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"Not at all - If I'm going to meet a guy I'll do a social meet first. But I've now got to the stage of safety firstness that I'll only really meet in clubs. We single ladies have got to look out for ourselves!" I've never been to a club, not sure they're my thing tbh, but sometimes think it's my only option now, 6/6 let downs is pushing it even for me lol | |||
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"I wouldn't say that you're being out of order, as you say its for your safety but also I imagine that you make sure you have an attraction to the guy also. X" I would've swapped pics so know I fancy him, but yes there still has to be a spark, and I need to know he's not mad lol | |||
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"No not at all, I always do social meet first, just a quick coffee to check there is a spark there. To be honest I find most genuine guys are very obliging of this so haven't really had a problem. " Exactly the same for me. | |||
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"Not at all - If I'm going to meet a guy I'll do a social meet first. But I've now got to the stage of safety firstness that I'll only really meet in clubs. We single ladies have got to look out for ourselves! I've never been to a club, not sure they're my thing tbh, but sometimes think it's my only option now, 6/6 let downs is pushing it even for me lol" genuine guys will meet like that first if they are really interested | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " You are very sensible lady, I much prefer a social first . You can always walk away then | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " Not wrong at all and if they can't respect you're rules then would you really want to meet them anyway? Guess in a way they have shown their true character so maybe it isn't a complete waste of your time? x | |||
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"You're being perfectly reasonable to expect a social first. Your safety is paramount and you need to know if there's a mutual attraction. Stick to your guns..." Ahhh a good one girls | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option." Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! " I offered last night.... | |||
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"Bloody women and their rules enough to turn you gay isn't it? " Seriously thinking about it | |||
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"Not at all, even as a single guy I often text a friend to say where I'm going. In today's society we can never be too safe x" I've done this too... | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! I offered last night.... " I know hun and I'm very grateful, not sure if it is my thing, but I've been thinking about it more and more, sorting a meet for myself isn't working, so maybe next time eh? xxx | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! I offered last night.... I know hun and I'm very grateful, not sure if it is my thing, but I've been thinking about it more and more, sorting a meet for myself isn't working, so maybe next time eh? xxx" Of course... I will hold your hand xx | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! I offered last night.... I know hun and I'm very grateful, not sure if it is my thing, but I've been thinking about it more and more, sorting a meet for myself isn't working, so maybe next time eh? xxx Of course... I will hold your hand xx" yeah.....lets all go | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! I offered last night.... I know hun and I'm very grateful, not sure if it is my thing, but I've been thinking about it more and more, sorting a meet for myself isn't working, so maybe next time eh? xxx Of course... I will hold your hand xx" Lol you've met me and know the "whole group nekkidness" thing isn't for me, but I imagine it would be fun to watch haha | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option. Give J or Ruby a shout - pretty sure they're planning another Chams trip soon!! I offered last night.... I know hun and I'm very grateful, not sure if it is my thing, but I've been thinking about it more and more, sorting a meet for myself isn't working, so maybe next time eh? xxx Of course... I will hold your hand xx yeah.....lets all go " Sounds good to me xx | |||
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"Always do what is best for you. However, meeting someone at McD's for a coffee doesn't mean they ain't a nutter, they may just hide it better. There will always be an element of risk for males, females & couples" Oh I agree, but I think looking in their eyes and having a conversation, would give you more of a chance to decide if you want to spend time alone with them. Invite someone to your house (which I have done) and decide you don't really want to be with them, it's not quite so easy to get them out, so far I have been lucky with those I have met. | |||
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"Always do what is best for you. However, meeting someone at McD's for a coffee doesn't mean they ain't a nutter, they may just hide it better. There will always be an element of risk for males, females & couples Oh I agree, but I think looking in their eyes and having a conversation, would give you more of a chance to decide if you want to spend time alone with them. Invite someone to your house (which I have done) and decide you don't really want to be with them, it's not quite so easy to get them out, so far I have been lucky with those I have met. " | |||
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"You know its the right thing to do hunnie and you have me behind you 100 % safety wise. As I have done with you lol xxx " You know me hun, I don't have a problem meeting people, but after all the hassle with the nutter, I don't want to risk meeting one face to face, lol looks like another profile update fsg | |||
