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"Which one is the sub smug or prick" To be fair, it's more SM than DS. | |||
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"If the female is the dom Dick and Dom" Booooooooooogggghiiiiieeeeeeessss | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. " Oooh I like that. Henceforth, you shall be nothing. Zero. | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. " That's not being a dom that's abusive and I'm fed up of people like you giving the LS a bad name. Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive because they choose to be submissives not treated with a number and dehumanised absolute joker | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. That's not being a dom that's abusive and I'm fed up of people like you giving the LS a bad name. Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive because they choose to be submissives not treated with a number and dehumanised absolute joker " I think you need to calm down. I don't appreciate being attacked. Did you not here about the old saying "sticks and stones, but names never hurt". It's role play! Changing names is about taking on a role. I like letters and number, some like to call themselves by other words or names e.g. worm, slut... I prefer initials (men in black style) This is not unheard of and is written in various text from different Authors. And at what point did I mention the submissive didn't get a say in it!!! At what point did i say that SSC and RACK were not employed, were safety was paramount, and aftercare essential. Take it down a notch next time and think before you write. | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. That's not being a dom that's abusive and I'm fed up of people like you giving the LS a bad name. Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive because they choose to be submissives not treated with a number and dehumanised absolute joker " ...Wow. It's not my kind of play, but there's plenty of people who happily and safely do play that way. If the bottom enjoys that humiliation and degradation aspect, which many do, then it's all good | |||
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"What's yours I need ideas lol " I used to call him Arse a lot, as he was. I was princess Different person, it's now beautiful or gorgeous (I think he is very very biased btw way) and to me he is handsome or Mr x,y,z. | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. That's not being a dom that's abusive and I'm fed up of people like you giving the LS a bad name. Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive because they choose to be submissives not treated with a number and dehumanised absolute joker I think you need to calm down. I don't appreciate being attacked. Did you not here about the old saying "sticks and stones, but names never hurt". It's role play! Changing names is about taking on a role. I like letters and number, some like to call themselves by other words or names e.g. worm, slut... I prefer initials (men in black style) This is not unheard of and is written in various text from different Authors. And at what point did I mention the submissive didn't get a say in it!!! At what point did i say that SSC and RACK were not employed, were safety was paramount, and aftercare essential. Take it down a notch next time and think before you write. " | |||
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"What does LS mean? Long schlong" . I’m being serious | |||
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"What does LS mean? Long schlong . I’m being serious" So was I | |||
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"I assume it means lifestyle " Ahhhh ok thanks | |||
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"Which one is the sub smug or prick To be fair, it's more SM than DS." As you can tell I'm not up on this | |||
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"Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive" The hell it is! Beforehand, during negotiation, all parties have equal power. Afterwards, once we start, the only power the submissive has is to safeword and end the scene, (which I can also do). Any "real" Dom knows the old "submissive has all the power" trope is a bunch of bunk. The point of D/s is that the submissive is handing over power to the Dominant, (which is why it's called power exchange), so to claim the submissive has the "real" power is ridiculous. | |||
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"Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive The hell it is! Beforehand, during negotiation, all parties have equal power. Afterwards, once we start, the only power the submissive has is to safeword and end the scene, (which I can also do). Any "real" Dom knows the old "submissive has all the power" trope is a bunch of bunk. The point of D/s is that the submissive is handing over power to the Dominant, (which is why it's called power exchange), so to claim the submissive has the "real" power is ridiculous. " Can the submissive take away that consent at anytime? Yes can the dom do anything without that consent? No so yes the dom has the power given to them while they have been given the power they're in charge but it can be withdrawn at any time | |||
