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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool

The Online Safety Bill came into play today which means sending unsolicited sexual imagery is now against the law and will affect roughly 90% of SMs on here

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.


"The Online Safety Bill came into play today which means sending unsolicited sexual imagery is now against the law and will affect roughly 90% of SMs on here "

That won't stop the dick pics unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Online Safety Bill came into play today which means sending unsolicited sexual imagery is now against the law and will affect roughly 90% of SMs on here "

Does it genuinely cover entities like fab?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Online Safety Bill came into play today which means sending unsolicited sexual imagery is now against the law and will affect roughly 90% of SMs on here

That won't stop the dick pics unfortunately "

Unfortunately not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Online Safety Bill came into play today which means sending unsolicited sexual imagery is now against the law and will affect roughly 90% of SMs on here "

A jail full of horny swingers would be amazing!

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

Does it state it will apply to adult targeted sites such as this?

I don't do it so it's zero impact on me regardless but I imagine it's a grey area when it comes to sexual graphic sites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love to know moderaters views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!"

People do not read profiles let alone terms and conditions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is great news! Unsolicited being the operative word so should apply to fab and it’s ilk regardless eventually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It won't stop it sadly.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
over a year ago

Stoke

I hope it covers this site, as a straight male couple we hate em!

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By *rumcouple2013Couple
over a year ago

Tamworth


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

People do not read profiles let alone terms and conditions. "

Very true.

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By *ittle miss subWoman
over a year ago

Manchester / Liverpool


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!"

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

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By *ireblade16Man
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics. "

Want one? lol xx

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

Is a profile pic with a dick in it an unsolicited dick pic?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics. "

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Is a profile pic with a dick in it an unsolicited dick pic?"

The law relates to the 'sending of' and I suspect that's the crucial bit.

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By *inky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics. "

They don't, just the ones they don't fancy.

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

I wonder if fab is hosted on servers in England and if it's registered as a business there

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By *aggonerMan
over a year ago

for a penny


"Does it state it will apply to adult targeted sites such as this?

I don't do it so it's zero impact on me regardless but I imagine it's a grey area when it comes to sexual graphic sites "

If I sent dick pics it would definitely be a grey area

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site. "

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics. "

But shouldn’t it be up to the individual to seek then out not have your inbox bombarded with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?"

Rewritten T&C will probably indemnify FabSwingers.com against any liability.

Well written ones will likely say that by being a member of this site, you waive the right to bring a complaint against the site or its members for receiving unsolicited adult content.

In much the same way that most employment contracts now include a waiver of working time directives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?"

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And how many of the people here receiving unsolicited dick pics will expose themselves to make an official complaint?

Most don't show their faces and let alone their identity, so how anyone would find who's dick pic they received is whos?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

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This^

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

They don't, just the ones they don't fancy.

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So almost all of them then.

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
over a year ago

Glasgow / London


"I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again. "

Or, on the other hand, you can print it out, laminate it, and add it to your collage wall.

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By *tanley FunseekerMan
over a year ago

stanley

Never sent an unsolicited dick pick, never will

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court. "

Maybe. But if the law classes fab as a pornographic site, not a social media one, which I expect it does. Don't be surprised if that's the case. You come on here knowing there will be nudity. Private messages won't hold the same weight as on other social media platforms if that is the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court. "

Ok that's not even relatable!

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By *exiLanewayTV/TS
over a year ago

Wexford


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If I sent dick pics it would definitely be a grey area"

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By *over_boy_98Man
over a year ago

Kingsbridge

That law is unfair. I mean how will anyone who doesn't watch TV new even know about it and what it means exactly. Also Conservatives never do anything because they care about people, it's always a power grab instead

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!"

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

"

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously.

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

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Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

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By *KTim61Man
over a year ago

Tipton

I've only got 1 on my Profile

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously. "

Yes, agreed. Would be interesting to see what happened if one was reported. It may well get a different response depending on which authority deals with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about "

In every day life yes, on fab??

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

As long as guys have one on their profile, they won’t need to send one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

"

Agreed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am trying to find the full wording of the Act. It will need a read to understand the full implications

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By *sername already in useMan
over a year ago

manchester

Luckily I sent all mine out last night.

Phew.

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By *ldbutrandyMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

I was thinking of getting a tattoo on my dick that said..unsolicited. so that every pic I took of it from then on would be an unsolicited dick pic !

Till I realised I'd only be able to fit unsol on it

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

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By *inky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

They don't, just the ones they don't fancy.

So almost all of them then. "

I meant really the comments such as: " Don't send me dick pics, unless they are pretty/hung.

Be careful what you wish for...

I don't send, unless they ask.

Display it occasionally for a couple of weeks, but then I realize there's no need.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
over a year ago

Stoke


"I am trying to find the full wording of the Act. It will need a read to understand the full implications"

States this as part of the act:

Other new offences have been created, including cyber-flashing - sending unsolicited sexual imagery online - and the sharing of "deepfake" pornography, where AI is used to insert someone's likeness into pornographic material.

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By *electableicecreamMan
over a year ago

The West

People are conflating things.

Fab will be covered by 'intermediary liability' laws similar to Section 230 in the States

Fab is very unlikely hold liability for what it members send each other and have provided a robust moderation and reporting structure.

If a fan member decides to report another member to the authorities for sending an unsolicited dick pic, then it is very likely to be covered under the new law.

I could be wrong but that's my read of it.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not.

