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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " No. Hairist | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " Do you really want people to think you're stupid? | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad." exactly | |||
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"As far as I am aware, being ginger is not classed as a separate distinct ethnic minority" I was beginning to think I'd lost the plot! | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " and if a person say i don't like that hair colour its there preference ..... and there's no need to ever be rude about it to no one ..... we cant all like same things in life ... but you have to treat everyone with respect . maybe shallow as hair can be changed ... not like skin. | |||
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"No, it's prejudiced! Racism is prejudice based on someones ethnicity, beliefs etc. In any case prejudism is not a good thing " | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " what kind of preudice are we talking about ? being pulled up by the police every time they are out driving because they are ginger ? being stopped and searched on the street by the police because of there hair colour refused entry into certain bars and clubs can you be more specific ? | |||
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" How is this stupid?? Seriously tell me?? You call a ginger some names and then call a black person some names. Then tell me what the difference is" Do I really need to define racism for you? Honestly?!! | |||
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"i just had a ginger baby... its took some getting used to. i am slowly coming to terms with it " this may help if you can't cope... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DVHUEjnuU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF_DVHUEjnuU | |||
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"As far as I am aware, being ginger is not classed as a separate distinct ethnic minority I was beginning to think I'd lost the plot! " What about the positive discrimination blondes get? All people have preferences to one type over another, be they tall, short, fat, thin, whatever. But nobody should be discriminated against because of race, colour or creed! | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? and if a person say i don't like that hair colour its there preference ..... and there's no need to ever be rude about it to no one ..... we cant all like same things in life ... but you have to treat everyone with respect . maybe shallow as hair can be changed ... not like skin." and i am not prejudice about no one ..... skin hair fat thin no one .. my world is a world that we all live in. And the mix of everyone makes it just perfect. I just hate nasty things in life , That hurt others. | |||
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"Ginger is not a race therefore it's not racist. It is however bigoted and unpleasant. " There you go op! | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys " free bobble hats ? | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad." I kind of got slatered the other day on a thread when i kind of said such like | |||
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"Does this mean all the blonde gags and innuendos makes people racist towards me? Learn something new everyday here " Well you are starting off from the blonde baseline so I guess every day's a schoolday! (sorry Jules, was too easy and I can resist everything but temptation! ) | |||
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"Does this mean all the blonde gags and innuendos makes people racist towards me? Learn something new everyday here Well you are starting off from the blonde baseline so I guess every day's a schoolday! (sorry Jules, was too easy and I can resist everything but temptation! )" Sniff, sniff...I'm off to dye my hair *** ginger | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys free bobble hats ?" Full on balaclava! If I can't be a redhead why should anyone else be allowed! | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys " no matter of what her lovely hair color is,This is your lovely child whos perfect ......... and no one can take that away. You look up others with same lovely hair color you will see some fab people in life . | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys no matter of what her lovely hair color is,This is your lovely child whos perfect ......... and no one can take that away. You look up others with same lovely hair color you will see some fab people in life ." perfect from the forhead down... only kidding, i love my ginger baby and i love her hair but i feel sorry for her cos i make a lot of jokes about it, and it wont stop haha | |||
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"I'd like a free bobble hat too. Will it be embroidered with nuts?" | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys no matter of what her lovely hair color is,This is your lovely child whos perfect ......... and no one can take that away. You look up others with same lovely hair color you will see some fab people in life . perfect from the forhead down... only kidding, i love my ginger baby and i love her hair but i feel sorry for her cos i make a lot of jokes about it, and it wont stop haha" So when they say "a face only a mother could love" it isn't true??? Or it is true for the face, but the hair... Meh. | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys no matter of what her lovely hair color is,This is your lovely child whos perfect ......... and no one can take that away. You look up others with same lovely hair color you will see some fab people in life . perfect from the forhead down... only kidding, i love my ginger baby and i love her hair but i feel sorry for her cos i make a lot of jokes about it, and it wont stop haha" lisen she is perfect how she is xxxx and if thay ever poke fun look on think what a sad person .... sad .. if i had a lovely baby with hair like that i would love it ... your very lucky .... you make the most of her... me myn are all flying the nest here i am in bits . xx | |||
