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"Thats not the bit that bothers me I respect everyone's choices, and leave well enough alone if they specifically state that. However after 15 years of experiencing this site on and off because I'm not an idiot and won't be on here if I'm with someone. I have met 1 woman. That could be through a majority of things. On the other side of things I personally dnt think I'm that bad of a person. Guess I'm missing something as a person for the life of me I may never work it out. If someone else can put 2 and 2 together and work it out bring it on. I can only be myself at end of the day and when that's not good enough what do I actually have left. " Don't let it get you down. I wouldn't fuck Jason Momoa but he's ok. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.  "Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong "Stop messaging. It's a fucking awful system. Go to socials instead.  | |||
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"It’s novel, I’ll give you that. You’re basically saying you can’t get a meet because women only meet straight guys? " Not saying that I'm trying to find out what I'm doing wrong because I can only be myself as a person, I would like to teat my theory but if so many people reject u then ita clearly ao.etjing I'm getting wrong than the other way around. If just rather know what it is. Simple guy try not to lie Tey just be decent perhaps too boring this the only things I can think of if not for the test I want to try. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong "You're a good looking bloke. Maybe you're just not their type. Or they are already chatting to 300 other men and can't fit another one in. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
You're a good looking bloke. Maybe you're just not their type. Or they are already chatting to 300 other men and can't fit another one in. "Yeah can understand that have a female friend on here used to see how her inbox ended up with guys so do understand that side of things. | |||
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"Like most women I know on here, I have no problem with bi men, but liars now that is a different story. If you are choosing to lie and deceive people on here, I don't understand how that makes you a good guy, more the exact opposite." Not lied at all I'm 100% honest on who I am expecially on here the 1 site u shud be able to be honest, however it is a theory I've had for a few years now just to put the hypothesis to the test. I prise myself on being honest and who I am. I wear my heart on my sleeve and everything I do is always 100% genuine | |||
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"I'd just like to say I love bi men! Obviously not all bi men as not all are my type. That's probably all it comes down to OP, not being their type. " I must have a very small category of the type I fit into then lol ?? | |||
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"I'd just like to say I love bi men! Obviously not all bi men as not all are my type. That's probably all it comes down to OP, not being their type. I must have a very small category of the type I fit into then lol ?? " Probably. Of all the men on fab I'm still in single digits to those that fit my type. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
"I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people. | |||
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"I'd just like to say I love bi men! Obviously not all bi men as not all are my type. That's probably all it comes down to OP, not being their type. I must have a very small category of the type I fit into then lol ?? Probably. Of all the men on fab I'm still in single digits to those that fit my type. " I'm in single digits in my entire history of dating people I aim not to do one night stands and try looking for something a little yes I'm on here with very little in the way of meeting people from here. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people. "Let's not go there with that one I have club play on my doorstep in bpool and my anxiety definitely stops anything in terms of that. I'm tok shy for socials especially the type that these sites do. Let's just say I'm useless with that one. I know I have my limitations and definitely not ad out there and boisterous as t Others at socials can be a downfall or somehow a positive still trying to find that one | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people.
Let's not go there with that one I have club play on my doorstep in bpool and my anxiety definitely stops anything in terms of that. I'm tok shy for socials especially the type that these sites do. Let's just say I'm useless with that one. I know I have my limitations and definitely not ad out there and boisterous as t
Others at socials can be a downfall or somehow a positive still trying to find that one "I'm sorry to hear that OP. I get that it can be a daunting experience, meeting new people for the first time and particularly large groups. But, why not take the friend that you mentioned you have on here? The 2 of you could stay together and then they could approach the odd person and introduce then to you, or you could bother let people come to you maybe. Being shy though could be your real issue. People on here seem to like confidence in men, not arrogance, but a man that they thing will be able to entertain them both mentally and physically. You might have to get out of your comfort zone if you want to improve your chances of meeting folk. | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people.