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

It should be straightforward for a Penis Recognition algorithm to stamp out dick pics once and for all.

Only the most cunning of disguises would slip through the AI net. I'm stocking up on false nose/glasses combos now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this came into force on Fab, I can see it being a reportable offence and a site ban as a result. Would it be such a bad thing? I don't think it would be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The new law amends section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

I am summarising, but it says it's an offence to send to another an image, film etc of genitals, if the sending was intended to cause alarm, distress or humiliation.

OR

The sending was for the purpose of sexual gratification, and the sender was reckless as to whether the sending would cause alarm, distress or humiliation.

There is no exemption for sending on a pornographic or sexually explicit site.

So from the wording, unsolicited dick (or vag) pics could fall under the new offence.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
over a year ago

Stoke


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not. "

But if profiles specifically state 'No dick pics' like ours does, then surely it's unsolicited no matter what platform you're using?

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey

Why is this even an issue on here? If you don't like what's sent to you just delete it.

It might be a pain but it should not be illegal on here. By joining a site like this it's surely 'implied' that you may see images of a sexua nature.

Does it cover females too. Will all sexualised images on here be banned? Come on guys lighten up, Mrs xxx

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By *loss aka Miss JonesWoman
over a year ago

south coast IOW


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site. "

Ha ha your chain is growing

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By *herry delightWoman
over a year ago

Ilfracombe

Under the proposed legislation announced on Sunday, anyone who sends a photo or film of a person’s genitals - "for the purpose of their own sexual gratification or to cause the victim humiliation, alarm or distress" - may face up to two years in prison.

You might be alarmed or distressed, but you would have to prove that they intend to cause alarm or distress. As this is a swinging site you would be very unlikely to.

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

"

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

I've actually gone a day without getting one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?"

I think I'll chance it.

Dick pic anyone?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"If this came into force on Fab, I can see it being a reportable offence and a site ban as a result. Would it be such a bad thing? I don't think it would be."

Bad? Not at all. For the most part I myself am looking at it logically though. And unless it's worded in a specific way there is a big chance that it won't apply to fab because laws need to be worded in very specific ways. Fab itself falls in to an overlap, it's pornographic but also social media. There is a chance unsolicited may not apply to porn sites, which would make sending of such a none crime.

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By *herry delightWoman
over a year ago

Ilfracombe


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not.

But if profiles specifically state 'No dick pics' like ours does, then surely it's unsolicited no matter what platform you're using?"

You might be alarmed or distressed, but you would have to prove that they intend to cause alarm or distress. As this is a swinging site you would be very unlikely to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

"

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not.

But if profiles specifically state 'No dick pics' like ours does, then surely it's unsolicited no matter what platform you're using?"

Not unless it's stated as law. The law may not apply that to pornographic sites. It all depends on the wording of the law.

Pornographic sites may fall under a case of you entered the site knowing genitalia will be seen regardless where. I'm not say that will be the case but because of how laws require very specific wording to work, I'd not be surprised if it won't apply here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick "

Don't women get to choose when?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Under the proposed legislation announced on Sunday, anyone who sends a photo or film of a person’s genitals - "for the purpose of their own sexual gratification or to cause the victim humiliation, alarm or distress" - may face up to two years in prison.

You might be alarmed or distressed, but you would have to prove that they intend to cause alarm or distress. As this is a swinging site you would be very unlikely to.

"

You are reading it wrong.

You'd have to show intent to cause alarm, distress or humiliation, OR you'd have to show sexual gratification and recklessness as to whether A, D or H wad caused.

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey

It has to cause alarm, distress or humiliation. Find it difficult for users to argue that they have suffered any of these things from a pic of a willy on here.Even if you say 'no dick pics'.

It's just another example of users not respecting another's preference. Just use common sense, delete the message and move on, Mrs xxx

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously. "

Here's the thing though. You don't need a phone number to register. Just an email address, which is free to get and not linked to the real 'you' at all.

How would the site provide details of an anonymous user?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site "

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

Don't women get to choose when? "

No no

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?

I think I'll chance it.

Dick pic anyone? "

You're asking if anyone wants one and as such is no longer 'unsolicited'. I wouldn't want you as my lawyer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

"

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?

I think I'll chance it.

Dick pic anyone?

You're asking if anyone wants one and as such is no longer 'unsolicited'. I wouldn't want you as my lawyer "

I wouldn't want you as my plus one at a party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law."

I’d say probably not. Prosecutions only get through if it’s got a good chance of conviction and it’s in the public interest. Sending a dick pic on a sex site 9/10 times is presumably done to try and entice someone to have sex with said penis. I don’t think you’d be able to prove an intent to cause distress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And how is it different from receiving an ask for unsolicited sex in all possible scenarios from a stranger on this site? Is that acceptable but not a dick pic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has to cause alarm, distress or humiliation. Find it difficult for users to argue that they have suffered any of these things from a pic of a willy on here.Even if you say 'no dick pics'.

It's just another example of users not respecting another's preference. Just use common sense, delete the message and move on, Mrs xxx"

Don't start with common sense on here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not. "

Other pornographic sites where users can send each other images blur the image and the recipient choose if they view it or not. Fab does not have these safeties in place. Given this change if law it probably would be wise for it to do this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

"

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

Don't women get to choose when?

No no "

There's no implied consent though...just cos we like dick.

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By *herry delightWoman
over a year ago

Ilfracombe


"Under the proposed legislation announced on Sunday, anyone who sends a photo or film of a person’s genitals - "for the purpose of their own sexual gratification or to cause the victim humiliation, alarm or distress" - may face up to two years in prison.

