team at some point
Probably a better atmosphere than when the fellas are playing... sshhhh"Having gone to Anfield and confidently sang ‘where’s your famous atmosphere’, I have nothing more to add | |||
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"I need to catch a WSL game at the Emirates at some point. I’d also like to coach an adult women’s team at some point
Probably a better atmosphere than when the fellas are playing... sshhhh
Having gone to Anfield and confidently sang ‘where’s your famous atmosphere’, I have nothing more to add "Sing it on Sunday at Wembley in the cup final? Oh no sorry you can't Lol | |||
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"I need to catch a WSL game at the Emirates at some point. I’d also like to coach an adult women’s team at some point
Probably a better atmosphere than when the fellas are playing... sshhhh
Having gone to Anfield and confidently sang ‘where’s your famous atmosphere’, I have nothing more to add
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Oh no sorry you can't
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"I need to catch a WSL game at the Emirates at some point. I’d also like to coach an adult women’s team at some point
Probably a better atmosphere than when the fellas are playing... sshhhh
Having gone to Anfield and confidently sang ‘where’s your famous atmosphere’, I have nothing more to add
Sing it on Sunday at Wembley in the cup final?
Oh no sorry you can't
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing …… I’m not sure about that.
Yeah the women do enough childcare at home. They don't want to be dealing with overgrown toddlers on a Saturday at 3pm. All those dummies spat out, the length and breadth of English football pitches
*Over to you, Ian*"I’d still put the smart money on a bet that guys would win. That’s my point. Generally stronger, taller, and faster. And in a team that is going to matter. I’m sorry, it’s facts and what I see demonstrated by anything that’s actually happened where men have played women. And it’s all over the internet where it belittles the women’s team that was involved. (Which I think isn’t great) Women’s football should be seen for its own sport, as the op stated, and it’s great. I coached at school level, and I will always state there was a girl who could run rings around the lads. Women’s football will get bigger, there’s a market for it, cross your fingers it doesn’t go the same way Men’s football did after the premier league started. | |||
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"Hi all am much happier anyway Does yiu all like women's football I love it I am season ticket holder for Durham women fc One if my greatest moments when Lionesses brought football home at euro 2022" And yes there are a few Lionesses I rather fancy  | |||
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"Hi all am much happier anyway Does yiu all like women's football I love it I am season ticket holder for Durham women fc One if my greatest moments when Lionesses brought football home at euro 2022" I actually enjoy watching the women play, because they just get on with the game. There's far less hair flicking, constant straightening of over the knee socks (I mean, really guys?), and they even manage to survive crunching tackles, unlike the men who have amazing acrobatic dives and abject pain from tackles nowhere near them, which are magically remedied by a sponge soaked in water..... | |||
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"I was brought up watching men playing footie on the pitch and on the telly. These days I much prefer watching women's football matches then men's. When a female gets tackled and she goes to the ground on replay you will see 99% of the time its because of a genuine tackle. With men's football they fall to the floor rolling around like they've broken their leg and on replay their opponent was no where near them! It's pathetic!" Hear here! I posted the same, then read back through the thread | |||
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"So when are we organising a match between some women of fab and the blokes in here. I’m in. Bagsy not in net. "100% up for this! | |||
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"I just can't understand why people find it so difficult to watch and appreciate for the level it's at...you wouldn't go to an Under 12s or Sunday league game and have a pop because they're not at Premier League level?" kinda different you go to the under 12s cos your son or daughters playing, i just can't watch it sorry but then i can't watch a lot of football | |||
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100% up for this! "*this really should now happen. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. " We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. " Yep there are crap female pundits AND crap male pundits. That doesn't alter the fact they aren't good pundits | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. " I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. Yep there are crap female pundits AND crap male pundits. That doesn't alter the fact they aren't good pundits" Agreed. And some of the crap male pundits played at the highest level. Some of the best pundits never played professional football. It’s not a prerequisite of commenting on the game. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad. "Maybe he’s defending the concept and not women’s football explicitly. Joey Barton’s hate filled X tirades are influencing a lot of people to spout nonsense. Growing up I loved listening to Jonathan Pearce on Talksport and thought he had a superb style of radio commentary. He wasn’t a pro footballer but great at the role. Being a good footballer doesn’t make you a leading expert in the field when it comes to communicating and breaking down the what, why and hows. Some of the best coaches we enjoy today weren’t the most equipped players, they are totally different skillsets. I think the pile on towards female pundits is quite telling. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad. "I don’t tend to watch women’s football much at all, because I don’t have a connection with it like I do the men’s game - but it’s obvious that the game is improving, and will continue to do so. If you watch men’s games from the 80’s and 90’s, the passion and fire is there, but the standard is nowhere near what we see today. | |||
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"So when are we organising a match between some women of fab and the blokes in here. I’m in. Bagsy not in net. "Think I saw Erling Haaland in a dress on here, I bagsy them
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad.