Let's not go there with that one I have club play on my doorstep in bpool and my anxiety definitely stops anything in terms of that. I'm tok shy for socials especially the type that these sites do. Let's just say I'm useless with that one. I know I have my limitations and definitely not ad out there and boisterous as t
Others at socials can be a downfall or somehow a positive still trying to find that one
I'm sorry to hear that OP. I get that it can be a daunting experience, meeting new people for the first time and particularly large groups. But, why not take the friend that you mentioned you have on here? The 2 of you could stay together and then they could approach the odd person and introduce then to you, or you could bother let people come to you maybe.
Being shy though could be your real issue. People on here seem to like confidence in men, not arrogance, but a man that they thing will be able to entertain them both mentally and physically. You might have to get out of your comfort zone if you want to improve your chances of meeting folk. "Yeah man. I get the anxiety, truly I do. Maybe going 0-50 intona big social or club environment isn't for you OP, but there's smaller in-betweens you can look into. Especially if you have a friend to getcha back, like my buddy up there says. | |||
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"A man being bi isn't an issue with most ppl I know on the scene, in fact a bi mmf is right up there with a lot of ladies top fantasies! It is just a lottery of when your messages are hitting a ladies inbox, are they already chatting to someone, yours will go unread and move down their inbox. Are they just reading forum posts, or in a chat room, or doing fabmin, or still logged on whilst dealing with a phone call/making dinner/a friends called round. There are 100's of reasons a message isn't read or even noticed, 99% of those reasons are not because of you being bi." Yeah I see what ur saying that is why i specifically message women when they are online or else very likely to go unread, or I can think of the numerous and I mean numerous of times it will get read then deleted. Now of course thats their perogative but after the first ten like that it's either I'm approaching it all wrong I'm boring or the reason I'm suggesting. If u take a sample and get the same response then clearly there is something wrong with the source then. I.e me | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people.
Let's not go there with that one I have club play on my doorstep in bpool and my anxiety definitely stops anything in terms of that. I'm tok shy for socials especially the type that these sites do. Let's just say I'm useless with that one. I know I have my limitations and definitely not ad out there and boisterous as t
Others at socials can be a downfall or somehow a positive still trying to find that one
I'm sorry to hear that OP. I get that it can be a daunting experience, meeting new people for the first time and particularly large groups. But, why not take the friend that you mentioned you have on here? The 2 of you could stay together and then they could approach the odd person and introduce then to you, or you could bother let people come to you maybe.
Being shy though could be your real issue. People on here seem to like confidence in men, not arrogance, but a man that they thing will be able to entertain them both mentally and physically. You might have to get out of your comfort zone if you want to improve your chances of meeting folk. "She's part owner of club play in bpool so sadly she can't just spend her time with me as she has the club to run and sadly I'm usually there on my own which is never a good start anyway when it comes to clubs especially being a quiet one anyway. Just dnt get that much enjoyment anymore from them end up just on my own drinking a few and outside on my phone turns into quite the lonely night so not been in awhile in fairness now because dnt get much enjoyment out of it at all anymore. | |||
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"So what I do Say your straight and just be bi Best of both worlds " What I'm hoping to avoid but I do want to put the hypothesis to the test. Just don't know if I could do it too many morals yo do it and be happy about it lol | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Never would despite what I say I do respect people and their choices. I try never to lie and just try be myself seems like that's not good enough. Seems I go wrong somewhere and if like to find out where. Cause either all women I've messaged on here are wrong or more than likely it's something I'm doing that's wrong
Stop messaging.
It's a fucking awful system.
Go to socials instead.
I agree with this. Get yourself to socials and meet people face to face. Online, you could be wording things wrong or having things taken the wrong way, or you might just not be as appealing as 1 of the other thousand guys vying for the same thing you are. Face to face though at a social, you'll not go unmissed as long as you're chatty and then you'll find it easier to connect with people.
Let's not go there with that one I have club play on my doorstep in bpool and my anxiety definitely stops anything in terms of that. I'm tok shy for socials especially the type that these sites do. Let's just say I'm useless with that one. I know I have my limitations and definitely not ad out there and boisterous as t
Others at socials can be a downfall or somehow a positive still trying to find that one
I'm sorry to hear that OP. I get that it can be a daunting experience, meeting new people for the first time and particularly large groups. But, why not take the friend that you mentioned you have on here? The 2 of you could stay together and then they could approach the odd person and introduce then to you, or you could bother let people come to you maybe.
