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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester

Just because you don't solicit an opinion does that mean you're not allowed to give one, if you don't believe in something you've had pushed down your throat does that make you any less of an expert on it? I love fresh soup but just because you love tinned should i scorn you?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
42 weeks ago

East Sussex

I like homemade and tinned.

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"I like homemade and tinned. "
lol so do i

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By *ensuallover1000Man
42 weeks ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

What’s that being pushed down my throat?

I like tinned soup

Opinions are exactly as the name denotes however; in the absence of empirical data to substantiate them as facts, merely opinions and one is as good (or bad) as any other.

….Unless it’s my opinion of course.

In which case it’s the correct one

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
42 weeks ago

Stockport

Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"What’s that being pushed down my throat?

I like tinned soup

Opinions are exactly as the name denotes however; in the absence of empirical data to substantiate them as facts, merely opinions and one is as good (or bad) as any other.

….Unless it’s my opinion of course.

In which case it’s the correct one "
of course

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By *rsTrellisWoman
42 weeks ago

Cambridge


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub."

I love this! Well said.

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By *hrimper36Couple
42 weeks ago

Central France dept 36


"Just because you don't solicit an opinion does that mean you're not allowed to give one, if you don't believe in something you've had pushed down your throat does that make you any less of an expert on it? I love fresh soup but just because you love tinned should i scorn you? "

No Fred you should embrace and respect my opinions on soup but you imho don’t have to share my soup based opinion.

All opinions are valid to the person holding that opinion but we as individuals don’t have to agree with others.

T

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By *ymAndIcedCoffeeWoman
42 weeks ago

Worcester


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub."

^^ This.

People who think that their layman’s opinion about a subject should carry the same weight as an experts opinion are not the sharpest tool in the box.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

Of course you’re allowed an opinion. And my opinion is you’re wrong. …

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By *ealitybitesMan
42 weeks ago

Belfast

I asked a similar question on here a few weeks ago about the value of an individuals opinion and whether or not people respected opinions that were based on lived experience?

The point I was making was that my experiences of certain situations or people are different to others so obviously I will form a different opinion which is equally valid.

My thread was triggered by people who may be more well read than I am but were challenging my opinions despite the events in question taking place in a country they had never set foot in and 10-20 years before they were born.

If I remember correctly I asked why so many people reference articles or papers to back up their opinion on various topics?

Do they not then become an echo chamber for someone else rather than being able to express their own opinion?

Does an opinion only have value if you can quote from a scientific study?

I'll take an opinion based on actual lived experience over the ability to read a book any day of the week.

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By *ymAndIcedCoffeeWoman
42 weeks ago

Worcester


"I asked a similar question on here a few weeks ago about the value of an individuals opinion and whether or not people respected opinions that were based on lived experience?

The point I was making was that my experiences of certain situations or people are different to others so obviously I will form a different opinion which is equally valid.

My thread was triggered by people who may be more well read than I am but were challenging my opinions despite the events in question taking place in a country they had never set foot in and 10-20 years before they were born.

If I remember correctly I asked why so many people reference articles or papers to back up their opinion on various topics?

Do they not then become an echo chamber for someone else rather than being able to express their own opinion?

Does an opinion only have value if you can quote from a scientific study?

I'll take an opinion based on actual lived experience over the ability to read a book any day of the week.

"

If you think that quoting high qualify peer-reviewed research means you’re perpetuating an “echo chamber” then you fundamentally don’t understand what that entails.

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"I asked a similar question on here a few weeks ago about the value of an individuals opinion and whether or not people respected opinions that were based on lived experience?

The point I was making was that my experiences of certain situations or people are different to others so obviously I will form a different opinion which is equally valid.

My thread was triggered by people who may be more well read than I am but were challenging my opinions despite the events in question taking place in a country they had never set foot in and 10-20 years before they were born.

If I remember correctly I asked why so many people reference articles or papers to back up their opinion on various topics?

Do they not then become an echo chamber for someone else rather than being able to express their own opinion?

Does an opinion only have value if you can quote from a scientific study?

I'll take an opinion based on actual lived experience over the ability to read a book any day of the week.

"
an opinion is just that it can't be graded it shouldn't be shredded its just an opinion based on that person's experience it may not be factually accurate but its still an opinion

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By *ealitybitesMan
42 weeks ago

Belfast


"I asked a similar question on here a few weeks ago about the value of an individuals opinion and whether or not people respected opinions that were based on lived experience?

