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"The British sense of humour and the ability to not take life too seriously. " You mean that the British people have a life people need to take life seriously treading on eggshells especially when you have no freedom of expression | |||
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"I can't be arsed to dig out the George Carling quote again. But no, why would I be proud of something that is something that happened by chance, that I played no part in happening." I looooooove George Carlin. | |||
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"I’m proud to be an American because USA USA USA * stumbles around in a circle, and then falls down holding head*" 'MURICA, YEAH! | |||
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"I’m proud to be an American because USA USA USA * stumbles around in a circle, and then falls down holding head* 'MURICA, YEAH!" *whispers* you mean… FUCK YEAH! | |||
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"I’m proud to be an American because USA USA USA * stumbles around in a circle, and then falls down holding head* 'MURICA, YEAH! *whispers* you mean… FUCK YEAH!" | |||
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"It has to be the queues… and the train strikes the whole reason I moved here! "You’re in luck this year then | |||
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"I’m proud of most of the British in general, the country stands up to be counted. We tend to stick together and rally for the people in need, charity and charitable actions is something we do well. I’m proud I took the oath and served… I know there’s some people on here who probably think the military are dicks and that were dumb and stupid for joining up. But I did and enjoyed it I love the music we produce, out sense of humour. I love our national parks, the coastal walks, the history and the historic places to visit…. I’ve been lucky to have travelled, worked and lived in lots of different countries around the world. All have beauty about them and all have charm and they all Have their own pride. I don’t believe as many that have commented on here have no pride in their nation at all. I think most are sheep following the grumpy ones that constantly voice their opinions with a negative flow. Makes me laugh " I'm not proud to be British because I'm not British. I wasn't being grumpy  | |||
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"Well if so many dont like GB no ones forceing them to stay? "Oh crumbs! That old chestnut !  | |||
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"I’m proud of most of the British in general, the country stands up to be counted. We tend to stick together and rally for the people in need, charity and charitable actions is something we do well. I’m proud I took the oath and served… I know there’s some people on here who probably think the military are dicks and that were dumb and stupid for joining up. But I did and enjoyed it I love the music we produce, out sense of humour. I love our national parks, the coastal walks, the history and the historic places to visit…. I’ve been lucky to have travelled, worked and lived in lots of different countries around the world. All have beauty about them and all have charm and they all Have their own pride. I don’t believe as many that have commented on here have no pride in their nation at all. I think most are sheep following the grumpy ones that constantly voice their opinions with a negative flow. Makes me laugh I'm not proud to be British because I'm not British. I wasn't being grumpy "Haha wasn’t really aimed at you And it’s ok to say you’re Not proud to be British if you’re not British I wouldn’t say I’m proud to me another nationality either | |||
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"I’m proud of most of the British in general, the country stands up to be counted. We tend to stick together and rally for the people in need, charity and charitable actions is something we do well. I’m proud I took the oath and served… I know there’s some people on here who probably think the military are dicks and that were dumb and stupid for joining up. But I did and enjoyed it I love the music we produce, out sense of humour. I love our national parks, the coastal walks, the history and the historic places to visit…. I’ve been lucky to have travelled, worked and lived in lots of different countries around the world. All have beauty about them and all have charm and they all Have their own pride. I don’t believe as many that have commented on here have no pride in their nation at all. I think most are sheep following the grumpy ones that constantly voice their opinions with a negative flow. Makes me laugh I can admire your opinions on why you are proud to be British However , not appreciating other people’s reasons for not being proud shows a lack of empathy and understanding. If I accept you are proud to be British then please accept that I have no pride in a nation state that is governed by people I did not vote for, and who in my opinion, are acting in a way that brings our country down . One caveat, I think our language and the way we use it, slang and all, is the best on the planet " | |||
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"I’m proud of most of the British in general, the country stands up to be counted. We tend to stick together and rally for the people in need, charity and charitable actions is something we do well. I’m proud I took the oath and served… I know there’s some people on here who probably think the military are dicks and that were dumb and stupid for joining up. But I did and enjoyed it I love the music we produce, out sense of humour. I love our national parks, the coastal walks, the history and the historic places to visit…. I’ve been lucky to have travelled, worked and lived in lots of different countries around the world. All have beauty about them and all have charm and they all Have their own pride. I don’t believe as many that have commented on here have no pride in their nation at all. I think most are sheep following the grumpy ones that constantly voice their opinions with a negative flow. Makes me laugh I can admire your opinions on why you are proud to be British However , not appreciating other people’s reasons for not being proud shows a lack of empathy and understanding. If I accept you are proud to be British then please accept that I have no pride in a nation state that is governed by people I did not vote for, and who in my opinion, are acting in a way that brings our country down . One caveat, I think our language and the way we use it, slang and all, is the best on the planet "I agree with you on the government  | |||