You might be alarmed or distressed, but you would have to prove that they intend to cause alarm or distress. As this is a swinging site you would be very unlikely to.

You are reading it wrong.

You'd have to show intent to cause alarm, distress or humiliation, OR you'd have to show sexual gratification and recklessness as to whether A, D or H wad caused. "

That is what I said the person receiving would have to prove that the person sending a dick pic intended to cause distress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!"

Woman chose to join a site where men think with their penis.

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By *r Mrs FuckableCouple
over a year ago

Stoke


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously.

Here's the thing though. You don't need a phone number to register. Just an email address, which is free to get and not linked to the real 'you' at all.

How would the site provide details of an anonymous user? "

Your I.P Address everytime you log on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be much easier to argue an unsolicited dick pic could cause distress on fb or insta for example but if you’re on a sex site looking for sex then it’s part and parcel of the experience that you’re gonna get pics of dicks whether you like it or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

Again, it holds no weight when it comes to a pornographic site (not social media). The entire premise of such site (categorically) is that you will see genitalia - victim blaming or not it is the nature of such a website. And this is likely what the law will view - pornography site.

On a social level you are right, but lawfully unless it's made specifically clear thatit applies to any and all private messages regardless of site type it won't be impacted regardless of unsolicited or not.

But if profiles specifically state 'No dick pics' like ours does, then surely it's unsolicited no matter what platform you're using?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law.

I’d say probably not. Prosecutions only get through if it’s got a good chance of conviction and it’s in the public interest. Sending a dick pic on a sex site 9/10 times is presumably done to try and entice someone to have sex with said penis. I don’t think you’d be able to prove an intent to cause distress "

Even if said profile says no dick pics.

There is your grey area!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would be much easier to argue an unsolicited dick pic could cause distress on fb or insta for example but if you’re on a sex site looking for sex then it’s part and parcel of the experience that you’re gonna get pics of dicks whether you like it or not "

You'd think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

Don't women get to choose when?

No no

There's no implied consent though...just cos we like dick. "

Surely fab could get round this with a simple disclaimer on the home page? Warning: you will see genitals

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey


"It has to cause alarm, distress or humiliation. Find it difficult for users to argue that they have suffered any of these things from a pic of a willy on here.Even if you say 'no dick pics'.

It's just another example of users not respecting another's preference. Just use common sense, delete the message and move on, Mrs xxx

Don't start with common sense on here! "

Just delete the message, generally its never going to be illegal on a site like this.

Imagine the legally system being overburden by those who want to be fucked by cocks but do not want to see said cocks in an opening message. It's never going to happen.

That'd why there's a block option too xxx

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law.

I’d say probably not. Prosecutions only get through if it’s got a good chance of conviction and it’s in the public interest. Sending a dick pic on a sex site 9/10 times is presumably done to try and entice someone to have sex with said penis. I don’t think you’d be able to prove an intent to cause distress "

No but the other aspect of illegality is that it's been done for the sexual gratification of the sender, not *just* an intent to cause distress.

How they'd go about proving it is another matter but is probably the flip side of the argument "He's on a sex site so of course he's done it for sexual gratification".

The "it's a sex site what do you expect" defence would mean you can't have it both ways where a female shouldn't be distressed by it AND also say that the male wasn't doing it for sexual reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!

Woman chose to join a site where men think with their penis. "

Woman argues ignorance of men's true nature...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!

Woman chose to join a site where men think with their penis. "

It is not the responsibility of the victim no matter the arena. A sex worker can get sexually assaulted in a brothel!

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

Don't women get to choose when?

No no

There's no implied consent though...just cos we like dick.

Surely fab could get round this with a simple disclaimer on the home page? Warning: you will see genitals "
Not that I think they will have to but you're right and that would be the end of it, Mrs xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!

Woman chose to join a site where men think with their penis.

Woman argues ignorance of men's true nature..."

I'm tired now, I'm off to look at the penis in my inbox.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Playing devils advocate with you, because women are on a sex site and therefore want to see dick

Don't women get to choose when?

No no

There's no implied consent though...just cos we like dick.

Surely fab could get round this with a simple disclaimer on the home page? Warning: you will see genitals "

Depends how well-written this law is, I guess!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law.

I’d say probably not. Prosecutions only get through if it’s got a good chance of conviction and it’s in the public interest. Sending a dick pic on a sex site 9/10 times is presumably done to try and entice someone to have sex with said penis. I don’t think you’d be able to prove an intent to cause distress

Even if said profile says no dick pics.

There is your grey area!"

Is that not a bit like saying ‘no tall men’ and then having tall men message you? I know that’s a shit example

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By *herry delightWoman
over a year ago

Ilfracombe


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Man chose to click on profile and pics. Rinse and repeat!

Woman chose to join a site where men think with their penis.

Woman argues ignorance of men's true nature...

I'm tired now, I'm off to look at the penis in my inbox. "

Stealth boast!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think any court in the land would prosecute an unsolicited dick pic on a sex site

Would the prosecute for sexual assault on a sex offends wing of a prison? Or prosecute a death row inmate for murdering another inmate? The law is the law.

I’d say probably not. Prosecutions only get through if it’s got a good chance of conviction and it’s in the public interest. Sending a dick pic on a sex site 9/10 times is presumably done to try and entice someone to have sex with said penis. I don’t think you’d be able to prove an intent to cause distress

No but the other aspect of illegality is that it's been done for the sexual gratification of the sender, not *just* an intent to cause distress.

