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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears." I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. " I darent in case that makes things hostile. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. " This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears. I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps." Or not actually turn the video on, just let him think you are filming. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. I darent in case that makes things hostile." He’s already made things hostile. He’s relying on you not doing anything to make it easy for him. I guarantee that you won’t be the only person that he does this to | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works " He's three times the size of me! | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears. I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps. Or not actually turn the video on, just let him think you are filming." I know you meant that but I Also wondered if I could get proof. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works He's three times the size of me! " Then I’ll tell him to fuck off for you. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works He's three times the size of me! " Size is irrelevant with explosive violence Just flick your phone on record personally. | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears. I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps." Yes you can. | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him " Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works He's three times the size of me! Then I’ll tell him to fuck off for you. " Go on then! He's not a small guy. | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk " I think I'm going to try this. It's been going on for years (7/8) and he's the only bad thing about where I live, everyone else is so lovely. | |||
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"Ask his wife to have a word " I'd say this is your best option. Ask his wife to have a word and say his comments are making you feel uncomfortable. This may be enough to stop him. | |||
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"Ask his wife to have a word " I’d do this I think | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk I think I'm going to try this. It's been going on for years (7/8) and he's the only bad thing about where I live, everyone else is so lovely. " I think that’s very brave of you A word with his wife is great, but get some audio first as proof Guys like this are master manipulators. A word with his wife without proof will just turn into “I was just playing! She’s so sensitive, trying to cause drama” and his wife will eat it up Hope things turn out for the best. Might even be worth just reporting it to the police. Helps build a profile of harassment/abuse so they can see it’s an ongoing problem | |||
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"Ask his wife to have a word I'd say this is your best option. Ask his wife to have a word and say his comments are making you feel uncomfortable. This may be enough to stop him." If she believes you,she might think her husband is a real gentleman and would never do such a thing.Now youve got two enemies.Film him first so you have something to show the wife if she doesn't believe it. | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk I think I'm going to try this. It's been going on for years (7/8) and he's the only bad thing about where I live, everyone else is so lovely. I think that’s very brave of you A word with his wife is great, but get some audio first as proof Guys like this are master manipulators. A word with his wife without proof will just turn into “I was just playing! She’s so sensitive, trying to cause drama” and his wife will eat it up Hope things turn out for the best. Might even be worth just reporting it to the police. Helps build a profile of harassment/abuse so they can see it’s an ongoing problem " You seem to completely understand why I was ant the proof. | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears. I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps." In a public place, (which outside your house is), you can. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. This or just threaten to bash his head in his car door repeatedly usually works He's three times the size of me! Then I’ll tell him to fuck off for you. Go on then! He's not a small guy." So I’ll recognise him. | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears. I need to Google this to see if I can legally video him and get proof perhaps." You can record whatever you want as long as it can be seen from a publicly accessible area. I would suggest getting in contact with the police as this is sexual harassment. | |||
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"That sounds like a matter for the police! What a horrible excuse for a person he is... hope you can get things sorted x" I'd report to the Police. Perhaps a cosy chat with Mr Neighbour and an officer will put him off? But if he's like that with you so publicly, you can be certain he's as bad, if not worse, with others and in private. | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk " Can confirm. | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him " This is probably the best suggestion...and visual, but that's a big ask | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears." The piece of shit! | |||
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"Use audio record on your phone when he’s around. Catch him doing it. Nothing worse than a guy that fakes nice around others then acts like dirt when alone with someone Catch him and expose him Before others ask, completely legal. I’ve done it and provided it as evidence to the police. Audio is legal in the uk I think I'm going to try this. It's been going on for years (7/8) and he's the only bad thing about where I live, everyone else is so lovely. " Yes I would do this, get evidence then the police | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. " Agreed. Once, loudly, should do it. Left unchallenged, he probably thinks OP is alright with the attention and will become bolder | |||