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"Our country has some of the most scenic and historic places its country lanes, its pubs its culture, some of its people, I'm British and proud to be, i could never live anywhere else although i love to travel "I feel the same way. If you can’t be proud about where you live, either do something about it or go and live somewhere else. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. " Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. | |||
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"Our country has some of the most scenic and historic places its country lanes, its pubs its culture, some of its people, I'm British and proud to be, i could never live anywhere else although i love to travel
I feel the same way. If you can’t be proud about where you live, either do something about it or go and live somewhere else."Pride in your surroundings is not the same as pride to have a certain nationality. I like my surroundings to be pleasant and lovely but I have that feeling no matter where I am. When I am on holiday, I take care of the establishment and environment in exactly the same way as at my own home. I take my glasses back to the bar. I keep my hotel room tidy. I pick up my towels etc. I have pride in my surroundings. But frankly, having had the accident to be born in the UK vs somewhere else? What's there to be proud of? I didn't choose it. I could equally have been born somewhere else. It's just an accident of circumstance that I had no involvement in. | |||
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"Our country has some of the most scenic and historic places its country lanes, its pubs its culture, some of its people, I'm British and proud to be, i could never live anywhere else although i love to travel
I feel the same way. If you can’t be proud about where you live, either do something about it or go and live somewhere else.
Pride in your surroundings is not the same as pride to have a certain nationality. I like my surroundings to be pleasant and lovely but I have that feeling no matter where I am. When I am on holiday, I take care of the establishment and environment in exactly the same way as at my own home. I take my glasses back to the bar. I keep my hotel room tidy. I pick up my towels etc. I have pride in my surroundings.
But frankly, having had the accident to be born in the UK vs somewhere else? What's there to be proud of? I didn't choose it. I could equally have been born somewhere else. It's just an accident of circumstance that I had no involvement in. "Yes, it's never made much sense to me. (For what it's worth, I'm not proud to be Australian, either. If my parents had changed their plans slightly or one of them had got their shit together, I might well be British/ dual national. Entirely an accident in my case) | |||
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"Our country has some of the most scenic and historic places its country lanes, its pubs its culture, some of its people, I'm British and proud to be, i could never live anywhere else although i love to travel
I feel the same way. If you can’t be proud about where you live, either do something about it or go and live somewhere else.
Pride in your surroundings is not the same as pride to have a certain nationality. I like my surroundings to be pleasant and lovely but I have that feeling no matter where I am. When I am on holiday, I take care of the establishment and environment in exactly the same way as at my own home. I take my glasses back to the bar. I keep my hotel room tidy. I pick up my towels etc. I have pride in my surroundings.
But frankly, having had the accident to be born in the UK vs somewhere else? What's there to be proud of? I didn't choose it. I could equally have been born somewhere else. It's just an accident of circumstance that I had no involvement in.
Yes, it's never made much sense to me. (For what it's worth, I'm not proud to be Australian, either. If my parents had changed their plans slightly or one of them had got their shit together, I might well be British/ dual national. Entirely an accident in my case)"I'm only here because my Great Grandad came here. Apparently, this wasn't his intended final destination, he was going to follow his brother across the Pond, but he met a woman and that was that. An accident of history. That's why I'm in this country. It's just a thing. Nowt special, to me anyway. | |||
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"Our country has some of the most scenic and historic places its country lanes, its pubs its culture, some of its people, I'm British and proud to be, i could never live anywhere else although i love to travel
I feel the same way. If you can’t be proud about where you live, either do something about it or go and live somewhere else.
Pride in your surroundings is not the same as pride to have a certain nationality. I like my surroundings to be pleasant and lovely but I have that feeling no matter where I am. When I am on holiday, I take care of the establishment and environment in exactly the same way as at my own home. I take my glasses back to the bar. I keep my hotel room tidy. I pick up my towels etc. I have pride in my surroundings.
But frankly, having had the accident to be born in the UK vs somewhere else? What's there to be proud of? I didn't choose it. I could equally have been born somewhere else. It's just an accident of circumstance that I had no involvement in.
