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"Nobody. It's included in their wage. I paid for my overpriced meal/service included already as part of the experiance. Do you tip the store clerk that was a pleasant and exceptionally good service? Their "good service" is part of their job role, and plays a part in me (along with others) returning to keep them in a job. If service is bad, I won't return to spend money there. " Cough cough, tight bastard | |||
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"We tip good service. We're unlikely to tip anyone who earns more than us though. I always tip the apprentice in the hair salon, never the stylist she doesn't need my measly fiver " I am the same. I tip for good service so a bit rarely these days as service in many places is abysmal. I do get some chocolates for everyone at hairdressers but forgot to do so this time so will do it after xmas and will probably be appreciated more. | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus?" From my Boss, yes. Clients, no. | |||
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"Nobody. It's included in their wage. I paid for my overpriced meal/service included already as part of the experiance. Do you tip the store clerk that was a pleasant and exceptionally good service? Their "good service" is part of their job role, and plays a part in me (along with others) returning to keep them in a job. If service is bad, I won't return to spend money there. " I'm with you on that. I tip now and then but since I've stopped carrying cash. tipping is forced upon me and I hate the round up option at tills... We're not America. Restaurants sometimes get a tip though. | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus?" I get payed for my work, I do not expect further remuneration, beside I’m self employed and my boss is a tight arse | |||
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"Nobody. It's included in their wage. I paid for my overpriced meal/service included already as part of the experiance. Do you tip the store clerk that was a pleasant and exceptionally good service? Their "good service" is part of their job role, and plays a part in me (along with others) returning to keep them in a job. If service is bad, I won't return to spend money there. Cough cough, tight bastard " Why do you call him tight ? | |||
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"Tip most people, its nice to give for good service bin men Postie restaurant staff We go out with 2 other couples who are really tight with tipping. if the bill is say £148.50 - they will round it up to £150 and say keep the change" So you are unhappy with the small tip and put a lot more in ? Cos 148.50 @ 15% is £22 + so you really should have put £8 in in any case. Good not being tight there that man. | |||
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"When you had your new kitchen put in did you go and give the plasterer a bit of bunce ? An Asda Lorry driver ..... did you stop next to him at the services and give him some of your hard earned ? Why not ? We ALL work and most workers have a lot more money than you or me .... Do you shove a fiver or two into the pocket of a nurse ? Is she/he worth less than your waiter ? What about McDonalds.... anyone tip there ? It's a throwback to serfdom. You just save their bosses some wages is all.... Stupid idea. Pay people a living wage. " Yes! Pay people a living wage | |||
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"We tip good service in restaurants but nowhere else. I saw the hotel thread and hadn't thought about tipping the housekeeping staff. I think they, like many in the service industry don't get paid well enough for their hard and frequently unappreciated work. Nita" They don't get paid enough, you are right. Very few people actually get paid enough. But also why is it on other people that don't get paid enough to make up for the short comings of low wages, which is the responsibility of their employer? | |||
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"We tip good service in restaurants but nowhere else. I saw the hotel thread and hadn't thought about tipping the housekeeping staff. I think they, like many in the service industry don't get paid well enough for their hard and frequently unappreciated work. Nita They don't get paid enough, you are right. Very few people actually get paid enough. But also why is it on other people that don't get paid enough to make up for the short comings of low wages, which is the responsibility of their employer?" I don't think it is... thankfully we don't have the same system as the USA where not tipping is virtually a criminal offence. However, I do think it can be nice to give a little extra personal appreciation. Nita | |||
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"When I go into the hairdressers..... guess what ...... I expect them to cut my hair. The price for that service is in the window. " When I grow up, I'm going to marry you one day, GrannyC! | |||
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"When I go into the hairdressers..... guess what ...... I expect them to cut my hair. The price for that service is in the window. When I grow up, I'm going to marry you one day, GrannyC!" You'd better be fit .... | |||