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"I've seen people post on here about being able to see in windows, getting glimpses of neighbours in the summer in bikinis or shorts etc and other everyday scenarios where they perve a neighbour or even school run parents. I have a neighbour that I would describe as lecherous. He will make remarks on my figure when I walk past him on his drive as I go to my car. I can't really avoid that unless I park somewhere else in the opposite direction and further away. But it still wouldn't stop it. One day when I was still breast feeding my youngest I was talking to him and she pulled my top down. I grabbed it before she pulled it too far. He made the comment 'go on littlun pull it down further'. I was pretty horrified and really uncomfortable. He never ever says anything when his woman is in earshot. And I can't stand him. I dread pulling up and seeing him on his drive. And if he is there I'll sit in the car on my phone till he goes in to avoid him. But I can't always avoid him. How many people on here suffer the same sort of scenario or have done? Are you someone that perves on a neighbour and perhaps doesn't think about how uncomfortable you make them? How do you deal with a situation like that where's there is no proof and would end up just being his word against yours if you told his woman? And of course I've told him I don't like it." Have you mentioned this to any of the other neighbours? | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking." As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking." I know. But what do you you want me to do about that? And I’m not joking, if I see any bully i immediately know I’m going to go toe to toe with them if they start to try and push their weight around. Especially if it’s someone that feels threatened and feels like they can’t do much in their own. Even more so if I know the person involved. This guys bullying the op. And I like the op, I hope she’s able to take everyone’s advice and is able to resolve what’s going on and she knows everyone here probably supports her. | |||
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"I think almost every woman has had to deal with this kind of situation in their life. When confronted a guy will act all hurt and say they were being complimentary, it's only banter, women have no sense of humour, you can't say anything nowadays, bloody feminists etc etc. It's a really difficult position to be in and the men who do this bloody know it. All I can suggest is that you keep a record, written and recorded and back it up somewhere. Tell him you've done so and that if he doesn't stop you'll involve the police. You'll get all the blow and bluster mentioned above but if he thinks things through he'll realise surely that it's in his best interests to shut the fuck up. Basically though whatever you do there will be an awkwardness and I understand why you feel in a quandary but he and men like him rely on that. " Yep agree fully with this, get him recorded first, and also your reply to him, stating his actions are not welcome.. Gather what evidence you can from other neighbours and get the police involved. I wouldnt have any more conversations with him about threatening him with the police, or approach his wife , just gather what you can then call the police. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking." Ah yes, that completely safe world all men walk around in. Immune to violence. Yikes | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. " This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. | |||
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"I think almost every woman has had to deal with this kind of situation in their life. When confronted a guy will act all hurt and say they were being complimentary, it's only banter, women have no sense of humour, you can't say anything nowadays, bloody feminists etc etc. It's a really difficult position to be in and the men who do this bloody know it. All I can suggest is that you keep a record, written and recorded and back it up somewhere. Tell him you've done so and that if he doesn't stop you'll involve the police. You'll get all the blow and bluster mentioned above but if he thinks things through he'll realise surely that it's in his best interests to shut the fuck up. Basically though whatever you do there will be an awkwardness and I understand why you feel in a quandary but he and men like him rely on that. Yep agree fully with this, get him recorded first, and also your reply to him, stating his actions are not welcome.. Gather what evidence you can from other neighbours and get the police involved. I wouldnt have any more conversations with him about threatening him with the police, or approach his wife , just gather what you can then call the police. " I also agree with this. He knows what he’s doing is wrong. And you don’t want to be seen by the police as engaging with it. That makes their job harder. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. " And my advice too skybird! Not that I'm seeking praise ! | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. Ah yes, that completely safe world all men walk around in. Immune to violence. Yikes " Yep. Xanadu - or is it Atlantis? If you wanna play War of the Sexes, Ain’t it Awful, or anything else similar - I will meet you on a different thread. And I’ll play as hard and as long as you play But I really think, and with all due respect, this ain’t the one. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. " Thank you. I "may" have had these conversations before. Sadly. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. And my advice too skybird! Not that I'm seeking praise ! " Say. My. Name. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. I know. But what do you you want me to do about that? And I’m not joking, if I see any bully i immediately know I’m going to go toe to toe with them if they start to try and push their weight around. Especially if it’s someone that feels threatened and feels like they can’t do much in their own. Even more so if I know the person involved. This guys bullying the op. And I like the op, I hope she’s able to take everyone’s advice and is able to resolve what’s going on and she knows everyone here probably supports her. " I’ve had your cape dry cleaned for you. Let me know when you want to pick it up | |||
