FabSwingers.com forum: If the roles were reversed

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If the roles were reversed and society were matriarchal instead of patriarchal, how this website would have looked like? In a matriarchal society, would women be constantly sending strange pictures and bombarding men with "meet now" requests, or is this behavior more influenced by something else?

I understand this topic can be controversial, but as adults with thoughtful minds, we can engage in a constructive conversation with some light-hearted banter in a respectful manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I imagine it wouldn’t exist

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By *he_13th_ghostWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

Oh would still be the same.

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By *hunky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich

I thought it was another pegging thread.

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By *r_reusMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Given the male suicide rate in this country vastly outstrips the latter, I'd suggest society to be far from 'patriarchal'.

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I genuinely don't think that any kind of speculation would come up with a decent hypothesis. I mean, if the world was completely the opposite then chances are the roles would be reversed also. But human nature is s pesky beast and that would no doubt change things.

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By *elix SightedMan
over a year ago

Cloud 8

Jeez you mean I’d be pestered by more insatiable women? Ugh.

Honestly, chicks, you’ve got tits. I get it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"If the roles were reversed and society were matriarchal instead of patriarchal, how this website would have looked like? In a matriarchal society, would women be constantly sending strange pictures and bombarding men with "meet now" requests, or is this behavior more influenced by something else?

I understand this topic can be controversial, but as adults with thoughtful minds, we can engage in a constructive conversation with some light-hearted banter in a respectful manner.

Where does this assumption that society is 'patriarchal' come from?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"Are you suggesting that patriarchy is responsible for elevating monogamy to a sacred status, and if roles were different, platforms like this wouldn't be necessary? Am I understanding your point correctly?"

Who are you responding to?

You need to use 'reply+quote'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the roles were reversed historically?

So men stayed home and raised kids

Women went out and earned money/went to the pub on Fridays.

Men got a slap if dinner wasn’t on the table for the woman when she got home.

Men eventually got the right to vote.

Then they argued for equal pay.

The rate of violence against men by women would be ever so high if we’re truly reversing everything.

99% of men would be subjected to abuse in their lifetime.

Women would expect men to provide penis whenever they demanded.

Hmm. Don’t like the sound of that.

What would it have been like more realistically?

Equality from the off.

Safety.

Calmness.

Shared workload in employment and family tasks.

Violence would be drastically reduced.

Sex crimes would be drastically reduced.

All genders would be a lot happier

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's hard to say what society would look like under radically different social conditions - we'd all have been socialised very differently and be working within and against different expectations and parameters

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If the roles were reversed historically?

So men stayed home and raised kids

Women went out and earned money/went to the pub on Fridays.

Men got a slap if dinner wasn’t on the table for the woman when she got home.

Men eventually got the right to vote.

Then they argued for equal pay.

The rate of violence against men by women would be ever so high if we’re truly reversing everything.

99% of men would be subjected to abuse in their lifetime.

Women would expect men to provide penis whenever they demanded.

Hmm. Don’t like the sound of that.

What would it have been like more realistically?

Equality from the off.

Safety.

Calmness.

Shared workload in employment and family tasks.

Violence would be drastically reduced.

Sex crimes would be drastically reduced.

All genders would be a lot happier "

Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's hard to say what society would look like under radically different social conditions - we'd all have been socialised very differently and be working within and against different expectations and parameters"

Don’t be sensible, the incels will cry

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I thought it was another pegging thread."

Sorry to disappoint you sir.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the roles were reversed historically?

So men stayed home and raised kids

Women went out and earned money/went to the pub on Fridays.

Men got a slap if dinner wasn’t on the table for the woman when she got home.

Men eventually got the right to vote.

Then they argued for equal pay.

The rate of violence against men by women would be ever so high if we’re truly reversing everything.

99% of men would be subjected to abuse in their lifetime.

Women would expect men to provide penis whenever they demanded.

Hmm. Don’t like the sound of that.