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"i think there should be more help and support for parents to ginger babys free bobble hats ? Full on balaclava! If I can't be a redhead why should anyone else be allowed! " Can't we pretend you are A redhead? I love a vamp | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad." you have a point..... but the word "racist" is wrong in this context bigoted... yep patronising..... sure racist.... no | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? what kind of preudice are we talking about ? being pulled up by the police every time they are out driving because they are ginger ? being stopped and searched on the street by the police because of there hair colour refused entry into certain bars and clubs can you be more specific ?" Thank you | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad. you have a point..... but the word "racist" is wrong in this context bigoted... yep patronising..... sure racist.... no" Thanks Fabio, saved me the effort there. How many more of these are we gonna get? | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair? | |||
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"The colour of ur hair isn't a race tho " It feels like it is sometimes, trying to get time in the bathroom to colour it | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair?" Are you getting sceptical about why people post ruggers? Shame on you! We all have pure motives. | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair? Are you getting sceptical about why people post ruggers? Shame on you! We all have pure motives. " I reckon I am the most cynical and sceptical out of the lot of you, I just don't let it onto the forum often | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " Yes this type of racism's totally fine. Opposed to killing black or asian people because even the black and asians hate the the swine ginger. ps If the ginger has big tits I can look over it. | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair? Are you getting sceptical about why people post ruggers? Shame on you! We all have pure motives. I reckon I am the most cynical and sceptical out of the lot of you, I just don't let it onto the forum often " I am shocked and scandalized! I had you pegged as a sweet and trusting soul. Like me. | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Yes this type of racism's totally fine. Opposed to killing black or asian people because even the black and asians hate the the swine ginger. ps If the ginger has big tits I can look over it." them. | |||
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"I was surprised people thought "Muslims" were a race, but genuinely dumbfounded anyone would classify being ginger as one! Lord help us! " Said by a true ginger! | |||
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"What's wrong with the colour ginger i think its a great coluor can look really sexy in the right style " You mean shaved? | |||
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"I was surprised people thought "Muslims" were a race, but genuinely dumbfounded anyone would classify being ginger as one! Lord help us! " Do not understand that either as religion is not specific to any race. Being Ginger is not a race, therefore no, it is not racist. | |||
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"What's wrong with the colour ginger i think its a great coluor can look really sexy in the right style You mean shaved?" lol | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " Probably more rustist than racist. | |||
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"And they say we have one of the best educational systems in the world.... " The twat in charge of it doesn't think so (and he's ginger) | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair?" Not at all, I don't have any problem getting women, it's just an argument me and my friend have quite regularly | |||
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"Reminds me of a sketch in The Catherine Tate Show lol save the gingers lol" That was both a tremendously funny and very, very clever sketch | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? Are you a ginger and did someone say no thanks because they don't fancy someone with ginger hair? Not at all, I don't have any problem getting women, it's just an argument me and my friend have quite regularly " Ok will answer the question then....my answer is...no. | |||
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"prince Harry is GINGER .. " Like his father | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " No.. to try and equate folk being 'prejudiced' (your perception btw) with racism is wrong quite frankly.. sure its not about rejection, this 'prejudice'..? | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad. you have a point..... but the word "racist" is wrong in this context bigoted... yep patronising..... sure racist.... no Thanks Fabio, saved me the effort there. I am truly confuddled that someone might think being ginger is a race. I dye mine black. Does that mean I am black? How many more of these are we gonna get? " | |||
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"Reminds me of a sketch in The Catherine Tate Show lol save the gingers lol That was both a tremendously funny and very, very clever sketch " | |||