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"Serious note: sad times when women are having to put up with shit like this on a regular basis they shouldn't have to. " Normal times. It has never not been like this. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. Ah yes, that completely safe world all men walk around in. Immune to violence. Yikes Yep. Xanadu - or is it Atlantis? If you wanna play War of the Sexes, Ain’t it Awful, or anything else similar - I will meet you on a different thread. And I’ll play as hard and as long as you play But I really think, and with all due respect, this ain’t the one. " Think you turned it into a war of the sexes by pretending men never face violence or walk this world entirely safe No one’s immune to violence and no one should be turning it into a competition. Gross behaviour to try to. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. And my advice too skybird! Not that I'm seeking praise ! Say. My. Name. " Faith Skynbyrd | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. I know. But what do you you want me to do about that? And I’m not joking, if I see any bully i immediately know I’m going to go toe to toe with them if they start to try and push their weight around. Especially if it’s someone that feels threatened and feels like they can’t do much in their own. Even more so if I know the person involved. This guys bullying the op. And I like the op, I hope she’s able to take everyone’s advice and is able to resolve what’s going on and she knows everyone here probably supports her. I’ve had your cape dry cleaned for you. Let me know when you want to pick it up " Cute. | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. Ah yes, that completely safe world all men walk around in. Immune to violence. Yikes Yep. Xanadu - or is it Atlantis? If you wanna play War of the Sexes, Ain’t it Awful, or anything else similar - I will meet you on a different thread. And I’ll play as hard and as long as you play But I really think, and with all due respect, this ain’t the one. Think you turned it into a war of the sexes by pretending men never face violence or walk this world entirely safe No one’s immune to violence and no one should be turning it into a competition. Gross behaviour to try to. " So… seeing as that’s not even close to what I said… we will agree to disagree and leave each other alone now. Peace and blessings | |||
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"It’s interesting how most of the men’s answers differ from the women’s. To the men who are advising violence or aggressive behaviour: must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world. Even if you’re joking. As a man, perfectly capable of extreme violence........ Violence should always be the very last resort and often ends with a criminal conviction for the person perpetrating the violence. And then increases the unwanted attention on the real victim. It taints any case moving forward and adds to the creeps sense of power. Evidence gathering, a diary of interactions, where, when, what was said. Video evidence from a mobile phone. The more evidence the better. Then take it to the police. They have the power to stop it and apply sanctions and are the correct authority to resolve this. Not urban vigilantes. This is good advice, well reasoned and well written. And my advice too skybird! Not that I'm seeking praise ! Say. My. Name. Faith Skynbyrd " https://youtu.be/dy_DASt7hDs?si=z0EghDE4lpwFp1le | |||
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" must be nice to walk around completely assured of the knowledge that you are safe in this world " Who knows, maybe there’s a way to misunderstand that. | |||
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"Tell him to fuck off. Everytime. I darent in case that makes things hostile." Things will certainly get hostile if most of the probably well meant advice dished out on her gets taken by the OP. Far too many of the suggestions are confrontational and it is easy to see how wars with neighbours can start. I would want to know far more about both sides to this story before dishing out helpful advice. Are there other issues such as him being self styled king of the street with his wife egging him on, for instance. They do exist! Barring other complications, the situation needs dealing with quietly and firmly by the OP directly to the man concerned. The earlier suggestion from BlueLotus " If I were you I'd get out of the car with my phone in my hand recording but looking at it as you walk past so it's not pointing at him. Then when he says something I'd say "if you ever speak to me like that again I'm going to have a word with you wife about you. And by the way ive recorded all this" and point the phone at his face. Deep breath and walk away. You got this! " is, in my opinion, the best way to resolve this. Unless there is far more to this story than we have been told, which could be the case if it has been running for so many years without let up. So far, the BlueLotus suggestion looks like the nearest to being a practical one. | |||