I don’t tend to watch women’s football much at all, because I don’t have a connection with it like I do the men’s game - but it’s obvious that the game is improving, and will continue to do so.
If you watch men’s games from the 80’s and 90’s, the passion and fire is there, but the standard is nowhere near what we see today."and its the passion and fire you want to see not 22 women lovely as they are kicking a ball. I'm sure one day they will all have muscley thighs and chiselled jaws and be kicking the ball around the pitch with precision but not yet | |||
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"Joey Barton says the things he says for clicks. Nothing more. " I think anyone quoting him on any subject needs to look at the type of person he is before considering doing so.. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. Yep there are crap female pundits AND crap male pundits. That doesn't alter the fact they aren't good pundits Agreed. And some of the crap male pundits played at the highest level. Some of the best pundits never played professional football. It’s not a prerequisite of commenting on the game. " There is a difference though between commentating or describing what we can all see on the TV screen and being employed and referred to as an expert pundit. And there is a lot of personal taste too. But for me. The preponderance of the awful presenters is making a lot of sport hard to engage with... That includes cricket, football and rugby. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad. "I have no words. Females are just as able to provide expert punditry and/or commentary. John Motson was never a pro footballer. In fact, he went to a school where football was frowned upon and rugby encouraged instead. Yet, he had passion and learned about the game. Anybody can have that passion. Anyone can learn enough about the game to provide commentary and opinion. Gender is irrelevant. The substance of your comments, referring to appearance etc tell us everything we need to know. However, I am contractually obliged not to share my full opinion on here right now, because I might be given a blue card. | |||
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"So when are we organising a match between some women of fab and the blokes in here. I’m in. Bagsy not in net. "In what other team sports are women pitted against men? Why would this be necessary to prove anything? You wouldn't expect Elaine Thompson to beat Usain Bolt over 100m, would you? But both are outstanding Jamaican sprinters in their respective gender class. | |||
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"So when are we organising a match between some women of fab and the blokes in here. I’m in. Bagsy not in net.
In what other team sports are women pitted against men? Why would this be necessary to prove anything? You wouldn't expect Elaine Thompson to beat Usain Bolt over 100m, would you? But both are outstanding Jamaican sprinters in their respective gender class."Very true I think the issue arises because unlike male and female footballers, athletes do not have the media bleating on about and demanding in some cases parity like the football and rugby world. The boys v women national team comment presumably only has relevance to demonstrate some kind of league table of competence? Maybe to inform the debate about what sports are on tv/media? Who knows why they even played that game.? And because also female athletics stands on its own commercially as with tennis and gymnastics and many other sports. Possibly because they have been in the public eye for longer. But yeah the comments about boys teams beating women's team, whilst they may be true are just unhelpful noise. Women's football should stand on its own and if people enjoy it.. Good for them. | |||
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In what other team sports are women pitted against men? Why would this be necessary to prove anything? You wouldn't expect Elaine Thompson to beat Usain Bolt over 100m, would you? But both are outstanding Jamaican sprinters in their respective gender class.