How they'd go about proving it is another matter but is probably the flip side of the argument "He's on a sex site so of course he's done it for sexual gratification".

The "it's a sex site what do you expect" defence would mean you can't have it both ways where a female shouldn't be distressed by it AND also say that the male wasn't doing it for sexual reasons.

"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it

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over a year ago

I am safe as I don’t have any also I don’t send pics

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By *ylonseeker2023Man
over a year ago

Harwich

It's about time too with this law.

I can't cope with all these messages that include ladies foo foos!

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By *rLothbrokMan
over a year ago

Lancs


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?

I think I'll chance it.

Dick pic anyone? "

No thanks?

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously.

Here's the thing though. You don't need a phone number to register. Just an email address, which is free to get and not linked to the real 'you' at all.

How would the site provide details of an anonymous user?

Your I.P Address everytime you log on?"
VPN or PAYG mobile?

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By *herry delightWoman
over a year ago

Ilfracombe


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously.

Here's the thing though. You don't need a phone number to register. Just an email address, which is free to get and not linked to the real 'you' at all.

How would the site provide details of an anonymous user?

Your I.P Address everytime you log on?VPN or PAYG mobile?"

Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to get that information off fab you would have to have a court order and to get a court order you would have to prove a crime had been committed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mean, you sign up to a sex site. There is nakedness everywhere and on your own profile.

I always find it amusing how so many people hate dick pics.

This is sort of why there is chance it may not apply here, legally at least. Nakedness and nudity is part of the site. While the private unsolicited dick pics is still a thing, it may not transfer as such due to the nature of the site.

Hmm, that's got more than a whiff of the 'she was asking for it' defence when it comes to sexual assault so I'm not sure it would hold water in court.

Ok that's not even relatable!

Of course it is. It's victim blaming. "She wore this/she's on a swinging site so what does she expect?"

You're a victim getting a dick pic now?

Yes. That's literally what the law is about and what we're talking about

In every day life yes, on fab??

Well I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the law out and be at risk of signing the sex offenders register. Would you fancy risking it with the defence of "fab isn't everyday life"?

I think I'll chance it.

Dick pic anyone? "

Only if it’s your dick I can see.

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it "

Yeah there's definitely that to it and who knows what happens in reality.

I would say though that it's all very well some people being a Philadelphia lawyer on here but I'm guessing that even their stomachs would drop through their arse if they found that they'd been reported to the police for doing it. I think once a lot of people become aware of the law they'll decide it's just not worth the risk

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over a year ago

So who will you be handing over your passport details or drivers license to fab then

Also part off the bill is any site offering adult content now much age verification they user base

Witch tecnily means we’re all brake the law right now and illegal on fab

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey


"I suspect this would require a test case. Somebody on here would have to report an incident to the police and the police would have to investigate and get the identity of the perpetrator by getting the site to divulge the phone number they have registered with. If they take that seriously enough, they would take it to the CPS who would decide if it's in the public interest to prosecute and then go to court.

I suspect that on a swingers web site it wouldn't get that far. It may not even get off the ground. The police have their hands full already. This is aimed at a different group. So even if it is technically illegal on here, I can't see the authorities taking it seriously.

Here's the thing though. You don't need a phone number to register. Just an email address, which is free to get and not linked to the real 'you' at all.

How would the site provide details of an anonymous user?

Your I.P Address everytime you log on?VPN or PAYG mobile?

Correct me if I'm wrong but in order to get that information off fab you would have to have a court order and to get a court order you would have to prove a crime had been committed. "
No I said VPN or PAYG mobile can be used for anonymity, Mrs xxx

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

"

But you've already seen it by that point.

I clearly state, often more than once on my profile, I don't want to receive dick pics. Yet I still get them. I should be able to dictate (excuse the pun) what I don't want in the DMs.

It would be great, if we could just hide explicit photos.

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey


"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it

Yeah there's definitely that to it and who knows what happens in reality.

I would say though that it's all very well some people being a Philadelphia lawyer on here but I'm guessing that even their stomachs would drop through their arse if they found that they'd been reported to the police for doing it. I think once a lot of people become aware of the law they'll decide it's just not worth the risk

"
It's never going to happen, CPS wouldn't pursue this on sites like this.

We are all on here to do whatever with someone's ugly bits. So to claim distress, humiliation etc by seeing images of certain ugly bits would be difficult to establish given the nature of the site, Mrs xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it

Yeah there's definitely that to it and who knows what happens in reality.

I would say though that it's all very well some people being a Philadelphia lawyer on here but I'm guessing that even their stomachs would drop through their arse if they found that they'd been reported to the police for doing it. I think once a lot of people become aware of the law they'll decide it's just not worth the risk

"
This. The fear factor alone will be enough for many dick senders

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it

Yeah there's definitely that to it and who knows what happens in reality.

I would say though that it's all very well some people being a Philadelphia lawyer on here but I'm guessing that even their stomachs would drop through their arse if they found that they'd been reported to the police for doing it. I think once a lot of people become aware of the law they'll decide it's just not worth the risk

It's never going to happen, CPS wouldn't pursue this on sites like this.

We are all on here to do whatever with someone's ugly bits. So to claim distress, humiliation etc by seeing images of certain ugly bits would be difficult to establish given the nature of the site, Mrs xxx"

I expect they would compare it to being flashed at a nudist beach.

