FabSwingers.com forum: TV licences - who else doesn't pay?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I don't have a license and don't watch any live tv nor anything on the bbc channels. Less a protest and more i wasn't watching enough to justify the hefty price.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

I don’t buy a tv licence but then, I don’t have a tv or watch any tv programs on any other devices.

I do listen to the wireless but as far as I’m aware you do not require a licence for that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it."

I see they updated it to include YouTube! Been after clarity on that for a while.

In addition:

Do I need a TV Licence to watch Youtube?

If you are watching a TV programme live on YouTube, you need to be covered by a TV Licence.

A licence is not required to view user generated content, clips and videos on YouTube. This includes live streamed content that is not part of a television broadcast. Or being broadcast at the same time by other means.

Lucky that. I don't watch livestream TV programmes on YouTube.

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By *ottsGuy24Man
over a year ago

Beeston

No haven't do so for years now. Never watched it.

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By *ainbows_can_be_metal_tooCouple
over a year ago

Darlington

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it."

I thought that the whole point of the TV licence was so the BBC didn't have to have advertising? So you pay for it whenever you watch any BBC channel on any screen. If it really does cover all the streaming services including YouTube then all of those shouldn't be additional cost or contain ads.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

I prefer to watch what I want to watch and when I want to watch it. So no TV licence for years now.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it.

Only if its live/scheduled tv.

It essentially comes down to do you watch live/scheduled broadcasting regardless of its source, or any channel or service owned by bbc at all? Then you need the license.

If you watch on demand stuff - the majority of streaming services and box sets, then you don't. There may be a few other fine details in there for exceptions etc but that is the general gist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work for the BBC I am coming for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it."

Yes, me too. I paid up front for 3months..i do use all the above exceot amazon video.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it.

Only if its live/scheduled tv.

It essentially comes down to do you watch live/scheduled broadcasting regardless of its source, or any channel or service owned by bbc at all? Then you need the license.

If you watch on demand stuff - the majority of streaming services and box sets, then you don't. There may be a few other fine details in there for exceptions etc but that is the general gist."

It is any channel not just bbc for watching live, live streaming etc.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

I do pay mine. Partly because we watch live TV sometimes and partly as a political stance because the BBC is pretty amazing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BBC News is shite, but I support BBC programming so yes I pay. If you don't pay your licence, and you are viewing anything under the license - they will find you!

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it.

Only if its live/scheduled tv.

It essentially comes down to do you watch live/scheduled broadcasting regardless of its source, or any channel or service owned by bbc at all? Then you need the license.

If you watch on demand stuff - the majority of streaming services and box sets, then you don't. There may be a few other fine details in there for exceptions etc but that is the general gist.

It is any channel not just bbc for watching live, live streaming etc. "

That's what I said

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By *ainbows_can_be_metal_tooCouple
over a year ago

Darlington

"BBC News is shite, but I support BBC programming so yes I pay. If you don't pay your licence, and you are viewing anything under the license - they will find you!

There is definitely a massive jump in quality from other channels to BBC programming SFX wise, Dr who being being the most prominent.

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By *hunky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Your "no licence" licence is valid for 2 years, then need to renew it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve got one, I’ve always had one.

There are bigger things in life to rebel against.

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By *ake_or_deathMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I do pay mine. Partly because we watch live TV sometimes and partly as a political stance because the BBC is pretty amazing.

Same. It has its faults but it's an amazing institution overall. There's a great video of Russell T Davies comparing the BBC and HBO and showing that HBO only offers a couple of hours of new programmes per week whereas the BBC has several channels, the iPlayer, loads of radio channels, etc. It's a good thing that it exists overall - like the NHS, I might not use it all the time, but I'm glad it's there and I'm happy to pay for it.

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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago

moon base zero

The people who don't pay but still watch will be the 1st to complain about adverts on BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am baffled how a 1927 bbc charter made by queen Victoria became Royal charter. To then include non bbc situations. Youtube is not bbc.

Bbc

Ofcom

Secretary of state make the rules etc and fee.

