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"Have you got a Power of Attorney set up for yourself? " Yep and insurance policy’s and pensions All sorted At my age kinda have to  | |||
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"I don’t take non of that shit! My body’s a temple."
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"You can’t do it for yourself it doesn’t work like that "Yes you can J | |||
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"So when you loose your marbles you’re going to sort your own affairs out? " You know that’s not what’s being said. FFS. | |||
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"So when you loose your marbles you’re going to sort your own affairs out? You know that’s not what’s being said. FFS. " I know it was a joke FFS | |||
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My mum has a POA already set up thank goodness | |||
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"So when you loose your marbles you’re going to sort your own affairs out? You know that’s not what’s being said. FFS. I know it was a joke FFS" Apologies, I’m narky today. I’ll get over myself | |||
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"I've got one for my dad, still very much compos - but he is 86 "It’s interesting because the majority of my friends I’ve spoken to about think of it as something for when they’re much older and no one really thinks about the what if you had an accident right now that impacted you angle. Not saying you’re not btw. | |||
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"My dad point blank refuses to allow me P o A. We're possibly in for an interesting future " Is it the giving up of control per se, or to you specifically? Difficult. | |||
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"If left too late it could result in long delays and legal activity at a time when you could best do without it" Totally agree. PoA far easier & cheaper than Deputyship | |||
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"Have you got a Power of Attorney set up for yourself? " Not yet, no. But I am my Dad's Attorney x2 and was my Grandad's too. | |||
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"My dad point blank refuses to allow me P o A. We're possibly in for an interesting future " If it comes to it, you can apply for Deputyship but it takes time and it's expensive and you have a much greater level of record keeping to maintain. | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! " You can split the financial side from healthcare/wellbeing aspects. It is an interesting question who to use if you have no family and don’t feel you have a friend or friends that could take it on. I don’t know, can one organise for a professional to do these things and at least be able to talk through your likely preferred approaches with them rather than just leave it to being a ward of the state as it were…? | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! " Anyone you trust to look after your best interests. It can cover medical decisions, where you live etc… Look into it if nothing else & make a list of your wishes J x | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! You can split the financial side from healthcare/wellbeing aspects. It is an interesting question who to use if you have no family and don’t feel you have a friend or friends that could take it on. I don’t know, can one organise for a professional to do these things and at least be able to talk through your likely preferred approaches with them rather than just leave it to being a ward of the state as it were…?" I looked, you can choose a solicitor. | |||
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"My dad point blank refuses to allow me P o A. We're possibly in for an interesting future Is it the giving up of control per se, or to you specifically? Difficult. " It's the perceived giving up of once mostly. It's not me specifically. There are many factors which discretion, server space and the distinct possibility that several readers would die of boredom prevent me from going in to. | |||
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"My dad point blank refuses to allow me P o A. We're possibly in for an interesting future If it comes to it, you can apply for Deputyship but it takes time and it's expensive and you have a much greater level of record keeping to maintain. " Hope it doesn't come to it. | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! You can split the financial side from healthcare/wellbeing aspects. It is an interesting question who to use if you have no family and don’t feel you have a friend or friends that could take it on. I don’t know, can one organise for a professional to do these things and at least be able to talk through your likely preferred approaches with them rather than just leave it to being a ward of the state as it were…? I looked, you can choose a solicitor. " Although worth noting - given that professional attorneys charge for their time, it's important to consider the costs carefully before you choose an attorney. | |||
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"My dad point blank refuses to allow me P o A. We're possibly in for an interesting future Is it the giving up of control per se, or to you specifically? Difficult. It's the perceived giving up of once mostly. It's not me specifically. There are many factors which discretion, server space and the distinct possibility that several readers would die of boredom prevent me from going in to. "Fair enough! Xx | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! You can split the financial side from healthcare/wellbeing aspects. It is an interesting question who to use if you have no family and don’t feel you have a friend or friends that could take it on. I don’t know, can one organise for a professional to do these things and at least be able to talk through your likely preferred approaches with them rather than just leave it to being a ward of the state as it were…? I looked, you can choose a solicitor. Although worth noting - given that professional attorneys charge for their time, it's important to consider the costs carefully before you choose an attorney." This  Solicitors charge a bloody fortune!!! | |||
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"Hmmm.... I don't have kids.. Who will I even give POA to!?! " Maybe a sibling or trusted friend. Mine isn't my kids because they are still young but I also wouldn't ask that of them. I'm lucky enough to have a brother that I trust to make those decisions should he ever need to. | |||