Being shy though could be your real issue. People on here seem to like confidence in men, not arrogance, but a man that they thing will be able to entertain them both mentally and physically. You might have to get out of your comfort zone if you want to improve your chances of meeting folk.
She's part owner of club play in bpool so sadly she can't just spend her time with me as she has the club to run and sadly I'm usually there on my own which is never a good start anyway when it comes to clubs especially being a quiet one anyway. Just dnt get that much enjoyment anymore from them end up just on my own drinking a few and outside on my phone turns into quite the lonely night so not been in awhile in fairness now because dnt get much enjoyment out of it at all anymore. "If that lady is a good friend, I would imagine she would be happy to help you, when she has the free time so here's my new thought process. As she's part owner she must have a wide connection base. So, why not ask her if she could possibly contact some of those people, and arrange a more intimate social in a smaller venue somewhere, at a time that suits everyone( working around club commitments etc), and you would feel more comfortable getting to know people. The other people would be there not knowing this is mostly to help you out, so they would likely be intersted in attending this different type of social. You would have to make a big effort though to talk to folk, whether it's daunting or not, plus stay off your phone and keep the beers in the very low numbers. If she would be willing to set that up OP I think it might work for you. Otherwise, start some more threads on here. Talk about your interests and not your problems. Engage with folk like you're doing now, find people on those threads that you connect with and maybe something can happen for you from there. If you do go the thread route I'll watch out for you and never let your threads go unanswered and I'm sure some other regulars posters will be happy to get involved too. | |||
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"I do try and connect especially on here and yes I dnt drink to excess because that never works out for anyone, I do try just be myself for the most part wouldn't be right to act as something else just to try and achieve something and I'd feel awful if I did. I try to be as open ad honest as I can be. Best policy in my opinion. Even if as u can tell seems to work against me. Aswell as it definitely wouldn't mean the same if u go in with a lie. That's no good for anyone in the long run " Keep the faith pal. You definitely don't sound like a bad guy, so just keep at it. It'll take however long it takes but you'll get meeting someone you like again, I'm sure | |||
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"I do try and connect especially on here and yes I dnt drink to excess because that never works out for anyone, I do try just be myself for the most part wouldn't be right to act as something else just to try and achieve something and I'd feel awful if I did. I try to be as open ad honest as I can be. Best policy in my opinion. Even if as u can tell seems to work against me. Aswell as it definitely wouldn't mean the same if u go in with a lie. That's no good for anyone in the long run Keep the faith pal. You definitely don't sound like a bad guy, so just keep at it. It'll take however long it takes but you'll get meeting someone you like again, I'm sure "Cheers pal will try get my head back up and work forward. See where life's path takes me next lol | |||
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"I do try and connect especially on here and yes I dnt drink to excess because that never works out for anyone, I do try just be myself for the most part wouldn't be right to act as something else just to try and achieve something and I'd feel awful if I did. I try to be as open ad honest as I can be. Best policy in my opinion. Even if as u can tell seems to work against me. Aswell as it definitely wouldn't mean the same if u go in with a lie. That's no good for anyone in the long run Keep the faith pal. You definitely don't sound like a bad guy, so just keep at it. It'll take however long it takes but you'll get meeting someone you like again, I'm sure
Cheers pal will try get my head back up and work forward. See where life's path takes me next lol "That's the spirit | |||
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"Definitely advise you to be yourself. I know it is frustrating but it is better to hold on for the people that genuinely want to meet you for who you are. (There are some of us that like bi men) Most couples seem to want a bicurious woman, I could put it on my profile that I'm bicurious to get couples to meet me, but I'm not. " I do try to have this same way of thinking and have always been myself, its just mainly a hypothesis I would love to test, just to see the outcome of it. I would always offer the same advice u've given me as that is the only way you will find what you want and the right people to meet. My profile is exactly what u get from me. I try never to lie as it goes against my principals and morals as a person. Even if as you can see I believe it maybe going against me lol | |||
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"If someone says no bisexual men then that’s fine for us, in the same manor we won’t meet straight men in a threeway. We all have preferences and these must be respected. No one likes a liar" I respect people's wishes I dnt message anyone who explicitly states they don't want bisexual men nor do I message others if they don't want single guys I am respectful to people's wishes. I still belive being urself is the only way to meet the right people, but would love to put my suspicions to the test and just explore what would happen b | |||
