FabSwingers.com forum: Die Hard

By *odders88 OP Man
49 weeks ago

Northampton

Christmas Movie or not? For me…absolutely…tell me otherwise…yippe ki yay

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By *partharmonyCouple
49 weeks ago

Ruislip

Easy. It depends what you mean by Christmas movie.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
49 weeks ago

North West

Christmas film!

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By *ackandsashaCouple
49 weeks ago

West Dublin

Yup. Should be watched every Christmas by everyone.

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

Yes!

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By *ouple4PlayXCouple
49 weeks ago

Essex

Absolutely!

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By *odders88 OP Man
49 weeks ago

Northampton

Your stereotypical Christmas movie…Scrooge, Home Alone, Grinch, Die Hard…plus it’s set at a Christmas party…and it snows!!

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By *odders88 OP Man
49 weeks ago

Northampton

Loving the replies…looks like we’re all singing at the same gangbang!!

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By *orny-DJMan
49 weeks ago

Leigh-on-Sea

Well, Bruce Willis said it wasn't

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

"Well, Bruce Willis said it wasn't"

The writer said it is

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Christmas Movie or not? For me…absolutely…tell me otherwise…yippe ki yay"
all day long a Xmas movie

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Hubster has always agreed it's a Christmas movie.

I think it's an action movie

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Funnily enough, I watched Die Hard and Die Hard 2 this evening.

Die Hard is definitely a Christmas film in my humble opinion

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By *ornLordMan
49 weeks ago

Wiltshire and London

Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie.

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By *ornLordMan
49 weeks ago

Wiltshire and London

"Hubster has always agreed it's a Christmas movie.

I think it's an action movie

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By *inky ChefMan
49 weeks ago

Norwich

It's not a Christmas movie.

I'm allergic to Christmas movies and I like Die Hard.

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By *gent CoulsonMan
49 weeks ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

Nest Christmas movie ever

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By *iftyshadesofbrownMan
49 weeks ago

coventry

Absolutely. It’s a classic.

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By *ries AngelWoman
49 weeks ago

poole

Absolutely, ippie ki aye

Apologies for the spelling which is shocking

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie."

So could lots of Xmas. Movies, just replace Christmas with another national holiday and there you have it. Even Christmas Carol is easy to make in to an Easter movie.

Die hard has just as much right, in fact even more right to be an Xmas movie that It's a wonderful life.

In fact die hard has more to do with Christmas than even White Christmas.

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
49 weeks ago

Wales/ All over UK

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie."

Same can be said of Home Alone, which is generally considered to be a Christmas film

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By *ornLordMan
49 weeks ago

Wiltshire and London

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie.

So could lots of Xmas. Movies, just replace Christmas with another national holiday and there you have it. Even Christmas Carol is easy to make in to an Easter movie.

Die hard has just as much right, in fact even more right to be an Xmas movie that It's a wonderful life.

In fact die hard has more to do with Christmas than even White Christmas. "

So it's a Christmas movie because it is less not a Christmas movie than other so-called Christmas movies.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
49 weeks ago

North West

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie.

So could lots of Xmas. Movies, just replace Christmas with another national holiday and there you have it. Even Christmas Carol is easy to make in to an Easter movie.

Die hard has just as much right, in fact even more right to be an Xmas movie that It's a wonderful life.

In fact die hard has more to do with Christmas than even White Christmas. "

An Easter Carol?! Nahhhhhhhh. The "message" behind the Scroogery doesn't fit into Easter. And the songs would suck ass.

But I agree DH IS a Christmas film!

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie.

So could lots of Xmas. Movies, just replace Christmas with another national holiday and there you have it. Even Christmas Carol is easy to make in to an Easter movie.

Die hard has just as much right, in fact even more right to be an Xmas movie that It's a wonderful life.

In fact die hard has more to do with Christmas than even White Christmas.

An Easter Carol?! Nahhhhhhhh. The "message" behind the Scroogery doesn't fit into Easter. And the songs would suck ass.

But I agree DH IS a Christmas film! "

It's not Christmas he hates. Well it is but it's not just Christmas he hates. He hates people and all year around. It just so happens to be he had shitty christmasthrough his life. Replace that with any other time, even his birthday being shitty and it still works.

It's not about getting him to like Christmas, it's about getting him to be a nicer person. You can remove the Christmas backdrop and the story can still happen any time of the year.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
49 weeks ago

North West

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie.

So could lots of Xmas. Movies, just replace Christmas with another national holiday and there you have it. Even Christmas Carol is easy to make in to an Easter movie.

Die hard has just as much right, in fact even more right to be an Xmas movie that It's a wonderful life.

In fact die hard has more to do with Christmas than even White Christmas.

