FabSwingers.com forum: Why do women feel the need the emotional connection to have sex?

By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Can't women just fuck recreationally?

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By *oxesMan
50 weeks ago

Southend, Essex

Why do men feel the need to have an emo connection can't they just fuck recreationally?

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By *otSoPetiteMortWoman
50 weeks ago

Hertfordshire

We don't and we can...

From MY personal experience, it's the Men who can't fuck without developing "feels".

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Emotional connection- not really, but chemistry, most definitely!

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I know right.

And then some dare have preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I think some people mistake an emotional connection for respect, communication and actually wanting to know their name first. I can fuck quite happily without getting attached or connecting but I don't just give that to anyone.

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By *esafinadOHolyNightMan
50 weeks ago

Belfast

If the forums and previous threads are anything to go by, I think it might lean slight towards the men being the gender more in need of an emotional connection. Though that is just what I think I've seen from the forums.

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By *inacolada3Couple
50 weeks ago

kettering

I think with swinging the last thing you want is emotional connection, i save that for my hubby, i just fuck other men for fun x

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By *ong-leggedblondWoman
50 weeks ago

Next Door

I need chemistry to be able to fuck someone, i don't need emotions.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman
50 weeks ago

Somewhere

"I think some people mistake an emotional connection for respect, communication and actually wanting to know their name first. I can fuck quite happily without getting attached or connecting but I don't just give that to anyone. "

This

And approach is very very important !!

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

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By *alandNitaCouple
50 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Sometimes they just tell you that so they don't hurt your feelings with the real reason....

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

That’s what balaclava’s and glory holes are for, apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

It’s something all men should learn and accept, preferably through experience

That girl that needs a few socials before you can hook up sucked a guy in the toilet after 4 words at a club

Welcome to reality lads

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By *oxesMan
50 weeks ago

Southend, Essex

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

It’s something all men should learn and accept, preferably through experience

That girl that needs a few socials before you can hook up sucked a guy in the toilet after 4 words at a club

Welcome to reality lads "

Basically from biological staff point is easier do it when to fake it than men.

Not saying a lack of emo Is faking it.

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By *esparate danMan
50 weeks ago

glasgow

Why is mimost sexual violence directed towards women

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"We don't and we can...

From MY personal experience, it's the Men who can't fuck without developing "feels"."

I second this.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

These kind of threads

. “Women”. Like we are all one and all think and feel the same.

I dunno. I’m not women.

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By *ellinever70Woman
50 weeks ago

Ayrshire

Why do men get annoyed when a woman won't have sex on his terms

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
50 weeks ago

Down the back of the sofa.

Ahh the good old self own in the thread title.

For me Sex without some level of emotional connection is always a bit meh

Got to be something there even if it’s just a strong friendship.

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By *etite_delightWoman
50 weeks ago

BunnyLand

This idea is actually supported by research suggesting that women often link emotional connection with sexual desire, possibly influenced by evolutionary factors favouring careful mate selection due to limited egg supply. Also psychological factors such as; How we raised, traditional approaches towards relationships , place in community etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

For me personally

If it’s just going to be sex I may as well just go to a club or sanua and over indulge in mindless sex

Or hop on the game and make bank out off mindless sex and

Most mindless sex feels like a transaction anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"This idea is actually supported by research suggesting that women often link emotional connection with sexual desire, possibly influenced by evolutionary factors favouring careful mate selection due to limited egg supply. Also psychological factors such as; How we raised, traditional approaches towards relationships , place in community etc.

You missed off pretty penis.

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By *etite_delightWoman
50 weeks ago

BunnyLand

You missed off pretty penis."

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By *apnDomMan
50 weeks ago

London

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Na, not how they work.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work. "

I disagree. Especially on here. From what I’ve read over the years it seems to be more women who are terrified of feelings than men.

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By *toC Thats MeWoman
50 weeks ago

Sheffield

No emotional connection needed. Attraction though….yes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work. "

I'm inclined to agree, where those whom say men get emotionally involved, I say this; I think women lure the men into a false sense of emotional involvement whereas the truth is women just can't fuck like blowing theiy nose in a handkerchief!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"I think with swinging the last thing you want is emotional connection, i save that for my hubby, i just fuck other men for fun x "

I've noticed that with couples. There is a much more defined boundary.