Until 2027 then they say scrap it. It will go private and end up paying more.

Live program.. News, strictly, sport. Bbc have nothing else live.

How the heck has streaming got in.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I have a license but agree with most that it's a rip off. Most BBC programs this includes the news is totally rubbish. I rarely even watch programs on the beeb

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By *enuineguy42Man
over a year ago

worcester

I thubj its wrong that we pay for subscriptions for sky, virgin, netflix etc and are still expected to pay for a TV license. The UK government rob us blind

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By *iss_Juicy79Woman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Not paid mine for 16 years I don't have an aerial let alone have one plugged in

I get letters from TV licence but has never had our names so they ain't getting a penny

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

No.

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

"I work for the BBC I am coming for you"

This is how sex scandals start.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I prefer to watch what I want to watch and when I want to watch it. So no TV licence for years now. "

Sounds like you should have a license

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
over a year ago

West Suffolk

Not had a licence for years. Don’t watch live tv so don’t need one.

I also think the whole funding model is outdated. It started when pretty much all there was was the beeb. They should move either to advertising (they already advertise their own stuff) or a subscription model. Or some form of hybrid. Lower the licence to £20 a year and get the rest from ads.

They should also dump a lot of the stuff that costs a fortune to produce that hardly anyone tunes in to, such as local radio.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"I work for the BBC I am coming for you"

it isn't the BBC who do the coming for.

I doubt if even TV Licensing, who send the threatening letters, can be bothered to put their money where their moth is.

'Will you be in on the 6th of November?'

'Yes, but you never come when you threaten to'. I waste whole days waiting around to tell them to go away because I am not letting them in.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I listen to Radio 4 alot and prefer BBC4 and would pay my license just for that.

I'd like poorer people to pay less, with a sliding scale of charges.

Definitely a much better system than the likes of the USA television landscape

. The BBC should never be a biased mouthpiece for the government though, with hidden pressure to do so, or else funding gets cut further

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

It beggars belief that they haven't come up with the idea of mobile phone licences or internet licences.

It's only because they are too dim to look on here for good ideas from visionaries like me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you go into iPlayer and see where your money is going you will realise even though bbc news is a shit show and biased af the bbc is still a good place for culture and representation of who we are as a nation which is what it’s always set out to be, from the days of Monty python and the old grey whistle test on bbc2 to now, the world has changed, there are fascinating documentaries and shows worth digging out you just have to find them, the license covers you watching it on any platform which is where the YouTube comes in, it’s relating to bbc content viewed anywhere through anything, just pay it you tight fucks before all that we are is gone ….. I said what I said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont watch any tv. It annoys me. Hence no tv licence. I dont even own a tv

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

"I prefer to watch what I want to watch and when I want to watch it. So no TV licence for years now.

Sounds like you should have a license "

Maybe I worded it wrong or you misunderstood what I wanted to say. I never watch anything being broadcasted live, so no, I very much don't need TV licence. And I can live without Strictly, Dr Who and whatever is being shown on BBC. I prefer my PC games than any TV shows anyway.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Not had a licence for years. Don’t watch live tv so don’t need one.

They should also dump a lot of the stuff that costs a fortune to produce that hardly anyone tunes in to, such as local radio. "

License isn’t just needed if you watch live tv

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I prefer to watch what I want to watch and when I want to watch it. So no TV licence for years now.

Sounds like you should have a license

What is it that you actually watch then?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I listen to Radio 4 alot and prefer BBC4 and would pay my license just for that.

I'd like poorer people to pay less, with a sliding scale of charges.

Definitely a much better system than the likes of the USA television landscape

. The BBC should never be a biased mouthpiece for the government though, with hidden pressure to do so, or else funding gets cut further "

Comparison with the US is a good one. I lived there for 5 years, and nothing remotely like the bbc exists there

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

I had a call from the license inspectors once, saying they were in my area. We had just converted a multi-residence property into a single residence home, and they were chasing for a license on flat 2, which didn’t exist any more.