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"Power of Attorny in place. Will up to date - If anymore grandkids come along tough shit I am not changing it again. Funeral, well not really a funeral as am having Unattended Cremation which is already paid for." Re: Grandkids, assuming you want to leave equal things to them, you just word the Will "I leave X to each of my natural or adopted Grandchildren" and then it doesn't matter how many there are. My Grandad left a sum of X to each of his Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren. There were 9 in total by the time he passed away. | |||
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"Been talking to my Daughter about doing this. Makes it easier if I lose my marbles and when I pop my clogs. " It’s for when you lose mental capacity. They end upon death. J x | |||
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"You can’t do it for yourself it doesn’t work like that "Yes you can. It’s much easier to do it for yourself while you’re of sound mind. It’s much harder once you lose your capacity and someone else has to do it for you. | |||
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"I’ve got no next of kin to bequeath anything to, so I haven’t done a will. Frankly, if I lose capacity I won’t know or care and it doesn’t really matter!" I'm my Dad's Attorney. I feel like it's completely impossible to live my life, be a Mum and be the Attorney too. I'm erring towards pre paying for a one way ticket to Switzerland for when I can just about still manage the trip. I don't want my kids to have to do as much as I'm having to do right now. | |||
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"I’ve got no next of kin to bequeath anything to, so I haven’t done a will. Frankly, if I lose capacity I won’t know or care and it doesn’t really matter!" You can lose you capacity to manage your finances and still have control over your health, welfare and affairs. You have to go back to principle 1 for all other decisions. So in short, you could know 
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"I’ve got no next of kin to bequeath anything to, so I haven’t done a will. Frankly, if I lose capacity I won’t know or care and it doesn’t really matter! You can lose you capacity to manage your finances and still have control over your health, welfare and affairs. You have to go back to principle 1 for all other decisions. So in short, you could know
If I find you wandering the streets, you can come and live with me "Such a complicated issue. At work I deal with so many cases where we have got Deputyship orders for finances due to no family, family not willing or family stealing the money 
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"I’ve got no next of kin to bequeath anything to, so I haven’t done a will. Frankly, if I lose capacity I won’t know or care and it doesn’t really matter! You can lose you capacity to manage your finances and still have control over your health, welfare and affairs. You have to go back to principle 1 for all other decisions. So in short, you could know
If I find you wandering the streets, you can come and live with me "Cheers chick! Things have gotten pretty bad if I’ve wandered as far as Birkenhead in my pyjamas! | |||
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"I’ve got no next of kin to bequeath anything to, so I haven’t done a will. Frankly, if I lose capacity I won’t know or care and it doesn’t really matter! You can lose you capacity to manage your finances and still have control over your health, welfare and affairs. You have to go back to principle 1 for all other decisions. So in short, you could know
If I find you wandering the streets, you can come and live with me
Cheers chick! Things have gotten pretty bad if I’ve wandered as far as Birkenhead in my pyjamas! "I probably wouldn’t even notice you to be honest, it’s an everyday occurrence in Birkenhead. If you do manage to wander up here, just remember not to look the locals in the eye | |||
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"No but I do need to set some things up this year, including my work based death in service benefactor " I always wince having to "sell" that as a benefit to prospective employees! | |||
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"Must admit never thought about it until Martin Lewis mentioned it a couple of weeks ago..." Same here!! | |||
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"It’s not something I‘be given any thought too. I’m not even sure what it covers. " Basically if you lose the mental capacity to make decisions for yourself, you can appoint up to 2 people (plus a reserve) to make those decisions for you. Can be for finances & property or health & welfare. Worth looking into, you don’t need a solicitors https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney | |||
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"Have you got a Power of Attorney set up for yourself? " yes, it's a nightmare trying to get it organised if i lose capacity without one. It is all online and easy to do, just make sure you talk to your prospective attorneys etc before preparing all the forms | |||
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"It’s not something I‘be given any thought too. I’m not even sure what it covers. Basically if you lose the mental capacity to make decisions for yourself, you can appoint up to 2 people (plus a reserve) to make those decisions for you. Can be for finances & property or health & welfare. Worth looking into, you don’t need a solicitors https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney" Whilst it sounds an eminently sensible thing to have in place, the practicality of getting someone to take on what is a massive responsibility could prove problematic. It’s like the old wedding speech joke, ‘here are some messages, from those who were invited but couldn’t come, and those who could come but weren’t invited’. | |||
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"Have you got a Power of Attorney set up for yourself? " Not yet but i am going to do it. I do have a will which is very specific about everything such as the house, possesions, money etc. | |||
