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" I support man city and we will play against tottenham tommorow and I reckon that we will win with 2-1 "I support Spurs and I think man city are going to win 6-0  | |||
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" I support man city and we will play against tottenham tommorow and I reckon that we will win with 2-1
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"I’m a brighton fan, we have Chelsea Sunday. Could be tough after playing Thursday and lots of injuries and suspensions but think we might be able to pull off 1-2 win. Good luck everyone " Hope you do ‘em. Congratulations on qualifying for the next stage of the Europa League - excellent achievement! | |||
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" I support man city and we will play against tottenham tommorow and I reckon that we will win with 2-1
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"Great win for The Arsenal today just need those below all to cock up a man u v Newcastle draw would be good. Also strange kick off time on a Saturday night that's asking for trouble fan's on the lash all day, game ends as pub's kick out what genius thought of that Idea "Re the kick off time… the problem is a tv one Because it was picked by TNT sports, the normal kick off time would have been the 12.30 slot, but because man united played in turkey on Wednesday night it was deemed to be unfair What normally happens is that sky and tnt cooperate and would have swapped slots (12.30 for 5.30…. Which is what happened last week for Man City Liverpool on sky and Arsenal Brentford on TNT) If sky decided not to cooperate the only thing TNT can do is show it at 8.00 after the 5.30 slot has finished Anyway.. it’s going to bugger up any Man U fans trying to get back to Manchester.. because there are 2 ways to do it … a1 m62 or a69 m6… and the Cumbria route is fucked because of the snow… about 6 inches of it in the south lakes! | |||
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"With the squad we’ve got, and assuming that we avoid serious injury to key players, we must go into this tournament thinking we can genuinely win it. I’m rarely confident with England; this time just feels different." I might get in contact with some old Eurostar friends… 2nd game is in Frankfurt and 3rd game is in koln | |||
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"Newcastle had a lot of injuries going into that but still managed to grind out that win. Ok it was against a mid table club but none the less you have to win those sort of games. " Great result for the mighty mags flying high!  | |||
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"Newcastle had a lot of injuries going into that but still managed to grind out that win. Ok it was against a mid table club but none the less you have to win those sort of games. " Unbelievable performance. We should have been 2 or 3 up in the first half. Anthony Gordon is looking like a bargain. | |||
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"Arsenal are going to bring about my early death "I got a call at 2pm…. Sean… spare for tonight! Can you get down? Me.. in Newcastle… working till 3.30.. then on my way!!! My god!! Back at the car now…. Thank god once I get on m1 it’s 75mph till 2 minutes from home!!! Thank god I have tomorrow off!!! How can you pay basically pay 100 million for someone, and yet still be the bargain of the season!!!!! | |||
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"So… off the Spurs bandwagon and on the villa one? I don’t think I have seen many teams outplay Man City…. Saturday night when arsenal come to town could be an absolute blockbuster! " title decider  | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force!" You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out. | |||
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"Spurs form is worrying. Didn't strengthen in the areas they needed to in the summer. No decent striker outside of Son, lose a few players & cannot buy a win. AFCON coming up in January so it's only going to get worse. " Shame as I like ange... But he can't play that way in the prem with the team he's got. | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out." We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force!" Suppose it depends if you are happy with the giant that is utd being 6th, playing shit and having lost 6 games already. With the toxins of sancho martial rashford and fernandes still stinking up the place.... People expect things of utd... They don't expect spurs to be anything but spursy | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out. We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit "It's ironic that the injuries forced him to pick maguire and he's been your best defender this season. | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! Suppose it depends if you are happy with the giant that is utd being 6th, playing shit and having lost 6 games already. With the toxins of sancho martial rashford and fernandes still stinking up the place.... People expect things of utd... They don't expect spurs to be anything but spursy" I don't think they expect big things of United after the last ten years. I think it's just cool to meme on them after every bad result. With what EtH has had to put up with this season ala Greenwood, Antony, injuries, ownership being up in the air, Rashford playing awfully, I think 3 points off top 4 is pretty decent which is why the "lost the dressing room" narrative annoys the hell out of me. | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out. We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! Suppose it depends if you are happy with the giant that is utd being 6th, playing shit and having lost 6 games already. With the toxins of sancho martial rashford and fernandes still stinking up the place.... People expect things of utd... They don't expect spurs to be anything but spursy I don't think they expect big things of United after the last ten years. I think it's just cool to meme on them after every bad result. With what EtH has had to put up with this season ala Greenwood, Antony, injuries, ownership being up in the air, Rashford playing awfully, I think 3 points off top 4 is pretty decent which is why the "lost the dressing room" narrative annoys the hell out of me." That's very true... They do love a good crisis story. Are you convinced by EtH though? I thought he started strong but then seemed to lose his bottle and keep playing rashford and martial when he'd have been better off playing a plank of wood. Still seems there's something malign in the squad... Though could be the media portrayal of it. | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out. We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit
It's ironic that the injuries forced him to pick maguire and he's been your best defender this season.