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"I need to take this one step further cos...... it does my little swede in when people think they are virtuous for tipping ...... Let's take an ordinary non exaggerated day..... and imagine I tip everyone who does a 'service' of sorts for me. 1. Into chemist pick up prescription TIP 2. Go to doctors to TIP them for writing the script TIP 3. Go to newsagents for stamps TIP 4. Walk down to station and get train see the driver TIP and then see the guard TIP 5. Go through the ticket barrier TIP the woman who stands by the gate. 6. Nip into coffee shop buy coffee TIP 7. Go to M and S buy something TIP 8. Go to Primark buy something TIP 9. Go to Cinema buy ticket TIP 10 Get shown to seat TIP 11. Buy some drinks n snacks TIP 12. Someone cleans up as we leave TIP 13. Go to the station for coffee TIP 14. Go back through barrier TIP 15. Get train TIP the drive then TIP the guard. 16. See the cleaner on the station TIP and that is just a day of doing nothing much... " You missed tipping all the security staff | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus?" I didn't get a Christmas bonus in my most recent job. Employers giving staff a bonus is quite different to people giving their peers money for a job they're already paid to do. | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus? From my Boss, yes. Clients, no." But that’s your job | |||
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"Nobody. It's included in their wage. I paid for my overpriced meal/service included already as part of the experiance. Do you tip the store clerk that was a pleasant and exceptionally good service? Their "good service" is part of their job role, and plays a part in me (along with others) returning to keep them in a job. If service is bad, I won't return to spend money there. " This. I fail to understand why you would tip someone on their ability to carry a plate. The one that deserves a tip in a restaurant is the chef. They put in all the work and thought into your meal. The server merely writes what you want, carries it to the table and then pockets the tip. Rarely is it shared with the chef!! | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you" Alternatively their employers could pay them accordingly | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus? From my Boss, yes. Clients, no. But that’s your job" Exactly. So if my boss wants to give me a bonus that's on him (example restaurant manager/owner) giving me a bonus in addition for doing a good job that's up to him. Not the client (example customer I served) giving me a tip for the extra effort put in to my service for them. | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you" A fiver from everyone they serve in December? Thats an extra £250 a day if they're serving 50 covers and that's a very low ball estimate for dec! £1250 bonus on top of wages over a 5 day week! They're serving food (yes I've waited tables, I know how shit it is) not saving lives! I think service staff seem to think they're doing something more difficult or important than anybody else when they're not really. It's pretty stressful yes, but it's not the hardest thing I've done by a country mile and definitely doesn't warrant those kind of bonuses! | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you" Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. " Service isn’t always included, many places still don’t include it and many restaurants can’t afford to pay staff their wage, let alone raises or bonuses as you so enjoy. It’s rather callous to just say ‘they should get paid more’ when you pay £30 for a bottle of wine but baulk at a tip for the person that’s brought you your food and put up with you staring at her ass for the duration | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. Service isn’t always included, many places still don’t include it and many restaurants can’t afford to pay staff their wage, let alone raises or bonuses as you so enjoy. It’s rather callous to just say ‘they should get paid more’ when you pay £30 for a bottle of wine but baulk at a tip for the person that’s brought you your food and put up with you staring at her ass for the duration " If service isn’t included the meal should cost about £2.50. It’s all service, a meal doesn’t cost £20 to make. Lots of people work really hard and deserve rewarding , that’s the employers job not the customers. Tipping is generosity not obligation or subsidy forbad employers paying low wages | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. Service isn’t always included, many places still don’t include it and many restaurants can’t afford to pay staff their wage, let alone raises or bonuses as you so enjoy. It’s rather callous to just say ‘they should get paid more’ when you pay £30 for a bottle of wine but baulk at a tip for the person that’s brought you your food and put up with you staring at her ass for the duration " I don't drink alcohol. Grats on that little tantrum lowering yourself to that tiny little place of personal digs by assuming how I treat not only just