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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Is it getting worse is it getting better?

Are we more informed and better educated or just as ignorant as ever?

Are we as a society growing generation upon generation,are the younger generation putting us on the right track through trying to treat people not as a gender but letting people be who they want to be rather than what society has deemed how it should be?

Are we too stuck in our ways to ever change?

Does anyone actually prefer a more old fashioned approach ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We've made some progress but there's still a long way to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it getting worse is it getting better?

Are we more informed and better educated or just as ignorant as ever?

Are we as a society growing generation upon generation,are the younger generation putting us on the right track through trying to treat people not as a gender but letting people be who they want to be rather than what society has deemed how it should be?

Are we too stuck in our ways to ever change?

Does anyone actually prefer a more old fashioned approach ?"

Nope. We are in fact worse and will never learn nor educate ourselves enough.

Change may be a reason why we contine to be sexist in here. Especially when it comes to saying no shows, both sexes are just as bad as each other.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

If I was to get really deep and heavy as long as free thought is present all forms of prejudice will always be present.

All we can do as humans is to try and be the best we can be in our short time here but strive to make improvements for generations to come.

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men "

That's interesting

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I think it very much depends on where and who you are with.

The coaches of my son's football team will happily say whoever is last to the goalposts wears girls knickers. That kind of casual sexism is rife in certain circumstances. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the hockey teams. There is definitely a class thing going on with sexism, I believe.

There is always some form of sexism, I think we're more aware what is right or wrong. I just don't think it's common practice yet.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men "

I'd agree with this.

Mrs

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

It feels like we are still in the 70's at times

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I think it very much depends on where and who you are with.

The coaches of my son's football team will happily say whoever is last to the goalposts wears girls knickers. That kind of casual sexism is rife in certain circumstances. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the hockey teams. There is definitely a class thing going on with sexism, I believe.

There is always some form of sexism, I think we're more aware what is right or wrong. I just don't think it's common practice yet. "

Have you said something to the coaches?!

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"I think it very much depends on where and who you are with.

The coaches of my son's football team will happily say whoever is last to the goalposts wears girls knickers. That kind of casual sexism is rife in certain circumstances. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the hockey teams. There is definitely a class thing going on with sexism, I believe.

There is always some form of sexism, I think we're more aware what is right or wrong. I just don't think it's common practice yet.

Have you said something to the coaches?! "

What do you think Mrs KC

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I think it very much depends on where and who you are with.

The coaches of my son's football team will happily say whoever is last to the goalposts wears girls knickers. That kind of casual sexism is rife in certain circumstances. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the hockey teams. There is definitely a class thing going on with sexism, I believe.

There is always some form of sexism, I think we're more aware what is right or wrong. I just don't think it's common practice yet.

Have you said something to the coaches?!

What do you think Mrs KC "

Good!!!!!! I'd be livid

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By *inky ChefMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Got better against women, but worse against men in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality."

You reckon UAE has reached equality for all?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I think sexism is still very much an issue. A discussion at work last Friday, with two (male) colleagues who I thought were very enlightened, was worrying. Gender stereotyping is a massive issue for all genders. I could go on forever, but I'd run out of internet paper

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality.

You reckon UAE has reached equality for all? "

The poster sees a very select slice of the UAE. Not the reality, he sees the bit that the UAE want expats to see. My Emirati students tell me the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a woman so I pay most attention to sexism against women. And on the surface it seems like all the legislation and policies are in place to combat sexism. Below the surface, I think it's rife in the UK. In the Houses of Parliament, in the Judiciary, in corporations, in the Emergency Services, in the NHS. And on Fab, it's toxic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality.

You reckon UAE has reached equality for all?

The poster sees a very select slice of the UAE. Not the reality, he sees the bit that the UAE want expats to see. My Emirati students tell me the truth. "

You don’t need to be an Emirati to know the lack of equality in that country. But the shock for me was that they touted the country as leaders in anything to do with women rights and equality. You simply need to be blinded, as you mentioned, to believe in they are excelling in equality or have addressed sexism.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"I think it very much depends on where and who you are with.

The coaches of my son's football team will happily say whoever is last to the goalposts wears girls knickers. That kind of casual sexism is rife in certain circumstances. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the hockey teams. There is definitely a class thing going on with sexism, I believe.

There is always some form of sexism, I think we're more aware what is right or wrong. I just don't think it's common practice yet.

Have you said something to the coaches?!

