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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? " Is it so damaging to the story that the dog's name was changed? Does it change the outcome? Does it change your viewing experience? Why is this such a difficult thing for you? Gbat | |||
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"....but that word has been widely accepted as abhorrent ......" Somebody seems to have forgotten to inform the Hiphop brigade | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? Is it so damaging to the story that the dog's name was changed? Does it change the outcome? Does it change your viewing experience? Why is this such a difficult thing for you? Gbat " Gbat, I was just a little discombobulated that the 'original' film I was watching had been changed. If you extrapolate this to all aspects of life, then we will all just follow the leader, who ever this may be.... Just pondering  | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? " It's the world post 1955? So, yes? | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist. "To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion | |||
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"is this the new world we live in!?!? I was just a little discombobulated that the 'original' film I was watching had been changed. If you extrapolate this to all aspects of life, then we will all just follow the leader, who ever this may be.... Just pondering "Do you think changing films/stories/songs is a new thing then? How does changing a film make the "changer" into a leader? I'm not following your argument. Gbat | |||
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"is this the new world we live in!?!? I was just a little discombobulated that the 'original' film I was watching had been changed. If you extrapolate this to all aspects of life, then we will all just follow the leader, who ever this may be.... Just pondering
Do you think changing films/stories/songs is a new thing then?
How does changing a film make the "changer" into a leader? I'm not following your argument.
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"....but that word has been widely accepted as abhorrent ...... Somebody seems to have forgotten to inform the Hiphop brigade" That’s a valid point and one I often think about when I hear its use in one of those new rap songs. I know the argument is that it’s reclaiming the word and changing the meaning so it’s no longer rooted in sl@very. It’s still a horrid word that should be consigned to history and that means we all stop using it. That won’t happen until ever in the world feels we have true equality and clearly there are thousands, if not millions, of the black community that still feel the need to make a stand. | |||
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"History is important, the name of the dog in this story isn't a major (or even minor) component of importance. If it was lost for ever in the mists of time, I don't think too many people would be that bothered. Except the continuously outraged. I'm often amused by how many people are "outraged" by what they perceive as "snowflake" behaviour. Gbat " Not sure who mentioned outraged?!?! Just a simple pondering... Anyway that's me out kiss | |||
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"History is important, the name of the dog in this story isn't a major (or even minor) component of importance. If it was lost for ever in the mists of time, I don't think too many people would be that bothered. Except the continuously outraged. I'm often amused by how many people are "outraged" by what they perceive as "snowflake" behaviour. Gbat Not sure who mentioned outraged?!?! Just a simple pondering... Anyway that's me out kiss" Why go to the bother of creating a thread then? Did you not like the answers?... Simple one - they changed the dogs name because now in 2024, it is considered racist (because, well it is), it's not rewriting history. If anything I know from young folk regarding learning about history. The name of a dog in 1955, is legitimately the very least of issues | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. " Is there a family story about the dog? It seems that the dog is central to all this. Gbat | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? " Does it really matter? I have it on DVD and nothing as changed on there. These days if you want to watch anything as it was originally made then buy the DVD. | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Is there a family story about the dog? It seems that the dog is central to all this. Gbat " Yes. My grandparents also had a black Labrador with the same name when they lived in Singapore. | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Is there a family story about the dog? It seems that the dog is central to all this. Gbat " There is quite an important story about the dog | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Is there a family story about the dog? It seems that the dog is central to all this. Gbat There is quite an important story about the dog "THEY KILLED THE DOG. | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Is there a family story about the dog? It seems that the dog is central to all this. Gbat There is quite an important story about the dog
THEY KILLED THE DOG."Stop it. Nothing worse than the dog dying | |||
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"Forgive me if my 1950s memory is letting me down but wasn't the dog's name going to be used as a code word on the R/T during the raid, denoting successful destruction? What was the code word replaced with in the expurgated version?" Same as the dogs new name if I remember. Not a big deal | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. " Lady Curvaceous might be amused (given her Fab handle)to learn what a 'Gibson Girl' was and, especially why, as a piece of survival equipment carried on a plane, it was so called! | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. " I visited his grave when I was living in the Netherlands a few years ago. | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Lady Curvaceous might be amused (given her Fab handle)to learn what a 'Gibson Girl' was and, especially why, as a piece of survival equipment carried on a plane, it was so called!" Very aware that a Gibson Girl was a voluptuous woman. Wasn't it a radio transmitter? | |||