service staff, but a women too. All because I choose not to pay an optional price increase. | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. Service isn’t always included, many places still don’t include it and many restaurants can’t afford to pay staff their wage, let alone raises or bonuses as you so enjoy. It’s rather callous to just say ‘they should get paid more’ when you pay £30 for a bottle of wine but baulk at a tip for the person that’s brought you your food and put up with you staring at her ass for the duration I don't drink alcohol. Grats on that little tantrum lowering yourself to that tiny little place of personal digs by assuming how I treat not only just service staff, but a women too. All because I choose not to pay an optional price increase. " Just pay your fiver man | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Alternatively their employers could pay them accordingly " Or if they’re not happy doing that job, go and do something else. My business supplies a service, I don’t expect anyone to give me or my staff a tip. Occasionally someone will say keep the change. | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you Lots of jobs are bloody tough. Lots! I've worked both hospitality and retail myself. I don't give those that work in the hospitality or retail industry a hard time. I don't bitch or moan to them about slow service when it's clear they are rushed off their feet. But the service is included as part of the bill - I appreciate the service but I'd quite happily go and collect my own food if the price was reduced. Cut out the middle man. Service isn’t always included, many places still don’t include it and many restaurants can’t afford to pay staff their wage, let alone raises or bonuses as you so enjoy. It’s rather callous to just say ‘they should get paid more’ when you pay £30 for a bottle of wine but baulk at a tip for the person that’s brought you your food and put up with you staring at her ass for the duration I don't drink alcohol. Grats on that little tantrum lowering yourself to that tiny little place of personal digs by assuming how I treat not only just service staff, but a women too. All because I choose not to pay an optional price increase. " You said that you worked in hospitality and retail? I’m not sure that you really did. It wasn’t a tantrum, let’s not demean each other like that. Let’s also not pretend that the ‘inflated prices’ you pay for food go anywhere near the service staff and you’re not giving them any measure of gratitude by paying your bill | |||
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"I work in hospitality and it’s a bloody tough job, Especially at this time of year when everyone expects more of the service staff. The very basics of a waiters/ress’ job require prompt, attentive and correct service, the vast majority will go above and beyond that in a high pressure, high stress atmosphere. Most will be working 60/70 hours a week as that’s what’s required of them during December. If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you" How illuminating. I'm not your boss or responsible for your working conditions. Why not change jobs and stop having such unrealistic expectations of paying customers ? | |||
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" Let’s also not pretend that the ‘inflated prices’ you pay for food go anywhere near the service staff and you’re not giving them any measure of gratitude by paying your bill " If I’m reading this right you are suggesting that the customer is responsible for paying the staff extra because the employer chooses not to distribute the income from the business receipts in a fair way amongst their employees. | |||
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"This time of year….. who are you tipping? If so, what? Bin men got…the people at the car wash got, takeaway delivery person does.." Tipped my Tesco food shop delivery driver a fiver. Hope that’s an ok amount and not tight. | |||
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"This time of year….. who are you tipping? If so, what? Bin men got…the people at the car wash got, takeaway delivery person does.. Tipped my Tesco food shop delivery driver a fiver. Hope that’s an ok amount and not tight. " I think when it comes to tipping it's not the amount but the thought. Most people are grateful and don't feel entitled to anything. | |||
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"This time of year….. who are you tipping? If so, what? Bin men got…the people at the car wash got, takeaway delivery person does.." I used to earn a fair bit in tips at this time of year when I was a postman | |||