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"I've seen people post on here about being able to see in windows, getting glimpses of neighbours in the summer in bikinis or shorts etc and other everyday scenarios where they perve a neighbour or even school run parents. I have a neighbour that I would describe as lecherous. He will make remarks on my figure when I walk past him on his drive as I go to my car. I can't really avoid that unless I park somewhere else in the opposite direction and further away. But it still wouldn't stop it. One day when I was still breast feeding my youngest I was talking to him and she pulled my top down. I grabbed it before she pulled it too far. He made the comment 'go on littlun pull it down further'. I was pretty horrified and really uncomfortable. He never ever says anything when his woman is in earshot. And I can't stand him. I dread pulling up and seeing him on his drive. And if he is there I'll sit in the car on my phone till he goes in to avoid him. But I can't always avoid him. How many people on here suffer the same sort of scenario or have done? Are you someone that perves on a neighbour and perhaps doesn't think about how uncomfortable you make them? How do you deal with a situation like that where's there is no proof and would end up just being his word against yours if you told his woman? And of course I've told him I don't like it." Sounds like he needs properly putting in his place. Put your phone on record when he's around for your own protection. | |||
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"You want to call him out, when his wife is in esrshot. You might get some shit for it, but he might think twice afterwards." Another very good idea. | |||
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"When you leave your house or get out of your car, have your phone set on video and point the camera at him when he appears." What about recording him voice only, not as intrusive but effective. | |||
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"You want to call him out, when his wife is in esrshot. You might get some shit for it, but he might think twice afterwards." Why drag his wife into it or use her as a pawn? Have a word with him, warn him, and if he doesn’t apologise and change then consider other options. But using his wife as a pawn in the first instance is unfair on her. | |||
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"All I'd suggest is, get your phone voice memo note recording when you see him next, collate as much innopropiate behaviour as you can, get you saying "hi Pervy paul" in the recording and anything he says, possibly make conversation about stuff that only applies to him (he's wife, wife's name etc) whatever proof you can that it's him you are talking to,. When you have enough evidence that has him bang to rights send it all to yourself via an email. When he approaches you with that energy again, explain to him that you've told him he makes you uncomfortable, he keeps doing it and now you've started recording him doing it, does he want he's wife to know? Does he want the police to know? The vms might not be addressable in court as he was recorded without he's permission, but the threat itself might put him in line. You also have voice recorders on smart watches which is more discreet (if you own a smart watch)" How about starting by having a word with him rather than starting with surveillance? If he isn’t confronted he’s unlikely to change behaviour though, and may well escalate, thinking well she was ok with what I said last week … | |||
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"Next time he makes a comment tell him in his dreams & say you’ll be having a word with his wife I’m sure she’d be mortified by his remarks " This right here, as someone else said he’s probably a coward and you’ll probably find if you are assertive and stand up to him and even the threat of outing his behaviour you’ll probably find he scurries away and he either stops or isn’t so pervy and weird. Good luck x | |||
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" How about starting by having a word with him rather than starting with surveillance? If he isn’t confronted he’s unlikely to change behaviour though, and may well escalate, thinking well she was ok with what I said last week … " Read the last sentence of the OP. | |||
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"Could people please read the last sentence of my OP? " My post wasn’t sarcastic, you just typed quicker than me. | |||
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"Could people please read the last sentence of my OP? My post wasn’t sarcastic, you just typed quicker than me. " No worries. I wasn't going to post at specific posters as there's more than one. | |||
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"Random question, but do you know if he's in privately owned, council or social housing? If the former then your best bet is the neighbourhood ASBO team at the police as they'll take that behaviour seriously. If either of the former, then there will be clauses in any tenancy agreement regarding anti-social behaviour and the potential consequences, which will ultimately involve eviction. Any reports to any of them will be kept anonymous and the relevant agencies will also potentially make enquiries with other close neighbours to see if he's behaving the same way with anyone else. I've had problem neighbours in the past and it ended up with a full team involving the police, council, social services and the housing association getting together to address the behaviour. It soon stopped. Good luck. " Oh he's council.....thank you Obi!!!! I hadn't realised you could do that. | |||
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"Random question, but do you know if he's in privately owned, council or social housing? If the former then your best bet is the neighbourhood ASBO team at the police as they'll take that behaviour seriously. If either of the former, then there will be clauses in any tenancy agreement regarding anti-social behaviour and the potential consequences, which will ultimately involve eviction. Any reports to any of them will be kept anonymous and the relevant agencies will also potentially make enquiries with other close neighbours to see if he's behaving the same way with anyone else. I've had problem neighbours in the past and it ended up with a full team involving the police, council, social services and the housing association getting together to address the behaviour. It soon stopped. Good luck. Oh he's council.....thank you Obi!!!! I hadn't realised you could do that. " Yep. Definitely the way to go. There's a clause in every tenancy agreement re anti-social behaviour and a dedicated team in each housing department. They'll call you, may do a home visit and will ask you to keep a log to record any incidents. They'll then make contact with him (and obvs his wife if it's a joint tenancy) which may be enough to shake him up a bit and cause it to stop. If he persists or approaches you after that, then shit gets serious and the council will involve the police, as its effectively harassment. Hopefully enough to put a stop to it. | |||