I explained the situation, said that we had a license but didn’t need multiple ones. The person on the phone threatened 1000 pound fines and said she as going to send an inspector around. I said fine, what time can they get here … showing the inspector our license and home would clear things up right away.

But she couldn’t say if / when the inspector would call, just kept threatening 1000 pound fines.

Waste of time if they aren’t actually going to visit

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
over a year ago

West Suffolk

"Not had a licence for years. Don’t watch live tv so don’t need one.

They should also dump a lot of the stuff that costs a fortune to produce that hardly anyone tunes in to, such as local radio.

License isn’t just needed if you watch live tv "

I’ll expand on my original comment….

As well as not watching any live tv, I don’t use iplayer and don’t watch BBC produced programmes or listen to BBC radio via any other medium in recorded form, other than DVDs I own. I seldom ever turn the TV on to watch anything other than a DVD or a film I’ve purchased on iTunes. So, as previously stated, I don’t need a license.

I don’t avoid watching BBC stuff just to avoid paying the licence fee, the BBC just don’t make anything I want to watch. I used to watch Dragons Den back in the day (had a licence at the time) but even that’s gone off the boil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

In the words of Chris Morris, we find this idea to be absolute nonce-sense.

An argument so flawed it futile arguing with you.

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

I do not pay for TV licence or council tax as I maybe 6 months or more out of the country when required

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By *esthetic21Man
over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol

I haven't watched TV since I left school really and don't intend to. Music is all I need (don't have a TV licence)

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By *ithintemptationsCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

"I work for the BBC I am coming for you"
crack on !,the last tv licence van who came round,i went to his van opened to reveal absolutely nothing!!,and he left with a broken big toe trying to get into my flat to see my tv after slamming the door shut on him,never heard nothing since,but then again i know your not a bbc robot anyway..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work for the BBC I am coming for you

This is how sex scandals start.

Don’t mention Jimmy

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Yes still pay mine x

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Well Fabbers are certainly bucking the trend of around 9% of the uk population not having a licence...my calculation says 52% on this thread so far don't have one. Also found these stats on the interweb..

BBC TV licence evasion is on the rise as new figures reveal nearly 2,000 people are convicted for the crime each week in England and Wales. The BBC estimates that nearly one in ten people (9%) who need a TV licence didn’t have one in the year ending March 2022, nearly double the rate seen just seven years before.

Home Office figures show 1,700 people are convicted every week, making it the third most common crime, after speeding and vehicle insurance offences. And it is the most common crime women are prosecuted for across all types of criminal offences - accounting for more than a quarter of all female prosecutions.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Note that's 9% of people who need one so some fabbers on here may not be in that category.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

bedlington

I wouldn’t give a penny to that filthy bastard pedo corporation and can’t wait till the day I’m actually in when the “enforcement” office calls round

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By *eyeYCouple
over a year ago

Nr Leicester

Nope! Haven't had one since I divorced as I am no longer forced to watch reality or voting based shite..

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By *avinaTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Transsexual Transylvania

TV licence!?

Is that like a dog licence?

I've never had to pay before! This is The Patriarchy trying to deny me my right to self-expression! I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it!

Oh! Oh Tee-Veeeeeeeee! Alright, as you were.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd never pay for something that I'm never using. I'm way too young to watch TV, it's just the same shitty repeats of shows from when I was like 10.

I stream and play video games these days.

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By *avinaTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Transsexual Transylvania

"I'd never pay for something that I'm never using. I'm way too young to watch TV, it's just the same shitty repeats of shows from when I was like 10.

I stream and play video games these days."

I stream too if I've eaten a really hot curry, or dodgy fish.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

Your license fee doesn’t just cover terrestrial TV… it covers radio, both national and local… bbc children programming, the natural history unit (which is worth it in my eyes alone) the website and the iPlayer…

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By *eally_RosieWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Have now filled in my declaration and cancelled my direct debit, as I don’t use any of the services mentioned

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

"I prefer to watch what I want to watch and when I want to watch it. So no TV licence for years now.