Anyway I'm not arguing if it should be allowed or not. Just there is potentially a case for it not applying on here due to pornography category

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

But you've already seen it by that point.

I clearly state, often more than once on my profile, I don't want to receive dick pics. Yet I still get them. I should be able to dictate (excuse the pun) what I don't want in the DMs.

It would be great, if we could just hide explicit photos. "

I don't want unfunny guys messaging me but it still happens!

A click to reveal would work I guess, though I'd still click it just out of morbid curiosity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So who will you be handing over your passport details or drivers license to fab then

Also part off the bill is any site offering adult content now much age verification they user base

Witch tecnily means we’re all brake the law right now and illegal on fab "

All this over dick pics and the biggest bit off the bill has went completely unnoticed

How meny are going to be here when fab require I.D to be produced to join or verfind they all ready user base

enforce age limits and use age-checking measures on platforms where content harmful to children is published

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For anyone missing dick pics, now would be a good time to sign up as a magistrate. "Lets just look at the evidence again shall we..." as we get handed a lovely fat file of dick.

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By *untimeswithme69Man
over a year ago

London

Great now crucify them all

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

I mean, it's a tad frowned upon to bend over and gape your asshole but people.get away with it on here.

Other non sex related sites, in public, going about your normal day, yeah , then it should be illegal. And it is, that's good.

I just think, as an adult, joining a sex site, looking for sex, posting provocative pictures, writing provocative things, it just seems a tad off throwing a hissy fit over a cock pic. You can just delete, block, never have to see again.

But you've already seen it by that point.

I clearly state, often more than once on my profile, I don't want to receive dick pics. Yet I still get them. I should be able to dictate (excuse the pun) what I don't want in the DMs.

It would be great, if we could just hide explicit photos.

I don't want unfunny guys messaging me but it still happens!

A click to reveal would work I guess, though I'd still click it just out of morbid curiosity.

"

Yes... Like the sensitive content on FB. That would definitely help.

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"

Yeah it’s gonna be a very hard one to argue for or against. Be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally I have no confidence any convictions will come of it on a sex site, look at all the other things that are illegal yet people get away with it

Yeah there's definitely that to it and who knows what happens in reality.

I would say though that it's all very well some people being a Philadelphia lawyer on here but I'm guessing that even their stomachs would drop through their arse if they found that they'd been reported to the police for doing it. I think once a lot of people become aware of the law they'll decide it's just not worth the risk

It's never going to happen, CPS wouldn't pursue this on sites like this.

We are all on here to do whatever with someone's ugly bits. So to claim distress, humiliation etc by seeing images of certain ugly bits would be difficult to establish given the nature of the site, Mrs xxx"

As has been said above it's not just about causing distress. The new law also separately covers that the sender has done so for sexual gratification. The 'nature of the site' that you use as an excuse on one hand now becomes a reason for prosecution on the other.

My point would be how desperate to send a cock pic would you have to be that you'd want to risk being reported given the potential consequences?

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

"

Truth bomb.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Does this mean an end to messages from profile dick pics too... Yesss!!

If I want to see it, I'll look more deeply in a gallery, or I'll ask. Chances are I won't though.

C

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By *ubwifecouple OP   Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb. "

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

Is there a difference in law whether the penis is erect or flaccid?

*asking for a friend

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By *tsJustKateWoman
over a year ago

London

What's all the hate for cock pics???

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

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over a year ago

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!"

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Where have all the mods gone?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I wonder if fab is hosted on servers in England and if it's registered as a business there "

We all know that Fabswingers is a publicly traded entity. We read it on a local profile, so it must be true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

A click to reveal would work I guess, though I'd still click it just out of morbid curiosity.

"

You've really thought this through.

What would have to happen is, by default, all users here would have images/media default to "not visible".

A disclaimer box would have to be ticked by anyone who wishes to receive distressing dick documents. Otherwise the only images they could see would be the normal ones.

We already classify images here, and these classifications are moderated before being accepted anyway.

I don't think the bill discusses websites like this. Plus the government are useless understanding the tech.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

"

That like saying a sex worked can’t be sexually assaulted. It’s naive thinking at best!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

A click to reveal would work I guess, though I'd still click it just out of morbid curiosity.

You've really thought this through.

What would have to happen is, by default, all users here would have images/media default to "not visible".

A disclaimer box would have to be ticked by anyone who wishes to receive distressing dick documents. Otherwise the only images they could see would be the normal ones.

We already classify images here, and these classifications are moderated before being accepted anyway.

I don't think the bill discusses websites like this. Plus the government are useless understanding the tech."

You only have to apply it to images send in DM’s not on profile. There are other sex based sites that do this as default and one of them makes millionaires.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Where have all the mods gone?"

Trick or treating?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So who will you be handing over your passport details or drivers license to fab then

Also part off the bill is any site offering adult content now much age verification they user base

Witch tecnily means we’re all brake the law right now and illegal on fab

All this over dick pics and the biggest bit off the bill has went completely unnoticed

How meny are going to be here when fab require I.D to be produced to join or verfind they all ready user base

enforce age limits and use age-checking measures on platforms where content harmful to children is published

"

We are members of 2 other sex sites both of which we have verified using ID. It help hugely eliminate time wasters at the very least.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"The new law amends section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

I am summarising, but it says it's an offence to send to another an image, film etc of genitals, if the sending was intended to cause alarm, distress or humiliation.

