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By *rHotNotts OP   Man
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Has anyone seen this rubbish on social media?

There is now a new type of advertising to men , where everything is put in the context of becoming a real man, blah blah

I’ve been noticing more and more of this stuff The most recent one I’ve seen is from a micro learning app it’s got a picture of a guy he looks about 70 , big, sculpted, white moustache, but really ripped , in a wet T-shirt, FFS.

It says replace Doomscrolling with micro learning.

So now you can be a real man if you can’t even be arsed to read books, you can just read reviews by some idiot on the Internet, and that will make you a ‘real man’ whatever one of those is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh all this absolutely boggles my mind. I honestly hate it, I worry for my son. Social media has become so scary to me, these people have access to others that are so easily influenced.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

40 years ago I was told by someone that I wasn't a real man because I didn't drink alcohol.

It was a stupid term back then and still is today.

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By *rHotNotts OP   Man
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

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By *rHotNotts OP   Man
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Oh all this absolutely boggles my mind. I honestly hate it, I worry for my son. Social media has become so scary to me, these people have access to others that are so easily influenced. "

I sympathise with anybody bringing up boys at the moment. I raised three girls with all kinds of internet / social media challenges, but I think this is far worse. Go to focus on positive male role models….wherever you can find them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck it, I think I prefer to stay the fake man that I am now.

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By *ravelling_WilburyMan
over a year ago

Beverley

I've seen it tagged with 'be the most interesting person in the too.' with what sound like the same handsome older guy. Some of those Blinkest books are really good, it's their recommendations that are cringey

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By *rHotNotts OP   Man
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I've seen it tagged with 'be the most interesting person in the too.' with what sound like the same handsome older guy. Some of those Blinkest books are really good, it's their recommendations that are cringey "

Yeah, I have nothing against micro-learning , but you have to know what you’re doing and why. It’s not about being interesting or sexy.

I wouldn’t use a companies products that does that kind of advertising. It’s just morally wrong.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Sounds like more BS, confusing messages by people who's intrest is selling stuff not helping anyone out. What men and boys need most is good self secure and aware role models in their everyday life, to help them grow into their own skin and not someone else's mold. Media can be very toxic and confusing.

Mr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah social media, the grift that keeps on giving

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By *teve691000Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

Last time I looked, I’m a real man. Simples

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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago

London

Love your body Mrhotnotts! Don't fall for the propaganda! I'm here to hold you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like this real man shit is targeting the same people that the Andrew Tate / Jordan Petersons etc are aiming at.

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By *ravelling_WilburyMan
over a year ago

Beverley


"I've seen it tagged with 'be the most interesting person in the too.' with what sound like the same handsome older guy. Some of those Blinkest books are really good, it's their recommendations that are cringey

Yeah, I have nothing against micro-learning , but you have to know what you’re doing and why. It’s not about being interesting or sexy.

I wouldn’t use a companies products that does that kind of advertising. It’s just morally wrong.

"

By 'in the too' I meant 'in the room' lol but I agree with everything you have said

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester


"Sounds like this real man shit is targeting the same people that the Andrew Tate / Jordan Petersons etc are aiming at."

Suckers will be suckers at parting cash online

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Well that's rubbish everyone knows the only true path to becoming a "real man" is to become a lumberjack.......

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A

I'm seeing these kinds of issues with my nephew I think.

He has a good heart, but it's been soured lately. He was on the cards to turn pro Rugby league, but he just started getting into more and more fights then that started spilling on to the pitch.

There's an anger and frustration in a lot of young men, which is easily turned into hatred. His thing is an anger toward bullies. And he ends up becoming weaponised by girlfriends: in his head he is some gallant White knight. It's sad really because it's usually the gf that are causing all the issues in the first place on social media etc.

Sometimes being a 'man' means recognising when you are being manipulated. Whatever the source may be. Following role models, is not necessarily a good way to develop those skills. Learning to think for yourself is. Good mentors deliver that. That's what's missing in my opinion; that's why they are turning to this kind of crap for guidance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well that's rubbish everyone knows the only true path to becoming a "real man" is to become a lumberjack......."

He's a lumberjack and he's ok...

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester


"I'm seeing these kinds of issues with my nephew I think.

He has a good heart, but it's been soured lately. He was on the cards to turn pro Rugby league, but he just started getting into more and more fights then that started spilling on to the pitch.

There's an anger and frustration in a lot of young men, which is easily turned into hatred. His thing is an anger toward bullies. And he ends up becoming weaponised by girlfriends: in his head he is some gallant White knight. It's sad really because it's usually the gf that are causing all the issues in the first place on social media etc.

Sometimes being a 'man' means recognising when you are being manipulated. Whatever the source may be. Following role models, is not necessarily a good way to develop those skills. Learning to think for yourself is. Good mentors deliver that. That's what's missing in my opinion; that's why they are turning to this kind of crap for guidance."

Young people need to learn to unplug and just enjoy nature / the outdoors and conventional methods of functioning outside with others first hand.