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"Don't look on it as being let down. Your method, is clearly ing out the type which are not for you, early on. " It's not so much being let down hun, but I have to organise my time around work and my daughter, if they have no intention of meeting, why say they will? I could've met someone else instead, I know a lot enjoy the chase, maybe I run too well | |||
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"Suggest you tell a friend full details of where you are meeting for a social as part of your safety plan. Give them details of who, where your meeting and for approximately how long. Keep in touch by mobile as you arrive, meet the guy and if you intend to extend the meet/possible play. Suzie Lampugh comes to mind. I'm both a lone worker and a lone swinger and put all sorts in place for my personal safety." safety first at all times, ladies please do tell a friend and txt to let them know all well. have fun but be safe | |||
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"Don't look on it as being let down. Your method, is clearly ing out the type which are not for you, early on. It's not so much being let down hun, but I have to organise my time around work and my daughter, if they have no intention of meeting, why say they will? I could've met someone else instead, I know a lot enjoy the chase, maybe I run too well " Hang around outside burger joints. That's where all the fit lads go | |||
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"Don't look on it as being let down. Your method, is clearly ing out the type which are not for you, early on. It's not so much being let down hun, but I have to organise my time around work and my daughter, if they have no intention of meeting, why say they will? I could've met someone else instead, I know a lot enjoy the chase, maybe I run too well Hang around outside burger joints. That's where all the fit lads go " Lmao nooooooo they might nick my customised bag | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " by the look of your pics they are nuts! If you don't mind me saying, I would reduced the profile down to the bits which will essentially filter out chancers. Can't see many blokes reading that long profile, especially as they will be distracted by the pics and we all know what happens to brain functions then. | |||
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"I always meet for a coffee first. If they don't want to that's fine, there's tons of other single fems out there for them to meet instead... " | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " I feel exactly the same and always have a coffee and chat meet first if they are not interested then I just dont meet them or delete them from my friends list. Us women have plenty to choose from and can be picky, a lot of the blokes on here come across as been desparate and Im not interested. | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works! so you are absolutely right to arrange a social meet. i am guessing that the blokes who let you down expected to play.a social meet requires more effort! | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works! so you are absolutely right to arrange a social meet. i am guessing that the blokes who let you down expected to play.a social meet requires more effort! " I have done the meet at my place and yes it had lead to playing, however, One bad experience made me rethink,when I first joined here I was a little naive, how quickly we learn. I have asked for socials and although these ppl have said yes and have no problem with it, them actually turning up is another thing | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " You are doing exactly the right thing - stick to your rules and don't compromise for anyone! Its the same that I do, and if anyone doesn't like it, its their loss!! | |||
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"No not at all, I always do social meet first, just a quick coffee to check there is a spark there. To be honest I find most genuine guys are very obliging of this so haven't really had a problem. " Likewise, but it's horses for courses. There are women that "meet now", not really bothered as long as they get what they want. The problem arises when the "meet nows" contact the "social meets first" then realise they can't be arsed having a coffee...it cuts into their potential snagging time! | |||
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"Always do what is best for you. However, meeting someone at McD's for a coffee doesn't mean they ain't a nutter, they may just hide it better. There will always be an element of risk for males, females & couples" I agree, but at least four men spring immediately to mind that I couldn't get away fast enough from. Messages, photos, telephone conversations painted the image of urbane gentlemen. The reality was so different and they were genuinely surprised I didn't want to see them again: ever!!! | |||
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"The cynic in me thinks that there is a reason some men don't want to be seen in public having a drink in public. But like everyone else has said perfectly reasonable to ask for a social meet and avoid anyone that objects." I don't think you need to be a cynic! | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " No, you're not fussy - you're being realistic. As a single fem, if you're not putting your personal safety first (and then whether you like the guy second), then you're going to be on a slippery slope to a nasty experience. You can't guard against every possible bad situation, but the 'Social-only first' condition s out a LOT of the a***holes. Carry on the way you are, and don't be too eager to go into private meets by letting your libido rule you head! If you REALLY need a good fuck NOW - then the safest way is ... 'Get thee to a club Madam'!! lol! | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " Everyone has to think of their safety. Single woman, single men and couples. Always do things how you want to do them. If the other person does not like that just tell them to jog on and look for somebody who does respect the way you like to do things. Before any social meet I would get to know them online a bit first. | |||