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"One suspects the OP is a Ginger whinger, duracell, carrot top, ranga, one who's nits are having a bonfire, Ang Mo ( Red Devil in chinese), copperhead, ginger nut, red-headed stepchild, who no doubt also has a quantity of freckles akin to sunbathing under a colander! Taking the piss out of a Ginge is no worse than taking the piss out of someone who's Blonde for example ..'Dumb Blonde?'. Personally, when I see a ginger person, I like to ask them: "Do you like reading?", they usually ask why, or say yes, to which I reply "Have you read pubes?"...always makes me chuckle. DISCLAIMER: This is not a personal attack on the OP or anyone who is, or who has had, the misfortune of associating with Ginger people. It is merely a post upon which I exercised my necessity to make a witty remark at the incredulity of the original post. " I don't think your witty , I think your a sad individual who takes pleasure from taking the piss out of people who are different than you. And I bet you haven't used that read pubes joke on anyone you don't know , unless of course they are smaller than you. | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow!" My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. | |||
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"Just when i thought things couldnt get anymore ridiculous on here...i read this thread! " | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/02/13 23:14:22]" What a charming person you are. Not only are you saying I'm a bad parent but you are calling a child a whinger. | |||
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"I like ginges. I could eat a whole one to myself. " Challenge? | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow! My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. " That's terrible. I feel sorry for your child, not for being called names, because that's what kids do, but more the fact they feel unable to confide in their own parents about such a serious issue as bullying. As parents ourselves, we are happy that our kids can talk to us about anything and any problem and we have instilled in them that we are always there for them no matter what problems they have and that we will always resolve them. Saying that, thankfully we don't have ginger kids, so guess nothing compares to that level of trauma. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/02/13 23:14:22] What a charming person you are. Not only are you saying I'm a bad parent but you are calling a child a whinger. " Their reposted message is a little bit nicer. | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow! My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. That's terrible. I feel sorry for your child, not for being called names, because that's what kids do, but more the fact they feel unable to confide in their own parents about such a serious issue as bullying. As parents ourselves, we are happy that our kids can talk to us about anything and any problem and we have instilled in them that we are always there for them no matter what problems they have and that we will always resolve them. Saying that, thankfully we don't have ginger kids, so guess nothing compares to that level of trauma." OMG i should not laugh as i have a ginger baby lol but thankfully i go to a support group | |||
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"Reminds me of a sketch in The Catherine Tate Show lol save the gingers lol That was both a tremendously funny and very, very clever sketch " Gingers for justice! | |||
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".............. In any case prejudism is not a good thing " It's a good word though. I wish I'd thought of it. | |||
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"I like ginges. I could eat a whole one to myself. Challenge?" You're on | |||
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"I like ginges. I could eat a whole one to myself. Challenge? You're on " | |||
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"prince Harry is GINGER .. Like his father " hahahaha .... im so glad i read this thread ..... anyone for Crabbies ?? ... | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/02/13 23:14:22] What a charming person you are. Not only are you saying I'm a bad parent but you are calling a child a whinger. Their reposted message is a little bit nicer. " Your lucky you didn't see the completely unedited version, I typed, deleted, typed, deleted for 15 minutes, still came across as harsh, so reworded in the spirit of it's a thread that someone has taken alittle too personally. I mean, the lovely lass thats just had a ginger baby on here can laugh at herself, and at gingers without offence. We thouight it was just just gingers that had sensitive skin, not their parents too. | |||
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"I like ginges. I could eat a whole one to myself. Challenge? You're on " Bring tommy sauce | |||
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"prince Harry is GINGER .. Like his father hahahaha .... im so glad i read this thread ..... anyone for Crabbies ?? ... " His father might well be redheaded. Diana was very popular. | |||
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"i always done the ginger jokes i guess its only fair i get a ginger baby lol not all bad gonna apply for dla loooooool" See if you can get in touch with L'oreal too. You may get a sponsorship...because your 'both worth it' | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow! My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. That's terrible. I feel sorry for your child, not for being called names, because that's what kids do, but more the fact they feel unable to confide in their own parents about such a serious issue as bullying. As parents ourselves, we are happy that our kids can talk to us about anything and any problem and we have instilled in them that we are always there for them no matter what problems they have and that we will always resolve them. Saying that, thankfully we don't have ginger kids, so guess nothing compares to that level of trauma." You have absolutely no idea when they confided in me or the relationship I have with my children but I'm glad you are such a good parent and your children have such wonderful role models. | |||
