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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. " | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be" it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor | |||
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"What is the most important to you? If you had the choice between a nice home or a nice car what would you choose? Tom had to go to a part of town last night which is predominantly occupied by the poor people yet he was surprised that some of the cars outside these rabbit hutch like houses were pretty tasty. So what would you choose,? A nice house or a nice car. So many people leasing cars these days. What's going on here guys? " Image is very important to a lot of people - car, cloths is what most people see. You could live in an old tin shack but nobody would know unless they visited. Cars, clothes, jewellery etc is what most people see you in and judge you. Like any social media and real life people want to be seen a certain light and not in true light | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. " We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded. | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded." In other words if you’re good with words you’re excused from being a dickhead? That’s a lovely way to tolerate poor choices. Yesterday someone made a joke that sent others to great lengths to assume that person was expressing a hatred towards others. It was far more innocuous than this pigeon-holed mentality expressed here but that was attacked severely and this is excused. Right, I get the score. | |||
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"What is the most important to you? If you had the choice between a nice home or a nice car what would you choose? Tom had to go to a part of town last night which is predominantly occupied by the poor people yet he was surprised that some of the cars outside these rabbit hutch like houses were pretty tasty. So what would you choose,? A nice house or a nice car. So many people leasing cars these days. What's going on here guys? " House. I lease a car though. What’s wrong with that? I got fed up of stuff going wrong on cars. Now I get a new one every 2 years. Much prefer it. | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded." I’m not sure wordsmith is the word I’d use | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded." I believe Hitler was a great wordsmith too! | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded. In other words if you’re good with words you’re excused from being a dickhead? That’s a lovely way to tolerate poor choices. Yesterday someone made a joke that sent others to great lengths to assume that person was expressing a hatred towards others. It was far more innocuous than this pigeon-holed mentality expressed here but that was attacked severely and this is excused. Right, I get the score. " What was the joke ? | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. " Tom isn't being judgemental,he is using a couple of words to set context instead of making us read half a volume of PC bollocks.Poor are poor however you word it and a small house is small whatever alternative description you use.Perhaps the real narrow mindedness and judgement is crashing in to critique Tom without regard for the context. | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded. I’m not sure wordsmith is the word I’d use " Although he's a troll he is my favourite troll from Essex! | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded. I’m not sure wordsmith is the word I’d use Although he's a troll he is my favourite troll from Essex! " Aww Shucks... | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded. I believe Hitler was a great wordsmith too!" He was also teetotal,a non smoker and vegetarian,perfect guy for today. | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor " What are the reasons? | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? " Intrigued too, love from an old friend | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? " The Tory Government? | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. " | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. Tom isn't being judgemental,he is using a couple of words to set context instead of making us read half a volume of PC bollocks.Poor are poor however you word it and a small house is small whatever alternative description you use.Perhaps the real narrow mindedness and judgement is crashing in to critique Tom without regard for the context." Its not giving me judgmental vibes necessarily, Tom exhibits more of a superiority complex. | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. " I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. " once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. " Yeah, you’re missing resale. No amount of upkeep will keep a cars resale ability Houses do pretty well in that area | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple " I’ve always said buy but run it into the ground Might look into renting though, as you might be right | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? " bad investments, like putting all your money into depreciating assets, little habits that cost. Lack of self investing or leaving your kids better than you were brought up. It's a sliding scale. | |||
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"Damn those poor people. With cars. And other luzlxury items like flatscreen tellies and phones. " Amazing what you can get on benefits.You can get a holiday to Cuba if you don't pay the over £4k gas and electricity bill you have run up. | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple " It's simple? So those who can't afford to buy a house are just bad with money? | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple It's simple? So those who can't afford to buy a house are just bad with money? " It’s extremely simple You’ve made it not simple by putting words in someone’s mouth | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? " In my experience people are poor because they are not rich. That sounds stupid but it is an important distinction. So how do you go from poor to rich? Most people who are no longer poor are no longer poor because they own things that appreciate in value or generate them an income without them having to spend time on it. In modern times that means shares. They have probably set up a company that has done well and so own shares in that. If you are working (even with a high salary) then you are limited in how much wealth you can create by the hours you have available. Poor people work for others. Rich people have others working for them. | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple It's simple? So those who can't afford to buy a house are just bad with money? It’s extremely simple You’ve made it not simple by putting words in someone’s mouth " I haven't put any words in someone's mouth. Someone acted as if cars cost money and houses make money, conveniently missing out the point that houses cost money too, which lots of people don't have. | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple It's simple? So those who can't afford to buy a house are just bad with money? It’s extremely simple You’ve made it not simple by putting words in someone’s mouth I haven't put any words in someone's mouth. Someone acted as if cars cost money and houses make money, conveniently missing out the point that houses cost money too, which lots of people don't have." You clearly have. Reread it and ask yourself where they said people without houses are just bad with money Honestly, your clutching at straws here to find offence in just good financial advice | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government?" It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government? It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case " true, I am not really saying it's a person's fault. But let's put it this way, the shop brighthouse for example who shopped there? | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. " I whole heartedly concur with you Bella. I live in what could be described as a "Rabbit Hutch" But it's my rabbit hutch and I love it. I worked hard for it and due to divorce I've probably paid for it twice. I love the area its in and it has an amazing community around. internally it's my little Palace. Externally it's functional. No one would think of breaking in to it.. Many of us choose to live in houses like mine and we're proud of them. As for cars.. I never buy new. I don't see the point. As long as its functional and reliable and comfortable, it'll do for me. I've got better things to spend my money on. No, I'm not poor. No, I'm not rich. Yes, I'm happy Please choose your words wisely next time | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple " Hmmm, my car is 06 and not yet on the scrap heap, though many think it should be! | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government? It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case true, I am not really saying it's a person's fault. But let's put it this way, the shop brighthouse for example who shopped there? " People who couldn't afford a new fridge anywhere else and were exploited by a company that was willing to count essential benefits as 'income.' | |||
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"Cars cost money, houses on the whole make money. Most people I know don't care about the car they drive until they can pay for it with a months income. I must be missing something. Whilst houses do/can make money, they also cost quite a bit of money too. once a house is ten years older what's it worth? Once a car leaves the forecourt of the seller what's it worth? Unless you are extremely lucky and pick a car that will go up in money a ten year old car isn't worth the srap value. Rent a car, buy a house it's simple It's simple? So those who can't afford to buy a house are just bad with money? It’s extremely simple You’ve made it not simple by putting words in someone’s mouth I haven't put any words in someone's mouth. Someone acted as if cars cost money and houses make money, conveniently missing out the point that houses cost money too, which lots of people don't have. You clearly have. Reread it and ask yourself where they said people without houses are just bad with money Honestly, your clutching at straws here to find offence in just good financial advice " I'm not actually offended in the slightest. This is only fab! Someone implied that the difference between a car and a house was that cars cost money and houses make money. I added that another more significant difference was the cost of a house, which makes them unattainable for many. | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government? It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case true, I am not really saying it's a person's fault. But let's put it this way, the shop brighthouse for example who shopped there? People who couldn't afford a new fridge anywhere else and were exploited by a company that was willing to count essential benefits as 'income.' " Those companies/firms played on people’s vulnerabilities | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government? It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case true, I am not really saying it's a person's fault. But let's put it this way, the shop brighthouse for example who shopped there? People who couldn't afford a new fridge anywhere else and were exploited by a company that was willing to count essential benefits as 'income.' Those companies/firms played on people’s vulnerabilities " Brighthouse were fucking corrupt. Thankfully, it backfired and they collapsed. | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? The Tory Government? It was made to sound like it was lifestyle choices which is not always the case true, I am not really saying it's a person's fault. But let's put it this way, the shop brighthouse for example who shopped there? People who couldn't afford a new fridge anywhere else and were exploited by a company that was willing to count essential benefits as 'income.' Those companies/firms played on people’s vulnerabilities Brighthouse were fucking corrupt. Thankfully, it backfired and they collapsed." I don't think it backfired, it made the owners very very rich. Companies can be run into the ground while the owners pick it dry look at topshop | |||
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"Damn those poor people. With cars. And other luzlxury items like flatscreen tellies and phones. Amazing what you can get on benefits.You can get a holiday to Cuba if you don't pay the over £4k gas and electricity bill you have run up." We both had experience on benefits For the Mr, it was just due to being made redundant, took him about 6 months to find another suitable job so he claimed JSA for about 4 months (he had to wait till he was 18). For me, I was on IS as a single parent after a relationship breakdown, 2 children aged 2&4, not many bills tbh because we had to live in a couple of different shelters. So we had money "disposable" cash I suppose you could say... damn, that holiday to Cuba would have been nice! | |||