OR

The sending was for the purpose of sexual gratification, and the sender was reckless as to whether the sending would cause alarm, distress or humiliation.

There is no exemption for sending on a pornographic or sexually explicit site.

So from the wording, unsolicited dick (or vag) pics could fall under the new offence.

"

I thought that would be the caveat harm or distress. So would being on a 'sex site' mean that it would be unreasonable to be alarmed? Or that it would be reckless? Not sure myself about that.

Isn't relevant to me, I only send if requested.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Dammit someone could have told me this yesterday!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also, I forgot to add. Most ISPs by default, block pornographic content. This relies on a trust model with the website classifying itself correctly.

Fabs seems to do this, if my filters are on, I can't visit the main page. I've also witnessed odd behaviour to do with switching between an non filtered isp to the filtered isp while still logged on Fabs. I can see the text content but any images aren't loaded.

What this means is, anyone who wanted to go on a porn or fabs like entity would have to unblock that content specifically with their ISP - in some ways - it could be argued that there's a level of complicit acceptance when you've jumped the hoops to get it all

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

That like saying a sex worked can’t be sexually assaulted. It’s naive thinking at best!"

It's not like saying a sex worker can't be sexually assaulted at all.

I suspect you'd be hard pushed to claim offence at seeing a dick pick in your inbox, on an 18+ site, where you're looking for sex and displaying sexually intimate and graphic pictures yourself, on a site that has literally millions of graphic pictures.

Surely it's not unreasonable to expect to see dick pics in your inbox?

Equating this to an act of violence on a sex worker because she's a sex worker is a stretch imho.

I can't think of any situation where a sex worker could expect to be assaulted.

Being on a sex site, full of intimate pictures, having graphic pictures of your own and not expecting to see a cock pick however.....

There's a big difference between asking for it and expecting it.

For the record and clarity, no-one asks to be, or should expect to be sexually assaulted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So who will you be handing over your passport details or drivers license to fab then

Also part off the bill is any site offering adult content now much age verification they user base

Witch tecnily means we’re all brake the law right now and illegal on fab

All this over dick pics and the biggest bit off the bill has went completely unnoticed

How meny are going to be here when fab require I.D to be produced to join or verfind they all ready user base

enforce age limits and use age-checking measures on platforms where content harmful to children is published

We are members of 2 other sex sites both of which we have verified using ID. It help hugely eliminate time wasters at the very least. "

I have no problems with it as I have off site platforms that require it was mostly talking about all the people playing behind parters backs and all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

That like saying a sex worked can’t be sexually assaulted. It’s naive thinking at best!

It's not like saying a sex worker can't be sexually assaulted at all.

I suspect you'd be hard pushed to claim offence at seeing a dick pick in your inbox, on an 18+ site, where you're looking for sex and displaying sexually intimate and graphic pictures yourself, on a site that has literally millions of graphic pictures.

Surely it's not unreasonable to expect to see dick pics in your inbox?

Equating this to an act of violence on a sex worker because she's a sex worker is a stretch imho.

I can't think of any situation where a sex worker could expect to be assaulted.

Being on a sex site, full of intimate pictures, having graphic pictures of your own and not expecting to see a cock pick however.....

There's a big difference between asking for it and expecting it.

For the record and clarity, no-one asks to be, or should expect to be sexually assaulted."

It’s completely unreasonable to be sent a dick pic anywhere unsolicited. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The arena is unimportant. Being on a sex site does not give you carte Blanche to send your pecker wood unsolicited.

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over a year ago

This is an extract from a UK study on the subject...

"Results showed that 76% of adolescent girls surveyed had received a dick pic before and 70% of them had been asked to send naked pictures of themselves before. The adolescent girls shared that most of the dick pics they received were not asked for or wanted but they did not feel they could report it. Many participants shared that it felt easier to simply block or ignore the sender, particularly when the sender was a stranger, and that this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is an extract from a UK study on the subject...

"Results showed that 76% of adolescent girls surveyed had received a dick pic before and 70% of them had been asked to send naked pictures of themselves before. The adolescent girls shared that most of the dick pics they received were not asked for or wanted but they did not feel they could report it. Many participants shared that it felt easier to simply block or ignore the sender, particularly when the sender was a stranger, and that this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

"

Sobering statistics

This bill, once passed - would basically kill off the "British Dick Pic" as it (obviously) wouldn't be applicable on an international basis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

"

Which in itself is shocking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

Which in itself is shocking"

Agreed

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

That like saying a sex worked can’t be sexually assaulted. It’s naive thinking at best!

It's not like saying a sex worker can't be sexually assaulted at all.

I suspect you'd be hard pushed to claim offence at seeing a dick pick in your inbox, on an 18+ site, where you're looking for sex and displaying sexually intimate and graphic pictures yourself, on a site that has literally millions of graphic pictures.

Surely it's not unreasonable to expect to see dick pics in your inbox?

Equating this to an act of violence on a sex worker because she's a sex worker is a stretch imho.

I can't think of any situation where a sex worker could expect to be assaulted.

Being on a sex site, full of intimate pictures, having graphic pictures of your own and not expecting to see a cock pick however.....

There's a big difference between asking for it and expecting it.

For the record and clarity, no-one asks to be, or should expect to be sexually assaulted.

It’s completely unreasonable to be sent a dick pic anywhere unsolicited. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The arena is unimportant. Being on a sex site does not give you carte Blanche to send your pecker wood unsolicited. "

I've just looked at your profile pics, they're all fanny and cock pics.

