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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Has this ever happened to you?

It didn't turn out to be the aftercare you had discussed prior. Or you simply didn't get the aftercare.

What do you do when you're in a drop and the aftercare isn't there?

Will a friend check in or even do the aftercare part? Like having an aftercare buddy?

Yesterday I heard a story where someone lacked the aftercare they needed and it genuinely upset me to the point of tears.

It's not unique to subdrop, there's Dom drops too. And then there's drops from being on the meet itself and the rush of it all. It doesn't even have to involve BDSM or any kinks or fetishes.

Would you give aftercare to someone that was clearly struggling because they weren't getting it when they needed it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard. "

I think it would be good if there was a network for this, even in small circles. Some people talk the talk but their actions don't match their words.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

What does it entail? Genuinely interested as I don’t have a scooby. Is it a BDSM thing?

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard.

I think it would be good if there was a network for this, even in small circles. Some people talk the talk but their actions don't match their words."

In.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard.

I think it would be good if there was a network for this, even in small circles. Some people talk the talk but their actions don't match their words."

Definitely in.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else


"What does it entail? Genuinely interested as I don’t have a scooby. Is it a BDSM thing?"

Usually yes.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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Yes.

After talking about how important it was, comments on the forums from them etc, all of that, my aftercare was zero. Repeatedly. Not even a little "that was wonderful" message.

It would upset me. I thought I was really needy and demanding in expecting someone to message me. To check in, just once. To not go silent. A myriad of things.

I told a friend I was feeling a bit low after one date. Kind of embarrassed about it but their reaction was wonderful. They kind of took over the aftercare without me asking. I didn't realise what they were doing at first. Little things showing they cared, no fanfare, no reason to do it really.

I'm a lot more clued up now about what does and doesn't work for me. I've experienced people who do it without asking. No discussions. I wouldn't dream of certain things, dynamics etc without it now.

If someone doesn't want to do it? That's absolutely fine. No one has to do anything with anyone. I'd either keep things at a level where I don't experience it or accept we're not compatible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What does it entail? Genuinely interested as I don’t have a scooby. Is it a BDSM thing?"

It can be from a BDSM session but isn't exclusive to it.

Some people can be rather sensitive to drop and it can happen after intense meets or scenarios etc.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"What does it entail? Genuinely interested as I don’t have a scooby. Is it a BDSM thing?

It can be from a BDSM session but isn't exclusive to it.

Some people can be rather sensitive to drop and it can happen after intense meets or scenarios etc. "

Ah ok. Thankyou . I shall watch the thread with interest

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

South Side.

Before I give a Tantra massage, we have a discussion around consent and boundaries. This agreement includes aftercare, either in the massage room, or later, with a walk, cup of tea and chat. I like to check in with people after a few days, as lots can come up after a Tantra session.

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By *oft_SensualTV/TS
over a year ago

Yorkshire

This isn't confined to just BDSM- people take what they want, often from those least in a position to have it taken, without discussion, safeguards, or actual thought/feeling. They consume an experience, not a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has this ever happened to you?

It didn't turn out to be the aftercare you had discussed prior. Or you simply didn't get the aftercare.

What do you do when you're in a drop and the aftercare isn't there?

Will a friend check in or even do the aftercare part? Like having an aftercare buddy?

Yesterday I heard a story where someone lacked the aftercare they needed and it genuinely upset me to the point of tears.

It's not unique to subdrop, there's Dom drops too. And then there's drops from being on the meet itself and the rush of it all. It doesn't even have to involve BDSM or any kinks or fetishes.

Would you give aftercare to someone that was clearly struggling because they weren't getting it when they needed it?

"

From experience aftercare is needed pretty much instantly after our scene has finished. We always factor it in to any meet.

In terms of connection between a sub and dom it is often then most powerful aspect of play.

I’m not sure how an aftercare buddy would work but it feels like it’s something that’s needed between the active play partners not a third party.