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"Tbf mate I've found the complete opposite and I've been here a looooooong time ... As long you're upfront and honest about it then being bi hasn't hindered me one iota "Guess it's just a me thing then obviously I'm going wrong somewhere else when messaging | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do. "*** Yes, but just little white lies. Rounding up 0.25 inch on cock size, or making someone's arse look smaller in their head than it is. | |||
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"Tbf mate I've found the complete opposite and I've been here a looooooong time ... As long you're upfront and honest about it then being bi hasn't hindered me one iota
Guess it's just a me thing then obviously I'm going wrong somewhere else when messaging "You have 12 verifications so I would suggest you're not doing too bad  | |||
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"Tbf mate I've found the complete opposite and I've been here a looooooong time ... As long you're upfront and honest about it then being bi hasn't hindered me one iota
Guess it's just a me thing then obviously I'm going wrong somewhere else when messaging
You have 12 verifications so I would suggest you're not doing too bad "Most of them aren't intimate meets mainly through socialsat a club and generally just a meet and greet kind of verification. Think I can count on one hand how many intimate verifications I've had in 15 years. | |||
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"I wouldn’t if I were you. From what I’ve seen on here the majority of women prefer a bi guy. Just do a forum search. As for the experiment, a bit pointless and deceitful. Why pretend you’re something you’re not? " Honestly I'd rather not but it maybe would help decide on what I'm doing thats so wrong when messaging because I am at a loss now on what I'm getting wrong. Pride myself in being honest. It would be a case just to ease my suspicions it would be interesting if certain profiles got back me if I did fo that though. Definitely would open my eyes to how things work. | |||
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"I wouldn’t if I were you. From what I’ve seen on here the majority of women prefer a bi guy. Just do a forum search. As for the experiment, a bit pointless and deceitful. Why pretend you’re something you’re not? Honestly I'd rather not but it maybe would help decide on what I'm doing thats so wrong when messaging because I am at a loss now on what I'm getting wrong. Pride myself in being honest. It would be a case just to ease my suspicions it would be interesting if certain profiles got back me if I did fo that though. Definitely would open my eyes to how things work. " Maybe they would but what difference would it make? It’s still lying to them. Some women prefer straight men. I think it’s deceitful. Just stick to those who want to meet bi men. There are plenty. | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? " Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that. | |||
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"I really don’t think being bi has anything to do with it as if you read the forums most men struggle . I think it’s more fab in general that has gone downhill we don’t meet on here anymore as by the time you filter out the fakes and fantasists we are left with a extremely small amount of people. I really don’t think being dishonest is the right way to go about anything as personally I think it’s all about preference and their are plenty of women that enjoy meeting bi men being dishonest gets you nowhere on a site like this . " Well if I get replies from profiles that have previously deleted me or ignore me from a profile that states I'm bi to a profile that states I'm straight it would prove that what I'm doing is not the issue but would then come down to them not admitting that they won't see bi men so it would actually clear a host of things. | |||
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"I really don’t think being bi has anything to do with it as if you read the forums most men struggle . I think it’s more fab in general that has gone downhill we don’t meet on here anymore as by the time you filter out the fakes and fantasists we are left with a extremely small amount of people. I really don’t think being dishonest is the right way to go about anything as personally I think it’s all about preference and their are plenty of women that enjoy meeting bi men being dishonest gets you nowhere on a site like this . Well if I get replies from profiles that have previously deleted me or ignore me from a profile that states I'm bi to a profile that states I'm straight it would prove that what I'm doing is not the issue but would then come down to them not admitting that they won't see bi men so it would actually clear a host of things. " But then you’re not being true to yourself. | |||
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"I really don’t think being bi has anything to do with it as if you read the forums most men struggle . I think it’s more fab in general that has gone downhill we don’t meet on here anymore as by the time you filter out the fakes and fantasists we are left with a extremely small amount of people. I really don’t think being dishonest is the right way to go about anything as personally I think it’s all about preference and their are plenty of women that enjoy meeting bi men being dishonest gets you nowhere on a site like this . Well if I get replies from profiles that have previously deleted me or ignore me from a profile that states I'm bi to a profile that states I'm straight it would prove that what I'm doing is not the issue but would then come down to them not admitting that they won't see bi men so it would actually clear a host of things. But then you’re not being true to yourself. " Doesn't mean I would meet them nor would I wish to, however it still would clear things up and confirm or clear my hypothesis. | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that." A lot probably don’t state whether they prefer straight or bi though. I don’t. So how would you know if that’s the reason? Most don’t give reasons. Again, I don’t. | |||