He's been very good but that's not saying much when everyone else has been injured "If everyone in the squad showed the same character and mettle you'd be top 4. I wasn't a fan but he's been really impressive winning back his place. | |||
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"That's very true... They do love a good crisis story. Are you convinced by EtH though? I thought he started strong but then seemed to lose his bottle and keep playing rashford and martial when he'd have been better off playing a plank of wood. Still seems there's something malign in the squad... Though could be the media portrayal of it. " I am absolutely convinced we have the right manager. We just need to get the structure and recruitment right above him for him to succeed, especially as we have a mish-mash of players from previous managers with different playing styles. Martial I believe is out of contract at the end of this season so he's gone and Rashford is very much a confidence player which isn't good enough but at least Garnacho is going well enough and putting a shift in. EtH just needs to clear the deadwood and bring more players in to suit his style and then we can hopefully become more consistent but I'd rather miss out on CL football for two seasons getting it right than sacking him and repeat the cycle that hasn't worked for a decade. | |||
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"After looking at the table and seeing where Spurs and Newcastle are, if I hear any crisis talk about Man United or posts about EtH getting sacked, the block button is coming out in full force! You might have to block me after this lol but the difference between Man Utd & Spurs/Newcastle is that the latter 2 have a ridiculous amount of injuries. With Man Utd they're just playing terrible football. They've had a very kind run of fixtures, but whenever they play anyone in the top half they get found out. We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit
It's ironic that the injuries forced him to pick maguire and he's been your best defender this season.
He's been very good but that's not saying much when everyone else has been injured
If everyone in the squad showed the same character and mettle you'd be top 4. I wasn't a fan but he's been really impressive winning back his place. "Yeah, I'm being very harsh. Maguire has had shown a resilience a few other could learn from. It's even funnier how we wanted rid of McTominay too and how important he's been! | |||
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"We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit "Man Utd have not anywhere near the number of injuries as Spurs or Newcastle. Only Lisandro Martinez could you describe as an important 1st team player that's been injured. Varane never plays, Casemiro was being rotated before he got injured. He doesn't want to pick Sancho even though he's probably the best fit forward player they have. Is Hojlund still injured? because it's December now & he still can't score a league goal
Half the players Man Utd are starting were supposed to be sold in the summer. And it must be a concern that the guys the manager frankly overspent on, cannot even get in his starting lineup.
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"We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit
Man Utd have not anywhere near the number of injuries as Spurs or Newcastle. Only Lisandro Martinez could you describe as an important 1st team player that's been injured. Varane never plays, Casemiro was being rotated before he got injured. He doesn't want to pick Sancho even though he's probably the best fit forward player they have. Is Hojlund still injured? because it's December now & he still can't score a league goal
Half the players Man Utd are starting were supposed to be sold in the summer. And it must be a concern that the guys the manager frankly overspent on, cannot even get in his starting lineup.
I know a shit show when I see one & Man utd results are massively papering over the cracks "I'm not talking about now, we've just been able to get our players back and shock, apart from the Newcastle result, we were the form team. To think they're not comparable to Newcastle and Spurs injuries is massively showing your bias and of course the results are papering over cracks but guess what. It's a results business | |||
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"We've literally had our entire backline injured for the first half of this season! We brought in a third LB in on loan and he got injured as well! Casemiro is out injured, as was Hoijlund for a period as well. There's a reason Maguire and Evans started against City but oh, Maddison is injured which is a great excuse for it all to go to shit
Man Utd have not anywhere near the number of injuries as Spurs or Newcastle. Only Lisandro Martinez could you describe as an important 1st team player that's been injured. Varane never plays, Casemiro was being rotated before he got injured. He doesn't want to pick Sancho even though he's probably the best fit forward player they have. Is Hojlund still injured? because it's December now & he still can't score a league goal
Half the players Man Utd are starting were supposed to be sold in the summer. And it must be a concern that the guys the manager frankly overspent on, cannot even get in his starting lineup.