Dom drop does exist, but soothing your sub after a meet is a great way to recharge yourself as well as take care of their needs in their state of vulnerability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sure, I could be a person to talk to, I’m quite good at being there for someone, I suppose that’s the caring and attentive side of me.

Could I ask someone to be there for me if I thought a person missed that I might have needed some attention afterwards? I’m not sure, I’d probably deal with it on my own, that’s kinda what I’ve been conditioned to do.

The biggest distance between 2 people is misscomunication. Add a 3rd person in the mix, and that can add more.

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands

Somebody sent me this link regarding aftercare if it interests any of you. It's very handy.

https://badgirlsbible.com/bdsm-aftercare

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah this I'm weird about. I get "icky" if guys bombard me afterwards.

A simple, "that was fun, we should do it again" will suffice thanks. Or a we shouldn't do this again as you were shit is also ok.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Usually my idea of aftercare for me looks like them telling me I did well and then fucking off so I can sort myself out in peace to be honest.

But, I do know that it goes both ways, and I can cope with that cuddles and forehead kisses part when necessary.

In terms of scenes and BDSM bits, none of my partners would consider leaving without checking I'm okay first. But occasionally I get that massive emotional drop from general experience, and I'm lucky to have wonderful people that when I need it will sit on the phone with me for hours until I can rebalance myself when they happen

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

Wherever I lay my hat

Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So confused

These clearly aren't my circles.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

We’re very conscious that if we’ve invited a woman to share an intimate experience with us then her aftercare is our responsibility. And it can be as simple as good conversation and laughter after sex.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life. "

Oh pre-care! I like that. Yes. I'm awful for it, if I'm not convinced someone really wants me, it just falls flat and then I kind of... start fizzling things out. Interest for me doesn't have to be constant, people have lives. But if it's not like they really want me, I don't want them in the slightest.

Maybe I am needy and demanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Somebody sent me this link regarding aftercare if it interests any of you. It's very handy.

https://badgirlsbible.com/bdsm-aftercare"

I’m Reluctant to read anything. Because what works for one, won’t be working for another. So when someone reads that and thinks it’s gospel, yet I think it’s bullshit, it adds confusion. I like talking and discovering what I think works for us both. Normally that takes time, more than a five minute read of an article.

But, it might what people are into and how they what do I know, I don’t read?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"So confused

These clearly aren't my circles."

Mine neither. It’s interesting though.

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands


"So confused

These clearly aren't my circles.

Mine neither. It’s interesting though. "

Read that link I sent. It's an interesting read Nora

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life. "

That's also a really valid point.

Before and after, or it just seems very cold and transactional. Like we're some sort of sex/kink dispenser.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

That's also a really valid point.

Before and after, or it just seems very cold and transactional. Like we're some sort of sex/kink dispenser."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them."

Same. I’d do it anyway. I know nothing about the BDSM stuff though. Maybe that’s different.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"So confused

These clearly aren't my circles.

Mine neither. It’s interesting though.

Read that link I sent. It's an interesting read Nora"

Thanks. Makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them.

Same. I’d do it anyway. I know nothing about the BDSM stuff though. Maybe that’s different. "

I think it may have been coined in BDSM where things might get a bit intense, but it can definitely apply to regular meets as well where you're coming off a massive high back to real life.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them.

Same. I’d do it anyway. I know nothing about the BDSM stuff though. Maybe that’s different.

I think it may have been coined in BDSM where things might get a bit intense, but it can definitely apply to regular meets as well where you're coming off a massive high back to real life."

I suppose. But that’s life really. We all have a bit of a downer after something really exciting.

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

Wherever I lay my hat


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

Oh pre-care! I like that. Yes. I'm awful for it, if I'm not convinced someone really wants me, it just falls flat and then I kind of... start fizzling things out. Interest for me doesn't have to be constant, people have lives. But if it's not like they really want me, I don't want them in the slightest.

Maybe I am needy and demanding. "

I am exactly the same - and I'm owning the fact that I'm needy and demanding! As MR says on this thread, it can feel transactional otherwise and I hate feeling like nothing more than a walking fleshlight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them.