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"an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works! " I am a man and I do not think like that. I never expect anything when having a meet. I know at anytime either me or the person(s) I am meeting could decide not to take things further. | |||
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"I'm not going to pull the old "I've had enough, I'm leaving" crap, but it does get on your tits, especially when I have to plan around work and my daughter, maybe I need to go to a club, just to see what it's like, maybe a better option." Get to know them online first. You can then spot the time wasters and fantasists. You can also get a feel for other person and see how you get on. You can see if they are prepared to put some time in getting to know you or are just looking for another notch on the bedpost. It seems the men you have been going to meet are only interested in one thing. They don't want coffee and chat just sex. Use your gut instincts. | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " The guys I have met have been social first, admittedly 2 of them I did go back to their place for the coffee, but I had been chatting to them for ages and exchanged pics and they came to pick me up. If I hadnt recognised them Id have done a runner. Carry on as you are, there will be someone who is genuine out there and will meet you socially. | |||
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"an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works!" Disagree. That's how an arrogant mans' mind works, and certainly not how mine does. Trouble is, guys who DO think like that don't ever consider how much better their swinging could be if they changed their attitude and looked at what marketing people call 'Lifetime Value' - what would you prefer? To meet a woman once a have sex with her, or... meet a woman for a social first, get to know her as well as you can, and end up being invited back time after time...?? I know which I prefer, and if that takes a bit of effort and PATIENCE, then that's the way it is... | |||
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"an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works! Disagree. That's how an arrogant mans' mind works, and certainly not how mine does. Trouble is, guys who DO think like that don't ever consider how much better their swinging could be if they changed their attitude and looked at what marketing people call 'Lifetime Value' - what would you prefer? To meet a woman once a have sex with her, or... meet a woman for a social first, get to know her as well as you can, and end up being invited back time after time...?? I know which I prefer, and if that takes a bit of effort and PATIENCE, then that's the way it is..." I disagree, when ive gotten to know someone and invite them over im assuming they will want to have sex otherwise its a waste of time them coming | |||
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"an honest _iew from a man, and i am confident that a large majority if not all men on here would agree with me, if i was meeting a lady for the first time and it was at her home i would expect to play!! its how a mans mind works! Disagree. That's how an arrogant mans' mind works, and certainly not how mine does. Trouble is, guys who DO think like that don't ever consider how much better their swinging could be if they changed their attitude and looked at what marketing people call 'Lifetime Value' - what would you prefer? To meet a woman once a have sex with her, or... meet a woman for a social first, get to know her as well as you can, and end up being invited back time after time...?? I know which I prefer, and if that takes a bit of effort and PATIENCE, then that's the way it is... I disagree, when ive gotten to know someone and invite them over im assuming they will want to have sex otherwise its a waste of time them coming" I think the point the OP made and the _iew offered by the other contributor was based on the first meeting and whether that was supposed to be a social-only, even if that is at the fems house. Everyone gets to that point in different ways and, it seems, you go about in similarly to me, and I would agree with you on that basis. The point I was trying to make is that, regardless of location, if that meeting is clearly supposed to be social-only then it's rather arrogant to assume it will be something other than that. | |||
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"I even have a panic word that if they receive it they know I have a problem. You can't be too careful as I have found out in the past. Stick to your guns girl " Is it kippers by any chance? | |||
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"Not at all, even as a single guy I often text a friend to say where I'm going. In today's society we can never be too safe x" I never think to bother to do that as there is only one person I trust and he could be anywhere in the country therefore no help at all | |||
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"As another single female I would say you are totally doing the right thing. I also have an arrangement with two long standing contacts that I tell them if I am meeting anyone new and all the details and keep in contact with them by text . I even have a panic word that if they receive it they know I have a problem. You can't be too careful as I have found out in the past. Stick to your guns girl " Too right! I know a woman who was contacted by the crossbow cannibal on another popular dating site | |||