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"I really don’t think being bi has anything to do with it as if you read the forums most men struggle . I think it’s more fab in general that has gone downhill we don’t meet on here anymore as by the time you filter out the fakes and fantasists we are left with a extremely small amount of people. I really don’t think being dishonest is the right way to go about anything as personally I think it’s all about preference and their are plenty of women that enjoy meeting bi men being dishonest gets you nowhere on a site like this . Well if I get replies from profiles that have previously deleted me or ignore me from a profile that states I'm bi to a profile that states I'm straight it would prove that what I'm doing is not the issue but would then come down to them not admitting that they won't see bi men so it would actually clear a host of things. But then you’re not being true to yourself. Doesn't mean I would meet them nor would I wish to, however it still would clear things up and confirm or clear my hypothesis. " It wouldn’t though. How? | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that. A lot probably don’t state whether they prefer straight or bi though. I don’t. So how would you know if that’s the reason? Most don’t give reasons. Again, I don’t. " Maybe not but if u message the same person twice one from u as a profile being bi then again froma profile of being straight and u get a reply from the straight one I think that's a clear indicator | |||
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"I really don’t think being bi has anything to do with it as if you read the forums most men struggle . I think it’s more fab in general that has gone downhill we don’t meet on here anymore as by the time you filter out the fakes and fantasists we are left with a extremely small amount of people. I really don’t think being dishonest is the right way to go about anything as personally I think it’s all about preference and their are plenty of women that enjoy meeting bi men being dishonest gets you nowhere on a site like this . Well if I get replies from profiles that have previously deleted me or ignore me from a profile that states I'm bi to a profile that states I'm straight it would prove that what I'm doing is not the issue but would then come down to them not admitting that they won't see bi men so it would actually clear a host of things. But then you’re not being true to yourself. Doesn't mean I would meet them nor would I wish to, however it still would clear things up and confirm or clear my hypothesis. " And that’s all it is. A hypothesis. Which as the dictionary says is a reasoning without any assumption of truth I’ve gone to message people and see they’ve blocked me. I’ve talked to people and it’s not worked out as I had hoped. There’s a multitude of reasons and trying to focus on one or any, especially when you can’t change that, won’t help you | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that. A lot probably don’t state whether they prefer straight or bi though. I don’t. So how would you know if that’s the reason? Most don’t give reasons. Again, I don’t. Maybe not but if u message the same person twice one from u as a profile being bi then again froma profile of being straight and u get a reply from the straight one I think that's a clear indicator " Oh you mean 2 profiles? Blimey that’s a lot of effort. I really don’t get the logic in this at all. | |||
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"I really want to put a certain thing to the test on here and that's bi men with females. I'm a firm believer now that after quite a good number of years underneath me that a majority of women will always villainise bi guys on here and it will take alot to persuade me otherwise. I see it in alot of female profiles that they won't touch bi guys fair choice but I would love to go the route of classing myself as a straight guy just to examine the difference in replies I get. Yes not truthful but I think it would confirm the theory I have with it. I pride myself on being honest but wish to examine the hypothesis that I have. Well it's either that or I'm just completely useless when approaching first messages. But I'm 99% certain of which it would go." Surely if a woman ‘villainises’ you for being bi then she’s not the sort of person you would want to be with? There’s a fine line between preference and bigotry but so long as that line isn’t crossed is there any harm being done? | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that." oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here)" Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly | |||