I wasn't expecting that on a family site like Fab, I'm offended, it's disgusting.

Not a single picture of a sunset or a palm fringed beach.

*disgusted of Kidderminster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is an extract from a UK study on the subject...

"Results showed that 76% of adolescent girls surveyed had received a dick pic before and 70% of them had been asked to send naked pictures of themselves before. The adolescent girls shared that most of the dick pics they received were not asked for or wanted but they did not feel they could report it. Many participants shared that it felt easier to simply block or ignore the sender, particularly when the sender was a stranger, and that this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

Sobering statistics

This bill, once passed - would basically kill off the "British Dick Pic" as it (obviously) wouldn't be applicable on an international basis."

Indeed.

It is worrying to think that girls and boys as young as 11 are subjected to such images.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about

No vagina pics

No dick pics filters

That might eleviate the issue for those who say no dick pics or no vagina pics

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"This is an extract from a UK study on the subject...

"Results showed that 76% of adolescent girls surveyed had received a dick pic before and 70% of them had been asked to send naked pictures of themselves before. The adolescent girls shared that most of the dick pics they received were not asked for or wanted but they did not feel they could report it. Many participants shared that it felt easier to simply block or ignore the sender, particularly when the sender was a stranger, and that this was such a common occurrence that it was no longer shocking."

"

I remember watching a short series a few years ago about a group of mums making a porn film.

They'd all spoken to their young teenage children about porn and what they'd seen.

Shocking and mind boggling........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

The "she was asking for it" defence. So successfully used by nonce wing residents up and down the land!

Or, "she's on an 18+ sex site, looking for sex with strangers, and has a gallery full of intimate pictures of her own genitalia, so she could reasonably expect it" defence?

*devil's advocate

That like saying a sex worked can’t be sexually assaulted. It’s naive thinking at best!

It's not like saying a sex worker can't be sexually assaulted at all.

I suspect you'd be hard pushed to claim offence at seeing a dick pick in your inbox, on an 18+ site, where you're looking for sex and displaying sexually intimate and graphic pictures yourself, on a site that has literally millions of graphic pictures.

Surely it's not unreasonable to expect to see dick pics in your inbox?

Equating this to an act of violence on a sex worker because she's a sex worker is a stretch imho.

I can't think of any situation where a sex worker could expect to be assaulted.

Being on a sex site, full of intimate pictures, having graphic pictures of your own and not expecting to see a cock pick however.....

There's a big difference between asking for it and expecting it.

For the record and clarity, no-one asks to be, or should expect to be sexually assaulted.

It’s completely unreasonable to be sent a dick pic anywhere unsolicited. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The arena is unimportant. Being on a sex site does not give you carte Blanche to send your pecker wood unsolicited. "

This

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By *CExeCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln/Exeter

Any prosecution would have to go through a CPS gatekeeper. Given the nature of Fab, I think it highly unlikely any activity on here would make it to a charge. The exception could be someone harassing and sending repeatedly after being told to stop, but that's where the block button comes in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb. "

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour "

*Consensual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont send dick pics so not really relevant to me.. however I would love to see the first court case of this.

Lawyer to lady... " so you joined a sex site, what was you after"

Lady " Cock "

Case dismissed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont send dick pics so not really relevant to me.. however I would love to see the first court case of this.

Lawyer to lady... " so you joined a sex site, what was you after"

Lady " Cock "

Case dismissed. "

Can’t she have cock that she’s chosen? Not ones sent to her without asking? Heaven forbid she has a choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never sent a dick pic in my life, received a fair few and I’ve been sent sons pretty nasty looking vaginas too

This is a good move but ultimately it’s only as good as it is enforceable

If you can’t enforce it, it’s useless

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By *lex.and.SexCouple
over a year ago

Bedale


"

Does it cover females too. Will all sexualised images on here be banned? Come on guys lighten up, Mrs xxx"

Haha oh sweety no...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont send dick pics so not really relevant to me.. however I would love to see the first court case of this.

Lawyer to lady... " so you joined a sex site, what was you after"

Lady " Cock "

Case dismissed.

Can’t she have cock that she’s chosen? Not ones sent to her without asking? Heaven forbid she has a choice "

Should she have a choice.. definitely

Does that happen unfortunately not

That will never change, so then the choice is either stay on here or block men which are both options.

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour "

I don't need educating at all thank you. Very judgemental. I've never sent a dick pic in my life.

Why people send them is beyond me. Sending a dick pic is the equivalent to walking up to a total stranger in a bar, flopping your wang out and saying "fancy a fuck?"

But to be outraged and surprised at seeing a dick pic on an adult site like Fab is naive at best.

Simple, don't send dick pics, especially if the profile says don't send dick pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour "

I'm well aware what's correct conceptual behaviour.

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

"

99 year old dawgs, isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

99 year old dawgs, isn't it?"

I'm trying younger for now. See how it goes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

I'm well aware what's correct conceptual behaviour.

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

"

Eh Who said that you didn’t ? That’s great you don’t mind that. But as you will see from this post a lot of other people do.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

Rewritten T&C will probably indemnify FabSwingers.com against any liability.

Well written ones will likely say that by being a member of this site, you waive the right to bring a complaint against the site or its members for receiving unsolicited adult content.

In much the same way that most employment contracts now include a waiver of working time directives. "

That wouldn’t work because it’s the sending part that is against the law. Ergo no one has to complain about receiving them. If the powers that be found out you’d sent them, you’d be arrested. No need for the receiver to do anything.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure this will be covered in the t&C's!