Sounds like you should have a license

What is it that you actually watch then? "

I watch shows on Amazon Prime, like Grand Tour and other that take my fancy and shows/movies on Disney +, like Grey's Anatomy and The Resident currently. Not into watching any kind of sports events (those are usually shown live).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

In the words of Chris Morris, we find this idea to be absolute nonce-sense.

An argument so flawed it futile arguing with you."

If anything remotely like Brass Eye or Blue Jam came back on our screens there may be some merit.

Sadly it's peddling Tory nonce-sense, pandered to nonces' senses, and is riddled with pandervision.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

I pay and actually enjoy paying my TV licence bill , absolutely amazing value for money . MOTD , parliament channel, traitors , radio 5 , radio 4 , radio 4extra , radio 5 extra , world service , Strictly , the 5 local radio stations I can get on my TV , news channel , hignfy , only connect , worth every penny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

In the words of Chris Morris, we find this idea to be absolute nonce-sense.

An argument so flawed it futile arguing with you.

If anything remotely like Brass Eye or Blue Jam came back on our screens there may be some merit.

Sadly it's peddling Tory nonce-sense, pandered to nonces' senses, and is riddled with pandervision."

You think the BBC is right centric? Have you watched Victoria Derbyshire?

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By *panksspankedMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Not paid mine for 16 years I don't have an aerial let alone have one plugged in

I get letters from TV licence but has never had our names so they ain't getting a penny

In Scotland they can't apply an automatic fine. They have to prove to the Proculater Fiscal that every effort has been made to reach a financial agreement with those watching TV before wasting the Court's time.

I think BBC radio is terrific despite the efforts of some of those in charge and I would really miss it far more than BBC television.

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By *attoodchapMan
over a year ago

Swansea

I've not had one for 6 years now. I've had letters every month for the whole duration. Same letters recycled over and over. I never replied, they dont have any details so have zero clue who lives here or what I watch.

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By *panksspankedMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Well Fabbers are certainly bucking the trend of around 9% of the uk population not having a licence...my calculation says 52% on this thread so far don't have one. Also found these stats on the interweb..

I'd be interested to see figures for Scotland where they have to work harder to convict people

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

For anyone who should have a TV licence but does not pay it , your contribution is paid by those of us who do pay ,, in the same way we pay more for items in shops to compensate for items taken by shop lifters

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By *ave0070Man
over a year ago

Sleaford

I have never paid for a TV licence and never will the BBC does make some good programs but not enough to warrant paying that much xx

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By *929Man
over a year ago

bedlington

"For anyone who should have a TV licence but does not pay it , your contribution is paid by those of us who do pay ,, in the same way we pay more for items in shops to compensate for items taken by shop lifters "

It’s easy enough in this day and age for the pedo corporation to go subscription only then it can be sure nobody is watching their shite for free not blame those that don’t pay for thrm overcharging those that are happy to pay for the dross they put out

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By *eceivers-of-edenCouple
over a year ago

W Yorks

Not watched TV for over a decade now

Mandy x

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

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There should be a major probe into how this ever became a 'crime'.

This goes way back to another era when there was only one broadcaster in Britain and long before television even appeared on the scene.

Time for a serious review, in my opinion.

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By *ineappleroloWoman
over a year ago

Derby

No TV licence for me. I barely watch Netflix or Prime as it is.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

That's one of the reasons I don't pay. I wouldn't want to support licence dodgers just as much as I don't want to pay for trashy content!

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"No TV licence for me. I barely watch Netflix or Prime as it is. "

That's two more things than I intend to watch!

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By *ikeNrachCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

I don’t pay. Don’t watch live TV or BBC. Have informed them online before twice but still get threatened off them after a couple of years. Then let them send out the goon squad. That way someone else’s TV license is waisted on them and not on saville types.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pay for ours, only because I like to watch call the midwife every January which is ridiculous really.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

bedlington

That's one of the reasons I don't pay. I wouldn't want to support licence dodgers just as much as I don't want to pay for trashy content!"

