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"Another good post gone way off topic...." I could have sworn there was more replies... | |||
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"The subject matter had become 'illegal' so it gets removed!" A bit " Big Brother"y but....maybe the original post can continue now. | |||
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"The subject matter had become 'illegal' so it gets removed!" Ah fair enough | |||
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"Kids sitting in priest’s laps Smoking in lifts and planes Animals wearing human clothes (hideous) on TV " Pre 9/11 (I think I would have been 10 at the time) I was allowed to see the inside of a planes cockpit whilst we where flying back from holiday. Absolutely no way would a child get anywhere near one now. | |||
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"Kids sitting in priest’s laps Smoking in lifts and planes Animals wearing human clothes (hideous) on TV Pre 9/11 (I think I would have been 10 at the time) I was allowed to see the inside of a plane cockpit whilst we were flying back from holiday. Absolutely no way would a child get anywhere near one now." Not even on Santa’s lap | |||
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"Harasement of the gay and bisexual community which was definately rife in my youth and thankfully became less so. Although l, unfortunately, it is currently becoming more common again as we see a rise in popularism and I think some carry over from the anti-transgender rhetoric being promited by some of our politicians and mainstream media organisations." “Anti-transgender rhetoric being promoted … by mainstream media”? Which media are you referring to? My observation would have been that overall, MSM (real media) are strong supporters of inclusivity, rights, respect etc | |||
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"Whilst in my mums garage I discovered a bunch of old nuts and zoo magazines from my younger years. Had a wee flip through some of them and there where a few things I was surprised at that would absolutely not fly now. One thing in particular stood out to me was a rate her arse feature. Now this wasn't guys sending in photos of their girlfriends posing for the camera. It was guys taking photos of womens arse on the street, in the shops at the bus stop etc. Things that would place you on a register. Struck me as crazy it was treated as banter. Made me think of all the things in the past that were OK but we look at them with disdain now." Zoo, Nuts etc was out of step with the times even then. A fairly short-lived anomaly. “New lad” fad, deliberately out of step, trying to be outrageous. | |||
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"We did this summer! Plane was delayed for an hour so all the kids were offered the chance to go and chat to the pilots and look at the dashboard (is it called that in a plane?! ) My son sat in the co-pilot’s chair! " “Tell me joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison”? | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly " Yep, they just don’t put it in print anymore. But the attitudes are still rife. | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly " Of course it hasn’t been completely stamped out. Who suggested that it was a thing of the past? But OP points out that some of what was condoned then would not be condoned now. | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly Yep, they just don’t put it in print anymore. But the attitudes are still rife. " Yep it's more covert now. | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly Of course it hasn’t been completely stamped out. Who suggested that it was a thing of the past? But OP points out that some of what was condoned then would not be condoned now. " In my experience it's just under cover now. | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly Of course it hasn’t been completely stamped out. Who suggested that it was a thing of the past? But OP points out that some of what was condoned then would not be condoned now. In my experience it's just under cover now. " … which is a step in the right direction, if people realise that certain behaviours or attitudes are no longer acceptable. If you are honestly suggesting that zero progress has been made, then I disagree | |||
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"Harasement of the gay and bisexual community which was definately rife in my youth and thankfully became less so. Although l, unfortunately, it is currently becoming more common again as we see a rise in popularism and I think some carry over from the anti-transgender rhetoric being promited by some of our politicians and mainstream media organisations. “Anti-transgender rhetoric being promoted … by mainstream media”? Which media are you referring to? My observation would have been that overall, MSM (real media) are strong supporters of inclusivity, rights, respect etc " Actually, a lot of the media is populated with radfems and transphobes and they get away with printing false information in the guise of opinion, mail, guardian, times are three that stand out. In the sporting world the anti trans movement is rife with discrimination being based on scientific theories/assumptions, fake concerns of womens 'safey', and fair play. Transphobia and homophobia is being fuelled by right wing religious extremists around the world. | |||
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"Whilst in my mums garage I discovered a bunch of old nuts and zoo magazines from my younger years. Had a wee flip through some of them and there where a few things I was surprised at that would absolutely not fly now. One thing in particular stood out to me was a rate her arse feature. Now this wasn't guys sending in photos of their girlfriends posing for the camera. It was guys taking photos of womens arse on the street, in the shops at the bus stop etc. Things that would place you on a register. Struck me as crazy it was treated as banter. Made me think of all the things in the past that were OK but we look at them with disdain now." I know what you’re saying and undercover cheeky bum photos (are wrong) re rating them in a magazine etc I guess only a woman can say from experience but from having a daughter modern life hasn’t improved and seems worse for women now than 20 years ago ? | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly Of course it hasn’t been completely stamped out. Who suggested that it was a thing of the past? But OP points out that some of what was condoned then would not be condoned now. In my experience it's just under cover now. … which is a step in the right direction, if people realise that certain behaviours or attitudes are no longer acceptable. If you are honestly suggesting that zero progress has been made, then I disagree " Not suggesting that zero progress has been made, just not much. People at least feel able to call it out now | |||
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"Blatant disrespect for women and objectifying them being treated as banter a thing of the past? I don't think things are much different now than they were then sadly Of course it hasn’t been completely stamped out. Who suggested that it was a thing of the past? But OP points out that some of what was condoned then would not be condoned now. In my experience it's just under cover now. … which is a step in the right direction, if people realise that certain behaviours or attitudes are no longer acceptable. If you are honestly suggesting that zero progress has been made, then I disagree Not suggesting that zero progress has been made, just not much. People at least feel able to call it out now" Fair enough. When you said “it’s just under cover now” that sounded very much as though you were saying nothing had changed. | |||
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"Harasement of the gay and bisexual community which was definately rife in my youth and thankfully became less so. Although l, unfortunately, it is currently becoming more common again as we see a rise in popularism and I think some carry over from the anti-transgender rhetoric being promited by some of our politicians and mainstream media organisations. “Anti-transgender rhetoric being promoted … by mainstream media”? Which media are you referring to? My observation would have been that overall, MSM (real media) are strong supporters of inclusivity, rights, respect etc Actually, a lot of the media is populated with radfems and transphobes and they get away with printing false information in the guise of opinion, mail, guardian, times are three that stand out. In the sporting world the anti trans movement is rife with discrimination being based on scientific theories/assumptions, fake concerns of womens 'safey', and fair play. Transphobia and homophobia is being fuelled by right wing religious extremists around the world." I really struggle with forms of discrimination being described as “phobias”. Prejudice, lack of tolerance etc are not all grounded in fear. As for sports, describing them as “anti trans movement” is unfair. | |||
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"We did this summer! Plane was delayed for an hour so all the kids were offered the chance to go and chat to the pilots and look at the dashboard (is it called that in a plane?! ) My son sat in the co-pilot’s chair! “Tell me joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison”? " No…but I have seen a grown man naked and I do like to hang round the gymnasium | |||
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