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"I like ginges. I could eat a whole one to myself. Challenge? You're on Bring tommy sauce" Im red enough! | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow! My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. That's terrible. I feel sorry for your child, not for being called names, because that's what kids do, but more the fact they feel unable to confide in their own parents about such a serious issue as bullying. As parents ourselves, we are happy that our kids can talk to us about anything and any problem and we have instilled in them that we are always there for them no matter what problems they have and that we will always resolve them. Saying that, thankfully we don't have ginger kids, so guess nothing compares to that level of trauma. You have absolutely no idea when they confided in me or the relationship I have with my children but I'm glad you are such a good parent and your children have such wonderful role models. " That is correct, I don't. I merely based my response on your use of the word 'relentless', which suggests, by definition, that the abuse was unrelenting, thus going on for a considerable time, if not ongoing. Threads about gingers, fatties, skinnies, blondes, tall people, short people etc, happen all the time on these forums, so if you think you are not going to like what you see on a particular thread, perhaps best you don't _iew it. I say this not as a 'snide remark', but as advice, for if you cannot accept others opinions or jokes on matters without getting irate due to personal similarities, then you may not always like what you read and may get upset at further similar posts which are inevitable on an open forum. Anyway, we both SINCERELY wish you and your family peace and contentment without prejudice or malice. | |||
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"Do people really get that bent out of shape over someone making a disparaging remark about the colour of their hair?? wow! My child was relentlessly bullied about the colour of their hair to the point that they didn't want to attend school anymore so I'm a little more than bent out if shape. That's terrible. I feel sorry for your child, not for being called names, because that's what kids do, but more the fact they feel unable to confide in their own parents about such a serious issue as bullying. As parents ourselves, we are happy that our kids can talk to us about anything and any problem and we have instilled in them that we are always there for them no matter what problems they have and that we will always resolve them. Saying that, thankfully we don't have ginger kids, so guess nothing compares to that level of trauma. You have absolutely no idea when they confided in me or the relationship I have with my children but I'm glad you are such a good parent and your children have such wonderful role models. That is correct, I don't. I merely based my response on your use of the word 'relentless', which suggests, by definition, that the abuse was unrelenting, thus going on for a considerable time, if not ongoing. Threads about gingers, fatties, skinnies, blondes, tall people, short people etc, happen all the time on these forums, so if you think you are not going to like what you see on a particular thread, perhaps best you don't _iew it. I say this not as a 'snide remark', but as advice, for if you cannot accept others opinions or jokes on matters without getting irate due to personal similarities, then you may not always like what you read and may get upset at further similar posts which are inevitable on an open forum. Anyway, we both SINCERELY wish you and your family peace and contentment without prejudice or malice. " Just because it was relentless it doesn't mean I wasn't aware of it or it wasn't being dealt with. I have a sense of humour and some of the ginger jokes on this thread I found funny , such as Wishys Harry potter joke. I thought the original post was ludicrous as taking the piss out of gingers is not racist and it is laughable to think it is. I just thought that everyone was ganging up on the OP and that your remarks were a little OTT. I felt somewhat justified in these thoughts when I read your now deleted post. I'm sure the OP can fight their own battles though and maybe I got a little hot headed, it's a trait with gingers don't you know. Just cos I have a pale skin it doesn't mean it isn't a thick skin. xx | |||
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"Cool. Now, who would like to come and fuck a red head? " love to, but too old.... | |||
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"And if any gingers on here shave their pubes, could you please bag them up and send them to me as I need a gap in my barbed wire fence repairing " You'd be better of making a wig for yourselve and seeing how we feel for a change | |||
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"Right...would you class it as being racist to be prejudice against ginger haired people? " Gingers are not a race sweetie they are fair haired white people who often get bullied at school. Race though well they are quick on their toes as all people who are picked on are....except the really fat ones that is. | |||
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"And if any gingers on here shave their pubes, could you please bag them up and send them to me as I need a gap in my barbed wire fence repairing You'd be better of making a wig for yourselve and seeing how we feel for a change " lol, no thanks...I got 2 freckles last summer....tortured enough | |||