Hahaha good point I’m adding this to my reasons for not paying

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Both Chili jon carne and the Black belt barrister, cover this topic quite well.

Ony live telly, from anywhere and the ipalyer need one. all other catchup service do NOT require a licence.

The beeb/capita stigmatise non payers as evaders.

Hands up who evades Netflix, Disney, Amazon Prime, Sky, Virgin, BT, Now TV, HBO and Hul, to name few. Imagine getting threatening letters and salesmen (goons) acting like wannabe bailifs, tricking you into admitting something you haven't done or making you buy a licence.

Dave the channel, the one with BBC2 repeats all over it, has adverts. They are organised by Channel 4.

So yes, Aunty does have adverts, but calls herself Dave to confuse and confound. It's all smoke and mirrors.

The beeb has a multitude of companies that are commercial and forgets to tell us that BBC America

and I quote

"The BBC’s income is around £5 billion (£4.943 billion in 2020, to be precise).

Of this, around £3.5 billion is generated from the licence fee. But a significant amount is generated through other, non-public means.

For example, over £1.3 billion of income came through BBC Studios, one of its commercial arms, which, among other things, generates money by selling BBC content to international distributors.

BBC Studios also owns the UKTV channels, including Gold and Dave, through which it earns advertising revenue."

From an article by Abbas Panjwani

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

In the words of Chris Morris, we find this idea to be absolute nonce-sense.

An argument so flawed it futile arguing with you.

If anything remotely like Brass Eye or Blue Jam came back on our screens there may be some merit.

Sadly it's peddling Tory nonce-sense, pandered to nonces' senses, and is riddled with pandervision.

You think the BBC is right centric? Have you watched Victoria Derbyshire? "

I'm not sure what you're implying?

There's a YouGov poll titled "Is the BBC more favourable towards Labour/the left or the Conservatives/the right?"

The results: 32% didn't know, 26% felt it was neutral, 13% felt it was a little to the right, 13% a little to the left, 9% more to the left, and 6% more to the right. You'd think if it was more conclusive, the poll would be highly skewed in favour of one over the other.

Do I believe it has an agenda that supports the current Tory agenda? Look at the coverage of Brexit, COVID, Ukraine, Israel.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

Haven't paid it in years. Used to just shut the door in their faces of they knocked. Now have a smart TV and fire stick. Hardly ever watch normal TV

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work for the BBC I am coming for you"
good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do pay it but havent switched the tv on in months. I quite like some of the stuff on bbc4 when I do watch it. Otherwise I just have it for background noise.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"I listen to Radio 4 alot and prefer BBC4 and would pay my license just for that.

I'd like poorer people to pay less, with a sliding scale of charges.

Definitely a much better system than the likes of the USA television landscape

. The BBC should never be a biased mouthpiece for the government though, with hidden pressure to do so, or else funding gets cut further

Comparison with the US is a good one. I lived there for 5 years, and nothing remotely like the bbc exists there"

Except for BBC America and PBS.

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By *dul147Man
over a year ago

Whitehaven

Yep, for exactly the same reason's

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Me.

Because I don't have TV.

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By *G TMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Haven’t paid for years cause I don’t agree with it. Especially when you have the likes of Jeremy Clarkson catapulting perfectly good cars off cliffs for no reason other than to amuse himself Lool

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Haven’t paid for years cause I don’t agree with it. Especially when you have the likes of Jeremy Clarkson catapulting perfectly good cars off cliffs for no reason other than to amuse himself Lool "

You know that's on Amazon....right?

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By *G TMan
over a year ago

birmingham

You know that's on Amazon....right?

I’m on about years ago, top gear. The days when I’d watch Tv, haven’t watched Tv for a long time, that’s how long I’ve been out the game Lool

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By *panksspankedMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

You know that's on Amazon....right?

Only after the BBC reluctantly fired him He was a big money spinner for them.

Personally I can't stand him

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By *ubwifecoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

I know someone who regularly does 35 in a 30 zone. I bet he doesn't pay for a telly licence either. He's so cool and such a rebel!