Very true I think the issue arises because unlike male and female footballers, athletes do not have the media bleating on about and demanding in some cases parity like the football and rugby world. The boys v women national team comment presumably only has relevance to demonstrate some kind of league table of competence? Maybe to inform the debate about what sports are on tv/media? Who knows why they even played that game.?
And because also female athletics stands on its own commercially as with tennis and gymnastics and many other sports. Possibly because they have been in the public eye for longer. But yeah the comments about boys teams beating women's team, whilst they may be true are just unhelpful noise. Women's football should stand on its own and if people enjoy it.. Good for them. "I have my own opinion as to why (mainly men) are so keen to underscore that women will likely not beat men at football. But my contractual obligations prevent me from sharing that opinion. I think you get the drift, though. | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad.
I have no words. Females are just as able to provide expert punditry and/or commentary. John Motson was never a pro footballer. In fact, he went to a school where football was frowned upon and rugby encouraged instead. Yet, he had passion and learned about the game. Anybody can have that passion. Anyone can learn enough about the game to provide commentary and opinion. Gender is irrelevant.
The substance of your comments, referring to appearance etc tell us everything we need to know. However, I am contractually obliged not to share my full opinion on here right now, because I might be given a blue card. "I did say they can learn referring to women, i just don't enjoy listening or watching womens football you are trying to find a reason to punish my comment but its my unfiltered opinion, I'm not trying to be politically correct and don't want to be | |||
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"Imagine being a bloke who doesn’t enjoy listening to expert opinions because they came out of the mouth of a woman." lol hey i enjoy women and have great respect for women but does that mean i have to enjoy their football no it doesn't, give them primetime tv coverage its only fair in these days of equal rights and politically correct statements. | |||
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"Imagine being a bloke who doesn’t enjoy listening to expert opinions because they came out of the mouth of a woman." Think it depends on the woman who is the expert. Some people are good at it. Some people aren't. Some people have different tastes. All are allowed. | |||
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"Hi all am much happier anyway Does yiu all like women's football I love it I am season ticket holder for Durham women fc One if my greatest moments when Lionesses brought football home at euro 2022" We also enjoyed a great time at the Euros 22 | |||
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"Women's football on tv and women pundits are like VAR.. Fuckn useless an not necessary Football was the workingmans game but it's been lost to political correctness and a greedy, money grabbing corporation.. the premier leauge Football is not football anymore as we used to know it It's a day out for tourists as locals have been outpriced an forgotten. " Not sure how much football you watched before the premier league. It’s basically the same age as you | |||
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"Women's football on tv and women pundits are like VAR.. Fuckn useless an not necessary Football was the workingmans game but it's been lost to political correctness and a greedy, money grabbing corporation.. the premier leauge Football is not football anymore as we used to know it It's a day out for tourists as locals have been outpriced an forgotten. Not sure how much football you watched before the premier league. It’s basically the same age as you "Only ever knew the premier leauge mate :/ but I know ticket prices have doubled if not more.. an the atmosphere at grounds is totally different.. plus I go the game with 2 other generations of my family an have been well educated in football history | |||
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"Women's football on tv and women pundits are like VAR.. Fuckn useless an not necessary Football was the workingmans game but it's been lost to political correctness and a greedy, money grabbing corporation.. the premier leauge Football is not football anymore as we used to know it It's a day out for tourists as locals have been outpriced an forgotten. Not sure how much football you watched before the premier league. It’s basically the same age as you
Only ever knew the premier leauge mate :/ but I know ticket prices have doubled if not more.. an the atmosphere at grounds is totally different.. plus I go the game with 2 other generations of my family an have been well educated in football history"I think the lockdown gave unprecedented allowance of price hikes across the board and also allowed many businesses to do away with the cash option  | |||
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"Been to Chelsea ladies couple of times and enjoyed it seems less ego's on the pitch then the men's game. And their arses look so much better in shorts" Dead right about the egos, dead right about the shorts too! | |||
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" Also, women pundits. If you haven’t played at the top level of mens football, how can you really know how to comment on it any more than any male player from non league upwards. We’ve had many, many male pundits over the years who’ve never played professional football. I notice you are defending women's football is it because you love the women that play it more so that the content of the football, its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women. So the bottom line is although they play ok football its not exciting football and occasionally watchable as for the commentary a beautiful woman as most are can learn with time the right words to say but the John Motsons, Gary Linnekers, Alan Shearers give the best commentary the commentary i want to hear but as with everything its whats fair so it will continue to only get worse, if i don't like the commentary i just mute so its not all bad.