Single women seem to yearn for something more than just physical release.

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By *iss DevilWoman
50 weeks ago

Bedford

"No emotional connection needed. Attraction though….yes."

This! I need to be attracted to the person, have good chemistry with them, but I also like to feel respected and treated like a person rather than just a hole to fuck. This can only be achieved by talking to me in a club, establishing connection rather than just trying to touch me when I'm not looking.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

I ask because I got stung. I was happy to do something without a connection. someone was nurturing something in me for their own gratification. I was being given the impression it was something more whereas in fact the person was just an emotional vampire.

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
50 weeks ago

Manchester-ish

OP, if your profile text is remotely accurate then you have an unusual way of trying to make friends.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"I ask because I got stung. I was happy to do something without a connection. someone was nurturing something in me for their own gratification. I was being given the impression it was something more whereas in fact the person was just an emotional vampire.

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"

So one person makes all women the same.

Ok then

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"OP, if your profile text is remotely accurate then you have an unusual way of trying to make friends.

By being honest?

What would you prefer a mask and bullshit?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

So one person makes all women the same.

Ok then "

You see it on the profiles..."need an emotional connection yada yada yada...."

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By *toC Thats MeWoman
50 weeks ago

Sheffield

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"

LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work.

If you agree with that then you don’t understand women

When some pro athlete or rapper picks 5 girls out of the crowd and brings them backstage to fuck and chuck, do you think it’s because they had an emotional connection?

Women aren’t that different from men. They will just fuck if you’re hot enough. And if your not experiencing that, it’s because you don’t meet the criteria

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
50 weeks ago

Manchester-ish

"OP, if your profile text is remotely accurate then you have an unusual way of trying to make friends.

By being honest?

What would you prefer a mask and bullshit?"

Not at all. Just there is a big difference between

Why do women need?

And

Do women need?

One approach feels like a generalisation and rather attacking. The other starts a conversation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work.

If you agree with that then you don’t understand women

When some pro athlete or rapper picks 5 girls out of the crowd and brings them backstage to fuck and chuck, do you think it’s because they had an emotional connection?

Women aren’t that different from men. They will just fuck if you’re hot enough. And if your not experiencing that, it’s because you don’t meet the criteria "

They fuck rappers for the status and drugs and an opportunity to get in on more of the action. They're not doing it for the rapper!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
50 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

That's a HUGE assumption on your part.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
50 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"

You make it sound like a supermarket transaction.....I'm not a clubcard, this ain't Tesco...

I'm more middle aisle of Lidls

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By *rettyflamingoWoman
50 weeks ago

Where the flamboyance of flamingos live

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Yes we can dont generalise . I dont have to have an emotional connection it’s about pleasure

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"OP, if your profile text is remotely accurate then you have an unusual way of trying to make friends.

By being honest?

What would you prefer a mask and bullshit?

Not at all. Just there is a big difference between

Why do women need?

And

Do women need?

One approach feels like a generalisation and rather attacking. The other starts a conversation.

Well it seemed to work and I must confess, I did give the topic some thought, so I am guilty of being an agent provacateur.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work.

If you agree with that then you don’t understand women

When some pro athlete or rapper picks 5 girls out of the crowd and brings them backstage to fuck and chuck, do you think it’s because they had an emotional connection?

Women aren’t that different from men. They will just fuck if you’re hot enough. And if your not experiencing that, it’s because you don’t meet the criteria "

Harsh but true.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
50 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Is it always the same toilet ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Yes we can dont generalise . I dont have to have an emotional connection it’s about pleasure "

Read above about couples....more defined boundaries mentioned.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

That’s what balaclava’s and glory holes are for, apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work.

If you agree with that then you don’t understand women

When some pro athlete or rapper picks 5 girls out of the crowd and brings them backstage to fuck and chuck, do you think it’s because they had an emotional connection?

Women aren’t that different from men. They will just fuck if you’re hot enough. And if your not experiencing that, it’s because you don’t meet the criteria

They fuck rappers for the status and drugs and an opportunity to get in on more of the action. They're not doing it for the rapper!"