I know a shit show when I see one & Man utd results are massively papering over the cracks
I'm not talking about now, we've just been able to get our players back and shock, apart from the Newcastle result, we were the form team. To think they're not comparable to Newcastle and Spurs injuries is massively showing your bias and of course the results are papering over cracks but guess what. It's a results business"Oh, and Varane was our starting CB last season and Casemiro was being rotated because he's 31 years old as CDM. Try actually watching a team before you comment on them | |||
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"I'm not talking about now, we've just been able to get our players back and shock, apart from the Newcastle result, we were the form team. To think they're not comparable to Newcastle and Spurs injuries is massively showing your bias and of course the results are papering over cracks but guess what. It's a results business Oh, and Varane was our starting CB last season and Casemiro was being rotated because he's 31 years old as CDM. Try actually watching a team before you comment on them "Actually I've watched every single man utd game except Crystal Palace in the league cup & Galatasaray away & I'm telling you even in the games they've won, they look bad. If Casemiro at 31 is an issue playing at #6, why play him there? How does Mason Mount solve this problem? Every player playing at the #6 in man utd looks terrible. Eriksen did, Amrabat did, Casemiro did, Mctominay did. That shows you the problem is systemic & you may be able to just about get away with it vs Everton, Sheffield United Burnley, Luton, Brentford & Chelsea, but against anyone decent you see the deficiencies. Results can only hide poor performances for so long. | |||
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"Actually I've watched every single man utd game except Crystal Palace in the league cup & Galatasaray away & I'm telling you even in the games they've won, they look bad. If Casemiro at 31 is an issue playing at #6, why play him there? How does Mason Mount solve this problem? Every player playing at the #6 in man utd looks terrible. Eriksen did, Amrabat did, Casemiro did, Mctominay did. That shows you the problem is systemic & you may be able to just about get away with it vs Everton, Sheffield United Burnley, Luton, Brentford & Chelsea, but against anyone decent you see the deficiencies. Results can only hide poor performances for so long." Because Casemiro is #6 but because his legs are going, he can't start every game. The only other natural #6 we have is Amrabat and he isn't up to speed. Mount brought in as a #8 because Eriksen's legs are gone but he's obviously not fancied in that position and hasn't looked threatening enough and McTominay is a box to box #8 that makes late runs into the box but he's not a #6. Mainoo before he was injured was being groomed for that role which you could see when he played against Everton. This has to do with the poor recruitment processes that are currently in place that I mentioned above which is not on EtH. The performances haven't been great but while we've had injuries, they results have been the most important thing. That's it. | |||
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"My team (Newcastle) are playing the Spuds tomorrow, awful result Thursday against Everton, Trips making two mistakes, but hey he’s human and probably knackered as we can’t name a full squad! He’s hoping we bounce back " I rate trippier a lot and he looked knackered... But two mistakes... He just had a mare. Doesn't make many mistakes though | |||
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"My team (Newcastle) are playing the Spuds tomorrow, awful result Thursday against Everton, Trips making two mistakes, but hey he’s human and probably knackered as we can’t name a full squad! He’s hoping we bounce back I rate trippier a lot and he looked knackered... But two mistakes... He just had a mare. Doesn't make many mistakes though" I can’t criticise this team too much because we’ve been brilliant for the best part of 2 seasons now but I’m not having the knackered excuse. Yes we’ve played a lot of games but we always seem full of energy at home. You don’t magically become tired because you’ve drove a few hours down the road. | |||
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"The Cockney Reds are at home to Bournemouth and we need to win to keep pace with Aston Villa & Tottenham in the battle for top 4 " Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us. I’ve seen us play all the top teams this season (albeit the Arse fielded a weakened side in the Carabao cup) and the best team we’ve played is Bayer Leverkusen in a pre-season friendly. It’s a very open league this season. | |||
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"The Cockney Reds are at home to Bournemouth and we need to win to keep pace with Aston Villa & Tottenham in the battle for top 4 Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us. I’ve seen us play all the top teams this season (albeit the Arse fielded a weakened side in the Carabao cup) and the best team we’ve played is Bayer Leverkusen in a pre-season friendly. It’s a very open league this season." . From my Cockney Red perspective we haven’t played well for most of the season yet we are still in the mix for top 4 so I have some belief that we can pull it off.Even some of the teams below us with a 6-10 game winning streak can challenge.So yes in some ways it’s still a open league this season | |||
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"The Cockney Reds are at home to Bournemouth and we need to win to keep pace with Aston Villa & Tottenham in the battle for top 4 Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us. I’ve seen us play all the top teams this season (albeit the Arse fielded a weakened side in the Carabao cup) and the best team we’ve played is Bayer Leverkusen in a pre-season friendly. It’s a very open league this season." Liverpool fans I think have xavi alonso as the next manager after klopp… Leverkusen may be the best team in Europe not named Real Madrid at the moment… sometimes you don’t realise what players did for you team till they are not there anymore, for years at arsenal it was the “Gilberto silva “ position… this season I think arsenal fans from afar have a much greater appreciation for what Granit Xhaka did in that 8 role… because we haven’t been able to replace it.. and for what he is doing for bayer I don’t know if havertz/trossard is the stopgap answer or if he will try to get an 8 in the January window… as well as a 9! The short term 9 answer would be Ivan toney.. but you could imagine spurs,Chelsea driving that price up… Long term answer… if villa don’t end up in the champions league.. I do really like Ollie Watkins… if Arsenal want to try for the home run… victor oshimen at Napoli… but I fear if we wait till the summer, Chelsea will try grab him in January even though he would be on AFCON duty… | |||