An Easter Carol?! Nahhhhhhhh. The "message" behind the Scroogery doesn't fit into Easter. And the songs would suck ass.

But I agree DH IS a Christmas film!

It's not about getting him to like Christmas, it's about getting him to be a nicer person. You can remove the Christmas backdrop and the story can still happen any time of the year. "

I mean the whole "keep the spirit/meaning of Christmas now and at all times of year", which is what Mr Scrooge decides to do, after being haunted x3. Easter has a different flavour. There's no real "spirit" of Easter, unless promising to keep thinking about dying for salvation, a spot of crucifixion and suchlike are up your street?!

Basically, a Christmas Carol works with the whole spirit of Christmas thing and how good, kind, benevolent people influence a miserly one positively. And a spot of good, Christian "but you'll be chained in hell" too.

But yes, lots of other films could be de-Christmassed and still work.

I'm not sure Home Alone could. Being alone at Christmas is extra bad (in society's eyes) and that whole journey home to Chicago for his mother would've been a piece of piss in the middle of May!

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

But you just remove the spirit of Christmas stuff. The plot of the movie still works regardless of Xmas, the plot points still hit which is exactly the issue people have with Die Hard - despite it also being able to be interpreted about a man doing all he can and risking his life for his family to be together at christmas. Scrooges story still works without Christmas.

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By *achelTheAnalSlutTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Haywards Heath

Definitely a Christmas movie... it's not Christmas until you've seen Hams Gruber fall from Nakatomi Plaza!!

Back in 2015 when that meme started doing the rounds my (now ex) wife and I polled our Facebook friends to determine which was the best Christmas movie: Love Actually (her choice) or Die Hard. Naturally Die Hard won so we watched that and I posted a photo to Facebook of Hans Gruber falling from Nakatomi Plaza.

The following year we watched it again and while we were watching it I looked at Facebook memories and realised that by chance we were watching it on the same day in December! So ever since then December 19th has been Die Hard day! And this year my eldest was old enough to watch it with me as well

It's got to the point where a friend at work is doing it by proxy... it's not Christmas for him until he's seen my post about how it's not Christmas until I see Hans Gruber fall from Nakatomi Plaza!

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By *mf123Man
49 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

Yes but scrooged is better

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
49 weeks ago

Leeds

It happens at Christmas. Therefore Christmas film.

The mr

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By *andadbodMan
49 weeks ago

Liverpool

"It happens at Christmas. Therefore Christmas film.

The mr "

Lethal Weapon and First Blood both based at christmas, both christmas movies

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
49 weeks ago

Leeds

Oh yeah I forgot about old Johnny rambo.

Haven’t seen it for years but lethal weapon doesn’t happen at Christmas does it ?

The mr

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By *andadbodMan
49 weeks ago

Liverpool

"Oh yeah I forgot about old Johnny rambo.

Haven’t seen it for years but lethal weapon doesn’t happen at Christmas does it ?

The mr "

He’s in the middle of a christmas tree lot in his opening scene

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
49 weeks ago

Leeds

"Oh yeah I forgot about old Johnny rambo.

Haven’t seen it for years but lethal weapon doesn’t happen at Christmas does it ?

The mr

He’s in the middle of a christmas tree lot in his opening scene

Oh yeah so he is.

So yeah lethal weapon is a Christmas film.

The mr

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By *neteaminDevonMan
49 weeks ago

Bridgwater

Even his wife is called Holly.

Plus have you seen what Disney+ have done with Alfie Boe and a choir singing about Die Hard ? Just google it.

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
49 weeks ago

London or Bedford

"Christmas Movie or not? For me…absolutely…tell me otherwise…yippe ki yay"

No.

Christmas is not essential for the plot or any character arc/growth.

A Nightmare Before Christmas is a Christmas movie, because moral of the story is...

“No matter if you fail at delivering festive joy, the effort is all that matters”

Die Hard has no Christmas moral.

Die Hard could be set at anytime of year & you’d have the same film.

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
49 weeks ago

London or Bedford

HOWEVER, I ADMIT...

By that rational - Halloween is not a Halloween movie. Infact when Halloween was first written, it wasn’t set on Halloween. And it was called The Babysitter Murders.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Its the BEST Christmas movie.

Fact.

End of.

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By *eordieJeansCouple
49 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

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By *j202293Man
49 weeks ago

South Wales

Yippee-ki-yay motherfucker

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By *odders88 OP Man
49 weeks ago

Northampton

Cheers to all on the forum…some great comments…but it is still a Christmas movie!!

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

No. Bruce Willis said it's not and we shouldn't argue with him really.

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

It was released in February so it's a valentine's film.

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film."

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994

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By *eordieJeansCouple
49 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994"

And has no mention of Christmas and is about suicide.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
49 weeks ago

Like gremlins, die hard is a movie based during Christmas time, IT IS NOT!! A Christmas movie.