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"And if any gingers on here shave their pubes, could you please bag them up and send them to me as I need a gap in my barbed wire fence repairing You'd be better of making a wig for yourselve and seeing how we feel for a change lol, no thanks...I got 2 freckles last summer....tortured enough " False alarm, they're liver spots .....Phew! | |||
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"I AM CRAZY RED LOOK AT ALL MY FRENDS AND ALL THE FAB FUCKS IVE HAD OFF THIS SITE FAB] SO STICK YOUR COMMENTS AND RACISTS CHANTS WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE I'll leave the comments next to you then, because as a ginge, I bet you avoid the sun like the plague. " Or I'll post my comments next to your 'caps lock' key. you'll never see them. | |||
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"I must read posts differently to most others.. I know what was typed in the OP, but I just took it that he was asking why it is not OK to take the piss out of race, but it is OK to take the piss out of Gingers! I know that other hair colours are also the butt of jokes, but there are some pretty nasty things said about people with ginger hair. At school, you never heard "Fuck off you blond cunt". "You stupid brown haired minger" But it is OK to shout "Fuck off you ginger twat"! While it may not be actual racism, it is akin to racism in that it is a minority who are ridiculed by something they shouldn’t have to change! However, the majority of jokes are about someone. There is usually always a person, race, creed or culture that bears the brunt of the joke. Whether it is played out through animals or green men from space, that joke has its origins in prejudice of some kind. So what do we do? Carry on regardless! A world without jokes would be a sad place indeed, perhaps those who take offence at something that is not aimed at them should get a thicker skin! (And it kinda gives lie to the “I never label/judge people and then they take on a label to show indignation!) By the way, Naughty Kitty.. Welcome back to posting hunny, missed you on here although still had the pleasure elsewhere. Give your Ginger a hug from us xxx " Perhaps - but you may have heard big ears, lanky, short arse, fatso, speccy, spotty. All of which are offensive about somebody's physical characteristics - but none of which can be compared with racism. You can take the piss out of race - people do constantly - stuck up Brits? tight fisted Scots? dodgy Nigerians? Having a joke about cultural differences and stereotypes is not the same as racial discrimination. This was quite a fun discussion at the beginning. | |||
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" Perhaps - but you may have heard big ears, lanky, short arse, fatso, speccy, spotty. All of which are offensive about somebody's physical characteristics - but none of which can be compared with racism. You can take the piss out of race - people do constantly - stuck up Brits? tight fisted Scots? dodgy Nigerians? Having a joke about cultural differences and stereotypes is not the same as racial discrimination. This was quite a fun discussion at the beginning." I think you are wrong! Surely if it is wrong to take the piss out of Race or even certain racial types, then why is it OK to take the piss out of people with physical attributes that they have no control over? Who says racial jibes are more hurtful than personal? In fact, comments aimed at a race are less hurtful unless you deam to take that on yourself! The personal jibe is given to you and can be devastating! | |||
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" Perhaps - but you may have heard big ears, lanky, short arse, fatso, speccy, spotty. All of which are offensive about somebody's physical characteristics - but none of which can be compared with racism. You can take the piss out of race - people do constantly - stuck up Brits? tight fisted Scots? dodgy Nigerians? Having a joke about cultural differences and stereotypes is not the same as racial discrimination. This was quite a fun discussion at the beginning. I think you are wrong! Surely if it is wrong to take the piss out of Race or even certain racial types, then why is it OK to take the piss out of people with physical attributes that they have no control over? Who says racial jibes are more hurtful than personal? In fact, comments aimed at a race are less hurtful unless you deam to take that on yourself! The personal jibe is given to you and can be devastating! " 'Taking the piss' is not the same as racism. There is a huge difference between a good natured jest at somebody's accent, or how they look from a belief that people of a certain race are inferior - worlds apart and I'd have thought glaringly obvious. | |||
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" Perhaps - but you may have heard big ears, lanky, short arse, fatso, speccy, spotty. All of which are offensive about somebody's physical characteristics - but none of which can be compared with racism. You can take the piss out of race - people do constantly - stuck up Brits? tight fisted Scots? dodgy Nigerians? Having a joke about cultural differences and stereotypes is not the same as racial discrimination. This was quite a fun discussion at the beginning. I think you are wrong! Surely if it is wrong to take the piss out of Race or even certain racial types, then why is it OK to take the piss out of people with physical attributes that they have no control over? Who says racial jibes are more hurtful than personal? In fact, comments aimed at a race are less hurtful unless you deam to take that on yourself! The personal jibe is given to you and can be devastating! 'Taking the piss' is not the same as racism. There is a huge difference between a good natured jest at somebody's accent, or how they look from a belief that people of a certain race are inferior - worlds apart and I'd have thought glaringly obvious." there are people that take things to the extreme on anything..some jokes can be funny but cruel thats a fact yes..others are really aimed at making someone feel inferior in a hateful manner...its not about people learning to laugh at themselves or with others..its aimed to laugh AT I see lots of 'if they cant take a joke they should..' talk...some of us know there are limits to certain aspects towards what is a joke and what isnt..or what stems from a joke and leads onto something continued. Not everyone has the ability to counteract, or be confrontational that is why most peiople suffer in silence...regardless of their race shape haircolour etc etc, howevevr I'm sure that doesnt really matter to the 'jokers' who subject people to it on a daily basis.. | |||