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"Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us." To be fair, you played Tottenham's B team & they still played you off the park for the majority of the game. One fortunate deflection & one goalkeeping howler was what decided it. Spurs' weakness is the squad depth. It was a known weakness from the beginning of the season, but an unprecedented amount of injuries & suspensions all coming at the same time is what has torpedoed their season. I still think when Spurs get all their players back they'll finish above Man Utd, & possibly Newcastle. | |||
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"Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us. To be fair, you played Tottenham's B team & they still played you off the park for the majority of the game. One fortunate deflection & one goalkeeping howler was what decided it. Spurs' weakness is the squad depth. It was a known weakness from the beginning of the season, but an unprecedented amount of injuries & suspensions all coming at the same time is what has torpedoed their season. I still think when Spurs get all their players back they'll finish above Man Utd, & possibly Newcastle. " Was it really the B team…. Yes Maddison is a huge miss, and van der ven is a better central defender than I gave him credit for.. but those were the only two… Romero is a walking liability in any big games of getting sent off… so is recarlison… and you lot have been trying to tell us bissouma is a better 6 than Declan rice! | |||
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"The Cockney Reds are at home to Bournemouth and we need to win to keep pace with Aston Villa & Tottenham in the battle for top 4 Based on what I saw in the flesh on Thursday night, Tottenham will not be in the running for a Champions League spot, unless the PL gets the potential 5th spot. We played the first 45 minutes without bothering to touch the ball and they still couldn’t beat us. I’ve seen us play all the top teams this season (albeit the Arse fielded a weakened side in the Carabao cup) and the best team we’ve played is Bayer Leverkusen in a pre-season friendly. It’s a very open league this season. Liverpool fans I think have xavi alonso as the next manager after klopp… Leverkusen may be the best team in Europe not named Real Madrid at the moment… sometimes you don’t realise what players did for you team till they are not there anymore, for years at arsenal it was the “Gilberto silva “ position… this season I think arsenal fans from afar have a much greater appreciation for what Granit Xhaka did in that 8 role… because we haven’t been able to replace it.. and for what he is doing for bayer I don’t know if havertz/trossard is the stopgap answer or if he will try to get an 8 in the January window… as well as a 9! The short term 9 answer would be Ivan toney.. but you could imagine spurs,Chelsea driving that price up… Long term answer… if villa don’t end up in the champions league.. I do really like Ollie Watkins… if Arsenal want to try for the home run… victor oshimen at Napoli… but I fear if we wait till the summer, Chelsea will try grab him in January even though he would be on AFCON duty…" . What is happening with Thomas Partey and Jorginho could one of them not go in as a 6 allowing Rice to go as a 8.Personally I would continue with Havertz in the 8 as I feel he is a very underrated player technically he is very good possibly has to work on the box to box tracking back and forward what I call the ugly side of midfield play which doesn’t get mentioned too much but it’s what wins games and trophies. | |||
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" To be fair, you played Tottenham's B team & they still played you off the park for the majority of the game. One fortunate deflection & one goalkeeping howler was what decided it. Spurs' weakness is the squad depth. . " Majority of the game? As I have already said, we didn’t turn up for the first half. 2nd half there was only ever one team going to win that game, and they were not playing in all-white. If your lot knew how to aim for the white post thing with the net behind it, instead of curling balls into the crowd, you might win more games. Possession is only worth anything if you know what to do with it and Spurs were toothless on Thursday. You are right about your squad depth and it will be your undoing. Us smaller clubs can’t compete with the larger ones; it’s about the only thing we have in common. | |||
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"Was it really the B team…. Yes Maddison is a huge miss, and van der ven is a better central defender than I gave him credit for.. but those were the only two… Romero is a walking liability in any big games of getting sent off… so is recarlison… and you lot have been trying to tell us bissouma is a better 6 than Declan rice! " Declan Rice is overrated, but that's another debate
I will admit Bissouma's form has been poor since he was sent off against Luton.
VS West Ham, Spurs were missing Bentancur, Maddison, VanDer Ven, Sarr (on the bench), Richarlison (on bench), Perisic & Solomon (and to be fair the latter 2 were usually subs or rotated, but we're being regularly used), from the starting lineup.
3 of the starting back 4 are full backs, until Romero came back it was all 4 against City & Villa. And frankly for a team unable to field any recognize central defender Spurs held their own in both those games. Arguably should have beaten Villa.
Ben Davies is not an adequate replacement for Van Der Ven.
Spurs have no depth, when a few key players are missing, the bench is just not good enough. It's frankly a championship level bench.
