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By *hagTonight OP   Man
49 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all?

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I thought squatters rights had been abolished in recent years?

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

But I personally think it should be a case by case basis

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By *entlemanrogueMan
49 weeks ago

Motherwell


"I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all? "

Maybe if a property is simply left for yaars to basically rot.

Someone may as well find warmth and shelter inside.

However if the owner returns and tells them to leave, they should immediately.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I’m not gonna pretend I understand all the squatters rights laws

But I feel if someone comes into your property without an agreement or contract, no matter how long they are there, you should be able to have them removed on the same day, just like trespassing

It’s a bit weird if we don’t do that. Would we allow that with any other property? “You haven’t used this in a while so this other person is taking it”

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By *ellhungvweMan
49 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"But I personally think it should be a case by case basis "

Let me guess: you are “open minded” and “support” it but if it were your house then you think they should be kicked out straight away?

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By *el65Man
49 weeks ago

paisley

I agree you should not be allowed into another person’s property without permission

Recently I read about a guy who took over someone else’s house it was empty he moved in and after 12 years was allowed to take legal ownership? I think the owner may have died not sure but surely you just can’t take it? He was granted ownership by using a law that went back to Roman times

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By *929Man
49 weeks ago

newcastle

It’s ridiculous that they can’t be removed the same day the fact that squatters rights ever existed is the height of ridiculousness.

They have the odd benefit though, One customer I did work on his rental property and it had a squatter that had moved on he was obviously a plumber/bathroom fitter by the materials he left around and during his time there he had fitted a really nice bathroom suite with tiles ect

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"But I personally think it should be a case by case basis

Let me guess: you are “open minded” and “support” it but if it were your house then you think they should be kicked out straight away?"

lol no. I don’t support anything illegal and to the best of my knowledge squatting is illegal. What I mean by that is there’s a difference between Margaret popping to Asda and leaving her front door unlocked and coming home to find a family of 4 moved in, to an empty outbuilding being used by some homeless people

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I think it's wrong for squatters to break into peoples houses and start squatting. The law should remove them as quick as possible.

I used to watch a t.v. program on this. The stress and financial burden on the home owners to have them evicted is unbelievable. And left alot of them in ruins. And these people aren't rich just hard working people who buy a property for their pension.

I believe people genuinely homeless should be helped and housed.

But alot of these squatters are professional pains in the backside. Alot of them are from well of families who have big houses in the suburbs. Rather than go on holiday for a gap year they break into peoples property and try to live like hippies..

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

It doesn't matter if they only have that one house or millionaires with multiple. Or if it's used or not.

The fact is it's theirs. Not yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

There's good squatting and bad squatting.

Unfortunately the changes in the law stopped most of the good squatting but left the doors open for the more business/crime like adverse possession.

I have no issue with good squatting, in fact I would encourage it. Who wants to see a homeless person sleeping rough outside an empty Bank on their high street? Not me for sure, open the Bank doors and let them into the comfort and security of a building.

Bad squatting is criminal and the consequences aren't proportional to the harm and damage it causes.

Good squatting would be a group of people moving into (for example) an old and derelict factory that was not secure. They would take possession, secure the building and make improvements to it so it was habitable. They would NOT break into a property.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
49 weeks ago

1127 walnut avenue


"There's good squatting and bad squatting.

Unfortunately the changes in the law stopped most of the good squatting but left the doors open for the more business/crime like adverse possession.

I have no issue with good squatting, in fact I would encourage it. Who wants to see a homeless person sleeping rough outside an empty Bank on their high street? Not me for sure, open the Bank doors and let them into the comfort and security of a building.

Bad squatting is criminal and the consequences aren't proportional to the harm and damage it causes.

Good squatting would be a group of people moving into (for example) an old and derelict factory that was not secure. They would take possession, secure the building and make improvements to it so it was habitable. They would NOT break into a property.

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Yes ..In the 80s.. some great gig venue's were created like this there was an old abandoned fire station on the old Kent road that was a music venue for years..

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"It doesn't matter if they only have that one house or millionaires with multiple. Or if it's used or not.

The fact is it's theirs. Not yours.

"

100% this!

It happened to my cousin. Took 8 months to get them out. In the meantime she had to rent as well as pay a mortgage and nearly went bankrupt. I don’t think I’ve ever been so angry and totally gobsmacked in my life. How the hell can this even be allowed to happen?! It’s her house!