What would it have been like more realistically?

Equality from the off.

Safety.

Calmness.

Shared workload in employment and family tasks.

Violence would be drastically reduced.

Sex crimes would be drastically reduced.

All genders would be a lot happier

Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ? "

What am I backing up with historical facts, my hypothetical role reversal?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Who are you responding to?

You need to use 'reply+quote'"

Thank you. Corrected it now. Apologies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Given the male suicide rate in this country vastly outstrips the latter, I'd suggest society to be far from 'patriarchal'."

Perhaps I would still attribute this to patriarchy, as it falsely associates being a provider with masculinity, significantly affecting male psychology, especially when individuals fall short of society's predefined standards.

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By *obilebottomMan
over a year ago

All over

Whilst both patriarchy and matriarchy both exist in some form or another in segments of society, neither are defining society as a whole. The lines are a lot more blurred now imo.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I genuinely don't think that any kind of speculation would come up with a decent hypothesis. I mean, if the world was completely the opposite then chances are the roles would be reversed also. But human nature is s pesky beast and that would no doubt change things."

Certainly, we can't conclusively prove the hypothesis, but I'm merely exploring ideas and interested in hearing others' perspectives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I understand this topic can be controversial, but as adults with thoughtful minds, we can engage in a constructive conversation with some light-hearted banter in a respectful manner.

Where does this assumption that society is 'patriarchal' come from?"

The assumption might be entirely incorrect, but the prevalent social circumstances strongly suggest it, or perhaps we've been conditioned to accept it—a sort of conspiracy theory. However, logically, based on my observations, it seems there's still a considerable distance to cover before achieving true neutrality, if that's even attainable.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

"Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ? "

But those queens were still women operating in a man's world, and women in that situation have to lean right into the most toxic bits of toxic masculinity.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If the roles were reversed historically?

So men stayed home and raised kids

Women went out and earned money/went to the pub on Fridays.

Men got a slap if dinner wasn’t on the table for the woman when she got home.

Men eventually got the right to vote.

Then they argued for equal pay.

The rate of violence against men by women would be ever so high if we’re truly reversing everything.

99% of men would be subjected to abuse in their lifetime.

Women would expect men to provide penis whenever they demanded.

Hmm. Don’t like the sound of that.

What would it have been like more realistically?

Equality from the off.

Safety.

Calmness.

Shared workload in employment and family tasks.

Violence would be drastically reduced.

Sex crimes would be drastically reduced.

All genders would be a lot happier

Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ?

What am I backing up with historical facts, my hypothetical role reversal? "

The idea that world would have been a better place if roles were reversed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the roles were reversed historically?

So men stayed home and raised kids

Women went out and earned money/went to the pub on Fridays.

Men got a slap if dinner wasn’t on the table for the woman when she got home.

Men eventually got the right to vote.

Then they argued for equal pay.

The rate of violence against men by women would be ever so high if we’re truly reversing everything.

99% of men would be subjected to abuse in their lifetime.

Women would expect men to provide penis whenever they demanded.

Hmm. Don’t like the sound of that.

What would it have been like more realistically?

Equality from the off.

Safety.

Calmness.

Shared workload in employment and family tasks.

Violence would be drastically reduced.

Sex crimes would be drastically reduced.

All genders would be a lot happier

Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ?

What am I backing up with historical facts, my hypothetical role reversal?

The idea that world would have been a better place if roles were reversed. "

Yeah I’m afraid I can’t provide historical proof of something that didn’t happen. Soz

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Interesting. But what made you think so? History is full of unkind queens too. Is it purely based on assumptions or you can back it up with historical facts ?

But those queens were still women operating in a man's world, and women in that situation have to lean right into the most toxic bits of toxic masculinity."

Fair point. However, it could be the inherent nature of power dynamics where being in control necessitates a lack of kindness and ruthlessness. This dynamic may be independent of gender as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As the distribution of genitalia remains unchanged it probably wouldn’t make any difference..

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