You think T&Cs would override the law of the land?

Rewritten T&C will probably indemnify FabSwingers.com against any liability.

Well written ones will likely say that by being a member of this site, you waive the right to bring a complaint against the site or its members for receiving unsolicited adult content.

In much the same way that most employment contracts now include a waiver of working time directives.

That wouldn’t work because it’s the sending part that is against the law. Ergo no one has to complain about receiving them. If the powers that be found out you’d sent them, you’d be arrested. No need for the receiver to do anything.

S"

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

I'm well aware what's correct conceptual behaviour.

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

Eh Who said that you didn’t ? That’s great you don’t mind that. But as you will see from this post a lot of other people do. "

There's a difference between doesn't mind and does understand the nature of the site.

Don't want dick pics from daft men, block them all, problem solved.

Of course, that would mean you have to do a bit of work yourself, which a lot of women do.

Probably ironically, end up looking at loads of profiles full of dick pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

I'm well aware what's correct conceptual behaviour.

I'm also well aware I'm on a sex site full of horny men and my inbox isn't gonna be full of cute dogs!

Eh Who said that you didn’t ? That’s great you don’t mind that. But as you will see from this post a lot of other people do. "

I'm saying I realise where I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont send dick pics so not really relevant to me.. however I would love to see the first court case of this.

Lawyer to lady... " so you joined a sex site, what was you after"

Lady " Cock "

Case dismissed. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

I don't need educating at all thank you. Very judgemental. I've never sent a dick pic in my life.

Why people send them is beyond me. Sending a dick pic is the equivalent to walking up to a total stranger in a bar, flopping your wang out and saying "fancy a fuck?"

But to be outraged and surprised at seeing a dick pic on an adult site like Fab is naive at best.

Simple, don't send dick pics, especially if the profile says don't send dick pics.

"
when I see statements like yours yes definitely judgmental and happy to be. You’re back tracking now I see because that’s not what you were saying to start with. Hope you keep the latter statement mindset from now on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

given that fab cant trace or verify someone's identity to the police as its all done through third parties it wont be enforceable on here anyway!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"given that fab cant trace or verify someone's identity to the police as its all done through third parties it wont be enforceable on here anyway!"

But it might even deter the people posting unsolicited pics to stop. Fingers crossed anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ultimately this ‘crime’ will get treated as a lot of other crimes. You’ll only be allowed to be a victim if you’ve done everything right. Block all men. Say you don’t want dick pics. Don’t be on a sex site. Very similar to the woefully underprosecuted r4pe cases. Don’t wear revealing clothes. Don’t walk alone at night. Don’t be d*unk in public. Etc etc.

If your face fits and you’ve jumped through the hoops to make yourself a good victim you might have a chance. Realistically? Not a hope in hell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"given that fab cant trace or verify someone's identity to the police as its all done through third parties it wont be enforceable on here anyway!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"given that fab cant trace or verify someone's identity to the police as its all done through third parties it wont be enforceable on here anyway!

But it might even deter the people posting unsolicited pics to stop. Fingers crossed anyway "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ultimately this ‘crime’ will get treated as a lot of other crimes. You’ll only be allowed to be a victim if you’ve done everything right. Block all men. Say you don’t want dick pics. Don’t be on a sex site. Very similar to the woefully underprosecuted r4pe cases. Don’t wear revealing clothes. Don’t walk alone at night. Don’t be d*unk in public. Etc etc.

If your face fits and you’ve jumped through the hoops to make yourself a good victim you might have a chance. Realistically? Not a hope in hell.

"

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"To play devil's advocate for a moment - ok, it's a "sex site" but why is the imposition of graphic photos of genitals largely pushed by men onto unwilling women?

Man joins sex site.

Man is horny and wants sex.

Clicks on woman's profile.

Woman has tits out, legs open and cock in mouth.

Woman has status "mmmm so wet and horny"

Man thinks hey up we're in here, sends quick "wow babe you hot, want this?" Along with pic of penis

Woman "how DARE you inflict such horror upon my eyes, it burns, IT BURNS!!" Starts protest to burn all penises but not before uploading another vag pic.

And repeat.

Truth bomb.

Wow I can’t actually believe what I’m reading here absolutely utter rubbish. A lot of people have in their profile please don’t send dick pics and still get them sent everyday with normally the caption (suck on this) we don’t have any pics of me sucking cock ect but even if we did that does not excuse being sent some of the most creepy pictures and messages we’ve ever seen.

Your views are disturbing and really need to be educated more on what’s correct conceptual behaviour

I don't need educating at all thank you. Very judgemental. I've never sent a dick pic in my life.

Why people send them is beyond me. Sending a dick pic is the equivalent to walking up to a total stranger in a bar, flopping your wang out and saying "fancy a fuck?"

But to be outraged and surprised at seeing a dick pic on an adult site like Fab is naive at best.

Simple, don't send dick pics, especially if the profile says don't send dick pics.

when I see statements like yours yes definitely judgmental and happy to be. You’re back tracking now I see because that’s not what you were saying to start with. Hope you keep the latter statement mindset from now on "

My statement? I said nothing, other than a 2 word agreement of an observation.

I'm not backtracking at all.

I agreed with an observation. That does not mean I agree with an action. You've added 2 + 2 and made 463.

The site gives us all the tools we need to avoid the things we don't want to see. Use them. Simple.

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