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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Putting a stamp on it.

News out that all those will be exonerated but why now, why seeing a drama on the scandal did this law come to fruition. Should the powers done something sooner.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

I suspect it’s the fact that the ITV drama made it an accessible and more widely understood story that built the necessary size of concentrated immediate public outrage for the government to have to do something. And it was a bloody good dramatisation of the tragedy.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

The law has already been investigating and exonerating postmasters albeit at a glacially slow pace because of the possibility of exonerating genuinely corrupt postmasters.Now it's going to be done the other way round,conviction overturned,re investigate,re prosecute genuine theft.

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Yes, it shouldn't have taken a TV program to make this happen.

Thise people have been through hell and it's unforgivable that it's been going on 20 years.

There's people who have since died or killed themselves and they will never know justice.

Everyone involved in that cover up should be fully investigated and prosecuted.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The power of the media.

This is the power for good change. What happens when it's bad change? Be careful what you wish for.

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By *ustincamebridgeCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Wrongful conviction happens a lot more than people think. Having a pardon is not the same as having your conviction overturned. The big issue is the appeal process is far too slow. For some its even harder to handle than the original trial.

One note: one of those that gave evidence on behalf of the Post Office an Fujitsu is now asking for immunity from prosecution.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Wrongful conviction happens a lot more than people think. Having a pardon is not the same as having your conviction overturned. The big issue is the appeal process is far too slow. For some its even harder to handle than the original trial.

One note: one of those that gave evidence on behalf of the Post Office an Fujitsu is now asking for immunity from prosecution."

I bet they are. I'd like to know the wording of the document these poor souls will be required to sign too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is how is see it.

I may be wrong, I may be right

The top brass within the organisation and remember it was all part of Royal Mail Parcel force, will stand up and try to bluff and bluster their way out of it.

They will, behind closed doors, select an individual to take it all on the chin.

My guess is that Angela Van De Beergen women will be the one pushed forward, simply as she's been invisible since the drama broke.

Crozier and Leighton who were RM Chiefs at the time must have known....

Anyone heard from the Minister for the Post Office "Sir" Ed Davey?

Pretty quiet too.

To put a compensation figure on someone who lost a partner or parent due to this, whether suicide or stress etc, makes me sick at the thought some jumped up MP will put a value on a life.

The whole thing stinks of a cover up as big as Hillsborough and the Infected Blood Scandal, if not bigger.

The overturning of conviction is the minimum needed for these poor people and the executives......well I don't think what I'd do is publishable

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"This is how is see it.

I may be wrong, I may be right

The top brass within the organisation and remember it was all part of Royal Mail Parcel force, will stand up and try to bluff and bluster their way out of it.

They will, behind closed doors, select an individual to take it all on the chin.

My guess is that Angela Van De Beergen women will be the one pushed forward, simply as she's been invisible since the drama broke.

Crozier and Leighton who were RM Chiefs at the time must have known....

Anyone heard from the Minister for the Post Office "Sir" Ed Davey?

Pretty quiet too.

To put a compensation figure on someone who lost a partner or parent due to this, whether suicide or stress etc, makes me sick at the thought some jumped up MP will put a value on a life.

The whole thing stinks of a cover up as big as Hillsborough and the Infected Blood Scandal, if not bigger.

The overturning of conviction is the minimum needed for these poor people and the executives......well I don't think what I'd do is publishable"

At least one lady had a miscarriage because of the stress of her husband's wrongful prosecution.Compensation is the only practical remedy but how do you put a 'price' on that?In all his time in parliament 'sir' ed davey(he doesn't deserve caps) has called for 31 people to resign for far less than his look the other way/incompetence.Chances of him resigning?

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"I suspect it’s the fact that the ITV drama made it an accessible and more widely understood story that built the necessary size of concentrated immediate public outrage for the government to have to do something. And it was a bloody good dramatisation of the tragedy. "

I think this is spot on. I haven’t seen the drama but have been following this for years in the computer press. It has been available for people to get incensed about for a very long time but it just hasn’t resonated. The drama has definitely had a huge impact.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I do think that the wider media are also culpable in this as well. This has been known for decades and almost no one (aside from a few publications) really did anything about it.

Everyone is focussing on the government and the media are piling in on them - why was this level of attention not raised earlier? What does it say about the ability of our media to hold people to account when they miss a well documented scandal right under their noses?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It's disgusting that it has taken this to get things moving. Also, those responsible should now be held to account.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Putting a stamp on it.

News out that all those will be exonerated but why now, why seeing a drama on the scandal did this law come to fruition. Should the powers done something sooner. "

Of course they should have… the unseemly scramble to blame and get political credit is underway.

What about those poor victims of the infected blood

scandal from 40 years ago? Maybe they should commission a drama themselves?

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