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"Nobody. It's included in their wage. I paid for my overpriced meal/service included already as part of the experiance. Do you tip the store clerk that was a pleasant and exceptionally good service? Their "good service" is part of their job role, and plays a part in me (along with others) returning to keep them in a job. If service is bad, I won't return to spend money there. This. I fail to understand why you would tip someone on their ability to carry a plate. The one that deserves a tip in a restaurant is the chef. They put in all the work and thought into your meal. The server merely writes what you want, carries it to the table and then pockets the tip. Rarely is it shared with the chef!!" This is one of the arguments for pooling tips across all members of staff because yes, the kitchen staff get overlooked. Some of the very lowest paid people are in the kitchen, e.g. pot washer. Most chefs get paid a lot less than people think and for very very long hours, in hot and stressful conditions. | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus?" Who gets Christmas bonuses?! We don't. In the past, we could choose a token Christmas gift on the last day (box of chocs, novelty mug etc) but that didn't happen this year either. Absolutely zilch in terms of "extra" Christmas recognition and our branch of the business is THE most successful and profitable across the whole global business! | |||
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" If you really think that they don’t deserve a fiver for that then do the hospitality industry a favour and stay at home. Trust me, we’d rather not have to deal with you " Good to know where one stands! As a general observation, I reckon the hospitality industry must make an absolute bomb from large party groups booking into venues at this time of year. lots of diners will go for items they wouldn't normally afford in the knowledge that the bill will be spread across all participants. The individual shares are invariably rounded up into the usually already generous gratuity. I bet the hospitality industry wouldn't tell office parties to stay at home because they are a hassle to deal with! | |||
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"To all those who dont tip... A quick question so of course your life, your money im not judging you either way on if you do or dont tip. I was curious, do you buy your family, or anyone christmas presents? I mean im not sure why people now a days get rewarded for something they didnt personally do over 2000 years ago.. seems a bit barmy to me. Hey someone was born a long time ago lets buy you a present for it now." But what’s that got to do with tipping, going by that logic why celebrate birthday or anniversary’s as they happened ages ago to | |||
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"I wonder if the people that don't tip expect a xmas bonus? From my Boss, yes. Clients, no." My Christmas bonus from the boss was a bacon roll. 1 piece of bacon. Merry Christmas eh? | |||
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"To all those who dont tip... A quick question so of course your life, your money im not judging you either way on if you do or dont tip. I was curious, do you buy your family, or anyone christmas presents? I mean im not sure why people now a days get rewarded for something they didnt personally do over 2000 years ago.. seems a bit barmy to me. Hey someone was born a long time ago lets buy you a present for it now. But what’s that got to do with tipping, going by that logic why celebrate birthday or anniversary’s as they happened ages ago to" At least birthdays and anniversary are rewarding the people who the day is intended for rather then some random person you never met. I was just thinking that the people who dont tip because it is the bosses responsibility to provide a proper wage, why do they then feel its their responsibility to provide gifts, some give money or giftcards, for people who are not jesus, on Jesus's birthday. Its not teally their responsibility to do so.. | |||
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"To all those who dont tip... A quick question so of course your life, your money im not judging you either way on if you do or dont tip. I was curious, do you buy your family, or anyone christmas presents? I mean im not sure why people now a days get rewarded for something they didnt personally do over 2000 years ago.. seems a bit barmy to me. Hey someone was born a long time ago lets buy you a present for it now. But what’s that got to do with tipping, going by that logic why celebrate birthday or anniversary’s as they happened ages ago to At least birthdays and anniversary are rewarding the people who the day is intended for rather then some random person you never met. I was just thinking that the people who dont tip because it is the bosses responsibility to provide a proper wage, why do they then feel its their responsibility to provide gifts, some give money or giftcards, for people who are not jesus, on Jesus's birthday. Its not teally their responsibility to do so.." Let’s be realistic here, Christmas these days has pretty much fuck all to do with religion. It’s just an excuse to take time of work and give your loved ones a present, maybe as a reflection of all they have done for you over the past year. Personally I only buy presents for 3 people, as a mark of appreciation for their friendship. Incidentally I also buy small gifts that I know will be of use or appreciated, throughout the year. The key point here is, they are loved ones, not strangers doing the job they are already paid to do. | |||
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