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"Guy Gibson is my great uncle. Lady Curvaceous might be amused (given her Fab handle)to learn what a 'Gibson Girl' was and, especially why, as a piece of survival equipment carried on a plane, it was so called! Very aware that a Gibson Girl was a voluptuous woman. Wasn't it a radio transmitter? " Yes. It was a survival radio shaped like a curvaceous lady! | |||
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"Indeed some interesting replies that reinforce the thought that sadly things do not change very much. As 1 word is erased others replace it, as someone who has mixed heritage I find it difficult to believe that merely changing a word will eradicate disgraceful behaviour" Of course it won't but it can be one step in a very big process. Gbat | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion "Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour"I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered. | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? " If the dog was called “Cuntface” they’d also have changed the name. The word is offensive nowadays and the fucking dogs name doesn’t really change the story or take away from what was achieved does it? | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered."Well said. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said."I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever."Does it really fucking matter? It’s racist now so changing the dogs name was an obvious thing to do. Why does the name of someone’s dog matter so much to you? Please don’t gimme some shite about historical accuracy. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever."I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling? | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever."Sure thing, Andy. I understand the Latin derivation, but you know as well as I do that by the 1940s it was a racial slur and no more (forgive me if the nature of this thread was about usage in the 17th Century). You feel free to use the word all you want, with no derogatory intent whatsoever, obviously. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does. "It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour? | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever."I'm 'white', beyond a pale skinned white girl. My heritage is not, my siblings are not. The number of times I have heard casual racist comments in daily life, given my white skinned/faced presentation? I could seriously eat your hat for breakfast several times a week 
And I'm white, and I get zero shit in daily life about the colour of my skin. So, take your opinion, and well... | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour? "I don’t use it at all. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
I don’t use it at all."Well that's a relief. | |||
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"Also a riot that saying the n-word is racist is about displaying "PC credentials". I save those for when I ask you all to refer to the Winter Festival rather than Christmas...
(This is a joke. I'd better add this as I worry for some forum users' blood pressure)"I thought PC credentials were your username and password. Feel free to share any that would benefit me | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour? "Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate. The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate.
The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people. "Well I think we can all agree that context is everything. The question must be then, is the dog’s name offensive? Or are we all just so turned off by a word that is very offensive in modern times. Personally, I don’t think Guy Gibson called the dog this to be offensive. This was a dog that he and all the squadrons loved. It was the squadrons mascot. The dog’s grave is at RAF Scampton, although the RAF have removed his name from the stone. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
I don’t use it at all.
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate.
The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people.
Well I think we can all agree that context is everything.
The question must be then, is the dog’s name offensive? Or are we all just so turned off by a word that is very offensive in modern times.
Personally, I don’t think Guy Gibson called the dog this to be offensive. This was a dog that he and all the squadrons loved. It was the squadrons mascot.
The dog’s grave is at RAF Scampton, although the RAF have removed his name from the stone.
"Yes, they removed the name because it was a name given in it's 'time'. I'm not sure what you're not getting from that?... I'm 44,nearly 45, I dated an Asian heritage guy for 18mth in my late teens, my grandma called him my '**** boy'  ... But that's cool, because she was her 80's? I was completely mortified..like a normal person, I just told her you cannot say that ffs. And unsurprisingly she apologised and that was the end of it | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate.
The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people.
Well I think we can all agree that context is everything.
The question must be then, is the dog’s name offensive? Or are we all just so turned off by a word that is very offensive in modern times.
Personally, I don’t think Guy Gibson called the dog this to be offensive. This was a dog that he and all the squadrons loved. It was the squadrons mascot.
The dog’s grave is at RAF Scampton, although the RAF have removed his name from the stone.
Yes, they removed the name because it was a name given in it's 'time'. I'm not sure what you're not getting from that?... I'm 44,nearly 45, I dated an Asian heritage guy for 18mth in my late teens, my grandma called him my '**** boy' ... But that's cool, because she was her 80's? I was completely mortified..like a normal person, I just told her you cannot say that ffs. And unsurprisingly she apologised and that was the end of it"That is a very good example of your personal experience. Consider this. You’ve told me a story that happened over 30 years ago. Now change the offensive word to something less offensive, let’s say “pretty boy” Does that change the whole context of your story? I corrected your earlier post because you were incorrect in the words historical meaning, that was all. | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate.