Same. I’d do it anyway. I know nothing about the BDSM stuff though. Maybe that’s different.

I think it may have been coined in BDSM where things might get a bit intense, but it can definitely apply to regular meets as well where you're coming off a massive high back to real life.

I suppose. But that’s life really. We all have a bit of a downer after something really exciting. "

That's true, maybe it's more of a case of having someone there for you to show they care. I know I get giddy again when they message me after rather than if they didn't.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"It's not something I ever really thought about as it's something I just like to do, whether it's a cuddle and chat just after or a message telling them what a great time I had.

I think if I don't get at least a message, I can feel a bit down as it can feel like they've already forgotten about me and a continuation of the messaging shows I wasn't just a shag to them.

Same. I’d do it anyway. I know nothing about the BDSM stuff though. Maybe that’s different.

I think it may have been coined in BDSM where things might get a bit intense, but it can definitely apply to regular meets as well where you're coming off a massive high back to real life.

I suppose. But that’s life really. We all have a bit of a downer after something really exciting.

That's true, maybe it's more of a case of having someone there for you to show they care. I know I get giddy again when they message me after rather than if they didn't."

Oh yeah definitely. If they didn’t that would be it for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

That's also a really valid point.

Before and after, or it just seems very cold and transactional. Like we're some sort of sex/kink dispenser."

Definitely agree pree and after are both important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over 20 years ago when i was very into BDSM from low level to extreme there definitely was alot of " after-care" involved on the scene between partner's and circle's.

The last few years it seems to have become very cold. Alot of people who do not understand the damage it can cause a person or if a person is using it as a self harming tool. Pockets of fab forum's can be a good place to reach out. Or individual BDSM sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life. "

That makes a lot of sense. That feeling of desirability can really help set the mood so if for whatever reason it isn't there, whatever happens next might not feel as earth-shattering as it could. I can't imagine that desirability never being there though

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester

Are you talking about the endorphin drop from being high in the bdsm sense to a low of mood post session?. The one thing i find clicky in terms of bdsm is the use of weird jargon. Or do you mean you just are not getting post session attention to your wounds and pain points. Using the term "drop" is hard to get me head around. Bdsm is no different than the feeling people get from going from frenetic to relaxed, from high speed ride to normal. Some adjust better, when you talk of this " drop" is it the mood change

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"Are you talking about the endorphin drop from being high in the bdsm sense to a low of mood post session?. The one thing i find clicky in terms of bdsm is the use of weird jargon. Or do you mean you just are not getting post session attention to your wounds and pain points. Using the term "drop" is hard to get me head around. Bdsm is no different than the feeling people get from going from frenetic to relaxed, from high speed ride to normal. Some adjust better, when you talk of this " drop" is it the mood change "

...Why is drop clicky?

Aftercare is something that needs to be considered in more intense situations, which is why it's widely known in the BDSM community, and the fact that its becoming more of a consideration outside of those situations is a wonderful thing.

It was coined as sub-drop back in the day because it was usually the bottom of an S&M scene that would have that huge endorphin drop, it has since been widely acknowledged that it also affects the tops, and eventually that it extends to less physically demanding scenes where emotions run high.

I don't understand why drop is being called jargon or clicky. It is an emotional drop that is being addressed. Would emotional comedown be considered as junkies gatekeeping that feeling with clicky jargon too? What term would be acceptable?

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester


"Are you talking about the endorphin drop from being high in the bdsm sense to a low of mood post session?. The one thing i find clicky in terms of bdsm is the use of weird jargon. Or do you mean you just are not getting post session attention to your wounds and pain points. Using the term "drop" is hard to get me head around. Bdsm is no different than the feeling people get from going from frenetic to relaxed, from high speed ride to normal. Some adjust better, when you talk of this " drop" is it the mood change

...Why is drop clicky?

Aftercare is something that needs to be considered in more intense situations, which is why it's widely known in the BDSM community, and the fact that its becoming more of a consideration outside of those situations is a wonderful thing.