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"there are people that take things to the extreme on anything..some jokes can be funny but cruel thats a fact yes..others are really aimed at making someone feel inferior in a hateful manner...its not about people learning to laugh at themselves or with others..its aimed to laugh AT I see lots of 'if they cant take a joke they should..' talk...some of us know there are limits to certain aspects towards what is a joke and what isnt..or what stems from a joke and leads onto something continued. Not everyone has the ability to counteract, or be confrontational that is why most peiople suffer in silence...regardless of their race shape haircolour etc etc, howevevr I'm sure that doesnt really matter to the 'jokers' who subject people to it on a daily basis.." I agree - it's only a joke if the other person finds it funny too. Although I'll accept there are plenty who *think* they are joking, but are ignorant to the hurt they cause - but that only makes them marginally less repulsive than those who set out to be hurtful. | |||
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" 'Taking the piss' is not the same as racism. There is a huge difference between a good natured jest at somebody's accent, or how they look from a belief that people of a certain race are inferior - worlds apart and I'd have thought glaringly obvious." So, taking the piss out of a different race is OK? Lets see you do that in front of a member of our police service! Your definition, or the one you seem to be using in this thread, is the one where everyone is having a jolly jape. That is NOT what I am talking about. Ask any kid at school who is bullied what others are doing to them. They will say they are taking the piss!! Taking the piss is making others feel inferior and whether it is a personal attack or an attack on a whole race, someone is getting hurt! Or are you saying there is a bigger hurt to a race because there are more people? I was taken the piss out of at school and it was very hurtful indeed! I had no "Race" to offset the hurt onto, I couldn't say "Well, they don't mean me, they are talking generally". It was me! Only me! OK, I learnt to cope after discovering in my rage one day that bullies only bully the weak. One hefty punch out in frustration and it was fixed. Not everyone has that in them. However, if it is OK to make jokes about Gingers, the lanky, the sticky out ears and so on, then why is it not OK to make jokes about others? As it happens, I have learnt that it is just a joke, not a slight on any one person. Most of all it is funny! I have heard the same joke used with different characters and it still works. And if you really don’t believe other races make jokes about us? Wake up and smell the coffee… | |||
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"Is it not true for all jokes that there has to be somebody who laughs at the expense of another? Now if the one at whose expense the joke is... find it funny, genuinely funny...then that is ok. I do wonder sometimes though whether people feel oblliged to join in as they have really no choice in the matter. If they dont laugh they either get teased and moqued more... or are being described as not having a sense of humour. Dont get me wrong - I LOVE a giggle, banter, laughter and I dont mind when (some) jokes are at my expense - there are other "jokes" I dont find funny and I tell people that I get tired of them. They tend to be samey and boring jokes anyway. My line is... if in doubt check it out (subtley) if the jokee is ok about being joked about. In terms of red heads - I cannot understand why they are being made fun of so much... there are some very attractive red heads, both male and female! " redhead herm_phrodite BBC says is this aimed at me? | |||
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"Is it not true for all jokes that there has to be somebody who laughs at the expense of another? Now if the one at whose expense the joke is... find it funny, genuinely funny...then that is ok. I do wonder sometimes though whether people feel oblliged to join in as they have really no choice in the matter. If they dont laugh they either get teased and moqued more... or are being described as not having a sense of humour. Dont get me wrong - I LOVE a giggle, banter, laughter and I dont mind when (some) jokes are at my expense - there are other "jokes" I dont find funny and I tell people that I get tired of them. They tend to be samey and boring jokes anyway. My line is... if in doubt check it out (subtley) if the jokee is ok about being joked about. In terms of red heads - I cannot understand why they are being made fun of so much... there are some very attractive red heads, both male and female! redhead herm_phrodite BBC says is this aimed at me? " Did not know about the "herm_phrodite" bit | |||