But I can see from the style of play that when certain players come back & the squad is strengthened, Spurs will climb back up the league. It's just personnel they lack. | |||
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"Sorry?? Declan Rice is over-rated?? Not wishing to get too personal (although you are a Spurs fan, so not too bothered if I upset you) but do you actually understand how football is played? Declan Rice is a phenomenal player - a Rolls Royce of a footballer. It was my pleasure to see almost every game he played for WHU and he is the real deal. Spurs haven’t got a player in your entire squad near his talent (and I am a big Maddison fan)." I didn't say Rice is shit, just overrated which he is. He's like Pierre Emil Hojbjerg with a UK passport .... Carries the ball then passes sideways to more talented players. To say Spurs don't have a player in their squad as good as Rice is perfect example of how overrated he is. That's one of the most wild things I've ever seen someone earnestly type on the internet
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" I didn't say Rice is shit, just overrated which he is. He's like Pierre Emil Hojbjerg with a UK passport .... Carries the ball then passes sideways to more talented players. To say Spurs don't have a player in their squad as good as Rice is perfect example of how overrated he is. That's one of the most wild things I've ever seen someone earnestly type on the internet
Rice was so good for West ham last year that he managed to propell them to a nose-bleeding 14th place "I actually like Hojbjerg and thought you looked weaker with him off the pitch. He is one of those hard-working underrated players that do not get the credit they deserve. Getting back to Rice, if all you think he does is pass the ball sideways, I suspect you do not watch him that often. He can drive forward with the ball as well as any midfielder and has that uncanny knack of appearing all over the pitch without anyone noticing how he got there. He simply glides across the Pitch. I notice that you neglected to mention that he helped propel WHU to 6th and 7th in the 2 previous seasons (first back-to-back top 7 finishes in the Club’s 128-year history), as well as a European trophy in June. (As a Spurs fan, you might need to look the word “trophy” up. They tend not to give them out in September/October, when you lot start laying claim to the Premiership). As a matter of interest, now that Kane has gone, Who do you think is better than Rice in the Tottenham squad? Not a loaded question, genuinely interested. | |||
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" I didn't say Rice is shit, just overrated which he is. He's like Pierre Emil Hojbjerg with a UK passport .... Carries the ball then passes sideways to more talented players. To say Spurs don't have a player in their squad as good as Rice is perfect example of how overrated he is. That's one of the most wild things I've ever seen someone earnestly type on the internet
Rice was so good for West ham last year that he managed to propell them to a nose-bleeding 14th place
I actually like Hojbjerg and thought you looked weaker with him off the pitch. He is one of those hard-working underrated players that do not get the credit they deserve.
Getting back to Rice, if all you think he does is pass the ball sideways, I suspect you do not watch him that often. He can drive forward with the ball as well as any midfielder and has that uncanny knack of appearing all over the pitch without anyone noticing how he got there. He simply glides across the Pitch.
I notice that you neglected to mention that he helped propel WHU to 6th and 7th in the 2 previous seasons (first back-to-back top 7 finishes in the Club’s 128-year history), as well as a European trophy in June. (As a Spurs fan, you might need to look the word “trophy” up. They tend not to give them out in September/October, when you lot start laying claim to the Premiership).
As a matter of interest, now that Kane has gone, Who do you think is better than Rice in the Tottenham squad? Not a loaded question, genuinely interested."Trophy | |||
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"I actually like Hojbjerg and thought you looked weaker with him off the pitch. He is one of those hard-working underrated players that do not get the credit they deserve. Getting back to Rice, if all you think he does is pass the ball sideways, I suspect you do not watch him that often. He can drive forward with the ball as well as any midfielder and has that uncanny knack of appearing all over the pitch without anyone noticing how he got there. He simply glides across the Pitch. I notice that you neglected to mention that he helped propel WHU to 6th and 7th in the 2 previous seasons (first back-to-back top 7 finishes in the Club’s 128-year history), as well as a European trophy in June. (As a Spurs fan, you might need to look the word “trophy” up. They tend not to give them out in September/October, when you lot start laying claim to the Premiership). As a matter of interest, now that Kane has gone, Who do you think is better than Rice in the Tottenham squad? Not a loaded question, genuinely interested." Well first off, if you're talking about footballing talent : Lo Celso, Maddison, Bissouma, Son, Kulusevski, Udogie, Bentancur & Pedro Porro are all much better footballers than Declan Rice. Comfortably. Hojbjerg is very similar to Rice, in fact i would go as far to say that there's almost nothing Rice does that Hojbjerg can't do. He's a very solid defensive midfielder, who like Rice, can drive the ball forward with runs & shows lots of industry, and also like Rice, is not the most adventurous passer of the ball. It's all very safe & sideways, which is why he doesn't start games for Spurs anymore. Bissouma for example, has a trick & a feint, he's not afraid to take risks & hold on to the ball against a press, he breaks lines with invention & trickery. Rice doesn't do that - he can't. English players always get overhyped, but Rice is one of the most egregious examples of it. I don't even think he's the best midfielder at Arsenal. PS: I don't need to look up what a trophy is because last time I checked Spurs had many many more of those than West Ham | |||
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I prefer to judge them on their actual football & the way they play. As you said, if one of his best qualities is the fact you don't notice him on the pitch then that says a lot
I haven't ever seen Rice play live, which I don't think is that important. If anything I'm able to watch him better from the TV & not have people standing up in front of me blocking my view.
Yes, he's in the fortunate position to be playing for the team that's currently top, but guess what, so does Kai Havertz 
If you took Rice out of that Arsenal team & brought back Xhaka or a fit Thomas Partey, I don't think it makes any difference to where arsenal would be in the league. If anything, I think they're actually worse this season than they were last season. They're playing worse football & just about getting over the line against teams they blew away last year.