Prime example is culture wars online vs offline. They are not even on the same planet of severity.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I've seen it tagged with 'be the most interesting person in the too.' with what sound like the same handsome older guy. Some of those Blinkest books are really good, it's their recommendations that are cringey

Yeah, I have nothing against micro-learning , but you have to know what you’re doing and why. It’s not about being interesting or sexy.

I wouldn’t use a companies products that does that kind of advertising. It’s just morally wrong.

"

It's a better place when we avoid the organisations putting out harmful, toxic messages

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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago

moon base zero


"Oh all this absolutely boggles my mind. I honestly hate it, I worry for my son. Social media has become so scary to me, these people have access to others that are so easily influenced.

I sympathise with anybody bringing up boys at the moment. I raised three girls with all kinds of internet / social media challenges, but I think this is far worse. Go to focus on positive male role models….wherever you can find them! "

Heres an idea,instead of looking for a male role model...be the role model, thats what I try to do with my son

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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago

Leeds (Home) / Sheffield (Work)

Unfortunately due to the unchecked and rampant misandry online, the Tate types will appeal to a lot of impressionable young men. Where there are people to influence, there is money to be made. There is also the whole red-pill thing.

…and so the cycle goes on.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"I'm seeing these kinds of issues with my nephew I think.

He has a good heart, but it's been soured lately. He was on the cards to turn pro Rugby league, but he just started getting into more and more fights then that started spilling on to the pitch.

There's an anger and frustration in a lot of young men, which is easily turned into hatred. His thing is an anger toward bullies. And he ends up becoming weaponised by girlfriends: in his head he is some gallant White knight. It's sad really because it's usually the gf that are causing all the issues in the first place on social media etc.

Sometimes being a 'man' means recognising when you are being manipulated. Whatever the source may be. Following role models, is not necessarily a good way to develop those skills. Learning to think for yourself is. Good mentors deliver that. That's what's missing in my opinion; that's why they are turning to this kind of crap for guidance.

Young people need to learn to unplug and just enjoy nature / the outdoors and conventional methods of functioning outside with others first hand.

Prime example is culture wars online vs offline. They are not even on the same planet of severity. "

It's very true that. Get out go camping, work together build a fire, cook together. Share stories. Get back to basics. I agree with you. It's what helped me as a young man, teaches you what matters in life.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester


"I'm seeing these kinds of issues with my nephew I think.

He has a good heart, but it's been soured lately. He was on the cards to turn pro Rugby league, but he just started getting into more and more fights then that started spilling on to the pitch.

There's an anger and frustration in a lot of young men, which is easily turned into hatred. His thing is an anger toward bullies. And he ends up becoming weaponised by girlfriends: in his head he is some gallant White knight. It's sad really because it's usually the gf that are causing all the issues in the first place on social media etc.

Sometimes being a 'man' means recognising when you are being manipulated. Whatever the source may be. Following role models, is not necessarily a good way to develop those skills. Learning to think for yourself is. Good mentors deliver that. That's what's missing in my opinion; that's why they are turning to this kind of crap for guidance.

Young people need to learn to unplug and just enjoy nature / the outdoors and conventional methods of functioning outside with others first hand.

Prime example is culture wars online vs offline. They are not even on the same planet of severity.

It's very true that. Get out go camping, work together build a fire, cook together. Share stories. Get back to basics. I agree with you. It's what helped me as a young man, teaches you what matters in life."

People are becoming servitors to online living. The real world is much more freeing I find

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh all this absolutely boggles my mind. I honestly hate it, I worry for my son. Social media has become so scary to me, these people have access to others that are so easily influenced.

I sympathise with anybody bringing up boys at the moment. I raised three girls with all kinds of internet / social media challenges, but I think this is far worse. Go to focus on positive male role models….wherever you can find them! "

Absolutely, his dad is one for him which is a god send but all youngsters regardless of gender are exposed to far too much bullshit. We are close so I hope that he listen to me but he is a teenager ha and thinks he knows best.

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By *weetCruellaWoman
over a year ago

somewhere sweet and sour

It is a very scary time for younsters. Everything is social media. I didnt know this but whatsapp is for over 16s... . Yet how many younger ones are using it? Crazy.

There is so much content online that will def influence young people.. and the online bullying is so so bad.

Young lads need guidance and support from good postive role models.

Need them to step outside of the virtual reality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh all this absolutely boggles my mind. I honestly hate it, I worry for my son. Social media has become so scary to me, these people have access to others that are so easily influenced.

I sympathise with anybody bringing up boys at the moment. I raised three girls with all kinds of internet / social media challenges, but I think this is far worse. Go to focus on positive male role models….wherever you can find them!

Heres an idea,instead of looking for a male role model...be the role model, thats what I try to do with my son"

You are the male role model. I am not male that was his point I believe. Boys and girls need role models but I do find that boys desperately need male ones. I am lucky he is exposed to good ones but not everyone is as fortunate.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"40 years ago I was told by someone that I wasn't a real man because I didn't drink alcohol.