For your age, you are naive

I bet most of the women you know have fucked a guy within an hour of meeting him with no emotional connection

They just don’t tell you that

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Everyone is different, gender is irrelevant

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
50 weeks ago

North East Scotland, mostly

Maybe, just maybe, some people do? And enjoy it?

Nah, don't be silly. There are too many FACTS in this thread already to dispute that!

Mrs TMN x

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Think most people like the chemistry the connection and they confuse that with emotion. If I said I love to fuck you doesn’t mean I love you just what we do together has sparks, fun the chemistry is right and I want more lol

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

What do you mean 'recreationally'?

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By *on bonesMan
50 weeks ago

Northampton

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"
what on earth is an emotional vampire? Can someone smarter than me explain?

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By *rFoxAndXenoCouple
50 weeks ago

Weymouth

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By *rFoxAndXenoCouple
50 weeks ago

Weymouth

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Weymouth

OP, I can't quite believe you're banging this drum about women when your entire profile laments not having an emotional connection with one!

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By *illy IdolMan
50 weeks ago

Midlands

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

It’s something all men should learn and accept, preferably through experience

That girl that needs a few socials before you can hook up sucked a guy in the toilet after 4 words at a club

Welcome to reality lads "

I miss her

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

It’s something all men should learn and accept, preferably through experience

That girl that needs a few socials before you can hook up sucked a guy in the toilet after 4 words at a club

Welcome to reality lads

I miss her

I’m still here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

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Weymouth

OP, I can't quite believe you're banging this drum about women when your entire profile laments not having an emotional connection with one!

that's a big assumption... I'm lonely - not seeking a partner. you assume too much, comprehend incorrectly. I'm after friendship. that boat you suggest has sailed!

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods! what on earth is an emotional vampire? Can someone smarter than me explain? "

Think he’s maybe encountered a succubus, “It Doesn't Help That Underneath Our Clothes, Our Entire Bodies Are Covered In Scales."

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

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OP, I can't quite believe you're banging this drum about women when your entire profile laments not having an emotional connection with one!

that's a big assumption... I'm lonely - not seeking a partner. you assume too much, comprehend incorrectly. I'm after friendship. that boat you suggest has sailed!"

All joking aside, it’s not nice to hear anyone is lonely OP! Hope your ok, hard time of year but please don’t assume or judge all women are the same and want the same things from Fab or elsewhere. Hope find what you are looking for, each individual person is very different. The world would be very boring if all the same

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By *on bonesMan
50 weeks ago

Northampton

I read something about this a while ago. I don’t necessarily think it’s an emotional connection thing but more about respect and effort. A study finds that men are 30% more likely to have an orgasm during heterosexual sex. Which means that women just don’t seem to cum as much as men.

That’s due to the fact that a lot men are lazy in bed and only care about their own pleasure.

Now put yourself in a woman’s shoes. The only way

You’re gonna get an orgasm as a woman is if you have lesbian sex or if you’re gonna shag a man you need to find someone who will put in the effort to make sure you’re satisfied and won’t just roll over and fall asleep once he’s blown his load. And the only way to find a man who tries to make you cum is to build some sort of a positive rapport with that man, doesn’t necessarily mean an emotional connection.

Also look at sex scenes in movies and porn. The sex always seems to finish once the man cums. Hollywood and porn has conditioned most people to think that aim of sex is the cumshot which equates to male pleasure. You very rarely see a scene where after the man cums he uses he fingers and his mouth to make sure the woman also orgasms

Sorry for the long essay, I hope it helps

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By *illy IdolMan
50 weeks ago

Midlands

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

It’s something all men should learn and accept, preferably through experience

That girl that needs a few socials before you can hook up sucked a guy in the toilet after 4 words at a club

Welcome to reality lads

I miss her

I’m still here

Call me!

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
50 weeks ago

Manchester-ish

"OP, if your profile text is remotely accurate then you have an unusual way of trying to make friends.

By being honest?

What would you prefer a mask and bullshit?

Not at all. Just there is a big difference between

Why do women need?

And

Do women need?

One approach feels like a generalisation and rather attacking. The other starts a conversation.