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"People like to blame all sorts of things for not being able to get a meet on here. Are you saying there are no successful bi guys on here, because if being bi is the real reason for not getting a meet on here then it would surely be the same for all bi guys. " I'd generally just hope ot wasn't down to who I was so need to find something to focus on. Because if its down to me being me then I'm in for a very lonely rest of life | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly " Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc?" That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol " Have you ever been to a fab group social? Maybe worth a try. Perhaps you will have more luck face to face. | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol " The trouble with negativity and self doubt is it eats away at you and yes - you probably are projecting that even if you don't realise it. As others have said, if what you are doing isn't working for you, try something different. | |||
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"Dude, the woe is me approach does not work here. If all you’re going to do, is shoot down suggestions that might improve your success here, then what’s the point in sticking around? " At end of day I can only be myself I wear my heart on my sleeve and portray who I am and how i feel maybe not for everyone especially on here but again like people have said what's the point in lying about who or what I'm feeling if this is me right now then that's what I give. If I start pulling myself down even further then I'd be afraid at where that might lead in itself and that getting beyond fab and beyond alot of things | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol " Can you pull in real life? Like on a night out/ at pub? | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol Can you pull in real life? Like on a night out/ at pub? " Very rarely because and yes j know this works against me way too shy and my anxiety loves to kick in and takeover same as club meets last time I pulled would have year and half ago abouts lol | |||
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"Dude, the woe is me approach does not work here. If all you’re going to do, is shoot down suggestions that might improve your success here, then what’s the point in sticking around? At end of day I can only be myself I wear my heart on my sleeve and portray who I am and how i feel maybe not for everyone especially on here but again like people have said what's the point in lying about who or what I'm feeling if this is me right now then that's what I give. If I start pulling myself down even further then I'd be afraid at where that might lead in itself and that getting beyond fab and beyond alot of things " Exactly. Be yourself. And don’t take it all personally. Men very rarely get messages from women on here and 99% of the messages are ignored. That’s the way it is. I’ve been here 8 or 9 years and can count on one hand how many messages I’ve had from women. It’s a ratio thing. Not a you thing. | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol Can you pull in real life? Like on a night out/ at pub? Very rarely because and yes j know this works against me way too shy and my anxiety loves to kick in and takeover same as club meets last time I pulled would have year and half ago abouts lol" The honest question is what do you want? When you have worked that out albeit a relationship or something casual then look at that. Without really knowing that you’ll go round and round in circles. You say you’re bi, so are you up for a relationship with a man? If you have clarity then you’ll betray clarity and that’s a lot easier for people to understand | |||
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"What's the point ? You find out bi men are "vilanised". What can you do with that info ? Some dont like bi guys. It's a preference. You can discuss if this is rooted somewhere from the past, bit noone is going to change their mind. But plenty do. Plenty look for it. Choose them. Why wouldnt you ? Ur missing the point I dnt go out my way to message people who clearly state that they dnt want bi guys I respect that this is more to find out from the others who dnt specifically state that nd just to put an end to the curiosity I have with it. Would also probs lead me to know what I'm actuaky getting wrong if it's not that.oh,I'm not assuming you are. That's just a daft approach for anyone. Many of us here can tell you it's a negative preference for some and a positive preference for others. If you want my take, it's largely neutral, but more positives than negatives. We can use our experience to provide some meta anslysis. I'd start with asking yourself why this important to you. And I doubt its pure intellectual curiosity. (If it is, I'd challenge your ethical decisions here) Well part of it since I've been on here for 15 years now give or take a few months out through relationships and general life I can count on one hand the replies I've had. Usually just deleted or ignored mainly Maybe it’s time to try somewhere different. Dating sites etc? That's even worse I get even less response with those and I'm just as honest. I'm literally losing hope in actually ever finding someone to settle down with dnt mind having fun of and when I get chance but I dnt just want that anymore and I'm on numerous sites for that with even worse rate tha I have on here must be my aura lol Can you pull in real life? Like on a night out/ at pub? Very rarely because and yes j know this works against me way too shy and my anxiety loves to kick in and takeover same as club meets last time I pulled would have year and half ago abouts lol" If you can’t pull very well where it’s easiest (in person) Why do you think you’ll do well where it’s hardest (fabs) For guys, fabs is the hardest avenue for casual sex, hookups and relationships, by far You need the fix what’s up at the easiest level before you try here | |||
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Different routes have different success rates for different people. I'd absolutely not make any judgement about yourself from if one route is working or not.