The point I was making was that my experiences of certain situations or people are different to others so obviously I will form a different opinion which is equally valid.

My thread was triggered by people who may be more well read than I am but were challenging my opinions despite the events in question taking place in a country they had never set foot in and 10-20 years before they were born.

If I remember correctly I asked why so many people reference articles or papers to back up their opinion on various topics?

Do they not then become an echo chamber for someone else rather than being able to express their own opinion?

Does an opinion only have value if you can quote from a scientific study?

I'll take an opinion based on actual lived experience over the ability to read a book any day of the week.

If you think that quoting high qualify peer-reviewed research means you’re perpetuating an “echo chamber” then you fundamentally don’t understand what that entails."

That's your opinion. It's not mine.

I'm not talking solely about medical research.

I'm talking about self help books and quoting from biographies when people are trying to hammer home a point.

Papers written by learned people and peer reviewed by others who didn't actually experience a particular event but had the ability to correlate information given to them by others and chose to only give one side of the story.

To give an example.

I spoke here about my experiences where I grew up.

I was challenged on those by people who had read something different on the internet or social media.

I was told they couldn't possibly have happened and yet the fact remains that they did and I wasn't the only one to experience them.

I offered an opinion on a different thread based on those particular experiences and was advised to go and read a particular article if I really wanted to understand why and how these things didn't happen.

My question at the time was why I would need to read something that was going to tell me that my experiences were completely without value just because someone in their 30s said so?

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Of course you’re allowed an opinion. And my opinion is you’re wrong. … "
oh no I'm not

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By *ymAndIcedCoffeeWoman
42 weeks ago

Worcester


"

My question at the time was why I would need to read something that was going to tell me that my experiences were completely without value just because someone in their 30s said so?

"

Would it have been better if it was someone in their seventies?

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By *ealitybitesMan
42 weeks ago

Belfast


"

My question at the time was why I would need to read something that was going to tell me that my experiences were completely without value just because someone in their 30s said so?

Would it have been better if it was someone in their seventies?"

Not if they were telling me that my opinion was bs and weren't prepared to accept that it had any value because they had read something different.

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By *affeine DuskMan
42 weeks ago

Caerphilly

Agree, soup is cool.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

This will always be fractious because people on Fab and in the pub attach their personal values to their opinion. Thus it feels an attack on one's values when disagreed with.

There is a theory that neurodiverse people are much less likely to do this, which I tend to agree with.

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By *onameyet2Man
42 weeks ago

chorley


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub."

This says it all, educate yourself but not from journalists or idiots on Tik Tok

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By *ymAndIcedCoffeeWoman
42 weeks ago

Worcester


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

This says it all, educate yourself but not from journalists or idiots on Tik Tok"

Of course, often journalists are literal experts in their field.

But why would we listen to experts?

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By *ellhungvweMan
42 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub."

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

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By *erry bull1Man
42 weeks ago

doncaster

I thought it was a thread about onions

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By *onameyet2Man
42 weeks ago

chorley

Onion soup I think?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

This says it all, educate yourself but not from journalists or idiots on Tik Tok"

You know that there are experts in their field on TikTok right?

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat."

A diagnosis is not a guess.

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Onion soup I think?"
really?

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By *exymarvelMan
42 weeks ago

cardiff

Some are based on fact and research, some are based on their aunty doris's facebook. At the time they are all uniquely valid to the individual. Over time some become more valid others fade. We are all different and life would be boring if we were all the same.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
42 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

No

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"No"
concise and objective as always

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By *essaMayWoman
42 weeks ago

Fairytale Wood


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub."

But opinions are subjective, though they may appear to be grounded in reality, who's reality?

All opinions are equal. Opinions are based on what people perceived as the truth and their truth based on their own understanding, misunderstanding biases etc. Dependent on on what basis were formed, and the criteria that was used form them

If an opinion was based pure fact and data. It is no longer an opinion.

The analogy of the heart surgeon, yes knowledge, experience and study would lead us to that heart surgeon, but they get it wrong. Dave down the pub may be a heart surgeon also, may be a a better heart surgeon. But we have made assumption he's just dave down the pub because we have no other criteria to decide otherwise.

So all opinions are equal unless they are validated by fact and impirical data, then they are nolonger an opinion.