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Squatters shouldn't have any rights, end of.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"Squatters shouldn't have any rights, end of."

Damn right

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Some have claimed squatters rights when being evicted from a rental property and it costs thousands to get them out payable by the property owner or if it's council or housing association will almost definitely come from public money, money wasted that could be used to help people.

I can see this occuring more and more with the housing crisis rental properties becoming harder and harder to get.

I think the government should introduce a kind of compulsory purchase order situation for houses that have been empty for a period of time maybe three years?

Unfortunately in places like London lot's of properties sitting empty are owned by rich Arab's and are valued in the millions so very little chance for a local authority being able to afford to purchase them.

I used to work for a locksmith company in a lot of our work was around Kensington and Chelsea attending alarm issues and break ins it was amazing how many huge and expensive houses are just sitting there unused.

Turning and using a commercial property for residential is a very different thing tho fire hazards emergency access, hazardous materials for example being a problem.

It's a shame that people are forced to squat but I'm sure that a percentage are freeloaders who want to life outside the system, however I'd imagine that's a small percentage most I would assume are desperate and not happy with having to squat.

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By *illy IdolMan
49 weeks ago

Midlands

Seen some terrible programmes on this sort of stuff. Would put you off ever being a landlord.

One thing I know for sure is I wouldn't be going down the legal route to remove them.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

It does seem a bit odd that people will get bent out of shape about housing illegal immigrants on a purpose built barge all expenses paid in"relative comfort" the alternative being a tent or worse, but will happily see homeless people evicted from squatting in a disused property and thrown back to living on the streets.

Strange times we live in moral high ground in one hand callous capitalism in the other

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"But I personally think it should be a case by case basis "

I tend to agree with this although some people are professional squatters known to authorities.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"But I personally think it should be a case by case basis

I tend to agree with this although some people are professional squatters known to authorities."

Yes

Stealing someone’s house is a far cry from squatting in my opinion.

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By *WINGStars23Couple
49 weeks ago

Northwest

I didnt know squatting was still a thing?

I remember people squatting when I was a kid, but not heard anything about it for a very long time.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
49 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"I thought squatters rights had been abolished in recent years?"
I thought it have been that as well.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
49 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"I’m not gonna pretend I understand all the squatters rights laws

But I feel if someone comes into your property without an agreement or contract, no matter how long they are there, you should be able to have them removed on the same day, just like trespassing

It’s a bit weird if we don’t do that. Would we allow that with any other property? “You haven’t used this in a while so this other person is taking it” "
Same here. I dont know all their rights, but yes one can wonder why they cant be remove the same day either as what they do is illegal and yes, it is the same as trespassing too.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I thought squatters rights had been abolished in recent years?I thought it have been that as well."

Squatters rights are ever evolving and to an extent still exist but are better known as adverse possession.

You cannot lawfully squat a residential building now.

If you look them up on the Gov website it reads like an instruction book for stealing land and property.

But compared to 20 years ago there are no Squatters rights

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"I’m not gonna pretend I understand all the squatters rights laws

But I feel if someone comes into your property without an agreement or contract, no matter how long they are there, you should be able to have them removed on the same day, just like trespassing

It’s a bit weird if we don’t do that. Would we allow that with any other property? “You haven’t used this in a while so this other person is taking it” Same here. I dont know all their rights, but yes one can wonder why they cant be remove the same day either as what they do is illegal and yes, it is the same as trespassing too. "

If children are present or anyone who is vulnerable or claiming to be, be it genuine or false it's not as easy as just evicting someone, why do you think it takes so long for authorities to get rid of travellers who set up on land illegally?

That's is squatting just because it's a piece of land rather than a property law's are in place to protect the culprits not the victims.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"It doesn't matter if they only have that one house or millionaires with multiple. Or if it's used or not.

The fact is it's theirs. Not yours.

100% this!

It happened to my cousin. Took 8 months to get them out. In the meantime she had to rent as well as pay a mortgage and nearly went bankrupt. I don’t think I’ve ever been so angry and totally gobsmacked in my life. How the hell can this even be allowed to happen?! It’s her house!"

This is what I call bad squatting and is just plain wrong. I don't even think it is squatting it is just theft.