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"Random question, but do you know if he's in privately owned, council or social housing? If the former then your best bet is the neighbourhood ASBO team at the police as they'll take that behaviour seriously. If either of the former, then there will be clauses in any tenancy agreement regarding anti-social behaviour and the potential consequences, which will ultimately involve eviction. Any reports to any of them will be kept anonymous and the relevant agencies will also potentially make enquiries with other close neighbours to see if he's behaving the same way with anyone else. I've had problem neighbours in the past and it ended up with a full team involving the police, council, social services and the housing association getting together to address the behaviour. It soon stopped. Good luck. Oh he's council.....thank you Obi!!!! I hadn't realised you could do that. Yep. Definitely the way to go. There's a clause in every tenancy agreement re anti-social behaviour and a dedicated team in each housing department. They'll call you, may do a home visit and will ask you to keep a log to record any incidents. They'll then make contact with him (and obvs his wife if it's a joint tenancy) which may be enough to shake him up a bit and cause it to stop. If he persists or approaches you after that, then shit gets serious and the council will involve the police, as its effectively harassment. Hopefully enough to put a stop to it. " Honestly yours has been the most helpful comment,thank you. | |||
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"Random question, but do you know if he's in privately owned, council or social housing? If the former then your best bet is the neighbourhood ASBO team at the police as they'll take that behaviour seriously. If either of the former, then there will be clauses in any tenancy agreement regarding anti-social behaviour and the potential consequences, which will ultimately involve eviction. Any reports to any of them will be kept anonymous and the relevant agencies will also potentially make enquiries with other close neighbours to see if he's behaving the same way with anyone else. I've had problem neighbours in the past and it ended up with a full team involving the police, council, social services and the housing association getting together to address the behaviour. It soon stopped. Good luck. Oh he's council.....thank you Obi!!!! I hadn't realised you could do that. Yep. Definitely the way to go. There's a clause in every tenancy agreement re anti-social behaviour and a dedicated team in each housing department. They'll call you, may do a home visit and will ask you to keep a log to record any incidents. They'll then make contact with him (and obvs his wife if it's a joint tenancy) which may be enough to shake him up a bit and cause it to stop. If he persists or approaches you after that, then shit gets serious and the council will involve the police, as its effectively harassment. Hopefully enough to put a stop to it. Honestly yours has been the most helpful comment,thank you. " No worries. It's not nice when you don't feel safe and happy in/around your own home. Hope you get it sorted. | |||
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"I had a peeping Tom in my previous house....he used to constantly watch me sunbathing in my bikini in my back garden....he even told me so After he told me he watches me (& he said all sorts of other perverted stuff that I just shut my ears to)....I wondered where is he watching me from....until one day I looked up at his house & could see his net curtain moving slightly....I could see him behind it & it appeared he was pulling his dick.... Tbh if he was a hot young fit fella I would've been flattered but this guy was around 70....(well maybe I'd still find it creepy though regardless of age).... Anyway back to you OP....Is there anyway you could record this creep when he approaches you & speaks to you in this creepy perverted way....Like gather some evidence if possible....This is sexual harrasment & a crime.... Sometimes though it only takes a caution from the police & their behaviour stops...." So young fit Pervs are alright are they? Not sure a judge would accept that as an argument | |||
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"I had a peeping Tom in my previous house....he used to constantly watch me sunbathing in my bikini in my back garden....he even told me so After he told me he watches me (& he said all sorts of other perverted stuff that I just shut my ears to)....I wondered where is he watching me from....until one day I looked up at his house & could see his net curtain moving slightly....I could see him behind it & it appeared he was pulling his dick.... Tbh if he was a hot young fit fella I would've been flattered but this guy was around 70....(well maybe I'd still find it creepy though regardless of age).... " Sorry I can't let this go. Talk about double standards,I'm sorry but this is not on. This is the sort of thing that guys misinterpret as ok to do if they think they are hot it confuses the hard of thinking. It's a no regardless not when it suits. | |||