It was coined as sub-drop back in the day because it was usually the bottom of an S&M scene that would have that huge endorphin drop, it has since been widely acknowledged that it also affects the tops, and eventually that it extends to less physically demanding scenes where emotions run high.

I don't understand why drop is being called jargon or clicky. It is an emotional drop that is being addressed. Would emotional comedown be considered as junkies gatekeeping that feeling with clicky jargon too? What term would be acceptable?"

it's not clicky per SE. The reason I think it's an issue is that aftercare in itself doesn't always cover this. Sometimes people need help afterwords and I understand. It's just some people think aftercare is just about cleaning. It wasn't really that big when I first got into kink or at least not as well known. Some subs were lucky if they got a Kleenex to sort out there mascara before being booted out of the dungeon back then.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"it's not clicky per SE. The reason I think it's an issue is that aftercare in itself doesn't always cover this. Sometimes people need help afterwords and I understand. It's just some people think aftercare is just about cleaning. It wasn't really that big when I first got into kink or at least not as well known. Some subs were lucky if they got a Kleenex to sort out there mascara before being booted out of the dungeon back then. "

.... I have never met anyone who confuses aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay.

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester


"it's not clicky per SE. The reason I think it's an issue is that aftercare in itself doesn't always cover this. Sometimes people need help afterwords and I understand. It's just some people think aftercare is just about cleaning. It wasn't really that big when I first got into kink or at least not as well known. Some subs were lucky if they got a Kleenex to sort out there mascara before being booted out of the dungeon back then.

.... I have never met anyone who confuses aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay."

you ain't been to the 1990s Sydney sex scene

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"you ain't been to the 1990s Sydney sex scene "

Well, no. I'd have been 13 at most. Which, if your age is right made you 18 at most.

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester


"you ain't been to the 1990s Sydney sex scene

Well, no. I'd have been 13 at most. Which, if your age is right made you 18 at most."

about that, to be fair went in the 2000s but what a eye opening place and watched a fair amounts of films from the 90s. I don't mean it in a condescending way, the world if bdsm has got better a bit like the police there are still a lot of wankers and not nice people but less than before

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"about that, to be fair went in the 2000s but what a eye opening place and watched a fair amounts of films from the 90s. I don't mean it in a condescending way, the world if bdsm has got better a bit like the police there are still a lot of wankers and not nice people but less than before "

... There's a lot of wankers and not nice people everywhere. In certain areas they're able to be more blatant about it. But they're everywhere.

And I still don't understand why drop would be a cliquey term.

Or how anyone with more than 2 braincells to rub together would confuse aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester


"about that, to be fair went in the 2000s but what a eye opening place and watched a fair amounts of films from the 90s. I don't mean it in a condescending way, the world if bdsm has got better a bit like the police there are still a lot of wankers and not nice people but less than before

... There's a lot of wankers and not nice people everywhere. In certain areas they're able to be more blatant about it. But they're everywhere.

And I still don't understand why drop would be a cliquey term.

Or how anyone with more than 2 braincells to rub together would confuse aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay."

it's a specific term I have not heard used outside of bdsm maybe it's me. I find the scene clicky. It is at least sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it's not clicky per SE. The reason I think it's an issue is that aftercare in itself doesn't always cover this. Sometimes people need help afterwords and I understand. It's just some people think aftercare is just about cleaning. It wasn't really that big when I first got into kink or at least not as well known. Some subs were lucky if they got a Kleenex to sort out there mascara before being booted out of the dungeon back then.

.... I have never met anyone who confuses aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay."

Hahaha this.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else


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Aftercare is something that needs to be considered in more intense situations, which is why it's widely known in the BDSM community, and the fact that its becoming more of a consideration outside of those situations is a wonderful thing.

"

Agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has been a very interesting and educational read. I generally don't meet without prior communication and always check in after etc. I've assumed this was the norm for meets where there was communication prior.