Takes a breath

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By *parkle1974Woman
42 weeks ago

Leeds

If it's a subject I've experienced then yes, I'll give my opinion. If others don't agree that's fine, they probably haven't lived it...swings and roundabouts. As quoted once

"An opinion is like an arsehole, everyone has one"

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"If it's a subject I've experienced then yes, I'll give my opinion. If others don't agree that's fine, they probably haven't lived it...swings and roundabouts. As quoted once

"An opinion is like an arsehole, everyone has one" "
omg and gives reference to some not all talking shite

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By *otsossieMan
42 weeks ago

Chesterfield


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks."

Entirely this.

If you want to have an opinion that gravity is made up and we stick to the ground with glue then that’s fine, just don’t expect anyone else to agree or take you seriously.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

No I think what makes you less of an expert on it is less engagement with it- less reading on it, less experience of it etc

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"No I think what makes you less of an expert on it is less engagement with it- less reading on it, less experience of it etc "

University of life can only take you so far. At some point you have to do the work

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Just because you don't solicit an opinion does that mean you're not allowed to give one, if you don't believe in something you've had pushed down your throat does that make you any less of an expert on it? I love fresh soup but just because you love tinned should i scorn you?

No Fred you should embrace and respect my opinions on soup but you imho don’t have to share my soup based opinion.

All opinions are valid to the person holding that opinion but we as individuals don’t have to agree with others.

T"
exactly my point

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
42 weeks ago

Cumbria

Yes, some opinions are worth more than others.

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By *ellhungvweMan
42 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

A diagnosis is not a guess. "

I am guessing you have never had a second opinion then. Diagnoses are often guesses.

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By *he turned me GreyCouple
42 weeks ago

Warwick and Coventry

Opinions are like arseholes we all have one....

Mr

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By *apiomanMan
42 weeks ago

Shipley

It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Yes, some opinions are worth more than others."
You love your opinion don't you, i can tell

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
42 weeks ago

kent


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

But opinions are subjective, though they may appear to be grounded in reality, who's reality?

All opinions are equal. Opinions are based on what people perceived as the truth and their truth based on their own understanding, misunderstanding biases etc. Dependent on on what basis were formed, and the criteria that was used form them

If an opinion was based pure fact and data. It is no longer an opinion.

The analogy of the heart surgeon, yes knowledge, experience and study would lead us to that heart surgeon, but they get it wrong. Dave down the pub may be a heart surgeon also, may be a a better heart surgeon. But we have made assumption he's just dave down the pub because we have no other criteria to decide otherwise.

So all opinions are equal unless they are validated by fact and impirical data, then they are nolonger an opinion.

Takes a breath "

A well earned breath Lots to like in your thoughts here Xx

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
42 weeks ago

Cumbria


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

A diagnosis is not a guess.

I am guessing you have never had a second opinion then. Diagnoses are often guesses. "

Diagnoses are decisions made on the weight of evidence, they are not always correct but they are not guesses.

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By *mf123Man
42 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

The only opinion that matters really is your own can it be changed yes but then that becomes your own too

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
42 weeks ago

BRIDPORT


"

So all opinions are equal unless they are validated by fact and impirical data, then they are nolonger an opinion.

Takes a breath "

The same impirical data and ‘facts’ can be interpreted in different ways by different people to arrive at different opinions, all those opinions will be of equal merit.

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By *onameyet2Man
42 weeks ago

chorley


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!"

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you

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By *illan-KillashMan
42 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

^^ This.

People who think that their layman’s opinion about a subject should carry the same weight as an experts opinion are not the sharpest tool in the box."

You not visited the Fab Virus Forum or any Flat Earth discussion groups have you....

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By *ellhungvweMan
42 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

A diagnosis is not a guess.

I am guessing you have never had a second opinion then. Diagnoses are often guesses.

Diagnoses are decisions made on the weight of evidence, they are not always correct but they are not guesses."

The caveat in my original comment was “as much as anything else” - the point is that a medical diagnosis is an opinion. A Dr will almost always be very confident in their opinion (that is trained into them) but their blind spot is that they often only see the world through the lens of their speciality - “If all you have is a hammer then everything is a nail” springs to mind.

A Dr will be able to show lots of diagnostic reason as to why their opinion is correct but often they are not because they are diagnosing is from the wrong viewpoint. However you want to phrase that, at the end of the day, it is little more than a guess. An educated guess but educated from the wrong book.

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago

Yes

Not all opinions should be listened too

Every idiot can have an opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
42 weeks ago


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

A diagnosis is not a guess.

I am guessing you have never had a second opinion then. Diagnoses are often guesses.