Yes, it's never made much sense to me. (For what it's worth, I'm not proud to be Australian, either. If my parents had changed their plans slightly or one of them had got their shit together, I might well be British/ dual national. Entirely an accident in my case)
I'm only here because my Great Grandad came here. Apparently, this wasn't his intended final destination, he was going to follow his brother across the Pond, but he met a woman and that was that.
An accident of history. That's why I'm in this country. It's just a thing. Nowt special, to me anyway. "And I was born in Australia because the British settled, rather than the French or the Dutch (or the Portuguese, I guess?), and because of the specific circumstances that led to the end of indentured servitude/ reduction in capital/corporal punishment, and because of the problems caused between less physical punishment and prisons. (Also the Potato Famine, probably) Am I proud of any of that shit? No. Why the fuck would I be? That was hundreds of years ago. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on." I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better?" To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. | |||
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"Well if so many dont like GB no ones forceing them to stay? " | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. " ^ that's the 'cultural cringe'. Manchester Airport fly to Australia.Bye. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. " Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. ^ that's the 'cultural cringe'. Manchester Airport fly to Australia.Bye." I moved to this country because I admired it from afar. I stayed. I'm here legally, and permanently. And as I said above, telling people to leave when they're at least aware enough to know that there are problems is self defeating, just letting a country rot. (And in case you misread what I wrote, what I was calling "fetid shit" was North Korea ) | |||
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"Well if so many dont like GB no ones forceing them to stay? "Not if they want to leave and live in Europe, unfortunately Brexit fucked that up for all UK citizens! | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. " I think a lot of people are incapable of seeing nuance and just think that anything other than rimming Churchill is treason. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. I think a lot of people are incapable of seeing nuance and just think that anything other than rimming Churchill is treason." | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. " “Most alternatives are absolute shit”…….genuinely interested in why you think this, have you lived in or visited the many alternatives available in order to make such sound judgement? | |||
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"Living overseas, residing in three different countries and visiting circa half a dozen regularly on business; I’m a very proud Scouser but have zero intention of returning to the UK to live. Britain has forgotten who/what it is, the country has no identity on the world stage and Brexit only served to make this identity crisis worse. Folk are pissed off to the back teeth of corrupt politicians, unacceptably managed NHS by those who’ve never provided health care, utility company shareholders reaping millions whilst other can’t heat their houses, children going to school hungry and a homeless epidemic that’s simply embarrassing for a first world country. But the problem is this, nobody in any other country really sees these issues, they still think it’s “Great Britain” based on outdated preconceived ideas harking back to “the good old days” that simply aren’t good anymore. I visited London recently with a colleague who’d never been, he simply couldn’t believe the garbage blowing in the wind and the number of homeless folk in doorways; we’d been there less than a day when he asked me “has it always been like this!”…….enough said!" There are people working on it... and ignoring those who tell us to leave if we don't like it here. | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. I think a lot of people are incapable of seeing nuance and just think that anything other than rimming Churchill is treason." | |||
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"Nothing. The only redeeming quality about this country is that it isn't Russia or North Korea...so I guess it could be worse. To me living in Britain is like having 2 broken legs, yeah it sucks but it could be worse you could be dead. Try living the way you do in Africa or the Middle East and see how you get on. I literally said that this country is better than places like that...Why are you disagreeing with me saying that Britain is better? To me it reads like "Britain is great because it's better than North Korea". That's a bit like saying that something is great because it's better than a pile of fetid shit. Well yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm saying this country is good because most alternatives are absolute shit. That doesn't make this country perfect though. Unfortunately by saying that this country isn't perfect, the boomers and Tories get upset. I plan on moving to Finland though so I can be in a country that actually has even more upsides. “Most alternatives are absolute shit”…….genuinely interested in why you think this, have you lived in or visited the many alternatives available in order to make such sound judgement?" Well If I go to Africa I'd probably end up dead. Same thing with Russia. Probably wont die in China but it would definitely suck. Would probably die if I tried to live in North Korea. If I go to anywhere under the rule of Sharia Law then I'd probably also end up dead as well I kinda fuck men. I'd probably suffer in the US but it could be livable. Australia and Canada seem to be the only livable alternatives although America could be fun since I'd just shoot people I disagree with and just spew "castle doctrine" or "he was gay and I got scared". The reason I think this is because when I look at the news for those countries there seems to be alot of hatred against people of my kind. Plus, I don't need to go there to understand it would suck for me in the same way that I don't need to break my arm to understand that breaking my arm would be bad. | |||
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"Ah fuck it "I saw a slogan on a guy's car that said "Proud to be an American." And I thought, well, what the fuck does that mean? Proud to be an American. You see, l've never understood national pride. I've never understood ethnic pride. Because I'm lrish, and all four of my grandparents were born in Ireland, so l'm fully Irish. And when I was a kid, I would go to the St. Patrick's Day parade, and I noticed that they sold a button that said "Proud to be lrish." And I could never understand that because I knew that on Columbus Day, they sold a different button that said "Proud to be Italian." Then came black pride and Puerto Rican pride. And I could never understand ethnic or national pride because, to me pride should be reserved for something you achieve or attain on your own. Not something that happens by accident of birth. Being Irish isn't a skill. It's a fucking genetic accident. You wouldn't say, "I'm proud to be 5'11". I'm proud to have a predisposition for colon cancer. So, why the fuck would you be proud to be lrish or proud to be ltalian or American or anything? Hey, if you're happy with it, that's fine. Do that. Put that on your car. "Happy to be an American." Be happy. Don't be proud. Too much pride as it is. Pride goeth before a fall"" *** This ^
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"The Empire of course! The sun never sleeps on it! I love that shit.