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"Is it not true for all jokes that there has to be somebody who laughs at the expense of another? Now if the one at whose expense the joke is... find it funny, genuinely funny...then that is ok. I do wonder sometimes though whether people feel oblliged to join in as they have really no choice in the matter. If they dont laugh they either get teased and moqued more... or are being described as not having a sense of humour. Dont get me wrong - I LOVE a giggle, banter, laughter and I dont mind when (some) jokes are at my expense - there are other "jokes" I dont find funny and I tell people that I get tired of them. They tend to be samey and boring jokes anyway. My line is... if in doubt check it out (subtley) if the jokee is ok about being joked about. In terms of red heads - I cannot understand why they are being made fun of so much... there are some very attractive red heads, both male and female! redhead herm_phrodite BBC says is this aimed at me? Did not know about the "herm_phrodite" bit" I lied..I just want more action...come lick my fieryflange | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad." . I think you have to place the relative prejudices in some historical context. I cant recall anyone having been denied a job because of their hair colour or made to sit at the back of a bus..I'm now trying to think of exceptions! | |||
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"See I think it's bang out of order that people can just take the piss out of red haired people quite freely and nobody bats an eye lid. And if anybody says anything about blacks or Asians suddenly people are getting offended. I think it's just as bad. . I think you have to place the relative prejudices in some historical context. I cant recall anyone having been denied a job because of their hair colour or made to sit at the back of a bus..I'm now trying to think of exceptions!" it does happen I'm afraid, what the OP question is , is that is it racist which it isnt.. the current media is pretty much to blame..even moreso from the english..unfortunately I believe its spread to scotland now and people have become ashamed of being born ginger(its cool to dye ur hair ginger if u arent tho lol) like has been said before..there are extremes on how ppl use this derogating humour..and I'd find it hard how u could explain to a child why it would be acceptable than racial based comments/jokes.. | |||
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"Racism isn't acceptable. Bullying isn't acceptable. Ginger is not a race so it isn't racism. I think this is the first point Paddy made in answer to the OP. Where did this get lost? " I was gonna blow my own trumpet and say I gave the simplest easiest answer..however my mouths just not liking spunk at the moment lol | |||
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"Racism isn't acceptable. Bullying isn't acceptable. Ginger is not a race so it isn't racism. I think this is the first point Paddy made in answer to the OP. Where did this get lost? I was gonna blow my own trumpet and say I gave the simplest easiest answer..however my mouths just not liking spunk at the moment lol" I'm happy to blow your trumpet, Paddy - just this once. | |||
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"...I'd find it hard how u could explain to a child why it would be acceptable than racial based comments/jokes.. " ..you sit wee Morag down and tell her straight that unless she dyes her hair she's gonna have a pretty shit life and people will rip the piss out of her until she learns how to crush gonads with one kick. While you're at it, you could also apologise for inflicting ginger hair on her but tell that you'll still love her... if she dyes it. | |||
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"...I'd find it hard how u could explain to a child why it would be acceptable than racial based comments/jokes.. ..you sit wee Morag down and tell her straight that unless she dyes her hair she's gonna have a pretty shit life and people will rip the piss out of her until she learns how to crush gonads with one kick. While you're at it, you could also apologise for inflicting ginger hair on her but tell that you'll still love her... if she dyes it. " morag or senga...am confused which I should call her..altho I've always liked Paddina | |||
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"I must read posts differently to most others.. I know what was typed in the OP, but I just took it that he was asking why it is not OK to take the piss out of race, but it is OK to take the piss out of Gingers! I know that other hair colours are also the butt of jokes, but there are some pretty nasty things said about people with ginger hair. At school, you never heard "Fuck off you blond cunt". "You stupid brown haired minger" But it is OK to shout "Fuck off you ginger twat"! While it may not be actual racism, it is akin to racism in that it is a minority who are ridiculed by something they shouldn’t have to change! However, the majority of jokes are about someone. There is usually always a person, race, creed or culture that bears the brunt of the joke. Whether it is played out through animals or green men from space, that joke has its origins in prejudice of some kind. So what do we do? Carry on regardless! A world without jokes would be a sad place indeed, perhaps those who take offence at something that is not aimed at them should get a thicker skin! (And it kinda gives lie to the “I never label/judge people and then they take on a label to show indignation!) By the way, Naughty Kitty.. Welcome back to posting hunny, missed you on here although still had the pleasure elsewhere. Give your Ginger a hug from us xxx " erm.. how about blonde bimbo? all those blonde jokes.. everyoen has something people can take the piss out of.. even the very good looking are thought of as being simple.. i can appriciate a good fat joke | |||
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