I have no words. Females are just as able to provide expert punditry and/or commentary. John Motson was never a pro footballer. In fact, he went to a school where football was frowned upon and rugby encouraged instead. Yet, he had passion and learned about the game. Anybody can have that passion. Anyone can learn enough about the game to provide commentary and opinion. Gender is irrelevant.
The substance of your comments, referring to appearance etc tell us everything we need to know. However, I am contractually obliged not to share my full opinion on here right now, because I might be given a blue card. "...this bit - "its all a bit we have to be seen to be fair adverts that disproportionately feature mixed race relationships and football that features women and is commented on by women"?? Methinks a whole other agenda here... | |||
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"More watchable than “men’s” football - and less rolling around when tapped on the shin! " No it really isn't. Bears very little resemblance to mens football beyond it's played with a ball and 11 aside. And that's a sad old trope. But it's a sport on its own. And if people enjoy watching it, that's great. Maybe one day I'll enjoy it but right now. Not. | |||
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"They should let the women's teams enter the FA Cup and play against the men and potentially see some giant killing It wouldn’t end well for the women. I read something about a boys under 15s team battering the Women’s US national team who are usually considered the best. " Yes I heard about that match that too , under 15 boys school team beat the best female team in the world | |||
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"I enjoy it. I don't watch it while simultaneously comparing it to men playing the game. I enjoy the game I'm watching and wanting my team to win. In the same way I watched my Sunday league team - just wanting them to win against their peers, rather than saying it was shit as they weren't as good as Ronaldo." I entirely agree with this. The only problem with not comparing the two is that the female players, and the media insist on being compared to the men. What makes it worse is they as expect to be held in higher regard whilst also expecting to be held to a much lower standard. I suppose my only real problem with women's football is the same problem I have with so many aspects of society these days, which is that everything seems to have been turned into a political Hill on which to die. | |||
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"Has anyone else noticed that most of the women in football don’t have any tits, There is one woman playing in the Chelsea team Melinda she is stunning I would love a pair of her knickers to sniff after the game. "A spectacular thread bump after 12 weeks .. good work my friend! | |||
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"Has anyone else noticed that most of the women in football don’t have any tits, There is one woman playing in the Chelsea team Melinda she is stunning I would love a pair of her knickers to sniff after the game.
A spectacular thread bump after 12 weeks .. good work my friend! "So the women have had 12 weeks to get a team together and nothing?… Are they still arguing over the fact that they might have to be seen wearing the same outfit? | |||
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"No, never watch, can’t imagine I ever will. The Women Pros are talented, and far better than I was, but if I’m paying to watch football, or any sport for that matter, then I’ll watch the best, the Premiership. In this case. I’ll qualify that by saying I don’t watch The Championship for the same reason. " Hope you don't watch Man U then  | |||
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"I prefer watching the women's game. For one thing, as the women are not as fast or as strong as the men the pace of play is slower and I find it easier to keep up. And for another thing, sexy athletic women running around in little shorts? I can watch pretty much anything for that!" For 2 hours? I mean that's a long time to watch blonde pony tails running around. | |||
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