The exception is couples. Unless there was one way conversation before I usually won't then engage in one way convo after but will still message/check in.

But reading here and seeing some people want to be left alone after makes me think this is also a discussion to be had before.

Another school day for me.

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

somerset

i tell guys before hand if they are they type to want to get dressed quick and fuck off then im not interested ...aftercare should be for all whom swing or kink .... weathers its 10 mins of having a chat or cuddle to staying a few hours and making sure all is ok .... nobody should be rushing off ... unless stated before hand .... i hate that rushed feeling of sex on a plate thats not swinging to me or any other of my lady friends

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"about that, to be fair went in the 2000s but what a eye opening place and watched a fair amounts of films from the 90s. I don't mean it in a condescending way, the world if bdsm has got better a bit like the police there are still a lot of wankers and not nice people but less than before

... There's a lot of wankers and not nice people everywhere. In certain areas they're able to be more blatant about it. But they're everywhere.

And I still don't understand why drop would be a cliquey term.

Or how anyone with more than 2 braincells to rub together would confuse aftercare with cleaning up.

But okay. it's a specific term I have not heard used outside of bdsm maybe it's me. I find the scene clicky. It is at least sometimes "

Of course the scene is cliquey. It's one of the places the arseholes can be real arseholes, and people not being clear and open about things can lead to serious injury. So vetting and not just allowing any random person off the street to dive in without any idea of what they're capable of is a basic safety issue.

But that's why there are so very many munches and socials and events designed specifically to give newbies a chance to see and understand and network.

There is absolutely nothing cliquey about the word drop, I'm pretty sure every adult human will have heard it at some point used in a sentence.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I've had aftercare go wrong. But more in it was a delayed drop that hit me like a tonne of bricks and we'd not accounted for it happening. I guess it's something that can happen and we now acknowledge that.

Aftercare to me at least isn't necessarily a BDSM thing. I have a very vanilla mate, who needs aftercare after seeing someone. That's just her, she needs the messages after to reassure herself it's all good. So to me it is something that some people require others not. It's all good, just requires good communication.

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By *tyoursecretserviceMan
over a year ago

J11 M5 Cheltenham

Usually plan enough time in a scene to begin the aftercare long before we end.

The level and intensity of the scene should really dictate this in the 1st inst.

Returning to a good head space and calm for both of us is paramount. I love the intimacy of coming down as much as the game. Showering together brushing her hair meaningful closeness.

Why. Would you walk away after anyone has given you so much trust obedience and submission.

Call me anytime x

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Isn't just about having a basic level of respect for the person you've just been intimate with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard. "

Is “drop” a dip in your feelings after a bdsm session or vanilla meet? I’ve never heard that expression before.

What aftercare is best?

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard.

Is “drop” a dip in your feelings after a bdsm session or vanilla meet? I’ve never heard that expression before.

What aftercare is best?"

don't ask or it might get cliky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

Oh pre-care! I like that. Yes. I'm awful for it, if I'm not convinced someone really wants me, it just falls flat and then I kind of... start fizzling things out. Interest for me doesn't have to be constant, people have lives. But if it's not like they really want me, I don't want them in the slightest.

Maybe I am needy and demanding. "

I love that. I love a little reminder that I am a dessert. Otherwise I lose interest and face away. Hands down, I am needy and demanding. So be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has happened to me and I don't really have anyone that can check in on me like that. I just dealt with it as best I could until I was out of the drop.

I would absolutely do this for someone though if they needed it. I've been there and it can be extremely hard.

Is “drop” a dip in your feelings after a bdsm session or vanilla meet? I’ve never heard that expression before.

What aftercare is best? don't ask or it might get cliky "

I think it would be a bit shitty not to be in touch after sex. Even if you don’t want to meet again, you want the person to know that you respect her and appreciate the intimacy. Especially if it’s BDSM because there’s an awful lot of trust and vulnerability there.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

I have all of my needs in place at my home for my drop and he has all of his in place at the scene, for his bdsm aftercare. I would never do a scene without organising that first. Subspace is a occurance not a destination and I would be a poor Domme, if I didn't put the person, who has willingly given me their mind and body to play with, needs first.