Diagnoses are decisions made on the weight of evidence, they are not always correct but they are not guesses."

Saved me from replying!

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you "
You're on FAB all opinions have to be treated with respect its in the rules

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
42 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Noconcise and objective as always "

It's like this Fred......

'Is one opinion more worthy than another?'

Before I even began to consider answering this I would need more information.

e.g Worthy of what ? What do you mean by the word worthy? In what context and by whom is this worth being bestowed ? Do you mean in simple subjective matters of preference e.g. personal taste be that in beer or wallpaper? Or are you asking about something that would require a highly objective response ?

I'm pretty sure the worth bestowed on any opinion given pretty much depends on the recipients point of view or at very best the recipients ability to see things from another's perspective without necessarily agreeing or disagreeing.

That......... or no - You choose

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By *parkle1974Woman
42 weeks ago

Leeds


"Not all opinions are equal. Some are grounded in reality and based upon understanding of issues. And some are just bollocks. Which is why you get your heart surgery done by the guy at the hospital who has studied it for years, instead of having it done by Dave from the pub.

Except you often get a second opinion because different guys at the hospital give you different opinions because their diagnosis is often a guess as much as anything else - they just wrap it up in confidence and a white coat.

A diagnosis is not a guess.

I am guessing you have never had a second opinion then. Diagnoses are often guesses.

Diagnoses are decisions made on the weight of evidence, they are not always correct but they are not guesses.

The caveat in my original comment was “as much as anything else” - the point is that a medical diagnosis is an opinion. A Dr will almost always be very confident in their opinion (that is trained into them) but their blind spot is that they often only see the world through the lens of their speciality - “If all you have is a hammer then everything is a nail” springs to mind.

A Dr will be able to show lots of diagnostic reason as to why their opinion is correct but often they are not because they are diagnosing is from the wrong viewpoint. However you want to phrase that, at the end of the day, it is little more than a guess. An educated guess but educated from the wrong book."

Even Dr's get it wrong which I found out to my detriment over the weekend!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
42 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you "

What does respect mean to you ?

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By *allandathleticMan
42 weeks ago

Asgard

Opinions can be changed, therefore one doesn't supercede the other.

Facts, however, cannot be changed.

I prefer to base my opinion on facts and very rarely am I forthcoming with an opinion unless it adds value to a debate.

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By *essaMayWoman
42 weeks ago

Fairytale Wood

Just to throw a curveball, have to admit it has been one of the more engaging threads. But is there a destinct difference between a credible opinion and a valid opinion.

We determine what in out minds is credible and what isn't, that doesn't make another opinion less value. We do that, goes back to my earlier post.

A doctors opinion is in essence a guess, educated guess at best based on thier own knowledge, understanding, experience, interpretation. Like anyone elses it could be a credible opinion but necessarily a valid one.

As we have seen though the posts, people have opinions, myself included. We also use miss-information, selective data, assumptions and fallacy to back up our opinions to make seem more credible and give the impression we are a more credible source of opinions than others. But others opinions may effectively more valid and based on better data.

Molly lost £50,000 because she believed someone else's opinions were more credible, but was based only false information oh and she fancied him. Sorry traiters fan.

People try to give their opinions credits and devalue others in order to gain something. Doesnt make anyone elses opinion less value ot less credible onthe criteria/emotions/beliefs we apply to them

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By *apiomanMan
42 weeks ago

Shipley


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you "

It's about respecting the person even when we disagree with them. I can disagree with them but I should still respect their opinion. We might disagree. We might argue. But we can still be respectful.

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By *olfandtazCouple
42 weeks ago

Bristol

The art of being wise is knowing what to ignore.

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42 weeks ago

Mate I've just spent roughly an hour trying to answer this and it got too philosophical inside my head, thats maybe because I'm very tired and have confused my own little brain.

I'll revisit this after sleep.

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Just to throw a curveball, have to admit it has been one of the more engaging threads. But is there a destinct difference between a credible opinion and a valid opinion.

We determine what in out minds is credible and what isn't, that doesn't make another opinion less value. We do that, goes back to my earlier post.

A doctors opinion is in essence a guess, educated guess at best based on thier own knowledge, understanding, experience, interpretation. Like anyone elses it could be a credible opinion but necessarily a valid one.

As we have seen though the posts, people have opinions, myself included. We also use miss-information, selective data, assumptions and fallacy to back up our opinions to make seem more credible and give the impression we are a more credible source of opinions than others. But others opinions may effectively more valid and based on better data.