What do you think Mrs KC

Good!!!!!! I'd be livid "

Especially bad since they have one female player!

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

I think we were getting much better but in the last few years there has been a bit of a backlash.

I guess it's right what they say "If you've only known privilege, equality feels like oppression".

Mr DD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like the pendulum on a clock that never settles in the middle

“All men are trash” mentality is in many peoples minds these days, which is partly why you see the popularity in people like Andrew Tate

Sexism on both sides exist, but only on one side is it celebrated as “empowerment”

Until both sides settle, it’ll never go away

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men "

I would agree with this. Can’t say i remember experiencing sexism myself although people do define it differently. Some would say a man holding a door open for a woman is sexism so I guess what one’s interpretation of it is relevant.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality.

You reckon UAE has reached equality for all?

The poster sees a very select slice of the UAE. Not the reality, he sees the bit that the UAE want expats to see. My Emirati students tell me the truth.

You don’t need to be an Emirati to know the lack of equality in that country. But the shock for me was that they touted the country as leaders in anything to do with women rights and equality. You simply need to be blinded, as you mentioned, to believe in they are excelling in equality or have addressed sexism. "

I was talking about progress over time.

Talk to Emirati women , there’s lots of them here , leading sone of the worlds biggest companies and they certainly don’t want to live in your country

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men "

I am saddened to say I agree with you. It's a very complex and nuanced topic though.

I don't think it signifies that power is now with women or that there's no sexism against women, there clearly is.

But there's a rising polarisation and backlash toward men, which I don't think is helpful.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men

I am saddened to say I agree with you. It's a very complex and nuanced topic though.

I don't think it signifies that power is now with women or that there's no sexism against women, there clearly is.

But there's a rising polarisation and backlash toward men, which I don't think is helpful."

I’m surprised you are surprised. Patriarchy affects men as much as women, often worse, read Jineology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think in the UK it’s getting any better. The intelligentsia is eroding gender as a construct & this isn’t helping women, there is no leadership, your leaders don’t care about the people they lead

If you look at places in the world that have had real success like UAE, Rwanda, Kurdistan & Even New Zealand it comes right from the top - leadership focused on equality.

You reckon UAE has reached equality for all?

The poster sees a very select slice of the UAE. Not the reality, he sees the bit that the UAE want expats to see. My Emirati students tell me the truth.

You don’t need to be an Emirati to know the lack of equality in that country. But the shock for me was that they touted the country as leaders in anything to do with women rights and equality. You simply need to be blinded, as you mentioned, to believe in they are excelling in equality or have addressed sexism.

I was talking about progress over time.

Talk to Emirati women , there’s lots of them here , leading sone of the worlds biggest companies and they certainly don’t want to live in your country "

My country? I’m neither British nor Emirati and haven’t a clue what you’re in about.

Progress within UAE is not the measure of Emirati women. The fact that Emirati women have to leave their country to be able to lead some of the world’s biggest countries should paint an accurate image of the issue at hand.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"It's worse in some respects and better in others. I have noticed an increased trend towards sexism against men

I am saddened to say I agree with you. It's a very complex and nuanced topic though.

I don't think it signifies that power is now with women or that there's no sexism against women, there clearly is.

But there's a rising polarisation and backlash toward men, which I don't think is helpful.

I’m surprised you are surprised. Patriarchy affects men as much as women, often worse, read Jineology."

I'm saddened at the rise and level of divisive polarisation rather than surprised. I'm aware patriarchy affects men detrimentally too. But thank you I have seen you mention Jineology before - it is something I could learn more about.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

The strive for perfection seems to led to paralysis of thought and ability. We seek to pick battles that can never be won. Way too many folks look for reasons not to do something or reasons to pick an argument than accepting we are imperfect but still worth engaging with for all of our faults. It's very often a strange dynamic, forcing people to start sentences with excuses before they've even said a word worth hearing. So no op... Not seeing that it's better, just different.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The strive for perfection seems to led to paralysis of thought and ability. We seek to pick battles that can never be won. Way too many folks look for reasons not to do something or reasons to pick an argument than accepting we are imperfect but still worth engaging with for all of our faults. It's very often a strange dynamic, forcing people to start sentences with excuses before they've even said a word worth hearing. So no op... Not seeing that it's better, just different. "

I'm not following your comment at all. Can you clarify who is starting sentences with excuses? And strive for perfection in what arena?

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