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over a year ago

"I know someone who regularly does 35 in a 30 zone. I bet he doesn't pay for a telly licence either. He's so cool and such a rebel! "

Lucky sod, we're all for 20mph zones here in London. I'm glad you're so smort staying up there where the rule of law is all different.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Remind me when I first heard the phrase 'Designer arsehole' used?

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By *G TMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Remind me when I first heard the phrase 'Designer arsehole' used?"

When you met Jeremy Lool

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

In the words of Chris Morris, we find this idea to be absolute nonce-sense.

An argument so flawed it futile arguing with you.

If anything remotely like Brass Eye or Blue Jam came back on our screens there may be some merit.

Sadly it's peddling Tory nonce-sense, pandered to nonces' senses, and is riddled with pandervision.

You think the BBC is right centric? Have you watched Victoria Derbyshire? "

...or comrade Kuensberg

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By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

It's also for the radio too

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By *ubwifecoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Some people think the BBC is too far to the right and some people think it's too far to the left. That probably means they've got it as close to spot on as they can without being completely banal and dull.

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By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

"Some people think the BBC is too far to the right and some people think it's too far to the left. That probably means they've got it as close to spot on as they can without being completely banal and dull."
I agree I think there isn't another station that quality checks as much as the BBC to be neautral

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By *use and wolfCouple
over a year ago

angus

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

Don't trust the Biased Broadcasting Association one bit but i never saw the point of getting a TV licence when i left home in 1997. i made one payment in my first flat and never again.

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By *andK78Couple
over a year ago

Newport

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By *ittle miss subWoman
over a year ago

Manchester / Liverpool

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By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

Don't trust the Biased Broadcasting Association one bit but i never saw the point of getting a TV licence when i left home in 1997. i made one payment in my first flat and never again."

They are less bias than any Murdoch company or GB news etc they have to go through loads of training to be unbias

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't payed for the tv licence since Arthur Fowler stole the Christmas club money.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Still do... But for the first time contemplating killing it. Haven't watched sport on bbc for a long time.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"I listen to Radio 4 alot and prefer BBC4 and would pay my license just for that.

I'd like poorer people to pay less, with a sliding scale of charges.

Definitely a much better system than the likes of the USA television landscape

. The BBC should never be a biased mouthpiece for the government though, with hidden pressure to do so, or else funding gets cut further

Comparison with the US is a good one. I lived there for 5 years, and nothing remotely like the bbc exists there

Except for BBC America and PBS."

Oddly I was round someone’s house yesterday & they were watching “BBC News Worldwide (USA) & inbetween the programmes which were pretty much BBC News there were adverts.

So I’m wondering if I watch this one BBC channel do I need a license as the Beeb are being paid advertising revenue on that particular channel?

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over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

Netflix and YouTube do everything I need.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Not had a licence for years. Don’t watch live tv so don’t need one.

They should also dump a lot of the stuff that costs a fortune to produce that hardly anyone tunes in to, such as local radio.

License isn’t just needed if you watch live tv

I’ll expand on my original comment….

How do you know dragons den has gone off the boil if you haven’t been watching it?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

Clarkson is on bbc, is he?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

Don't trust the Biased Broadcasting Association one bit but i never saw the point of getting a TV licence when i left home in 1997. i made one payment in my first flat and never again."

Biased? I’d hate to hear what to think of other news sources then! ??

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Some people think the BBC is too far to the right and some people think it's too far to the left. That probably means they've got it as close to spot on as they can without being completely banal and dull. I agree I think there isn't another station that quality checks as much as the BBC to be neautral "

Agreed. Their efforts to provide “balanced” reporting sometimes backfire, but their overall approach is pretty good.

Bu contrast, clowns like GB News are clocking up staggering amounts broadcasting breaches, little (or no) intention of providing balanced coverage

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By *ullyMan
over a year ago

Near Clacton

I have not had a T.V for nearly nine years. Do not miss it one bit, no radio, and I don't take "newspapers", much prefering proper toilet tissue.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I don't watch television. Not as some sort of grandstanding political thing, I just don't watch television.