Molly lost £50,000 because she believed someone else's opinions were more credible, but was based only false information oh and she fancied him. Sorry traiters fan.

People try to give their opinions credits and devalue others in order to gain something. Doesnt make anyone elses opinion less value ot less credible onthe criteria/emotions/beliefs we apply to them "
exactly and they try and demean others opinions but quite simply you can't argue with my opinion and i can't argue with yours if we worked on that premise forums would be so lovely don't you think?

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester

Oh and glad you loved my thought provoking thread

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"The art of being wise is knowing what to ignore. "
this is an especially great reply

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Noconcise and objective as always

It's like this Fred......

'Is one opinion more worthy than another?'

Before I even began to consider answering this I would need more information.

e.g Worthy of what ? What do you mean by the word worthy? In what context and by whom is this worth being bestowed ? Do you mean in simple subjective matters of preference e.g. personal taste be that in beer or wallpaper? Or are you asking about something that would require a highly objective response ?

I'm pretty sure the worth bestowed on any opinion given pretty much depends on the recipients point of view or at very best the recipients ability to see things from another's perspective without necessarily agreeing or disagreeing.

That......... or no - You choose

"
Well Granny as usual a very concise analogy but its just an opinion mine, his, hers based on experience, based on fact based on here say

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By *rMojoRisinMan
42 weeks ago

Sheffield

Yup, next question!

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
42 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Depends.

"I think x is the best sexual thing I've ever done." "Really? I didn't enjoy x at all, I think y is the best sexual thing ever." Both opinions, both of equal worth.

"I think x is true despite it being repeatedly scientifically proven to be false multiple times over with peer review." "I hate all y people because they're all z and q." Technically also opinions, but value is reduced by the deliberate ignorance of fact or the hateful nature.

Or that's my opinion of them anyway

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By *onameyet2Man
42 weeks ago

chorley


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you

It's about respecting the person even when we disagree with them. I can disagree with them but I should still respect their opinion. We might disagree. We might argue. But we can still be respectful. "

You have to know someone to respect them, it’s earned

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By *onameyet2Man
42 weeks ago

chorley


"Opinions can be changed, therefore one doesn't supercede the other.

Facts, however, cannot be changed.

I prefer to base my opinion on facts and very rarely am I forthcoming with an opinion unless it adds value to a debate."

Wish I could do this, I keep getting my arse kicked on here for engaging gob before brain

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Depends.

"I think x is the best sexual thing I've ever done." "Really? I didn't enjoy x at all, I think y is the best sexual thing ever." Both opinions, both of equal worth.

"I think x is true despite it being repeatedly scientifically proven to be false multiple times over with peer review." "I hate all y people because they're all z and q." Technically also opinions, but value is reduced by the deliberate ignorance of fact or the hateful nature.

Or that's my opinion of them anyway "
i your opinion

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
42 weeks ago

kent


"Depends.

"I think x is the best sexual thing I've ever done." "Really? I didn't enjoy x at all, I think y is the best sexual thing ever." Both opinions, both of equal worth.

"I think x is true despite it being repeatedly scientifically proven to be false multiple times over with peer review." "I hate all y people because they're all z and q." Technically also opinions, but value is reduced by the deliberate ignorance of fact or the hateful nature.

Or that's my opinion of them anyway "

I tried to write a response to this thread yesterday, but I gave up, partly because I couldn’t find the right words to say what I meant, and partly because I was worried that my ‘opinion’ might upset someone else. I’m glad I did, because you have nailed precisely what I wanted to say Xx

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"Opinions can be changed, therefore one doesn't supercede the other.

Facts, however, cannot be changed.

I prefer to base my opinion on facts and very rarely am I forthcoming with an opinion unless it adds value to a debate.

Wish I could do this, I keep getting my arse kicked on here for engaging gob before brain "
good to get your arse kicked once in a while

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By *ris Gray OP   Man
42 weeks ago

Dorchester


"It's about being respectful of other people's opinions. Just because someone doesn't think the same way as I do doesn't mean that I have to dismiss them as people.

I prefer opinions where the person has given it some thought rather than parroting those of others.

I also like it when people's opinions surprise me. I know a guy who generally fitted into the 'woke lefty' mind set but was a massive Brexit fan. Disagreed with him but it was refreshing!

No one HAS to “respect” anything, you can have your opinion but I will decide if I respect it or not thank you

What does respect mean to you ? "
to me it means a lot to someone i know, to some it means damn all

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