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"Seriously though I think my answer is probably grime music. " I was going to call someone to see if you'd hit your head or something if you were serious on that last one | |||
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This country is fucked.
Massive immigration of people who don't give a shit about this country, values, culture. taking advantage of a shambolic government.
Plus criminal gangs deciding who comes to this country, not the government.
I served in the Army but I was fed bullshit. I'd bugger off to a country that actually looks after its citizen's
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My penny's worth as a Brit born of Irish parents is that I'm not sure I feel pride, as such. But i think Britain is a wonderful & beautiful place & I'm damn glad I live here "I didn't say that there was only one way to express pride, or that everyone who expressed pride was wrong. I said that people who are offended by what another poster said - which had a degree of nuance - may be incapable of nuance. And they are the ones who tend to be of the "if you don't like it, leave" inclination. I have equal disdain for those who wank themselves blind over the Second Amendment or mourn the loss of the White Australia Policy, for what it's worth. | |||
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Before they sent convicts to Australia, they were put on prison ships. Maybe the government think that they're doing the immigrants Australia because... Neighbours or some shit."That’s when good neighbours Become Good Friends | |||
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That country is England, and it's lost the plot.
Give it another 40 years, for a traumatised post-UK, post Londocentric polity to emerge from the ashes, and "England" should start coming to mean something similar to the promise in Will Blake's poetry, updated within "poetic materialism".
So what do I love about England?
Everything that it isn't, but it can be. The seeds have always been there.
Scotland - go be amazing. You've got everything you need (and more!), and smile on us a little as we go through hell before emerging as something, finally, living up to our promise.
Short and simple answer however, in keeping with the brevity intended in the original question - "British" and "Irish" humour. They're something else x. | |||
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"Proud isn't the right word, but every time I hear about another school shooting elsewhere in the world, it makes me very happy that I'm British and that I live where I live. "
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That country is England, and it's lost the plot.
Give it another 40 years, for a traumatised post-UK, post Londocentric polity to emerge from the ashes, and "England" should start coming to mean something similar to the promise in Will Blake's poetry, updated within "poetic materialism".
So what do I love about England?
Everything that it isn't, but it can be. The seeds have always been there.
Scotland - go be amazing. You've got everything you need (and more!), and smile on us a little as we go through hell before emerging as something, finally, living up to our promise.
Short and simple answer however, in keeping with the brevity intended in the original question - "British" and "Irish" humour. They're something else x."So what makes you proud to be British ? | |||
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That country is England, and it's lost the plot.
Give it another 40 years, for a traumatised post-UK, post Londocentric polity to emerge from the ashes, and "England" should start coming to mean something similar to the promise in Will Blake's poetry, updated within "poetic materialism".
So what do I love about England?
Everything that it isn't, but it can be. The seeds have always been there.
Scotland - go be amazing. You've got everything you need (and more!), and smile on us a little as we go through hell before emerging as something, finally, living up to our promise.
Short and simple answer however, in keeping with the brevity intended in the original question - "British" and "Irish" humour. They're something else x.