As for anyones aftercare, I emotionally couldn't give anyone that at the drop of a hat, scenes take weeks to plan, my energy and mindset needs time to fill, before I can do a scene. As a single parent who works full time, it's incredibly difficult to spare that sort of energy without notice

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By *tyoursecretserviceMan
over a year ago

J11 M5 Cheltenham


"I have all of my needs in place at my home for my drop and he has all of his in place at the scene, for his bdsm aftercare. I would never do a scene without organising that first. Subspace is a occurance not a destination and I would be a poor Domme, if I didn't put the person, who has willingly given me their mind and body to play with, needs first.

As for anyones aftercare, I emotionally couldn't give anyone that at the drop of a hat, scenes take weeks to plan, my energy and mindset needs time to fill, before I can do a scene. As a single parent who works full time, it's incredibly difficult to spare that sort of energy without notice "

I think a lot of people think scenes are just about. Turn up collar cuff and beat the hell out of your play mate quick dirty fuck and leave. 1st meet is always about discovering limitation on a personal basis with each other. Like you say it's all in the pre planning. Shouldn't go in all guns blazing and no control. X

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By *ecretescapeCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life. "

Totally get this. I cant stand a guy making an "appointment" to meet me and then radio silence till the night before or actual day. Just makes me feel like I'm not worth any effort.

Aftercare is SOOOOO important to me. I give from the heart, my sub side is very sweet and will do everything to please but then needs to be reminded how special she is in the first few days after. Just a couple of lovely messages. There is nothing worse than having a really intense connection and feeling on a high and then 2 days later feeling rock bottom and that it meant nothing.

I can do vanilla fab meets without aftercare (although still love a couple of messages), but with kink or D/s play I feel much more vulnerable after.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've had aftercare go wrong. But more in it was a delayed drop that hit me like a tonne of bricks and we'd not accounted for it happening. I guess it's something that can happen and we now acknowledge that.

Aftercare to me at least isn't necessarily a BDSM thing. I have a very vanilla mate, who needs aftercare after seeing someone. That's just her, she needs the messages after to reassure herself it's all good. So to me it is something that some people require others not. It's all good, just requires good communication. "

I have a delayed drop. I used to think my drop was my hidden illness until April this year when I had a big drop and didn't see it coming. Being in a relationship for two years meant I hadn't experienced the drop, which explains why I hadn't made the link. I'd had a day of freedom after being stuck home, was a gorgeous day and involved a BDSM scene. Next day my drop was pretty drastic. I dropped from the BDSM scene but the overall high of the day as well. And it was a pretty big high. But friends spotted it and did aftercare in the form of talking. Now it's more important to me and I have make sure I get a call later on the next day. I can at least say what I need.

But if that call doesn't come it's a big deal. It's quite apparent now how much it can be quite detrimental to people when in a drop and the aftercare doesn't happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day."

I hope you asked them to iron tomorrows clothes on the way out.

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day."

We're all different. I don't mind if you want to kick me out so you can get a coupe of hours kip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

I hope you asked them to iron tomorrows clothes on the way out."

Had no idea men were willing to do menial tasks either. I've ballsed it up entirely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

We're all different. I don't mind if you want to kick me out so you can get a coupe of hours kip"

I mean, I'd offer an uber.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day."

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more.

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

We're all different. I don't mind if you want to kick me out so you can get a coupe of hours kip

I mean, I'd offer an uber."

If it's on your account then perfect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more. "

Do you reckon that thus is something that if it is required, the person should communicate it prior rather than being upset at it not being offered after? I'm talking about typical sex here, but I really wouldn't have thought people needed attention afterwards and I feel bad about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

Oh pre-care! I like that. Yes. I'm awful for it, if I'm not convinced someone really wants me, it just falls flat and then I kind of... start fizzling things out. Interest for me doesn't have to be constant, people have lives. But if it's not like they really want me, I don't want them in the slightest.