How they closed up a lot of the good bits but not this is beyond me

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By *ris GrayMan
49 weeks ago

Dorchester

So the concensus is ' death to squatters'

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


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Yes ..In the 80s.. some great gig venue's were created like this there was an old abandoned fire station on the old Kent road that was a music venue for years.. "

The 90s too, some of the better parties I went to were at Squats. EQ arena Stratford and 491 Gallery Leytonstone being the favourites. Both of those were legit too They both ended up doing deals with the owners and existing over for 10 years each.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"So the concensus is ' death to squatters' "

But harsh but maybe trial by combat assuming that they are professional squatters rather than desperate people who have nowhere else to go through no fault of their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Haha. I read it as. SQUIRTERS RIGHTS?

Fab has corrupted my mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Apparently it is very difficult to end a tenancy in Wales - an elderly relative hasn't had any rent paid for months. They are going through a solicitor but seems there is zero protection for the house owner. It does make me wonder why more people don't just stop paying rent though

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"It doesn't matter if they only have that one house or millionaires with multiple. Or if it's used or not.

The fact is it's theirs. Not yours.

100% this!

It happened to my cousin. Took 8 months to get them out. In the meantime she had to rent as well as pay a mortgage and nearly went bankrupt. I don’t think I’ve ever been so angry and totally gobsmacked in my life. How the hell can this even be allowed to happen?! It’s her house!

This is what I call bad squatting and is just plain wrong. I don't even think it is squatting it is just theft.

How they closed up a lot of the good bits but not this is beyond me"

It was just so so awful. And totally unbelievable that it could be allowed to happen! It nearly broke her

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"Apparently it is very difficult to end a tenancy in Wales - an elderly relative hasn't had any rent paid for months. They are going through a solicitor but seems there is zero protection for the house owner. It does make me wonder why more people don't just stop paying rent though "

Not just Wales, the whole UK.

Its something I would insure against if I were a Landlord as there is no legislated protection I am aware of.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Apparently it is very difficult to end a tenancy in Wales - an elderly relative hasn't had any rent paid for months. They are going through a solicitor but seems there is zero protection for the house owner. It does make me wonder why more people don't just stop paying rent though "

When I used to change the locks and gain entry for evictions some of the people being evicted had rent arrears well in excess of ten thousand pounds in fact that's a low figure, most would have had three or four court cases.

Most usually just move onto the next authority to be housed or if it's a housing association doing the eviction the local authority is obligated to house them if children or vunerables are involved.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


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It was just so so awful. And totally unbelievable that it could be allowed to happen! It nearly broke her "

I'm not surprised and I think that is really awful too.

As much as I'm pro Squatting for homeless people to be safe and warm what happened to your Cousin is vile and I am very against.

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By *aitonelMan
49 weeks ago

Liverpool

They should be forced to squat for hours!

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"I thought squatters rights had been abolished in recent years?"

They have in residential as far as I know. What country was this in?

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"Apparently it is very difficult to end a tenancy in Wales - an elderly relative hasn't had any rent paid for months. They are going through a solicitor but seems there is zero protection for the house owner. It does make me wonder why more people don't just stop paying rent though

When I used to change the locks and gain entry for evictions some of the people being evicted had rent arrears well in excess of ten thousand pounds in fact that's a low figure, most would have had three or four court cases.

Most usually just move onto the next authority to be housed or if it's a housing association doing the eviction the local authority is obligated to house them if children or vunerables are involved.

"

Can’t do that in a private tenancy.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street. "

Eh? So people can’t have things they’ve earned the money for?

Do I not buy my kids any Christmas presents because some people can’t afford to?

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"Apparently it is very difficult to end a tenancy in Wales - an elderly relative hasn't had any rent paid for months. They are going through a solicitor but seems there is zero protection for the house owner. It does make me wonder why more people don't just stop paying rent though

Not just Wales, the whole UK.

Its something I would insure against if I were a Landlord as there is no legislated protection I am aware of.

"

Sorry about your relative’s issue. There is actually legal protection for the landlord. Might be worth a call to Citizens Advice.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

Eh? So people can’t have things they’ve earned the money for?

Do I not buy my kids any Christmas presents because some people can’t afford to?"

A bit of a leap from a fairer housing market to not being able to buy your kids Christmas presents

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"I agree you should not be allowed into another person’s property without permission

Recently I read about a guy who took over someone else’s house it was empty he moved in and after 12 years was allowed to take legal ownership? I think the owner may have died not sure but surely you just can’t take it? He was granted ownership by using a law that went back to Roman times

"

When was this and where?