The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people.
Well I think we can all agree that context is everything.
The question must be then, is the dog’s name offensive? Or are we all just so turned off by a word that is very offensive in modern times.
Personally, I don’t think Guy Gibson called the dog this to be offensive. This was a dog that he and all the squadrons loved. It was the squadrons mascot.
The dog’s grave is at RAF Scampton, although the RAF have removed his name from the stone.
Yes, they removed the name because it was a name given in it's 'time'. I'm not sure what you're not getting from that?... I'm 44,nearly 45, I dated an Asian heritage guy for 18mth in my late teens, my grandma called him my '**** boy' ... But that's cool, because she was her 80's? I was completely mortified..like a normal person, I just told her you cannot say that ffs. And unsurprisingly she apologised and that was the end of it
That is a very good example of your personal experience.
Consider this. You’ve told me a story that happened over 30 years ago. Now change the offensive word to something less offensive, let’s say “pretty boy”
Does that change the whole context of your story?
I corrected your earlier post because you were incorrect in the words historical meaning, that was all. "Well this was around 17yrs ago, so not fairly near 30yrs? But yeah, folk were still racist bastards then, and still unfortunately now are sadly... Historically it was canny shit, and in 2024 it's still pretty shit today?. And nah, didn't really change the fact she knew he was Chinese? 
I mean if he'd been another ethnic group, it might change the story? But he wasn't, and that was kinda my point? | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever." | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the word doesn't mean black? I'm sure the word black means black? It doesn't need extra letters added to the end? Or are you hard of spelling?
It really does.
It did. In Latin. Do you still use it to refer to the colour?
Negro is the Spanish word for black. It is used to describe the colour black every day of the week. The difference being it is not (in the Spanish language) a slur or inappropriate.
The 'n' word referred to in the OP might have its root in the word "negro" but n***** is definitely a slur and completely inappropriate. There are other words used that can both be descriptive but also used as slurs e.g. gay - it might describe the sexual orientation of people, but can also be used in a different way to try and offend or upset people.
Well I think we can all agree that context is everything.
The question must be then, is the dog’s name offensive? Or are we all just so turned off by a word that is very offensive in modern times.
Personally, I don’t think Guy Gibson called the dog this to be offensive. This was a dog that he and all the squadrons loved. It was the squadrons mascot.
The dog’s grave is at RAF Scampton, although the RAF have removed his name from the stone.
Yes, they removed the name because it was a name given in it's 'time'. I'm not sure what you're not getting from that?... I'm 44,nearly 45, I dated an Asian heritage guy for 18mth in my late teens, my grandma called him my '**** boy' ... But that's cool, because she was her 80's? I was completely mortified..like a normal person, I just told her you cannot say that ffs. And unsurprisingly she apologised and that was the end of it
That is a very good example of your personal experience.
Consider this. You’ve told me a story that happened over 30 years ago. Now change the offensive word to something less offensive, let’s say “pretty boy”
Does that change the whole context of your story?
I corrected your earlier post because you were incorrect in the words historical meaning, that was all.
Well this was around 17yrs ago, so not fairly near 30yrs? But yeah, folk were still racist bastards then, and still unfortunately now are sadly... Historically it was canny shit, and in 2024 it's still pretty shit today?. And nah, didn't really change the fact she knew he was Chinese?