Maybe I am needy and demanding. "

There's nothing needy about needing to feel desired to feel desirable

I'd say it's quite natural really.

I'm a big fan of the long build up and tease before a play date to stir up the energy between us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more.

Do you reckon that thus is something that if it is required, the person should communicate it prior rather than being upset at it not being offered after? I'm talking about typical sex here, but I really wouldn't have thought people needed attention afterwards and I feel bad about it."

I'd like to say its on both people to cover that aspect first even if the word aftercare isn't used.

But it's not for me to judge, that's just a personal view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more.

Do you reckon that thus is something that if it is required, the person should communicate it prior rather than being upset at it not being offered after? I'm talking about typical sex here, but I really wouldn't have thought people needed attention afterwards and I feel bad about it."

I think HC comment was good about not feeling like a walking fleshlight.

And some guys don't actually like feeling like a human dildo.

But for others it totally works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more.

Do you reckon that thus is something that if it is required, the person should communicate it prior rather than being upset at it not being offered after? I'm talking about typical sex here, but I really wouldn't have thought people needed attention afterwards and I feel bad about it.

I think HC comment was good about not feeling like a walking fleshlight.

And some guys don't actually like feeling like a human dildo.

But for others it totally works."

Accidentally deleted last response. Basically said that I've never discussed what happens after sex with someone prior to sex, and it seems like something I should have discussed. Not sure why it never crossed my mind in all these years, I do now feel like I've used a lot of men and treated them poorly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would it not depend on your relationship with that person? If you're meeting for no strings sex surely expecting them to give you aftercare is a little unreasonable no?

I get why you might feel a bit shitty if there was a spark but otherwise I wouldn't think someone was awful for not giving aftercare.

I can't have meaningless sex anyway, so I would expect some kind of attention to be there afterwards since there will be some sort of connection. But if I was into casual sex I wouldn't be bothered about the aftercare part unless he just finished, upped and left without saying a word. I think that would be cold. But a quick that was fun, goodbye kind of thing would be enough I think.

I definitely think if it's important to you then it needs to be something you discuss beforehand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has this ever happened to you?

It didn't turn out to be the aftercare you had discussed prior. Or you simply didn't get the aftercare.

What do you do when you're in a drop and the aftercare isn't there?

"

I work through the care I need for myself as best I can. These are my more general regulating methods for all kinds of feeling out of sorts (not just sub/dom/post sex drops) when I'm alone

Self massage and hugging to reconnect with my body, let myself ugly cry as much as I need (it usually passes fast), breathwork to release tension and regulate myself, stream of consciousness journaling to release emotions and anxiety, or a smoke in the bath if I need to relax and meditate on a problem. Call or voice note a good friend to feel heard. Snuggle the cat. Hot sweet tea. Chocolate. A good dark chocolate helps everything.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Is there really any such thing as meaningless sex though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there really any such thing as meaningless sex though?"

Yup.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is there really any such thing as meaningless sex though?"

I think so. Sex where you're just doing it for the sake of a shag and your own pleasure. I would say that's pretty meaningless.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Away for Christmas

Bdsm aftercare is extremely important. And those that are part of that scene should really understand, it's just as much a part of the before and during. It should be discussed prior.

We all have different kinds of aftercare needs. For some that's to be left alone. If you are involved with somebody under those circumstances and dynamic then it should have some sort of discussion prior. What kind of aftercare do you need, do they need and how do they compare, do they conflict? If they do conflict, can each person handle the aftercare not being met?

If your after care is to be left alone, consider that the person you are with may need something more intimate, or vice versa. Excluding aftercare is extremely selfish.

It still has its part in "vanilla" but overall it has less of an impact if not done (always exceptions etc etc). Less of an overall issue to bypass it, but important to consider none the less.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Are they dim Doms are they stupid subs

Are there pillow princesses, are there delusional Doms .

Reality comes in many forms.