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By *orthernTruckerMan
49 weeks ago

Trucker (live in Newcastle)

Die Hard could not be set any other time of the year for a number of reasons.

1- they need the hostages but not a full building, limited security on too.

2- when else would there be a low number of workers inside that have the info they need other then an Xmas party. There wouldn't be.

3- they need the quiet streets, ie when everyone's home for a discreet get away and also to enter the building without being seen by many

4- the quieter time for a slower response from police due to lower staff numbers

5- they need everyone to have their guards down, so when people are tipsy or not really switched on because they least suspect anything to happen christmas eve

Also there's the 3 main chriatmas themes to all chriatmas movies

1- hard working parent having to go through hell on Christmas eve to be reuinted with family

2- the moment at the end, where it snows (well paper falls and looks that way) on the 2 in love.

3- there's a Christmas miracle... as in he some how survives all that and saves people

(Can you tell I was sat on a loading bay for 5 hours yesterday already having this discussion elsewhere)

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994

And has no mention of Christmas and is about suicide."

John McLane throws a guy off a building and generally shoots everything. Fact doesn't change that it was not released near Christmas so is not a Christmas film.

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

"Like gremlins, die hard is a movie based during Christmas time, IT IS NOT!! A Christmas movie."

Yes!!!! I like you

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By *loydyMan
49 weeks ago

British

Home alone is there no social services in America

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By *eordieJeansCouple
49 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994

And has no mention of Christmas and is about suicide.

John McLane throws a guy off a building and generally shoots everything. Fact doesn't change that it was not released near Christmas so is not a Christmas film. "

LadBaby have 5 Christmas number ones. Are they Christmas songs?

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By *ucianpoundCouple
49 weeks ago

Cap d’Agde, France

Scrooge (1951) with Alistair Sim is the ultimate Christmas movie (and best version)

But other ‘feel good’ movies from this period qualify. The Card (1952) with Alec Guinness and Petula Clark (still alive) and Hobson’s Choice (1954) a brilliant ensemble cast including Prunella Scales (still alive)

So many superb British films from this era that knock spots of all the American dross from nowadays.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

100%

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By *r TriomanMan
49 weeks ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

Set at Christmas time, has snow, has Christmas music, it's about being alone from family at Christmas and ends with the star being reunited with their family at Christmas.... Sounds like the plot for at least 90% of all Christmas films so yep, a Christmas film!

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By *nterblueMan
49 weeks ago

manchester

I'll admit that I watch it any time of year, its a great film.

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994

And has no mention of Christmas and is about suicide.

John McLane throws a guy off a building and generally shoots everything. Fact doesn't change that it was not released near Christmas so is not a Christmas film.

LadBaby have 5 Christmas number ones. Are they Christmas songs?

Yes

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By *oofy321Man
49 weeks ago

moon base zero

So is gremlins a Christmas film?

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By *eordieJeansCouple
49 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"If Stay Another Day by East 17 is a Christmas song then Die Hard is 100% a Christmas film.

But it was released in November and was actually Christmas No1 in 1994

And has no mention of Christmas and is about suicide.

John McLane throws a guy off a building and generally shoots everything. Fact doesn't change that it was not released near Christmas so is not a Christmas film.

LadBaby have 5 Christmas number ones. Are they Christmas songs?

Yes"

Sound of the Underground by Girls Aloud?

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By *ezoMan
49 weeks ago

The Kingdom

"Could be set at any time of the year. Not a Christmas movie."

"Now I have a machine gun, ho ho ho."

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
49 weeks ago

Wales/ All over UK

"So is gremlins a Christmas film?"

Absolutely. Set at Christmas, and the Mogwai is actually bought as a Christmas present

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By *enSiskoMan
49 weeks ago

Cestus 3

there is even a Christmas rap at the beginning.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
49 weeks ago

durham

The definition of a christmas movie is that it should be set within the festive season.The release date of a film has no bearing as to what makes it a, Christmas movie. "It's, Wonderfull Life" wasn't released at Christmas time

It is up to the individual as to what they decide is actually a christmas movie.

So on the basis that Die Hard is a christmas film then On Her Majesty's, Secret Service also comes into that category as this is the one James Bond film set during the festive period

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By *earded-OneMan
49 weeks ago

Woolwich

It’s a Christmas film

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By *hynot3Man
49 weeks ago

Middlesbrough

I would say 80% yeah

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By *affeine DuskMan
49 weeks ago

Caerphilly

Written using Christmas story tropes = it's a Christmas story.

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By *ife NinjaMan
49 weeks ago

Dunfermline

Deffo Christmas film

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Christmas Movie or not? For me…absolutely…tell me otherwise…yippe ki yay"

Yup, it's a Christmas movie.