I mean if he'd been another ethnic group, it might change the story? But he wasn't, and that was kinda my point? "So you are 44. Nearly 45. 17 years ago you would have been 27, nearly 28. That’s not your late teens. But by changing the slur in your story to something that wasn’t offensive would have altered the whole context of your story. | |||
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"I feel that being concerned that an offensive term has been changed out is very much a first world problem. The film is about the smashing of the dams. Not the dog. In some of the shots there are Avro Lincolns in the background, but no one complains about that not being historically accurate. " Yes, Lincoln’s did not fly until a year after that raid. This happens a lot in movies, especially with vehicles being incorrect models for the time. | |||
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"it's a horrible word. it's been removed from the headstone of his grave too. the word dies not belong in any white persons mouth.if the hip-hop brigade as was mentioned earlier they get a pass. this really isn't difficult people." Sorry I don't agree,I understand why the hip hop brigade use the word "taking it for their own terminology" however if we ever want to see this word disappear completely then there should be no exceptions,all this does by allowing it in music lyrics is confuse people who think it's acceptable and keep the word in the public ear. If they can edit it from a historical account of something that happened during ww2 then it should also be edited from all rap and hip hop music and artists should be encouraged to stop using it and consigning it to history. | |||
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"it's a horrible word. it's been removed from the headstone of his grave too. the word dies not belong in any white persons mouth.if the hip-hop brigade as was mentioned earlier they get a pass. this really isn't difficult people. Sorry I don't agree,I understand why the hip hop brigade use the word "taking it for their own terminology" however if we ever want to see this word disappear completely then there should be no exceptions,all this does by allowing it in music lyrics is confuse people who think it's acceptable and keep the word in the public ear. If they can edit it from a historical account of something that happened during ww2 then it should also be edited from all rap and hip hop music and artists should be encouraged to stop using it and consigning it to history." Yes but that would require realising that they can make a difference which a lot of people don’t want to acknowledge.This is why conspiracy theories are so popular | |||
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"All I have to say is it was a commonly used for black dogs and was never ment to be racist.
To be fair, I doubt that's 100% true really? It was no doubt a name associated with dogs/cats, of the time. But the reference was always there still. Hence the name, connetation. And why you no longer hear it called in your local park... Casual racism made it seem acceptable at that time possibly, as it wouldn't have been called out. But, yep name change now (oh the horror ). Because it's not acceptable, which is as it should not be. Language is such a powerful thing, if we gloss over it, it's a downward spiral in my humble opinion
Sorry I disagree it never had racist connotations it was just naming an animal due to it's fur colour
I hate to break it to you, but that word has always been racist, pet name or otherwise. Being used commonly didn't make it any less racist; it just meant people didn't think the feelings of those it affected mattered.
Well said.
I hate to break it to you but that word has NOT always been racist.That is a modern interpretation of one of many meanings.An interpretation that has reached acceptance as the one and only meaning,past and present.Read history before trying to change it to flash your PC credentials,and you will find many black ethnic groups/tribes referred to themselves as Nigars/Negars/Negroes(various spellings) as a matter of pride and ethnic distinction from others.The word also meant, quite simply,the colour black without any ethnic context or racist derogatory intent whatsoever."So so totally agree even today they use it. Do we moan about calling someone whitey at the end of the day it was just a name given to a dog because he had black fur with no racism involved | |||
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). Mrs even got fucked in there a few years ago.
I'm pretty sure that Gibson and Co's flight path on the final run would have taken them right over it.
If only they knew.
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"A point of interest, nothing to do with the dog. The Mohnersee is a very big reservoir and the old dam is still there. There is also a nudist beach on the lakeside which is commonly known as "Pornostrand" It has woods behind and is quite a popular dogging venue (oh I suppose it has got something to do with the dog ). Mrs even got fucked in there a few years ago.
I'm pretty sure that Gibson and Co's flight path on the final run would have taken them right over it.
If only they knew.