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"Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive The hell it is! Beforehand, during negotiation, all parties have equal power. Afterwards, once we start, the only power the submissive has is to safeword and end the scene, (which I can also do). Any "real" Dom knows the old "submissive has all the power" trope is a bunch of bunk. The point of D/s is that the submissive is handing over power to the Dominant, (which is why it's called power exchange), so to claim the submissive has the "real" power is ridiculous. Can the submissive take away that consent at anytime? Yes can the dom do anything without that consent? No so yes the dom has the power given to them while they have been given the power they're in charge but it can be withdrawn at any time " And the Dom can also decide to stop at any time. Can the sub dictate what happens? Can the sub make the Dom continue with anything or do anything they decide not to do? Can the sub make the Dom carry on if they decide to end the scene? BOTH parties must consent and BOTH parties can withdraw that consent at any time. And the sub can't do a damned thing *except* withdraw consent and end things. The Dom makes all the decisions. It's wannabes and newbies who have listened to wannabes who think the submissive has all the power. And apart from that, if they're restrained, they have no power at all. If they withdraw their consent, they're relying on the Dom being a decent person and stopping. If the Dom is an abusive asshole, the sub will find exactly how much power they have. None. | |||
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" Can the submissive take away that consent at anytime? Yes can the dom do anything without that consent? No so yes the dom has the power given to them while they have been given the power they're in charge but it can be withdrawn at any time " It’s nice that you play that way, but it’s not the only way to play. Withdrawing consent may be the ultimate power move to end a scene, but realistically that’s not how most d/s works and it is very much a last resort measure. And giving people numbers instead of names as part of a scene or lifestyle relationship is not abuse, it’s a different flavor of consensual kink. | |||
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"I like giving subs numbers or letters for their names. It takes away their identity. Makes them, less personable, less human. Easier to pass in to the submissive / dominant role. " My D renames his subs too | |||
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"Anyone in the LS who's a real dom knows the power is with the submissive The hell it is! Beforehand, during negotiation, all parties have equal power. Afterwards, once we start, the only power the submissive has is to safeword and end the scene, (which I can also do). Any "real" Dom knows the old "submissive has all the power" trope is a bunch of bunk. The point of D/s is that the submissive is handing over power to the Dominant, (which is why it's called power exchange), so to claim the submissive has the "real" power is ridiculous. Can the submissive take away that consent at anytime? Yes can the dom do anything without that consent? No so yes the dom has the power given to them while they have been given the power they're in charge but it can be withdrawn at any time And the Dom can also decide to stop at any time. Can the sub dictate what happens? Can the sub make the Dom continue with anything or do anything they decide not to do? Can the sub make the Dom carry on if they decide to end the scene? BOTH parties must consent and BOTH parties can withdraw that consent at any time. And the sub can't do a damned thing *except* withdraw consent and end things. The Dom makes all the decisions. It's wannabes and newbies who have listened to wannabes who think the submissive has all the power. And apart from that, if they're restrained, they have no power at all. If they withdraw their consent, they're relying on the Dom being a decent person and stopping. If the Dom is an abusive asshole, the sub will find exactly how much power they have. None." This is almost identical to what I have said on threads before the post covid increase of people identifying as being into BDSM. I think the gloss I would add is that the "sub is in control" statement comes from an attempt to empower subs in the face of abusive relationships. There were Dominants that treated the D/s dynamic in the way marriage used to be seen. Once entered into it could not be terminated even for abuse or failure to meet the others needs. Marriage has evolved and so has the view of the D/s relationship. Well for some, there are still people in the M/s and Owner/property relationships that take the view the sub/property are theirs forever and to deal with how they like. I am all for whatever legally and sensibly help create the submissive mindset. I think adults need to make and own their own decisions. Your kink is not my kink but I respect your right to practice it. But I think there is an education piece for shiny new submissives. There are abusive and narcissistic Doms that will tell new subs there is only one way to do BDSM, which is to sacrifice themselves for the Dom. Whereas my view is the sub should have researched and received independent education that there are different ways to do BDSM. The sub has a choice and even if they decide to go down the M/s route, ultimately they can still walk if their needs are not met. No court would enforce such a relationship. However, removing the psychological shackles may be harder. Which is why I am wary of acts that dehumanised subs, but if accepted by the sub with full knowledge and consent is no-one else's business. I accept that those who practice M/s and Owner/ property may have a different view to mine. | |||
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