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street. "

!!!!!!

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"There's good squatting and bad squatting.

Unfortunately the changes in the law stopped most of the good squatting but left the doors open for the more business/crime like adverse possession.

I have no issue with good squatting, in fact I would encourage it. Who wants to see a homeless person sleeping rough outside an empty Bank on their high street? Not me for sure, open the Bank doors and let them into the comfort and security of a building.

Bad squatting is criminal and the consequences aren't proportional to the harm and damage it causes.

Good squatting would be a group of people moving into (for example) an old and derelict factory that was not secure. They would take possession, secure the building and make improvements to it so it was habitable. They would NOT break into a property.

Yes ..In the 80s.. some great gig venue's were created like this there was an old abandoned fire station on the old Kent road that was a music venue for years.. "

And social centres… there are excellent ones all over the country and the rest of the world that were created this way,

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

Eh? So people can’t have things they’ve earned the money for?

Do I not buy my kids any Christmas presents because some people can’t afford to?

A bit of a leap from a fairer housing market to not being able to buy your kids Christmas presents "

Ok. I can agree to disagree. Had this argument a few times on here. It’s Christmas! No debates or arguments for me x

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"So the concensus is ' death to squatters' "

*Is mollified into never doing another squat. Ass immediately begins to sag and droop*

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"

Yes ..In the 80s.. some great gig venue's were created like this there was an old abandoned fire station on the old Kent road that was a music venue for years..

The 90s too, some of the better parties I went to were at Squats. EQ arena Stratford and 491 Gallery Leytonstone being the favourites. Both of those were legit too They both ended up doing deals with the owners and existing over for 10 years each."

This is the good stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I don’t like the idea of people being forced to leave their homes. And I don’t know enough about this subject to comment with an opinion for or against the rights of this group. But I do agree with Tina that I feel extremely uneasy about people owning multiple homes whilst we have people in such precarious living situations. Housing should not be so inaccessible for people in our country.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
49 weeks ago

Somewhere else


"So the concensus is ' death to squatters'

But harsh but maybe trial by combat assuming that they are professional squatters rather than desperate people who have nowhere else to go through no fault of their own."

Trial by combat!

… how about a firing squad?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

Eh? So people can’t have things they’ve earned the money for?

Do I not buy my kids any Christmas presents because some people can’t afford to?

A bit of a leap from a fairer housing market to not being able to buy your kids Christmas presents

Ok. I can agree to disagree. Had this argument a few times on here. It’s Christmas! No debates or arguments for me x"

Have a booby hug and we'll plan how to heist the world supply of After 8s

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By *ora the explorerWoman
49 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

Eh? So people can’t have things they’ve earned the money for?

Do I not buy my kids any Christmas presents because some people can’t afford to?

A bit of a leap from a fairer housing market to not being able to buy your kids Christmas presents

Ok. I can agree to disagree. Had this argument a few times on here. It’s Christmas! No debates or arguments for me x

Have a booby hug and we'll plan how to heist the world supply of After 8s "

I imagine a booby hug from you would be pretty awesome! Haha

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
49 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"It’s ridiculous that they can’t be removed the same day the fact that squatters rights ever existed is the height of ridiculousness.

They have the odd benefit though, One customer I did work on his rental property and it had a squatter that had moved on he was obviously a plumber/bathroom fitter by the materials he left around and during his time there he had fitted a really nice bathroom suite with tiles ect "
Yes, it is ridiculous that they cant be removed the same day, that was lucky that he was a plumber and left a nice bathroom suite after him too

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street. "

But why should someone have that home taken away from them that they've worked for?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
49 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

But why should someone have that home taken away from them that they've worked for? "

I don't think it's normal working people who have home's sitting empty it's usually super wealthy billionaires and crook's having house's as part of a portfolio or a tax write off.

However in some countries for example Malta it's common for people to invest in a property rather than putting money into a bank,this is why I. Some places you see many houses half built or sitting empty.

Incidentally I was reading an article about a development in Malaysia a whole 200billion dollar project tower block's and a whole city virtually empty.