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"Is it so wrong that I expect as a single woman, to meet a guy socially first to ensure I feel comfortable and safe, before I decide on a play meet? 3 times this week I have asked for the social first and 3 times I have been let down, I don't meet easily anyway, I'm a fussy bugger, but when I do I like to know I'm going to be safe and the person isn't a complete nutter. " Just gets back to some men being totally fkin clueless about how to approach this site. It also says a great deal about the individual if their only consideration is how quickly and easily they can get their rocks off rather than concentrating their efforts on making sex into better sex. A connection certainly does make a difference. I don't buy into this attitude of 1 guys behaviour ruining it for everyone else though. It says more about those making those statements than it does about those they are aimed at. We all have a choice in who we meet and some people make more informed choices than others. It's not always easy to say no to someone you fancy the arse off but sometimes it has to be done. Unfortunately, we often see someone we like and pay scant attention to the back story and the way they interact with us, which is often where the clues lie in terms of what their motivation is and how they are likely to execute it. | |||
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"I'm not saying the guy isn't coming over for sex, what I am saying, is I'd like to make sure I feel safe in his company before being alone with him, besides which, in my opinion, sex gets better the more I get to know someone, the more comfortable I become, so if he's an arrogant arse who doesn't consider my feelings on the safety aspect, he wont be coming at all, let alone for sex." I would of hoped guys would feel the same and want to meet ladies first socially to make sure she is also what he is looking for ( clean, etc). I think you are spot on with your expectations, dont change them for anyone. x | |||
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"As another single female I would say you are totally doing the right thing. I also have an arrangement with two long standing contacts that I tell them if I am meeting anyone new and all the details and keep in contact with them by text . I even have a panic word that if they receive it they know I have a problem. You can't be too careful as I have found out in the past. Stick to your guns girl Too right! I know a woman who was contacted by the crossbow cannibal on another popular dating site " Exactly my point, I have had a guy on another site want to stab me, which is why I'm now on this site, I know a quick cuppa isn't going to tell you they are mad, but it does give you more of an idea if you are comfortable with them. We all take a risk in meeting "strangers" but we can at least try to be safe. | |||
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"I'm not saying the guy isn't coming over for sex, what I am saying, is I'd like to make sure I feel safe in his company before being alone with him, besides which, in my opinion, sex gets better the more I get to know someone, the more comfortable I become, so if he's an arrogant arse who doesn't consider my feelings on the safety aspect, he wont be coming at all, let alone for sex. I would of hoped guys would feel the same and want to meet ladies first socially to make sure she is also what he is looking for ( clean, etc). I think you are spot on with your expectations, dont change them for anyone. x " I have on my profile I'd consider someone a nut if they expected to meet me without a social meet! Think about it, I'm a very large woman with handcuffs, gags, restraints and blindfolds. I could tie you to your bed and ransack your house. Men need to be circumspect too! | |||
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"I'm not saying the guy isn't coming over for sex, what I am saying, is I'd like to make sure I feel safe in his company before being alone with him, besides which, in my opinion, sex gets better the more I get to know someone, the more comfortable I become, so if he's an arrogant arse who doesn't consider my feelings on the safety aspect, he wont be coming at all, let alone for sex. I would of hoped guys would feel the same and want to meet ladies first socially to make sure she is also what he is looking for ( clean, etc). I think you are spot on with your expectations, dont change them for anyone. x I have on my profile I'd consider someone a nut if they expected to meet me without a social meet! Think about it, I'm a very large woman with handcuffs, gags, restraints and blindfolds. I could tie you to your bed and ransack your house. Men need to be circumspect too!" Do you know of any gay doms Miss ? I could do with someone with all that kit to tie me up and then rustle up a nice quiche and have a tidy round whilst it's in the oven | |||
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"I'm not saying the guy isn't coming over for sex, what I am saying, is I'd like to make sure I feel safe in his company before being alone with him, besides which, in my opinion, sex gets better the more I get to know someone, the more comfortable I become, so if he's an arrogant arse who doesn't consider my feelings on the safety aspect, he wont be coming at all, let alone for sex. I would of hoped guys would feel the same and want to meet ladies first socially to make sure she is also what he is looking for ( clean, etc). I think you are spot on with your expectations, dont change them for anyone. x I have on my profile I'd consider someone a nut if they expected to meet me without a social meet! Think about it, I'm a very large woman with handcuffs, gags, restraints and blindfolds. I could tie you to your bed and ransack your house. Men need to be circumspect too! Do you know of any gay doms Miss ? I could do with someone with all that kit to tie me up and then rustle up a nice quiche and have a tidy round whilst it's in the oven " | |||
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