Fab can be terrible. Even if you have success with replies that doesn't mean you wil get the success you want with meets. That's true even if you are looking for sex and nothing more. I was comparing notes with someone who you'd think would be swimming in dick. Shes had more success outside of fab, and even then it's not as much as you'd expect.
I don't have great advice. All I can suggest is letting go of the result and seeking to enjoy the process. I hate the idea of chatting up as it's all based on getting a result. Have conversations with people with the view of just enjoying the conversation. Think about what you value and roll with that.
I love learning things. So I can go out with the idea that I'm gonna learn something new from a stranger every day. That's something more within my gift.
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"Dude, the woe is me approach does not work here. If all you’re going to do, is shoot down suggestions that might improve your success here, then what’s the point in sticking around? At end of day I can only be myself I wear my heart on my sleeve and portray who I am and how i feel maybe not for everyone especially on here but again like people have said what's the point in lying about who or what I'm feeling if this is me right now then that's what I give. If I start pulling myself down even further then I'd be afraid at where that might lead in itself and that getting beyond fab and beyond alot of things " Given the choice, which women on fab are. Would you rather spend time with someone who is positive or negative? If fab isn’t making you feel positive then maybe take a step away from it and find an activity that brings you joy, then come back when you are feeling happier in yourself. | |||
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"People like to blame all sorts of things for not being able to get a meet on here. Are you saying there are no successful bi guys on here, because if being bi is the real reason for not getting a meet on here then it would surely be the same for all bi guys. I'd generally just hope ot wasn't down to who I was so need to find something to focus on. Because if its down to me being me then I'm in for a very lonely rest of life " Don't blame your sexualality but also don't blame yourself. I've had many wonderful relationships with lots of stunningly beautiful and sexy women - would I be successful on here as a single guy, absolutely not. Meet real people in real life would be my suggestion. K. | |||
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"In a world where society in general wants everything to be neatly pigeon holed, bi people don't fit in. A lot of people can only see gay or straight and if you're not straight then you are gay. If someone holds these views though then they're simply not a good match for you so there is no loss. If you're looking for a female partner as a bi guy then in my experience the best matches are bi women. Fab is hard for single men, straight or bi. It's not your sexuality, it's that your profile is just very average. If I was looking for a guy for a night, yours would get completely lost in the background noise. " Just a slight ouch in that one regarding the profile lol. I've been around long enough and old enough to know what I want personally, finding it is totally different. Not on here 24/7 and do have a life outside of fab. The problem I've got is that combining dating apps, this and just going out and meeting someone is that it just generally never seems to happen for me. Honestly it's more a case of trying to work out what is putting people especially women off me. I look after myself, decent job, despite how this looks actually easy going and decent person. Cause no issues try to go out and enjoy myself barring being quite shy and my anxiety giving me a kick. Even from here I dnt go out to try and meet someone just for sex either prefer to get to know them abit first like you would in everyday life. Think I'm just the average boring guy that never gets that 2nd look I've seen that far too often when out with my other mates. Who always end up pulling the girls lol | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do. "Asked them all have you? | |||
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"Lie to get a fuck. Apparently all men do.
Asked them all have you? "Despite with what I've said with you lying about urself will never work out. You wo t meet the right people if you lie about who you are and won't find meaningful connections that way | |||
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