Spurs are where they are because at one point they had about 9 1st team players out injured or suspended. Before that Spurs were undefeated. Go ask Arsenal what a full strength Spurs did to them at the Emirates a couple of months back. | |||
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"Not looking good at the Theatre of Memes" No matter what the club might say and dome of the fans it's not a happy ship.. | |||
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"Not looking good at the Theatre of Memes No matter what the club might say and dome of the fans it's not a happy ship.. 4-0 they are getting cooked.
Rasmus and Anthony if I speak
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"We are never going to agree on this, so let’s just metaphorically shake hands and agree to disagree." I have Spurs fans saying bissoma is better than rice… and Chelsea fans saying caicedo is better than rice….man you fans saying Antony is better than saka… Good news for Man U today.. Bayern Munich got humped 5-1 at Frankfurt… unless Bayern were saving the good stuff for Man U | |||
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"In another game, what a win it was for bournemouth, they won against man utd with 3-0
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"The Road to wembley starts for us today as we host Mickleover in the FAtrophy 3rd round hopefully we can push on for a chance to finaly win something after 30+ years of nothing but relegation scraps .otid coyb owtb " nearly made a mess of that finished 3-3 then won 4-2 on pens all credit to mickleover 2 leagues below us but took the game to us all day main thing is through to next round step closer to Wembley | |||
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"We are never going to agree on this, so let’s just metaphorically shake hands and agree to disagree. I have Spurs fans saying bissoma is better than rice… and Chelsea fans saying caicedo is better than rice….man you fans saying Antony is better than saka… As far as I am concerned Rice is better than Bissoma & Caicedo and as a Man Utd fan there is no way Antony is better than Saka.As a right winger Saka & Salah are far better than Antony Good news for Man U today.. Bayern Munich got humped 5-1 at Frankfurt… unless Bayern were saving the good stuff for Man U " | |||
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"man you fans saying Antony is better than saka... Now that genuinely is bonkers "I'm sorry, but who in the fuck actually said this? We lost and we were shit but there's no need to make up bollocks for laughs | |||
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"Sheffield Wednesday just won at Stoke...the revival Rohls on. We got battered 4-0 by Leicester
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"Sheffield Wednesday just won at Stoke...the revival Rohls on. We got battered 4-0 by Leicester
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"Fair play to Villa well put together side and took their chance well and then weathered the storm. Not like we lost 3-0 "It's almost like you get 0 points regardless | |||
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"Sheffield Wednesday just won at Stoke...the revival Rohls on. " Stoke 0 Owls 1 **** Blades 1 Brentford 0 The first Sheffield double of the season | |||
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"Fair play to Villa well put together side and took their chance well and then weathered the storm. Not like we lost 3-0
It's almost like you get 0 points regardless "I know right. Man United 0-3 Bournemouth Man United 0-3 Newcastle Man United 0-3 Man City Man United 1-3 Brighton Arsenal 3-1 Man United Spurs 2-0 Man United Man United 2-3 Gala Copenhagen 4-3 Man United Bayern 4-3 Man United Man United 0-1 Palace Newcastle 1-0 Man United | |||
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"Fair play to Villa well put together side and took their chance well and then weathered the storm. Not like we lost 3-0
It's almost like you get 0 points regardless
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Man United 0-3 Man City
Man United 1-3 Brighton
Arsenal 3-1 Man United
Spurs 2-0 Man United
Man United 2-3 Gala
Copenhagen 4-3 Man United
Bayern 4-3 Man United
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"Fair play to Villa well put together side and took their chance well and then weathered the storm. Not like we lost 3-0
It's almost like you get 0 points regardless
I know right.
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Man United 0-3 Man City
Man United 1-3 Brighton
Arsenal 3-1 Man United
Spurs 2-0 Man United
Man United 2-3 Gala
Copenhagen 4-3 Man United
Bayern 4-3 Man United
Man United 0-1 Palace
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Very impressive use of Google there! I could do the same for Arsenal's league finishes since they last won the league, but not sure Fab has the bandwidth "Actually Bro it was from my Nigerian pals Twitter page. He’s holding the shame. Hey I lived through the Arsenal banter years when we were paying or the stadium and had such gems as Chamakh up front and Squilachi at the back. I know what it’s like to be a fallen giant. Ps what does Antony actually do? | |||
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Pepe has better stats than him and Sancho combined and we consider Pepe a flop. Think that someone is tripping "That's because that person doesn't exist! | |||
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Actually gutted Arsenal lost today - gives City that impetus and once they go on a run they are unstoppable so need as many teams ahead of them as possible.
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I'm sorry, but who in the fuck actually said this? We lost and we were shit but there's no need to make up bollocks for laughs "Don't shoot the messenger, I was just quoting what somebody else apparently said. To be honest, if Antony & Saka swapped clubs & someone told me an arsenal fan said that, I could believe that more because that is the type of thing they do. | |||
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"Fair play to Villa well put together side and took their chance well and then weathered the storm. Not like we lost 3-0
It's almost like you get 0 points regardless
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Man United 0-3 Man City
Man United 1-3 Brighton
Arsenal 3-1 Man United
Spurs 2-0 Man United
Man United 2-3 Gala
Copenhagen 4-3 Man United
Bayern 4-3 Man United
Man United 0-1 Palace
Newcastle 1-0 Man United
Very impressive use of Google there! I could do the same for Arsenal's league finishes since they last won the league, but not sure Fab has the bandwidth
Actually Bro it was from my Nigerian pals Twitter page. He’s holding the shame.