It was a stupid term back then and still is today. "

Incredibly stupid considering alcohol actually lowers testosterone levels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this 'real man' and 'alpha' stuff is all a load of ridiculous nonsense. All I heard growing up were things like I'm 'too sensitive,' I should 'be a man,' and 'boys don't cry.' Without any actual reasoning on why those are valid statements

And the internet just makes it even easier to spread bias and misinformation about how people should be based on their gender or sexuality. It's sad to see that these notions still aren't on their way out

Sensitive emotions and understandings are human. It doesn't matter who you are. It's important to have them

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I have a teenage son, and yeah sometimes he gets swept along with the internet. But I think it's now men need to turn to women. I lived through the her oin chic era, the ultra low rise trousers, the circles of shame in the newspapers. And my generation of women are now coming out the other side of all that BS. We will understand if you talk to us about and you should.

I've already had to have the conversation with my son, that cocks in porn aren't typical. Luckily he's sees it as Hollywood actors to get roles cause they're beautiful and that they just have been blessed with a good cock.

My parents would never have had these conversations with me leading to feeling inadequate. I don't plan to do the same.

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

I have seen said video, as Facebook decided, because of my age, it would appeal. It didn't.

I'm a father of three. What makes me 'a real man' is looking after them, and making them the best human beings they can be, not resorting to alpha male/female bullshit.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"I have seen said video, as Facebook decided, because of my age, it would appeal. It didn't.

I'm a father of three. What makes me 'a real man' is looking after them, and making them the best human beings they can be, not resorting to alpha male/female bullshit. "

Spot on Well said mate

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"I have seen said video, as Facebook decided, because of my age, it would appeal. It didn't.

I'm a father of three. What makes me 'a real man' is looking after them, and making them the best human beings they can be, not resorting to alpha male/female bullshit. "

That's awesome and I'm glad that you are. But what about those who can't have children? All men are real men regardless of how they look, how much they earn, what they own etc etc.

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"I have seen said video, as Facebook decided, because of my age, it would appeal. It didn't.

I'm a father of three. What makes me 'a real man' is looking after them, and making them the best human beings they can be, not resorting to alpha male/female bullshit.

That's awesome and I'm glad that you are. But what about those who can't have children? All men are real men regardless of how they look, how much they earn, what they own etc etc. "

I was speaking about myself, but you are of course correct. As you normally can only reference what you've experienced.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Just the term "Real Man" is toxic masculinity at it's worst.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"Just the term "Real Man" is toxic masculinity at it's worst."

makes me

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"I have seen said video, as Facebook decided, because of my age, it would appeal. It didn't.

I'm a father of three. What makes me 'a real man' is looking after them, and making them the best human beings they can be, not resorting to alpha male/female bullshit.

That's awesome and I'm glad that you are. But what about those who can't have children? All men are real men regardless of how they look, how much they earn, what they own etc etc.

I was speaking about myself, but you are of course correct. As you normally can only reference what you've experienced. "

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Toxic masculinity

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By *eardedwonder999Man
over a year ago

Worcester

Pretty much fed up of how social tell is how we should look and breathe.. i really worry about the younger generation and what that is meant to look like ..

I know I'm a real man thats all need to care about and I'm going to be a role model for my kids not these so called influencers

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By *riving_Home_For_MimiWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

A moustache and a wet t-shirt you say? I might need to have a look...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The issue is people follow, Tate says do what you like because then you are empowered which is anarchic and should be ignored because in reality you cannot do what the fuck you like, it’s immoral, Jordan Peterson says get your life together and be a upstanding member of society, historically men are leaned on for strength and wisdom so become that, which is all good and well but what if your life is actually falling apart and you don’t have that in you at that time, what he really means is at some point you should try to become the best version of yourself but social media being what it is it’s constant misinterpretation as they ran it down the throats of young minds saying you have to do it and do it now, which if you do good for you but if you do it later in life good for you, it’s time and social media has no concept of time and waiting for the right moment or having a break or any of that, I fear for the younger generations

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By *avinaTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Transsexual Transylvania

I feel that I can safely assert that I'm not bothered about whether I'm a Real Man (patent pending) or not.

I think I'll pop my tight leggings and some heels on for a bit.

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By *urge72Man
over a year ago

oxfordshire & Hull


" Pretty much fed up of how social tell is how we should look and breathe.. i really worry about the younger generation and what that is meant to look like ..

I know I'm a real man thats all need to care about and I'm going to be a role model for my kids not these so called influencers"

Totally agree. The poison peddled by the likes of the Tates and the blanket advice sold is just an unethical marketing ploy. Positive role models can be found at home, it's just down to us parents to teach sons/nephews how to respect girls and that energy for fighting should be channelled down positive routes.

Scoolgirls need to learn that photo filters and the like present images that they should not measure themselves by. And how many of us have bumped into 'plain or gawky' girls after we left school only to be bowled over by the beautiful women they have become. Let us define our kids and not some attention seeking influencers, after all we are the real men and women.

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