That could solve many problems with immigration and homelessness ( assuming people don't mind relocating )

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I don’t like the idea of people being forced to leave their homes. And I don’t know enough about this subject to comment with an opinion for or against the rights of this group. But I do agree with Tina that I feel extremely uneasy about people owning multiple homes whilst we have people in such precarious living situations. Housing should not be so inaccessible for people in our country. "

The way you fix that is by supporting mass house building and supporting a tax placed on empty properties

You don’t support crime, because that’s all squatting is. It’s a type of trespassing and eventually theft

Despite what a lot of people think, housing in this country isn’t a problem because of a few landlords with empty properties

It’s due to the country not hitting its house building goals for 20 years

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Horsham

Look at the builder claimed squatters rights in a house he took over, done it up when he got possession of it and sold it for a tidy profit.

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By *odgers and PartingCouple
49 weeks ago

edinburgh


"I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all? "

Need to know more about the circumstance. Are they homeless by choice or default? Would I have sympathy with someone just freeloading? Absolutely not. If they’re homeless then that’s different. Amazingly only 3 shots years ago we rid the UK of rough sleeping pretty much overnight; it can be done. R

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By *oxesMan
49 weeks ago

Southend, Essex


"There's good squatting and bad squatting.

Unfortunately the changes in the law stopped most of the good squatting but left the doors open for the more business/crime like adverse possession.

I have no issue with good squatting, in fact I would encourage it. Who wants to see a homeless person sleeping rough outside an empty Bank on their high street? Not me for sure, open the Bank doors and let them into the comfort and security of a building.

Bad squatting is criminal and the consequences aren't proportional to the harm and damage it causes.

Good squatting would be a group of people moving into (for example) an old and derelict factory that was not secure. They would take possession, secure the building and make improvements to it so it was habitable. They would NOT break into a property.

Yes ..In the 80s.. some great gig venue's were created like this there was an old abandoned fire station on the old Kent road that was a music venue for years.. "

That's how //:BLANK and Tressor started in Berlin

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By *addad99Man
49 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street. "
why if you've worked hard why not

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
49 weeks ago

London or Bedford


"I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all? "

Last year a Russian Oligarch called Oleg Deripaska had squatters in her Belgravia mansion.

The Police came round & removed them immediately.

That pissed me off

The rest of us plebs would have to go through “legal channels” because it’s not a criminal offence.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
49 weeks ago

Central

I don't see the law to be wrongly on the side of squatters.

We certainly should be aiming to get the high numbers of unoccupied homes reduced, as well as the tragedy of the high volumes of homeless people. Not by squatting, I should add

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By *el65Man
49 weeks ago

paisley


"I agree you should not be allowed into another person’s property without permission

Recently I read about a guy who took over someone else’s house it was empty he moved in and after 12 years was allowed to take legal ownership? I think the owner may have died not sure but surely you just can’t take it? He was granted ownership by using a law that went back to Roman times

When was this and where?"

It was in ilford , recently he sold it for over £500,000

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By *el65Man
49 weeks ago

paisley


"Look at the builder claimed squatters rights in a house he took over, done it up when he got possession of it and sold it for a tidy profit."

Yea that’s the one I was taking about earlier

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By *alandNitaCouple
49 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

There's no such thing as Squatters Rights and hasn't been for a long time.

I'm a bit rusty on the legislation these days...but

A landlord who has followed all the correct procedures should be able to evict quite easily under Section 8 of the Housing Act where there's significant rent arrears... this section also applies to squatters and lots of other situations but may not be so easy.

The problem can be landlords not keeping good records and not following proper procedures, which then puts a spanner in the works of a potential eviction.

Nita

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
49 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"Seen some terrible programmes on this sort of stuff. Would put you off ever being a landlord.

One thing I know for sure is I wouldn't be going down the legal route to remove them."
Yes, it must be hard to be a landlord as you never know that it could happen to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street.

But why should someone have that home taken away from them that they've worked for? "

I don't think that's really a sound idea.

A building that is a second home is in use and you cannot squat a building already in use without committing crimes. Not to mention it is quite immoral.

However we have a lot of empty disused buildings.

These should be opened up to those in need.

Especially if they have been de rated and work is not ongoing to the property.

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"There's no such thing as Squatters Rights and hasn't been for a long time.

"

Adverse possession is still Squatters rights.

https://www.gov.uk/squatting-law/squatters-rights-to-property

The good bits that helped are all gone.

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By *addad99Man
49 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay


"Seen some terrible programmes on this sort of stuff. Would put you off ever being a landlord.