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"while changing the name of the dog is not important. messing with history to make it fit modern attitudes is a slippery slope, we get on ok with the Germans now & are no longer on the same side as Russia, so do you change the targets in the film??? " No, because that would change the entire premise of the film and it would no longer be based on real events. Changing the dog's name by one letter doesn't change the involvement of the dog or its influence on its owner etc. | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? If the dog was called “Cuntface” they’d also have changed the name. The word is offensive nowadays and the fucking dogs name doesn’t really change the story or take away from what was achieved does it?" What a coincidence our dog is called cuntface | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? If the dog was called “Cuntface” they’d also have changed the name. The word is offensive nowadays and the fucking dogs name doesn’t really change the story or take away from what was achieved does it? What a coincidence our dog is called cuntface " Bad news, your dog is unlikely to star in the Dambusters remake. unless they change its name | |||
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"....but that word has been widely accepted as abhorrent ...... Somebody seems to have forgotten to inform the Hiphop brigade" Yup, only that lot are immune from being racist, sexist, homophobic etc. complaining about this fact is racist. | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? If the dog was called “Cuntface” they’d also have changed the name. The word is offensive nowadays and the fucking dogs name doesn’t really change the story or take away from what was achieved does it? What a coincidence our dog is called cuntface Bad news, your dog is unlikely to star in the Dambusters remake. unless they change its name "Ok changed it to knobhead any chance of a part now | |||
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"Watching the 1955 dambusters film tonight, seems the dog has changed it's name from the last time I watched it .....is this the new world we live in!?!? If the dog was called “Cuntface” they’d also have changed the name. The word is offensive nowadays and the fucking dogs name doesn’t really change the story or take away from what was achieved does it? What a coincidence our dog is called cuntface Bad news, your dog is unlikely to star in the Dambusters remake. unless they change its name
Ok changed it to knobhead any chance of a part now "Maybe an extra. Can’t promise a speaking part though. Unless your dog fancies a role as a stunt double? We need a stunt dog to get hit by a car just before 617 Sqn head off on the raid. Would he be willing to do blackface? | |||
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"As a side note. Netflix has removed episodes of certain shows mainly comedy one's that have been deemed offensive some of these shows are only a few years old, community being one. Always sunny in Philadelphia has episodes missing although I don't know which ones they refer to. Ten years from now all TV and films will just be diluted bland mind numbingly boring over woke garbage,are we heading towards a day when something is released one day and the next it's censored? Obviously this is a far cry from the dog's name as yes that's offensive. " Is it mind numbingly boring not to have racist language/words in a film? I doubt things are removed unless they contain something particularly unpleasant, such as the 'n' word. I manage to get my entertainment quite easily without such content. We don't have Netflix either! | |||
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"Just as well that the dog's name wasn't subsequently changed to 'Digger', or we would be faced by lots of deeply offended Australians!" Why? It's not an offensive word in Australia nor ever has been. | |||
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"As a side note. Netflix has removed episodes of certain shows mainly comedy one's that have been deemed offensive some of these shows are only a few years old, community being one. Always sunny in Philadelphia has episodes missing although I don't know which ones they refer to. Ten years from now all TV and films will just be diluted bland mind numbingly boring over woke garbage,are we heading towards a day when something is released one day and the next it's censored? Obviously this is a far cry from the dog's name as yes that's offensive. Is it mind numbingly boring not to have racist language/words in a film? I doubt things are removed unless they contain something particularly unpleasant, such as the 'n' word. I manage to get my entertainment quite easily without such content. We don't have Netflix either!" Your twisting what I said slightly obviously obnoxious racism isn't funny and never has been but surely there's a way to tackle such subjects using humour but without being offensive using it as a tool to educate with being patronising and condescending. Sorry really gone off the thread subject this is a discussion for a different thread perhaps. | |||
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"As a side note. Netflix has removed episodes of certain shows mainly comedy one's that have been deemed offensive some of these shows are only a few years old, community being one. Always sunny in Philadelphia has episodes missing although I don't know which ones they refer to. Ten years from now all TV and films will just be diluted bland mind numbingly boring over woke garbage,are we heading towards a day when something is released one day and the next it's censored? Obviously this is a far cry from the dog's name as yes that's offensive. Is it mind numbingly boring not to have racist language/words in a film? I doubt things are removed unless they contain something particularly unpleasant, such as the 'n' word. I manage to get my entertainment quite easily without such content. We don't have Netflix either! Your twisting what I said slightly obviously obnoxious racism isn't funny and never has been but surely there's a way to tackle such subjects using humour but without being offensive using it as a tool to educate with being patronising and condescending. Sorry really gone off the thread subject this is a discussion for a different thread perhaps." Without knowing what content you believe has been removed from other media, it's hard to comment. This thread is about the removal of a racially motivated slur from the name of an animal in a film, hence my using of that example. I'd be happy to discuss other examples if brought to my attention | |||
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"Just as well that the dog's name wasn't subsequently changed to 'Digger', or we would be faced by lots of deeply offended Australians! Why? It's not an offensive word in Australia nor ever has been. " Jeez! It was meant to be a joke. If jokes are allowed on po-faced Fab. You never know though. It could become an offensive term for Australians at some time in the future. Times change. | |||
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"Just as well that the dog's name wasn't subsequently changed to 'Digger', or we would be faced by lots of deeply offended Australians! Why? It's not an offensive word in Australia nor ever has been. Jeez! It was meant to be a joke. If jokes are allowed on po-faced Fab. You never know though. It could become an offensive term for Australians at some time in the future. Times change." Your jokes are hard to spot | |||
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