So what makes you proud to be British ?"Using your definition of "proud" - nothing. And that's good with me. Using a bit of wiggle room across definitions, the humour. And the possibility of changing the culture using internationally recognised amd legally accepted geographical boundaries within which to enact cultural and socio-economic transformation, obvs. All nations are a boundary, and should go. Boundaries create "others". "Others" become vilified...soft targets. But you can use the imperfect concept of boundary to do stuff that's better than before. There's "legal space" within which to do things. Give the world a worthwhile example that can be adopted and adapted elsewhere, over a few hundred years. Currently, we're on the down part of that curve in the legal entity called "UK". The up part will be fascinating. | |||
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"I love my country too much to be a nationalist .
That country is England, and it's lost the plot.
Give it another 40 years, for a traumatised post-UK, post Londocentric polity to emerge from the ashes, and "England" should start coming to mean something similar to the promise in Will Blake's poetry, updated within "poetic materialism".
So what do I love about England?
Everything that it isn't, but it can be. The seeds have always been there.
Scotland - go be amazing. You've got everything you need (and more!), and smile on us a little as we go through hell before emerging as something, finally, living up to our promise.
Short and simple answer however, in keeping with the brevity intended in the original question - "British" and "Irish" humour. They're something else x.
So what makes you proud to be British ?
Using your definition of "proud" - nothing. And that's good with me.
Using a bit of wiggle room across definitions, the humour.
And the possibility of changing the culture using internationally recognised amd legally accepted geographical boundaries within which to enact cultural and socio-economic transformation, obvs.
All nations are a boundary, and should go. Boundaries create "others". "Others" become vilified...soft targets.
But you can use the imperfect concept of boundary to do stuff that's better than before.
There's "legal space" within which to do things.
Give the world a worthwhile example that can be adopted and adapted elsewhere, over a few hundred years.
Currently, we're on the down part of that curve in the legal entity called "UK".
The up part will be fascinating. "So ... 'The humour' you say. Is there an identifiable 'British Humour' ? | |||
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"I love my country too much to be a nationalist .
That country is England, and it's lost the plot.
Give it another 40 years, for a traumatised post-UK, post Londocentric polity to emerge from the ashes, and "England" should start coming to mean something similar to the promise in Will Blake's poetry, updated within "poetic materialism".
So what do I love about England?
Everything that it isn't, but it can be. The seeds have always been there.
Scotland - go be amazing. You've got everything you need (and more!), and smile on us a little as we go through hell before emerging as something, finally, living up to our promise.
Short and simple answer however, in keeping with the brevity intended in the original question - "British" and "Irish" humour. They're something else x.
So what makes you proud to be British ?
Using your definition of "proud" - nothing. And that's good with me.
Using a bit of wiggle room across definitions, the humour.
And the possibility of changing the culture using internationally recognised amd legally accepted geographical boundaries within which to enact cultural and socio-economic transformation, obvs.
All nations are a boundary, and should go. Boundaries create "others". "Others" become vilified...soft targets.
But you can use the imperfect concept of boundary to do stuff that's better than before.
There's "legal space" within which to do things.
Give the world a worthwhile example that can be adopted and adapted elsewhere, over a few hundred years.
Currently, we're on the down part of that curve in the legal entity called "UK".
The up part will be fascinating.
So ... 'The humour' you say. Is there an identifiable 'British Humour' ?"I think it's shared British and Irish, and there are definitely variations across the current UK and Ireland too. A large part is the flexibility of the language (other languages often have less words but stronger grammar), some cultural differences come into it (French humour is heavily ironic, so the jokes are more cerebral, for example). So yes - some identifiable traits. Pulling people down several pegs, but a strong connection from mind leading to belly-laugh. | |||
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"Having lived all over the world and seen how the vast majority of the rest of the world is _actually_ run and how most people _really_ live their lives then I am proud when I get back to these islands. Could I come up with a list as long as your arm on things that are wrong here? Easily. But the list for pretty much anywhere else in the world would be ten times longer. " A sensible and balanced answer.. I'd tend to agree | |||
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"This thread reminds me of the song proud to be black by Robbie from AFTV. I remember nearly all the words even though it’s been over a decade since I first heard it. Now it’s stuck in my head "Why? | |||
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"Irish heritage, born in England, live in Scotland and worked in many other countries with many other nationalities and faiths. Proud to be British for all the good we have invented, created, our democracy, influence for all the right things. Sure we have got things wrong. Sure politics are corrupt but I'm proud to be British and I also know it's not trendy. Particularly on Fab." I like that answer. I used to be extremely proud of some of our heritage and character, achievements, services, role in world affairs, fairness, tradition, friendliness, engineering, invention, work ethic, creativity, steadfastness... I'll be honest I'm struggling with any of those now. We have let our country be taken from us and now I'm not sure we have a shared set of values let alone a desire to embrace and advocate them. I suppose it's inevitable when the only evidence one sees is greed and desire for more stuff. | |||
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"Proud isn't the right word, but every time I hear about another school shooting elsewhere in the world, it makes me very happy that I'm British and that I live where I live.