If the enforcement people come around, they're most welcome to. They'll probably notice that one TV socket in my flat is gathering dust, and the other is entirely inaccessible behind my wardrobe.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

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How do you know dragons den has gone off the boil if you haven’t been watching it? "

Why does someone have to watch something in order to be informed about it?

I have never watched Dragon's Den but I have just learned via this forum that it has gone off the boil!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Just as well to check exactly what a t.v. licence is needed for.

It's not just for t.v.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"It beggars belief that they haven't come up with the idea of mobile phone licences or internet licences.

It's only because they are too dim to look on here for good ideas from visionaries like me."

Nobody liking my idea of internet licences or mobile phone licences, then?

Just think if the money they would turn over for the lucky ones to cream off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have understood.. TV licence is arm of bbc. They collect for bbc to give to the government and it is filtered back to bbc. Meaning financially bbc claim they need to cut programmes.

The beeb was set up as a company before parliament created Royal Charter. Over £3.5bn was collected in revenues/licence fee 21/22. I believe a lot of it goes to the monarchy

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I don't pay.

But I live in a property with 2 really, really old people. That makes us exempt.

(They're really old)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Some people are idiots, and some people aren't. That probably means they've got it as close to spot on as they can without being completely banal and dull.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I don't pay.

But I live in a property with 2 really, really old people. That makes us exempt.

(They're really old)"

What's really old ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just as well to check exactly what a t.v. licence is needed for.

It's not just for t.v. "

I have too many lawyers in my family to not be completely and utterly anal about stuff like this

Lots and lots of lube and go in gently anal.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I have not had a T.V for nearly nine years. Do not miss it one bit, no radio, and I don't take "newspapers", much prefering proper toilet tissue."

Lully ....... how do you get to know about things and things and other things ?

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"I don't pay.

But I live in a property with 2 really, really old people. That makes us exempt.

(They're really old)

What's really old ?

The age of my parents!

It doesn't need a number. Parents are automatically really old just by virtue of having kids.

Only to their kids though.

(They're over 75)

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By *ourPleasureOnlyMan
over a year ago

halewood

Anyone need IPTV?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No point.

Television is old technology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope never have, always tell them I use my computer for stuff and don't watch live coverage that is true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not paid mines since I moved into my own flat in 2014 out of my parents house. Recently got one of those Firesticks that has everything on them and will never look back.

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By *amierebelMan
over a year ago

My own little world

I've never bought a TV license use iptv and off recently kodi when on xbox

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By *lattyukbiMan
over a year ago

Rugby

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

No TV (ex wife got custody!) so don’t need a licence. From the very first their letters were accusatory in nature… so… letting them run up their postage bills by refusing to respond!

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By *oJo pornstarMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

If you don't pay I wouldn't worry to much.

Apparently according to BBC they couldn't detect 100s of the own staff r@pe!ng thousands of kids over a period of decades inside their own buildings.

According to the BBC they are so inept at detecting hideous crimes committed right in front of their face I wouldn't worry about them detecting you watching MOTD on the iPlayer on a Tuesday night many miles from broadcasting house.

I actually pay mine as am all posh n that nowadays, when I was younger and struggling, the TV license was something I overlooked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t pay license, I don’t watch TV

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By *londebiguyMan
over a year ago

Southport

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

Never , ever bought one.

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By *londebiguyMan
over a year ago

Southport

"Anyone need IPTV? "

What's IPTV?

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By *amierebelMan
over a year ago

My own little world

Internet protocol television (actually thought it was Internet provided television)

Basically gives access to every channel out there available and all you box offices club football channels etc pal

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By *andy_FraserTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I pay it, because "Better safe than sorry".

I just don't see the point in arguing or debating it.

You pay it? Well done.

You don't pay it? You might get away with it, you might get fined? You're taking the chance not me.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"It beggars belief that they haven't come up with the idea of mobile phone licences or internet licences.