You know when it’s right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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The biggest distance between 2 people is misscomunication. "

Love this. *Mentally files for future use*

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Is there really any such thing as meaningless sex though?

I think so. Sex where you're just doing it for the sake of a shag and your own pleasure. I would say that's pretty meaningless. "

The act itself can be meaningless to either party, but human beings are still human beings and should be treated with care. So even if it’s entirely meaningless to you and you were using the other person for your own pleasure, treating the other person as if it was meaningful to them sets the minimum standard for respectful no-strings sex.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

If it's a complete stranger in a club, and it's clear they have been left hanging by their top/dom, it would be wise to work out pretty fast if they have indeed been left "hanging" (or if the Top/Dom has just popped to the loo or gone to get a drink for the Sub).

I'd sit near them and keep a side-eye on them, but protocol would see me not speak to them.

However, if a few mins pass and the Sub is showing signs of being distraught or in distress, I would gently say, "Sorry to intrude. I noticed your Top/Dom has wandered off. Are they ok?"

If they reply, "No, they've gone/left" then I'd say, "I'm sorry to hear that. May I help you with your sub drop ? I'm happy to sit here with you, or get you anything you need."

When I Top with a person who I've never played with before, Sub Drop would haven been discussed during my initial assessment of them for play. I want to know how much they know and also frame what they might expect to experience. also to reassure them that I'll be there afterwards to help them.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"Strangely 'pre-care' is much more important to me. I need to feel that someone desires me and is champing at the bit to meet me. If I don't get that I can totally lose interest. It's always great to get messages after a meet telling you how great it was but this is far less important to me as just get on with whatever is next in my life.

Oh pre-care! I like that. Yes. I'm awful for it, if I'm not convinced someone really wants me, it just falls flat and then I kind of... start fizzling things out. Interest for me doesn't have to be constant, people have lives. But if it's not like they really want me, I don't want them in the slightest.

Maybe I am needy and demanding.

There's nothing needy about needing to feel desired to feel desirable

I'd say it's quite natural really.

I'm a big fan of the long build up and tease before a play date to stir up the energy between us."

Needing to feel desired to feel desirable is a perfect way of putting it. I think that feeling of being desired is so intrinsically linked with my sex drive I can't find myself aroused without it. I like when that energy flows before and after, even if at a different pace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had no idea that this was an expectation for just typical sex. Now I feel like a complete dick asking people to leave as I had an early start the next day.

It's not an expectation as such. Some people like and need this and others function just fine parting ways easily and cleanly. There's no right or wrong. It's just about finding out which type you or your prospective partners are, be it a one off or more.

Do you reckon that thus is something that if it is required, the person should communicate it prior rather than being upset at it not being offered after? I'm talking about typical sex here, but I really wouldn't have thought people needed attention afterwards and I feel bad about it."

I think if someone knows that they need this they really should speak up.

On a normal meet just sex sort of thing I'm absolutely fine and usually prefer to be left alone after ha.

In an intense BDSM scene I have dropped emotionally but I don't always, it has come out of nowhere before and I've been left in a hard place for a bit but it wasnt anyone's fault really. I certainly didn't blame them.

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By *mf123Man
over a year ago

with one foot out the door

Not had the need to give in a long long long time

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By *edsthewordMan
over a year ago

West Midlands


"On a normal meet just sex sort of thing I'm absolutely fine and usually prefer to be left alone after ha.

In an intense BDSM scene I have dropped emotionally but I don't always, it has come out of nowhere before and I've been left in a hard place for a bit but it wasnt anyone's fault really. I certainly didn't blame them.

"

This has all been an interesting read and confirmed my own feelings. I find play meets fine and just like to check the lady got home safe and chat if they want to. But after say a party night with my wife I get a little drop the day or two after.

With bdsm or kinkier meets I don’t tend to get Dom drop but have had a sub who lives far away go quiet after play for a few days and it bothered me wondering if she was ok. But she did live with people who could support her too, and soon bounced back.

Everyone has there preferred way of dealing with it and that’s why I like getting to know play mates.

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