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"It’s not something I‘be given any thought too. I’m not even sure what it covers. Basically if you lose the mental capacity to make decisions for yourself, you can appoint up to 2 people (plus a reserve) to make those decisions for you. Can be for finances & property or health & welfare. Worth looking into, you don’t need a solicitors https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney Whilst it sounds an eminently sensible thing to have in place, the practicality of getting someone to take on what is a massive responsibility could prove problematic. It’s like the old wedding speech joke, ‘here are some messages, from those who were invited but couldn’t come, and those who could come but weren’t invited’. " As someone currently acting as an Attorney, it IS a massive responsibility and the bodies you have to deal with, such as doctors, expect you to be available at the drop of a hat, failing to understand that you cannot attend appointments 40-odd miles away with next to no notice and no prior discussion of the date/time. Having the responsibility alongside being a parent of small children and working FT is frankly impossible and to be brutally honest, I regret being appointed. However, because my Dad doesn't have anyone else to do it, I do it. It's killing me, though. Physically and mentally. | |||
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"Have you got a Power of Attorney set up for yourself? " Yes…. Actually it was on my 2023 to do lists PoA and getting my will sorted out (you lot are getting nothing!!) | |||
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"I found it difficult having POA. I had the same issues about appointments/meetings being arranged with no thought to me working etc. Some had to go ahead without me, i always asked for notes to be taken so i could catch up but this rarely happened. Decisions were often made without my knowledge or agreement even though they should always have my agreement. It was such a stressful time." GP just went to Dad's house, refused to dial me in on the phone in lieu of being physically present and has just accepted at face value a load of total and utter BS from him about his diet and lifestyle etc. And she deems him to have capacity!!!! Three consultants on Monday did NOT. It's enraging. | |||
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"I found it difficult having POA. I had the same issues about appointments/meetings being arranged with no thought to me working etc. Some had to go ahead without me, i always asked for notes to be taken so i could catch up but this rarely happened. Decisions were often made without my knowledge or agreement even though they should always have my agreement. It was such a stressful time. GP just went to Dad's house, refused to dial me in on the phone in lieu of being physically present and has just accepted at face value a load of total and utter BS from him about his diet and lifestyle etc. And she deems him to have capacity!!!! Three consultants on Monday did NOT. It's enraging." Oh no that's so frustrating. I hope everyone listens to the consultants and not the GP ! | |||
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"I found it difficult having POA. I had the same issues about appointments/meetings being arranged with no thought to me working etc. Some had to go ahead without me, i always asked for notes to be taken so i could catch up but this rarely happened. Decisions were often made without my knowledge or agreement even though they should always have my agreement. It was such a stressful time. GP just went to Dad's house, refused to dial me in on the phone in lieu of being physically present and has just accepted at face value a load of total and utter BS from him about his diet and lifestyle etc. And she deems him to have capacity!!!! Three consultants on Monday did NOT. It's enraging." Can you change his GP? I feel angry for you xx J x | |||
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"I found it difficult having POA. I had the same issues about appointments/meetings being arranged with no thought to me working etc. Some had to go ahead without me, i always asked for notes to be taken so i could catch up but this rarely happened. Decisions were often made without my knowledge or agreement even though they should always have my agreement. It was such a stressful time. GP just went to Dad's house, refused to dial me in on the phone in lieu of being physically present and has just accepted at face value a load of total and utter BS from him about his diet and lifestyle etc. And she deems him to have capacity!!!! Three consultants on Monday did NOT. It's enraging." Letter of complaint to GP surgery immediately. Unfortunately capacity comes and goes, so GP could argue that during meeting dad was clear and lucid. Also you can have up to 4 attorneys and 4 reserve attorneys. | |||
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"I found it difficult having POA. I had the same issues about appointments/meetings being arranged with no thought to me working etc. Some had to go ahead without me, i always asked for notes to be taken so i could catch up but this rarely happened. Decisions were often made without my knowledge or agreement even though they should always have my agreement. It was such a stressful time. GP just went to Dad's house, refused to dial me in on the phone in lieu of being physically present and has just accepted at face value a load of total and utter BS from him about his diet and lifestyle etc. And she deems him to have capacity!!!! Three consultants on Monday did NOT. It's enraging. Letter of complaint to GP surgery immediately. Unfortunately capacity comes and goes, so GP could argue that during meeting dad was clear and lucid. Also you can have up to 4 attorneys and 4 reserve attorneys. " Unless his lucidty almost immediately disappeared, I doubt it. They just don't want the extra work that they actually need to do. They have the attitude that it's a social care problem (they pass the buck back to the family, who consist of me and my brother, that's it). We can't have 4 Attorneys or reserves because he doesn't have 4 adult people on the Earth either who he's related to or sufficiently close to, who would take it on. He has me (disabled), my brother and our children. That's it. Both my bro and I are in our 30s, we work FT and we have primary school aged children for whom we are responsible. Social services and his GP don't care about any of that at all. | |||
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