Well it seemed to work and I must confess, I did give the topic some thought, so I am guilty of being an agent provacateur."

In that case, I suppose it depends on the sort of friends you want. Getting people to argue on the Internet is easy. Making friends not so much. I'm out of this thread now.

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By *esthetic21Man
50 weeks ago

Birmingham/Bristol

Not all women do and personally I avoid those types. I need some connection to have good sex

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Not really about gender is it?

Some like it and can and some don't.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"Not all women do and personally I avoid those types. I need some connection to have good sex"

I'll be following your lead in future...my lesson well and truly learned!

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By *eroLondonMan
50 weeks ago

Mayfair

"Why do men get annoyed when a woman won't have sex on his terms"

•

I suspect for the same reason ·some· women go thermonuclear when we refuse to bow to their unreasonable demands.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"Not really about gender is it?

Some like it and can and some don't.

The most true and sensible comment here

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

I don't. I've fucked people in clubs without chatting to them, just gone straight in for a kiss as the introduction.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
50 weeks ago

Tamworth

Can't men just not tell us what we all need for once? Would be great!

But honestly... in my own experience, it's guys who develop the feels, not women. Women are more than capable of enjoying sex without emotional connection

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

This

And approach is very very important !! "

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
50 weeks ago

North East Scotland, mostly

"Not really about gender is it?

Some like it and can and some don't.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
50 weeks ago

Staffordshire

What Lib. said.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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50 weeks ago

East Sussex

Completely emotionless sex isn't nice in my opinion. Almost everyone feels something, it doesn't have to be deep or long lasting. Mutual basic respect for and liking someone is enough for me. If i don't want to have a drink with someone on public and they with me it's not going to work

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By *JandCMCouple
50 weeks ago

cardiff

The wife has no emotional feelings or feel a link or anything with the guys we meet up with.

She literally tells me when we meet for me to choose someone.

Last time we had a hole session n she never even saw the guy until he finished n just before he left, she kept a blindfold on all the time

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Not really about gender is it?

Some like it and can and some don't.

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Indeed

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
50 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Sex is better when I'm invested in that person and genuinely invested in seeing them enjoy themselves.

The occasional indulgence in mindless hedonism with a pretty thing is fine, but it doesn't compare to doing it with someone I give a shit about. And if I'm going for hedonism, I am going to go for the most visually appealing option

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?"

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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50 weeks ago

East Sussex

"The wife has no emotional feelings or feel a link or anything with the guys we meet up with.

She literally tells me when we meet for me to choose someone.

Last time we had a hole session n she never even saw the guy until he finished n just before he left, she kept a blindfold on all the time"

I hadn't thought about that scenario. The same with ganbangs I guess, just the whole atmosphere and fulfilling of a fantasy is enough.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

"The wife has no emotional feelings or feel a link or anything with the guys we meet up with.

She literally tells me when we meet for me to choose someone.

Last time we had a hole session n she never even saw the guy until he finished n just before he left, she kept a blindfold on all the time"

The couples thing has been covered multiple times. The women who are in couples seem to be good with just the recreational aspect since the emotional aspect is already covered indoors with the old man!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
50 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?

Na, not how they work.

To be honest and I don't blame them, they want a fuck to last longer than that..

As comparisons go its a bit niche but hey..

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!"

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"the gatekeepers to sex" is a really negative way to look at consent

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all. "

I don’t either. It’s never been the case in my life

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By *ornycougaWoman
50 weeks ago

Wherever I lay my hat

"The wife has no emotional feelings or feel a link or anything with the guys we meet up with.

She literally tells me when we meet for me to choose someone.

Last time we had a hole session n she never even saw the guy until he finished n just before he left, she kept a blindfold on all the time

I hadn't thought about that scenario. The same with ganbangs I guess, just the whole atmosphere and fulfilling of a fantasy is enough.

Yep - horses for courses. In clubs or a GB I'm just there in the moment enjoying those hands, tongues and cocks. One on one - occsiinally a smash and dash is all I want. Usually I want chemistry, respect, desire, sexual compatibility. An emotional connection is definitely not required

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple
50 weeks ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow

From personal experience and From the messages we get, woman generally like to think that friendship will continue to develop after the sex, where as men generally want to get their rocks off and ghost.