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Or the fact they have active shooter drills to teach primary school children what to do when it happens to them.
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Or the fact they have active shooter drills to teach primary school children what to do when it happens to them.
There are drills for this in certain types of school in the UK. Jewish faith schools have drills for various potential threats, for example.
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"I’m proud to be an American because USA USA USA * stumbles around in a circle, and then falls down holding head* 'MURICA, YEAH! *whispers* you mean… FUCK YEAH!" What makes you proud to be British? | |||
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Or the fact they have active shooter drills to teach primary school children what to do when it happens to them.
There are drills for this in certain types of school in the UK. Jewish faith schools have drills for various potential threats, for example.
And they all have security guards. As do synagogues.
There are. But so far thankfully no shoot em up events just yet. Plenty stabbings mind. "Not shooting, no. But plenty of unpleasantness. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/oct/11/englands-jewish-schools-take-extra-security-precautions | |||
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"Our country did a lot of good for the world throughout history and we really shaped the world of today " Massacres Plundering Famines Genocides Military occupations | |||
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"What do people mean by proud to be British? Any one who comes here and stays for 5yrs can claim a British passport. How does that make them British? I was born an bred in England, not Scotland,Wales,Ireland or any place in the world. So why on forms today do they have black British, Asia British,an so on. But not white British of better still English. Before anyone calls me Racist my bests friend are from the Windrush age and I god father to many of their Kids an grand kids." Ask your Windrush friends about dual heritage. I doubt it's something relevant to you as a "born and bred" white Englishman | |||
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"What do people mean by proud to be British? Any one who comes here and stays for 5yrs can claim a British passport. How does that make them British? I was born an bred in England, not Scotland,Wales,Ireland or any place in the world. So why on forms today do they have black British, Asia British,an so on. But not white British of better still English. Before anyone calls me Racist my bests friend are from the Windrush age and I god father to many of their Kids an grand kids." Most forms I see do have 'White British' on. Then Irish, English, Welsh, Scottish, ginger etc. | |||
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"What do people mean by proud to be British? Any one who comes here and stays for 5yrs can claim a British passport. How does that make them British? I was born an bred in England, not Scotland,Wales,Ireland or any place in the world. So why on forms today do they have black British, Asia British,an so on. But not white British of better still English. Before anyone calls me Racist my bests friend are from the Windrush age and I god father to many of their Kids an grand kids." Umm I've lived here for fourteen years and I can assure you that "five years to British passport" is not true. (There may be some narrow paths to it, but they're the exception, not the rule) | |||
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"What do people mean by proud to be British? Any one who comes here and stays for 5yrs can claim a British passport. How does that make them British? I was born an bred in England, not Scotland,Wales,Ireland or any place in the world. So why on forms today do they have black British, Asia British,an so on. But not white British of better still English. Before anyone calls me Racist my bests friend are from the Windrush age and I god father to many of their Kids an grand kids." What utter crap!! Never in my life have I seen a form that doesn't have White British on. We have friends who have applied for their British passport after living and working here (as Doctors, nurses, engineers, lawyers etc) for decades, it does not take 5 years, the best it can be done in is 10 years, in very rare circumstances. One thing that does not make you a proud brit is simply been born here, that's just luck. | |||
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"What do people mean by proud to be British? Any one who comes here and stays for 5yrs can claim a British passport. How does that make them British? I was born an bred in England, not Scotland,Wales,Ireland or any place in the world. So why on forms today do they have black British, Asia British,an so on. But not white British of better still English. Before anyone calls me Racist my bests friend are from the Windrush age and I god father to many of their Kids an grand kids. What utter crap!! Never in my life have I seen a form that doesn't have White British on. We have friends who have applied for their British passport after living and working here (as Doctors, nurses, engineers, lawyers etc) for decades, it does not take 5 years, the best it can be done in is 10 years, in very rare circumstances. One thing that does not make you a proud brit is simply been born here, that's just luck. " I spent ages wondering if I was white British or white other when looking at all those damn forms. I decided I was white other. Yeah, most of my heritage is English, but only one of those lines was as recent as the 20th century. | |||
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