Hey I lived through the Arsenal banter years when we were paying or the stadium and had such gems as Chamakh up front and Squilachi at the back. I know what it’s like to be a fallen giant.
Ps what does Antony actually do? "I see your squilachi and raise you igor stepanov! And chamakh wasn’t that bad… remember glenn helder on the wing!!! Christopher wreh!
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"Aston Villa, I bloody love you so much "Spurs fans we saying the same a couple of months ago...about Spurs though of course. Son playing in Kane's position and scoring for fun. Then what happened?? | |||
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"Favourite really shitty footballers would be a great fab football topic… cult legends! I once knew someone who was arguing for the merits of jimmy carter .. "Let me get in early with some Spurs nominees... Stuart Nethercott Helder Postiga Ronny Rosenthal Vincent Janssen Clinton N'jie Calum Davenport That's just a few of the top of my head. | |||
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"Can we please discuss how Chelsea are getting away with murder here when it comes to bantering them? Over a billion spent on players and they're 12th!" I agree we should deffo banter let’s start with Jackson and Mudrk perhaps we should compare their stats to similar players in their possession.
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"Can we please discuss how Chelsea are getting away with murder here when it comes to bantering them? Over a billion spent on players and they're 12th!" Because it’s the most Chelsea thing they can do!
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"So... the final round of champions league games take place this week. Arsenal are already through as group winners & PSV are guaranteed runners-up spot. I suspect both teams may rest players, so I predict Arsenal to limp over the line & make it 5 wins from 6. Man Utd have to beat Bayern Munich at home, and rely on Copenhagen vs Galatasaray finishing as a draw to advance. Both United & Bayern had very disappointing results at the weekend so both teams will be eager to impress. Bayern have Harry Kane, who hasn't stopped scoring since his move to the Bundesliga... Man Utd - have Rasmus Hojlund. I predict the Germans will bounce back & stamp their authority on a United side struggling for goals & cohesion. PSV 1-2 Arsenal Man United 1-6 Bayern M. "CL top scorer Rasmus Hojlund? | |||
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"So... the final round of champions league games take place this week. Arsenal are already through as group winners & PSV are guaranteed runners-up spot. I suspect both teams may rest players, so I predict Arsenal to limp over the line & make it 5 wins from 6. Man Utd have to beat Bayern Munich at home, and rely on Copenhagen vs Galatasaray finishing as a draw to advance. Both United & Bayern had very disappointing results at the weekend so both teams will be eager to impress. Bayern have Harry Kane, who hasn't stopped scoring since his move to the Bundesliga... Man Utd - have Rasmus Hojlund. I predict the Germans will bounce back & stamp their authority on a United side struggling for goals & cohesion. PSV 1-2 Arsenal Man United 1-6 Bayern M.
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"So... the final round of champions league games take place this week. Arsenal are already through as group winners & PSV are guaranteed runners-up spot. I suspect both teams may rest players, so I predict Arsenal to limp over the line & make it 5 wins from 6. Man Utd have to beat Bayern Munich at home, and rely on Copenhagen vs Galatasaray finishing as a draw to advance. Both United & Bayern had very disappointing results at the weekend so both teams will be eager to impress. Bayern have Harry Kane, who hasn't stopped scoring since his move to the Bundesliga... Man Utd - have Rasmus Hojlund. I predict the Germans will bounce back & stamp their authority on a United side struggling for goals & cohesion. PSV 1-2 Arsenal Man United 1-6 Bayern M.
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"So... the final round of champions league games take place this week. Arsenal are already through as group winners & PSV are guaranteed runners-up spot. I suspect both teams may rest players, so I predict Arsenal to limp over the line & make it 5 wins from 6. Man Utd have to beat Bayern Munich at home, and rely on Copenhagen vs Galatasaray finishing as a draw to advance. Both United & Bayern had very disappointing results at the weekend so both teams will be eager to impress. Bayern have Harry Kane, who hasn't stopped scoring since his move to the Bundesliga... Man Utd - have Rasmus Hojlund. I predict the Germans will bounce back & stamp their authority on a United side struggling for goals & cohesion. PSV 1-2 Arsenal Man United 1-6 Bayern M.
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If only he could play against Galatasaray and Copenhagen every week!