This is apparent in the messages we get.

Of course not everyone is the same and generalisations will always be challenged.

Marc

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

"The wife has no emotional feelings or feel a link or anything with the guys we meet up with.

She literally tells me when we meet for me to choose someone.

Last time we had a hole session n she never even saw the guy until he finished n just before he left, she kept a blindfold on all the time

I hadn't thought about that scenario. The same with ganbangs I guess, just the whole atmosphere and fulfilling of a fantasy is enough.

Sounds reasonable to me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all. "

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

Which doctor was that?

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
50 weeks ago

Coventry

I don't think it's emotional connection as such and it's not just women who want what I think you're getting at. It's more what I call chemistry and its either there or it's not.

Not looking for romance, just to feel completely at ease and have natural flow. For me a big part of the fun is sharing a hot moment with someone. I'm not looking for a sex toy or something devoid of a personal factor. I enjoy the person, I love this side of it. For that the chemistry must be there.

Now that doesn't always mean we have to get to know each other for ages first or at all even. Although this is normally apart of it. However sometimes you just look at someone and they look at you and its there, its tangible. A specific time we spent with a couple who didn't really speak English springs to mind that was really hot. The chemistry was there despite the language barrier.

Basically the criteria is I want more than a someone who happens to made of woman and they're not bad looking. I need that spark, that chemistry. I think I speak for us both there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

Which doctor was that?"

I do not recall off the top of my head. I wasn't prepared to give references in a forum thread.

I remember it distinctly though being said in the topic being discussed.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

I don’t either. It’s never been the case in my life "

I imagine you’ve turned down sex more in your life than most men, that’s all it means really. Most men want sex (many want it with any women willing) and it’s the women saying yes or no

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By *layfullsamMan
50 weeks ago

Solihull

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Honest question and I guess it’s from your experiences especially combined with the strange “giving up the goods” comment.

But do you honestly believe women can’t have sex for fun ?

It’s covered by the 70’s racey song lyrics below although girls is probably better replaced with women in 2023

“Some girls will, some girls won't

Some girls need a lot of lovin' and some girls don't”

Find the right woman, treat her well (not money related) and she’ll want as much fun sex as you or more.

If she thinks you only want her “goods” and not the whole of her you’ll be lucky to get laid at all !!

Only my thoughts and I’m probably wrong

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

Which doctor was that?

I do not recall off the top of my head. I wasn't prepared to give references in a forum thread.

I remember it distinctly though being said in the topic being discussed."

Humsn relationships are more than the theory of a nameless doctor. I've heard this theory before summed up by Billy Connolly 'women need to feel loved to have sex and men need to have sex to feel loved'.

I think all men and women need to do is stop thinking in stereotypes and just communicate with each other. It's not that difficult

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

I don’t either. It’s never been the case in my life

I imagine you’ve turned down sex more in your life than most men, that’s all it means really. Most men want sex (many want it with any women willing) and it’s the women saying yes or no "

Can’t remember ever turning down sex with someone I’m with. Messages on here don’t exactly count!

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By *ris GrayMan
50 weeks ago

Dorchester

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"
some can most can't ce la vie

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By *ACOLCouple
50 weeks ago

limerick

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Well, I am not a sex toy so yeah I need to have a connection/chemistry.

Lina.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

I don’t either. It’s never been the case in my life

I imagine you’ve turned down sex more in your life than most men, that’s all it means really. Most men want sex (many want it with any women willing) and it’s the women saying yes or no

Can’t remember ever turning down sex with someone I’m with. Messages on here don’t exactly count!"

They still count. Just because it’s a no from you doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

It’s the same how guys are expected to make all the first moves. Guys make the move, women decide whether to accept it or not.

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By *ustBoWoman
50 weeks ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Yes some can. I have in the past but to be honest the sex was crap.

In saying that I do have to actually like someone before I 'gave up the goods' it's nothing to do with validation.

I find most men who complain about women on here not meeting them and think they all have some hive mind are the ones who have no clue at all about women.