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By *entlemanrogueMan
49 weeks ago

Motherwell

"Christmas Movie or not? For me…absolutely…tell me otherwise…yippe ki yay"

Yes it is, as is The gremlins.

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By *xydadbodMan
49 weeks ago

Milton keynes

To me yes, but to many.. not.. no idea why not though.. but according to Bruce Willis, its not a Christmas movie so whose gonna argue with him lol

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
49 weeks ago

"So is gremlins a Christmas film?"

No!!!! It's a horror/comedy based at Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

No. If it is then by the same logic, so is Lethal Weapon.

For a movie to be a Christmas movie, it needs to have been marketed and advertised as one, during its original release. Die Hard wasn't in any sense of the word.

It's a film, some like to watch at Christmas, but is it a Christmas film is the normal traditional sense? Absolutely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

There's no debate to be had here. Its a Christmas movie and that's final

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"There's no debate to be had here. Its a Christmas movie and that's final"

It's been a debate for over twenty years, I don't think it'll be put to rest on a swingers site.

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By *riendlyStarMan
49 weeks ago

Portsmouth

Absolutely not a Christmas movie, Bruce willis said himself

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By *entlemanrogueMan
49 weeks ago

Motherwell

Parade com has Die hard at 6 and Gremlins at 8 in their top 16 80s Christmas movies

I guess that is due to popular opinion.

Just cos Bruce Willis was in it, doesn't mean he get the deciding vote.

How anyone can say Gremlins isnt a Christmas movie is beyond me, Gizmo is literally a Christmas present. What else do you need?

the fat man, reindeers, elves?

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

How can people say die hard and gremlins aren't Xmas movies!!!! What is wrong with you people!!?

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By *entlemanrogueMan
49 weeks ago

Motherwell

"How can people say die hard and gremlins aren't Xmas movies!!!! What is wrong with you people!!?"

Exactly.

Bless you little candy cane stockings

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Die Hard was originally released in the summer to be a summer block buster so it's not a Christmas movie just a movie set at Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"So is gremlins a Christmas film?

No!!!! It's a horror/comedy based at Christmas "

It was released in December. It's a Christmas movie.

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

"Die Hard was originally released in the summer to be a summer block buster so it's not a Christmas movie just a movie set at Christmas.

Godzilla minus one is a Christmas movie! Plus all 3 lord of the rings. American sniper. The Disney star wars trilogy. Titanic.

Nice

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By *lasphemousGirlWoman
49 weeks ago

Cambs

Totally a Christmas movie

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

The best way to answer is

There's Christmas films, where films are centred around Christmas Eve/Christmas Day with the final act usually being Christmas Day.

Then there's Christmasy films, which are films based around the Holiday Season, and display various little elements of Christmas; Christmas decorations, songs on the radio etc.

Is Die hard a Christmas film? No. Is it a Christmasy film? Yes.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

Defo a festive movie...for sure

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Die Hard was originally released in the summer to be a summer block buster so it's not a Christmas movie just a movie set at Christmas.

Godzilla minus one is a Christmas movie! Plus all 3 lord of the rings. American sniper. The Disney star wars trilogy. Titanic.

Nice"

Yes, quite, indeed

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By *stwo2023Couple
49 weeks ago

Worcester

"Parade com has Die hard at 6 and Gremlins at 8 in their top 16 80s Christmas movies

I guess that is due to popular opinion.

Just cos Bruce Willis was in it, doesn't mean he get the deciding vote.

How anyone can say Gremlins isnt a Christmas movie is beyond me, Gizmo is literally a Christmas present. What else do you need?

the fat man, reindeers, elves?

Yes. Christmas things in Christmas movies. Just because someone gets a birthday present in a movie doesn't mean it's a birthday movie

Evie

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Travelling

"The best way to answer is

There's Christmas films, where films are centred around Christmas Eve/Christmas Day with the final act usually being Christmas Day.

Then there's Christmasy films, which are films based around the Holiday Season, and display various little elements of Christmas; Christmas decorations, songs on the radio etc.

Is Die hard a Christmas film? No. Is it a Christmasy film? Yes. "

Takes place on christmas eve. Potentially ends on christmas day

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By *tylebender03Man
49 weeks ago

Manchester

Yeah so is Lethal Weapon

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By *enSiskoMan
48 weeks ago

Cestus 3

"The definition of a christmas movie is that it should be set within the festive season.The release date of a film has no bearing as to what makes it a, Christmas movie. "It's, Wonderfull Life" wasn't released at Christmas time

It is up to the individual as to what they decide is actually a christmas movie.

So on the basis that Die Hard is a christmas film then On Her Majesty's, Secret Service also comes into that category as this is the one James Bond film set during the festive period

Dam straight

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