One thing I know for sure is I wouldn't be going down the legal route to remove them.Yes, it must be hard to be a landlord as you never know that it could happen to you."
one reason I stopped the law and government don't help so took my money out made two families homeless hated it but could have lost thousands

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By *929Man
49 weeks ago

newcastle

If they don’t leave voluntarily when asked Should be allowed to release a hungry and angry lion into the house and lock the door

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
49 weeks ago

ashford


"I'm more concerned about a society that thinks it fair that some people have second homes, whilst others are on the street. "

Wholeheartedly agree with this! Don't sit right with me either! X

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By *hawn ScottMan
49 weeks ago

london Brixton

Squatting in a residential property became a crime in 2012 I think??? Not a civil issue so can call the police to have them removed.

Which is why squatters tend to squat in empty commercial property which is still a civil issue and they must go through the eviction process

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By *hawn ScottMan
49 weeks ago

london Brixton

I was an accidental landlord when I moved to London and couldn't sell my house due to the 2008 crash.

Was only supposed to be temporary but went on for 8 years. I was wasn't making much profit just enough to keep the mortgage being paid. I had mostly good tennents but one who trashed the place and disappeared.

Every time the letting agent left me a voicemail I dreaded calling them back. It was never good news! When the last tennents moved put in 2016 I managed to sell it but took less than what it was worth

Was just glad to get rid of it and a weight off my shoulders. Would never be a landlord again

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By *hawn ScottMan
49 weeks ago

london Brixton


"I agree you should not be allowed into another person’s property without permission

Recently I read about a guy who took over someone else’s house it was empty he moved in and after 12 years was allowed to take legal ownership? I think the owner may have died not sure but surely you just can’t take it? He was granted ownership by using a law that went back to Roman times

When was this and where?

It was in ilford , recently he sold it for over £500,000 "

There's a story (might be true might be an urban legend) about a 4 bedroom terrace in vauxhall London that a squatter moved into. The old man died and no family could be traced. After 4 years he began registering and paying the utility bills. After 10 years nobody had still came forward so he applied to the council for ownership and it was granted.

This is from 90s??? Might be true

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago


"I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all? "

Oooh squats Shag

I believe after a period of time squatters have squatters rights.

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By *hawn ScottMan
49 weeks ago

london Brixton


"I agree you should not be allowed into another person’s property without permission

Recently I read about a guy who took over someone else’s house it was empty he moved in and after 12 years was allowed to take legal ownership? I think the owner may have died not sure but surely you just can’t take it? He was granted ownership by using a law that went back to Roman times

When was this and where?

It was in ilford , recently he sold it for over £500,000

There's a story (might be true might be an urban legend) about a 4 bedroom terrace in vauxhall London that a squatter moved into. The old man died and no family could be traced. After 4 years he began registering and paying the utility bills. After 10 years nobody had still came forward so he applied to the council for ownership and it was granted.

This is from 90s??? Might be true"

Actually this story is true! It was brixton 1999

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By *ormalfornorfolkMan
49 weeks ago

Norwich

All property is theft. Except mine.

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By *hawn ScottMan
49 weeks ago

london Brixton

However what could happen is if you rent a room in your house as a live in landlord and they have a legit tennacy agreemen.

If they decide not to pay rent then it is a civil matter and not trespassing.

You have to go down the legal route to evict them. They can't stop you entering your own house but can make your life hell.

If they cause trouble the police can hold the landlord responsible and fine him!

I've been in a shared house with a complete pyscho path. police got in involved, other housemates moved out.

The landlord who was a decent guy handed him a few grand to move out in the end

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By *mf123Man
49 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

Only if the turtle head is hanging out do i agree with the squatters much cleaner

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
48 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.


"I watched a program about it and there they occupied a persons holiday home illegally, the owner took action and it was a long process but he eventually got it back.

I have no sympathy for squatters and is it just me or does it seem that the law is more on their side, surely if they wanted they could evict them the same day?

What is your view about it, should squatters have any rights at all?

Oooh squats Shag

I believe after a period of time squatters have squatters rights. "
Hi becs, yes, it is strange how they can get rights after a period of time isnt it?

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
48 weeks ago

chichester

We had squatters once. We removed them ourselves with some gentle persuasion.

In 2 days they trashed 2 rooms

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