It's only because they are too dim to look on here for good ideas from visionaries like me."

Bumping my post from 8 weeks ago because TV licensing obviously haven't read it yet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 44 now and have never had one, not once. I've had precisely one visit from licencing and I just told them I wasn't interested and asked them to leave my property. That's was years ago, they've never come back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No comment, officer

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over a year ago

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?"

Although we watch very little terrestrial TV, we fully support the bbc and its huge myriad of media outlets.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I deliberately don't watch any "realtime TV" to avoid this.

Partly because terrestrial TV is so crap. Partly as a political stance because I don't wanna fund the beeb.

Anyone else do something similar?

Although we watch very little terrestrial TV, we fully support the bbc and its huge myriad of media outlets. "

I'd support it (ok probably not as a news outlet, as it's mostly poorly written, poorly presented and poorly researched with little editorial responsibility) but as a media content provider it does some good work, no, excellent work.

Either way it would be infinitely more supportable if it was funded like all other media empires rather than bbc tax.

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

I don't watch TV, finding most of its content useless and unappealing.

Cancelled my TV license as I wasn't prepared to pay for something I don't use.

I get by just fine with YouTube and a streaming service.

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over a year ago

"I have understood.. TV licence is arm of bbc. They collect for bbc to give to the government and it is filtered back to bbc. Meaning financially bbc claim they need to cut programmes.

The beeb was set up as a company before parliament created Royal Charter. Over £3.5bn was collected in revenues/licence fee 21/22. I believe a lot of it goes to the monarchy "

OK here's a fact check for you

Since 2003 the BBC itself is in charge of setting the tv license

& collecting the license fee.

BBC collects approx £3.7 billion a year

5% of the collected fees go to administering the license fee and topping up staff pension shortfalls.

BBC makes £2billion a year selling its TV shows to other countries and licensing (toys, dvds, books etc)

The BBC offers twenty-five public services in the UK. There are eight television channels, sixteen radio stations and an online/red button interactive service.

Royal family get nothing

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By *aysOfOurLivesCouple
over a year ago

Essex

"I had forgotten what it covers so had to look it up...

A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, Channel 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

I do pay it."

100%.. is is a myth that it is just to watch “live tv” the BBC is essential to have an independent (or close approximation) new source, but the tv / radio shows are so sun-par, they are now simply redundant and now need to be dropped and the license fee reduced to only cover the news.

we pay but we hate paying. We hate that it’s not just for watching the BBC but is to fund them. That sounds like a “protection” racket to us.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I have understood.. TV licence is arm of bbc. They collect for bbc to give to the government and it is filtered back to bbc. Meaning financially bbc claim they need to cut programmes.

The beeb was set up as a company before parliament created Royal Charter. Over £3.5bn was collected in revenues/licence fee 21/22. I believe a lot of it goes to the monarchy

OK here's a fact check for you

Since 2003 the BBC itself is in charge of setting the tv license

& collecting the license fee.

BBC collects approx £3.7 billion a year

5% of the collected fees go to administering the license fee and topping up staff pension shortfalls.

BBC makes £2billion a year selling its TV shows to other countries and licensing (toys, dvds, books etc)

The BBC offers twenty-five public services in the UK. There are eight television channels, sixteen radio stations and an online/red button interactive service.

Royal family get nothing

Do the embassies pay for their tellys at work and home?

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By *eyeYCouple
over a year ago

Nr Leicester

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By *eyeYCouple
over a year ago

Nr Leicester

Personally don't have one or miss it.

Made the decision when they removed free licenses for OAP's, the irony of "Lest we forget" and covering the remembrance parades.. Retirees working in the 70/80's after the banks were allowed to get away with gambling with their pensions..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cancel Gary woke Linacer..then I'll pay

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Cancel Gary woke Linacer..then I'll pay"

We can't have beeb telly presenters waffling on about politics, can we Mr Portillo?

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Are there any tv licensing goons on this site? If so beware what you post.

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