And he scored against Bayern but feel free to ignore that from your agenda ". I am fairly certain Hojlund has scored against every team in our group but Onana has cost us goals against everyone in our group.I think in order to win tonight we need Bayern Munich to put out a weakened team which I don’t think will happen.Even if we win we need the other game to be a draw to go into the knockout stages of the Champions League | |||
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"Well played by the reserves today to get a draw in Eindhoven… Let’s see if Kane gets a hat trick against united…. "Well it's been refreshing to see The Arsenal do well in the group stage and beat team's that we would have previously struggled against. However it will be a different matter in knock out but finishing top means we will face the number two teams at least. I'd love to see us reach at least the quarter finals. | |||
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"Just seen this tweet “Replacing De Gea with Onana has cost the club over 100 million....50 on the keeper and 50 on dropping out of Europe. Shocking decision” Think Goldbridge is spot on. " Onana's mistakes have definitely cost us in our CL campaign and it's annoying that Gala and Copenhagen should've been 12 points and enought to see us through as we've played good football going forward in contrast to our league form. We needed to replace De Gea but I really thought Onana was the answer. | |||
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"Just seen this tweet “Replacing De Gea with Onana has cost the club over 100 million....50 on the keeper and 50 on dropping out of Europe. Shocking decision” Think Goldbridge is spot on. Onana's mistakes have definitely cost us in our CL campaign and it's annoying that Gala and Copenhagen should've been 12 points and enought to see us through as we've played good football going forward in contrast to our league form. We needed to replace De Gea but I really thought Onana was the answer." Oh well… always Thursdays to look forward to…. Oh!
If you want a stat of the night.. in all the years of the champions league group stage.. only on 4 occasions has an English team finished bottom of the group!
Basically you are buggering up the coefficient here!!! Only one good thing is that union Berlin came bottom of their group as well I think!
Should still be top 5 qualify for champions league next year, but it’s going to be a lot tighter now! | |||
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"Just seen this tweet “Replacing De Gea with Onana has cost the club over 100 million....50 on the keeper and 50 on dropping out of Europe. Shocking decision” Think Goldbridge is spot on. Onana's mistakes have definitely cost us in our CL campaign and it's annoying that Gala and Copenhagen should've been 12 points and enought to see us through as we've played good football going forward in contrast to our league form. We needed to replace De Gea but I really thought Onana was the answer. Oh well… always Thursdays to look forward to…. Oh!
If you want a stat of the night.. in all the years of the champions league group stage.. only on 4 occasions has an English team finished bottom of the group!
Basically you are buggering up the coefficient here!!! Only one good thing is that union Berlin came bottom of their group as well I think!
Should still be top 5 qualify for champions league next year, but it’s going to be a lot tighter now! "To be honest, I'm pretty happy to be missing out on Europa, normally you need to finish like 8th to do that! But I didn't know about the 5th CL spot which I assume may come under the new format for next season? | |||
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"Just seen this tweet “Replacing De Gea with Onana has cost the club over 100 million....50 on the keeper and 50 on dropping out of Europe. Shocking decision” Think Goldbridge is spot on. Onana's mistakes have definitely cost us in our CL campaign and it's annoying that Gala and Copenhagen should've been 12 points and enought to see us through as we've played good football going forward in contrast to our league form. We needed to replace De Gea but I really thought Onana was the answer. Oh well… always Thursdays to look forward to…. Oh!
If you want a stat of the night.. in all the years of the champions league group stage.. only on 4 occasions has an English team finished bottom of the group!
Basically you are buggering up the coefficient here!!! Only one good thing is that union Berlin came bottom of their group as well I think!
Should still be top 5 qualify for champions league next year, but it’s going to be a lot tighter now!
To be honest, I'm pretty happy to be missing out on Europa, normally you need to finish like 8th to do that!
But I didn't know about the 5th CL spot which I assume may come under the new format for next season?"It’s top 4 automatic.. plus if the premier league finishes top of the coefficient they will get another | |||
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"If you want another weird stat .. here is mine Of all the team in the top 5 European leagues (England, Spain,Italy, France and Germany) only 3 teams have lost more competitive games this season than man united Union Berlin Almaria Burnley " That is mental. All those teams are bottom of their respective leagues | |||
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"Is your team playing today? My team man city is playing against crystal palace and I reckon that we will win with 2-1 "Hoping for a bigger win than that (From a Brighton fan ) | |||
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"Thank god Tom Lockyer seems to be okay… holy fuck! " Didn't he have a heart operation earlier in the year? Glad he's ok. In other news City dropped more points | |||
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"Thank god Tom Lockyer seems to be okay… holy fuck! " Yeah there I was on my way to winning my bet and he goes and fucking collapses and voided it... The reaction has been lovely and human though. Both teams focusing on the injured tom..wishing him a speedy and full recovery. | |||
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"If you are Everton do you now appeal the 10 point deduction? I’d be tempted to swallow it.. and then the pressure potentially on Chelsea and Man City is huge " I'm a blue and have thought the same, can I tell you at the end of the season | |||
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"Cracking result for us up at City today, certainly wasn't expecting that! In Roy we trust. " The wheels are falling off citeh... | |||
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"Miley is a good player but I do hope that the don't overwhelm him. Let the kid play and take him out at the right point. " I think that was the plan today but unfortunately Joelinton went off with a hamstring injury. | |||
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