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"OP I read half the comments not all. But I understand your point of view about not being confrontational potentially causing more issues and yes we are both the type of people who wouldn't tell him to fuck off it's just not in some people's nature. If it was us I'd be putting up CCTV and angling it for your property but if it catches him at it so be it. Maybe wear headphones as you go in so you can pretend to not hear him and maybe just a polite nod. Get some big blokes round to glare at him or better still a big gay guy to flirt with him and make inappropriate comments at him see how he feels. If you don't say anything to the wife and she finds out the longer it goes on chance's are she'll think you have been encouraging him, sooner the better. Get a really obnoxious loud girlfriend to give him some abuse. Can you plant some bushes in-between your properties? Buy a really big dog. Get a boyfriend. Speak to your other neighbours see if anyone else gets the same vibe and ask them to keep an eye out for you. Speak to your local community police officer. Or just straight up tell him politely to stop as it scares you and makes you uncomfortable if he carries on you'll report him to everyone! " Yes I not the type to be confrontational and tell him to fuck off. He's also connected to my first ever boyfriend and a circle of people that used to be a bit batshit and not the types to piss off. But this guy has heart problems, no doubt from the lifestyle that circle had. I had a boyfriend for two years (had a couples profile on here with him) and thats made not much difference. And now I'm single again he's been worse. I have told one neighbour. Because one day I was chatting to him and this lecherous one came out and said 'stop chatting the neighbours up, we all know you need a new boyfriend'. That sparked enough of a conversation the next time I saw him alone to be able to tell him what there lecherous one had been doing. Earphones don't won't work even when I'm clearly on the phone. There's one neighbour between us. Lecherous never walks down my direction but I have to walk past his to get to my car | |||
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"I had a peeping Tom in my previous house....he used to constantly watch me sunbathing in my bikini in my back garden....he even told me so After he told me he watches me (& he said all sorts of other perverted stuff that I just shut my ears to)....I wondered where is he watching me from....until one day I looked up at his house & could see his net curtain moving slightly....I could see him behind it & it appeared he was pulling his dick.... Tbh if he was a hot young fit fella I would've been flattered but this guy was around 70....(well maybe I'd still find it creepy though regardless of age).... Sorry I can't let this go. Talk about double standards,I'm sorry but this is not on. This is the sort of thing that guys misinterpret as ok to do if they think they are hot it confuses the hard of thinking. It's a no regardless not when it suits. " Spot on! | |||
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"OP I read half the comments not all. But I understand your point of view about not being confrontational potentially causing more issues and yes we are both the type of people who wouldn't tell him to fuck off it's just not in some people's nature. If it was us I'd be putting up CCTV and angling it for your property but if it catches him at it so be it. Maybe wear headphones as you go in so you can pretend to not hear him and maybe just a polite nod. Get some big blokes round to glare at him or better still a big gay guy to flirt with him and make inappropriate comments at him see how he feels. If you don't say anything to the wife and she finds out the longer it goes on chance's are she'll think you have been encouraging him, sooner the better. Get a really obnoxious loud girlfriend to give him some abuse. Can you plant some bushes in-between your properties? Buy a really big dog. Get a boyfriend. Speak to your other neighbours see if anyone else gets the same vibe and ask them to keep an eye out for you. Speak to your local community police officer. Or just straight up tell him politely to stop as it scares you and makes you uncomfortable if he carries on you'll report him to everyone! Yes I not the type to be confrontational and tell him to fuck off. He's also connected to my first ever boyfriend and a circle of people that used to be a bit batshit and not the types to piss off. But this guy has heart problems, no doubt from the lifestyle that circle had. I had a boyfriend for two years (had a couples profile on here with him) and thats made not much difference. And now I'm single again he's been worse. I have told one neighbour. Because one day I was chatting to him and this lecherous one came out and said 'stop chatting the neighbours up, we all know you need a new boyfriend'. That sparked enough of a conversation the next time I saw him alone to be able to tell him what there lecherous one had been doing. Earphones don't won't work even when I'm clearly on the phone. There's one neighbour between us. Lecherous never walks down my direction but I have to walk past his to get to my car Tricky one but if he's making you uncomfortable then I think a word with someone in authority such as the police,you shouldn't feel threatened in your own home. I feel for you we have a similar ISH situation with the lad next door who talks to everyone who passes the house we can't go outside without being pestered by him,he just doesn't go away. If we try to wash the car he will come out with a brush and try to help if I'm doing gardening he picks up shears and trys to help, sounds harmless but we literally can't step foot outside he follows us up the street and trys to come into the back garden if the gate is open. His mum just laughs at him, meantime I don't want a kid I don't know coming into our garden unattended. So I understand how much you feel trapped in your own home. It's sad times that a bloke feels the need to sexually harass a lone women outside her own house and he has no fear of doing so. A good swift kick to the ball's " You seriously suggest assault? | |||
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