You say OP that you were duped by a woman,one woman so now you judge all women by what she did. You only agree with the men on the thread who also are sprout crap that does not actually represent most of the women I know and certainly not me.

Maybe listen to the women who have answered you truthfully and you might find out a bit more about women's minds.

If you think women are gatekeepers to sex than you are approaching it wrong. Sex is and should be a two decision not one person having the upper hand.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
50 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

"Can’t remember ever turning down sex with someone I’m with. Messages on here don’t exactly count!"

I have probably said no to relationships with people I see more than I've said no to sex with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Why do people have to make such simplistic over generalisations? Some women can fuck without emotional connection; if they couldnt sites like this would be a little dead...

Some men require emotional connection too.

In my opinion most of us are complex. Id sooner fuck with an emotional connection. Sex is usually infinitely better this way. I do enjoy casual sex but it doesnt make me feel the same. Of course its also possible to build some sort of bond and connection with the right people on here and therein its possible to have connection without love or owing one another any more than mutual respect and great sex.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
50 weeks ago

Great Dunmow

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Yes plenty can and do. I was at a party last weekend and lots were doing just that

Shock horror some were even fucking or sucking a cock without even talking to the man in question beforehand

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
50 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!"

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

Which doctor was that?

I do not recall off the top of my head. I wasn't prepared to give references in a forum thread.

I remember it distinctly though being said in the topic being discussed.

I think all men and women need to do is stop thinking in stereotypes and just communicate with each other. It's not that difficult "

I’m with you on that! I’d listen to Uncle Billy more than a psychiatrist! Other wise words include, “if it wasn’t for your wellies, where would you be” and “never take an eejit with you, you can always pick one up when you get there”

The older I get, the more I understand these phrases

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

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By *inkylipsWoman
50 weeks ago

Debauchery

There is a big difference between emotional connection and chemistry. I don’t need an emotional connection but I certainly want the feeling I want to actually fuck the person…… without the chemistry it’s robotic and stilted

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

Which doctor was that?

I do not recall off the top of my head. I wasn't prepared to give references in a forum thread.

I remember it distinctly though being said in the topic being discussed.

I think all men and women need to do is stop thinking in stereotypes and just communicate with each other. It's not that difficult

The older I get, the more I understand these phrases

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please. "

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?"

I wasn't thinking that way, I was thinking more about finding a Willing partner. Men can also be sexually abused too though you know. If a man said no and a woman continued, that is also about consent too.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true."

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

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By *uliette500Woman
50 weeks ago

Hull

"Women absolutely can, if your hot enough

Go find a really tall good looking gym guy with tattoos, ask him how many women he’s fucked in a club toilet without an emotional connection

Not great news for unattractive men wanting a hole to fuck.

If any man refers to any woman as 'a hole to fuck' he doesn't deserve any attention regardless of how he looks.

We don't need emotions but we do want respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?"

You know men can be assault too right? Consent is a 2 way street

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
50 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Yes Don I can.

Emotion = Feelings Vampire = Parasitic Creature that lives by sucking the fucking life out of others - (substitute emotions/feelings for blood )

You could put it in easier terms and just say someone is 'NEEDY' or DEMANDING and fails to see they are sapping your energy and leaving you depleted.

A bit like syphoning petrol from your mates car.... sommat fills up cos it empties sommat else.

You are welcome Don.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?"

Talking about bodily autonomy as gatekeeping sounds wrong to me. You know that women are perfectly within their rights to decide the terms under which they have sex and men are within their rights to refuse those terms, don't you.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable "

I'm astounded that you really believe that.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
50 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?"

Perhaps more simple than you need to be.

You haven't answered my question at all.

You have made a statement which implies something else entirely.

Why do you call women the gatekeepers of sex ?

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Gatekeepers to sex? Really? I don't get that at all.

Nothing negative about it at all. succinct and to the point.

Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

Not my words a Dr in psychology's words.

I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

I'm astounded that you really believe that."

I’m astounded you don’t realise that.