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"What is the most important to you? If you had the choice between a nice home or a nice car what would you choose? Tom had to go to a part of town last night which is predominantly occupied by the poor people yet he was surprised that some of the cars outside these rabbit hutch like houses were pretty tasty. So what would you choose,? A nice house or a nice car. So many people leasing cars these days. What's going on here guys? " If they are stupid enough to spend their spare money on leasing a car to make the neighbours think they are rich then good for them. I have colleagues like this. Any tiny increase in interest rates and they are eating dry bread. But their car and house look good so...... | |||
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"What is the most important to you? If you had the choice between a nice home or a nice car what would you choose? Tom had to go to a part of town last night which is predominantly occupied by the poor people yet he was surprised that some of the cars outside these rabbit hutch like houses were pretty tasty. So what would you choose,? A nice house or a nice car. So many people leasing cars these days. What's going on here guys? " Home because it's a greater investment. | |||
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" ….. The Tory Government?" . Boom….there it is. I was wondering how quickly we’d get to this. Why is it all right to be so easily offended by someone using the term ‘poor’ in some way but entirely excusable for everyone to spew venom and cliched rhetoric about the ‘rich’ and Tories whenever they want to? M | |||
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" ….. The Tory Government? . Boom….there it is. I was wondering how quickly we’d get to this. Why is it all right to be so easily offended by someone using the term ‘poor’ in some way but entirely excusable for everyone to spew venom and cliched rhetoric about the ‘rich’ and Tories whenever they want to? M" No one chooses to be poor but poor political choices for parties that hurt the average person are entirely on your control | |||
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" ….. The Tory Government? . Boom….there it is. I was wondering how quickly we’d get to this. Why is it all right to be so easily offended by someone using the term ‘poor’ in some way but entirely excusable for everyone to spew venom and cliched rhetoric about the ‘rich’ and Tories whenever they want to? M" Where's the venom? | |||
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" ….. No one chooses to be poor but poor political choices for parties that hurt the average person are entirely on your control " Define ‘average’. M | |||
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" ….. Where's the venom? " I didn’t say it was in this thread, necessarily. It’s whenever the cliche can be thrown around, it’s perfectly acceptable. M | |||
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"I'm still surprised that some people haven't worked out the OPs style yet. It's deliberately provocative. Take the bait or don't. You choose. Gbat " Best Batty avoid Toms posts then | |||
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" ….. Where's the venom? I didn’t say it was in this thread, necessarily. It’s whenever the cliche can be thrown around, it’s perfectly acceptable. M" The implication was there, so seems a bit unnecessary. Tories have been in power for over 13 years. If there's an increase in poverty in that time then wouldn't it be accurate to suggest that government decisions play a part? | |||
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"Best Batty avoid Toms posts then " Or doesn't. Choices, choices. Gbat | |||
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"Put my money in property and drive a second hand car " In reality, we all drive 2nd hand cars. The only people to drive brand new cars are the ones who deliver them to the dealerships. | |||
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" ... In reality, we all drive 2nd hand cars. The only people to drive brand new cars are the ones who deliver them to the dealerships." .. the short distance from the transporter to the parking lot round the back. I was going to add the time wasting fantasists who take them for test drives but the dealers aren't stupid, they only have a few for that purpose so they don't all get farted into and slobbered over.. | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? In my experience people are poor because they are not rich. That sounds stupid but it is an important distinction. So how do you go from poor to rich? Most people who are no longer poor are no longer poor because they own things that appreciate in value or generate them an income without them having to spend time on it. In modern times that means shares. They have probably set up a company that has done well and so own shares in that. If you are working (even with a high salary) then you are limited in how much wealth you can create by the hours you have available. Poor people work for others. Rich people have others working for them. " The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Because the system is gamed that way. | |||
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"It must be said your choice of words are Occupied by poor people Rabbit hutch like houses These people may be economically poor, but you’re poor of mind. As in judgmental and narrow minded. That’s far more poor than some of those people will ever be. We might not agree with Tom but you cannot dispute he is one of the best wordsmiths on the forums. His choice of words is always spot on if he wants to get a reaction and he usually succeeds. That is a skill to be applauded." | |||
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"Never judge The car could be on finance or a company car The house could be where they want to be it will be finance. And probably why they can't afford a house. A house can last generations a car not so much. There are reasons the poor are poor What are the reasons? In my experience people are poor because they are not rich. That sounds stupid but it is an important distinction. So how do you go from poor to rich? Most people who are no longer poor are no longer poor because they own things that appreciate in value or generate them an income without them having to spend time on it. In modern times that means shares. They have probably set up a company that has done well and so own shares in that. If you are working (even with a high salary) then you are limited in how much wealth you can create by the hours you have available. Poor people work for others. Rich people have others working for them. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Because the system is gamed that way. " I believe it’s more an evolutionary thing rather than the “system”, all countries have rich and poor | |||
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