Put your address on fab status and that your willing to suck/fuck anyone that turns up, you’ll have a queue outside your house

It’s completely fine to admit you can get sex when ever but you have high standards. There’s no need to lie about the reality that most men are down to fuck pretty much always, it’s not a negative thing about you

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
50 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable "

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

The emotional intelligence levels on display in this thread is fairly boggling

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By *ad NannaWoman
50 weeks ago

East London

Some can. Plenty of women go to clubs, have sex with strangers then go home.

For others, it's not their thing.

Personally, I don't like feeling like I'm something for a man to get his rocks off over.

That kind of sex doesn't fulfil me.

I can have the sex I like with like-minded men without the relationship side.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
50 weeks ago

Paradise, Herts

"The emotional intelligence levels on display in this thread is fairly boggling "

I actually went to comment but then thought I really can’t be arsed. I think I’m done with this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

Absolutely, no one’s throwing shade, just pointing out reality

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

Absolutely, no one’s throwing shade, just pointing out reality "

And I can confirm that as a bi guy. Blowjob every night if I want one

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

Op.. Fuck n go is it?

Without chatting, safety no way op.

Never invite strangers to my door without a fab swingers safety check...

Social meet for coffee is not fuck n go either. Half what I see look nothing like profile photos. Why the need to put up 20 year ago photos.

Knowing what people can be like on fab swingers SAFETY COMES FIRST

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
50 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

Absolutely, no one’s throwing shade, just pointing out reality "

Then how are women the gatekeepers when everyone is capable of having preferences and saying no?

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By *ad NannaWoman
50 weeks ago

East London

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!"

Validating what?

I like a bit of a mind-meld, because the sex is better, and that's what I'm here for.

If I wanted to be used as a fuck toy for horny men I'd make a career out of it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
50 weeks ago

East Sussex

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

Absolutely, no one’s throwing shade, just pointing out reality

Then how are women the gatekeepers when everyone is capable of having preferences and saying no?"

By the look of it because*some* men say they are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
50 weeks ago

Hence, it appears at first glance, most of the single women require some sort of validating of themselves first before they give our the goods!

Give up the goods? Is that really how you see it?

Well, since women are the gatekeepers to sex, yeah. The that's the point of the entire thread!

Explain how women are the 'gatekeepers' to sex, from your own perspective.

Please.

If they weren't gatekeepers then a criminal act would have taken place. in summary - consent!

simple enough?

Perhaps more simple than you need to be.

You haven't answered my question at all.

You have made a statement which implies something else entirely.

Why do you call women the gatekeepers of sex ? "

I don't a psychologist did. I just agreed with their analysis in the context and when it comes to sex....women don't give it out unless there's something in it for them and in the case of single women (couples here don't apply for the umpteenth time) it's usually the prelude to a relationship for which men are the gatekeepers of.

that'll be the men being all emotional the women here seem to observe bit!

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"I have to disagree. That makes it sound like women can get sex whenever they want. That really is not true.

I think you mean you can’t get sex whenever you want, from someone you want to have sex with

You could absolutely have sex whenever you want, just not with people you find desirable

To be fair, if the men complaining they can't get any would just drop their standards and accept any unwanted noodle for the sake of getting off, they could have sex whenever too

Absolutely, no one’s throwing shade, just pointing out reality

Then how are women the gatekeepers when everyone is capable of having preferences and saying no?"

Because men are putting yes out there far more than woman, so it’s women having the final yes/no, effectively making them the gatekeeper

Although I think the analogy is overly simplified to apply to a general population

Let’s be honest, I’m sure no one is gatekeeping sex with professional athletes or musicians or other celebs

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By *on bonesMan
50 weeks ago

Northampton

Yes Don I can.

Emotion = Feelings Vampire = Parasitic Creature that lives by sucking the fucking life out of others - (substitute emotions/feelings for blood )

You could put it in easier terms and just say someone is 'NEEDY' or DEMANDING and fails to see they are sapping your energy and leaving you depleted.

A bit like syphoning petrol from your mates car.... sommat fills up cos it empties sommat else.

You are welcome Don. "
thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

This could be the most depressing thread Ive ever read here. Lack of self awareness, respect for individual autonomy and emotional intelligence is astounding.

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By (user no longer on site)
50 weeks ago

"Can't women just fuck recreationally?"

Yes. Yes they can and do.