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By *ame-room-no-swap OP   Couple
over a year ago

Taunton

Anyone do this ? I've just started off 400 Ltrs. Going to be about 7-7.5%

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By *ambertMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I used to a few years back, moved in to distilling as well not had the space since my breakup though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From Taunton too. Somerset cider is the best, save me a gallon or two

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By *ave38ukMan
over a year ago

haverhill


"Anyone do this ? I've just started off 400 Ltrs. Going to be about 7-7.5%"

have done this but turned out a lot stronger than that lol

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By *ame-room-no-swap OP   Couple
over a year ago

Taunton


"I used to a few years back, moved in to distilling as well not had the space since my breakup though "

Made some Calvados then as well ? I do this with the remainder as well

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I like the cider it helps me to ride her but most of all I like the vino

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By *ame-room-no-swap OP   Couple
3 weeks ago

Taunton

A quick bump. Got another 400 Ltr going, should be about 6.5% abv. Any other cider makes done any this year ?

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By *night in armourMan
3 weeks ago

stafford

I could help you drink it lol

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By *tealthbomber2024Man
3 weeks ago

southend-on-sea

Id probably end up growing a mould drink due to inattention.

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By *ripfillMan
3 weeks ago

havant


"Anyone do this ? I've just started off 400 Ltrs. Going to be about 7-7.5%"

I love making cider

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By *ripfillMan
3 weeks ago

havant

I have been making cider for years but not using only natural air born yeasts

I generally make 200/250 liters per year from proper cider apples the key one being Kingston’ black

I

Now have a still to fractionally distill the excess cider into calvados

My cider at best using a hygrometer is approx 6.5/7% max

This is so dependent on weather conditions

Brilliant to know there are other fab cider makers

😇😵‍💫

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By *rNaughty84Man
3 weeks ago

Derby

Still got a couple of blackberry ciders I made over the summer

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By *tealthbomber2024Man
3 weeks ago

southend-on-sea

I can drink 3x 500ml 5% ciders without much feeling (for the nice flavour change) and I don't drink. Is this weird?

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By *ripfillMan
3 weeks ago

havant

Thanks OP for posting on this topic. !

Do you ride Harley’s too … that would be a full house lol !

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By *ame-room-no-swap OP   Couple
2 weeks ago

Taunton


"I have been making cider for years but not using only natural air born yeasts

I generally make 200/250 liters per year from proper cider apples the key one being Kingston’ black

I

Now have a still to fractionally distill the excess cider into calvados

My cider at best using a hygrometer is approx 6.5/7% max

This is so dependent on weather conditions

Brilliant to know there are other fab cider makers

😇😵‍💫"

Sounds good. How do you ‘age’ the calvados ?

I have Kingston Black, Dabinett, Major, Yarlington and Sweet Alford in my orchard

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By *oiluvfunMan
2 weeks ago

Penrith

I cut my two trees back too much last year, so barely any fruit this year. Hopefully a bigger crop next year, so far I’ve only been generating 17-18 litres of juice, but I am refining my processing, so hopefully more efficient, and therefore more cider as a result! I do find it a chuckle, making alcohol from something growing in your garden

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"I cut my two trees back too much last year, so barely any fruit this year. Hopefully a bigger crop next year, so far I’ve only been generating 17-18 litres of juice, but I am refining my processing, so hopefully more efficient, and therefore more cider as a result! I do find it a chuckle, making alcohol from something growing in your garden "

You can freeze the juice for normal consumption ideally in cleaned out plastic milk containers but allows for expansion. !

It stop the yeasts working … it’s easier than a Baum Marie

Enjoy cider making though … it’s great fun and get the family involved too

See if you can borrow the kit for your first year

Check on face book. Market place

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"I have been making cider for years but not using only natural air born yeasts

I generally make 200/250 liters per year from proper cider apples the key one being Kingston’ black

I

Now have a still to fractionally distill the excess cider into calvados

My cider at best using a hygrometer is approx 6.5/7% max

This is so dependent on weather conditions

Brilliant to know there are other fab cider makers

😇😵‍💫

Sounds good. How do you ‘age’ the calvados ?

I have Kingston Black, Dabinett, Major, Yarlington and Sweet Alford in my orchard "

Oak barrels ideally you need a ferkin or a hogs head oak ( had to be ) either European or American white oak

Ideally once used for port or brandy

Ideally 5 + years

You can get the barrels but it’s vital for very obvious Reasons they are filled with water highly let the oak staves sit filled to the top to create a water tight seal

Then empty if satisfied

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By *relandgentMan
2 weeks ago

city

Made it a few years ago using natural yeasts...fatal error is that underfloor heating encouraged other yeasts and fungi in the batch to prevail making the stuff undrinkable! You learn from your mistakes!

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"I have been making cider for years but not using only natural air born yeasts

I generally make 200/250 liters per year from proper cider apples the key one being Kingston’ black

I

Now have a still to fractionally distill the excess cider into calvados

My cider at best using a hygrometer is approx 6.5/7% max

This is so dependent on weather conditions

Brilliant to know there are other fab cider makers

😇😵‍💫

Sounds good. How do you ‘age’ the calvados ?

I have Kingston Black, Dabinett, Major, Yarlington and Sweet Alford in my orchard

Oak barrels ideally you need a ferkin or a hogs head oak ( had to be ) either European or American white oak

Ideally once used for port or brandy

Ideally 5 + years

You can get the barrels but it’s vital for very obvious Reasons they are filled with water highly let the oak staves sit filled to the top to create a water tight seal

Then empty if satisfied

Those apples are excellent

have Kingston Black, Dabinett, Major, Yarlington and Sweet Alford in my orchard

The Kingston black is considered to be the crowning glory

I have this plus 6 others inc Kate which is excellent

Do you use some extra sugar to get a fizz on secondary fermentation?

"

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By *rthur30Man
2 weeks ago

Warrington


"I have been making cider for years but not using only natural air born yeasts

I generally make 200/250 liters per year from proper cider apples the key one being Kingston’ black

I

Now have a still to fractionally distill the excess cider into calvados

My cider at best using a hygrometer is approx 6.5/7% max

HMRC?

This is so dependent on weather conditions

Brilliant to know there are other fab cider makers

😇😵‍💫"

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"Made it a few years ago using natural yeasts...fatal error is that underfloor heating encouraged other yeasts and fungi in the batch to prevail making the stuff undrinkable! You learn from your mistakes!"

Interesting … did you have a proper seal on your fermenting barrel?

Did the air lock get contaminated?

If all those are spot on they it must be the hygiene issue … like using Milton in the prep process

Natural yeasts work well at temps above 16degres c

Ideally 18- 20

Under floor heating max at 25/26 which would only accelerate the fermentation I think

I found be wrong

Anyway …. Please doing give up as the thread suggests alcohol for free … from your garden !!

It still amazes me !

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By *oiluvfunMan
2 weeks ago

Penrith


"I cut my two trees back too much last year, so barely any fruit this year. Hopefully a bigger crop next year, so far I’ve only been generating 17-18 litres of juice, but I am refining my processing, so hopefully more efficient, and therefore more cider as a result! I do find it a chuckle, making alcohol from something growing in your garden

You can freeze the juice for normal consumption ideally in cleaned out plastic milk containers but allows for expansion. !

It stop the yeasts working … it’s easier than a Baum Marie

Enjoy cider making though … it’s great fun and get the family involved too

See if you can borrow the kit for your first year

Check on face book. Market place

"

I've made two batches so far, two years apart due to my trees still being fairly young and not producing every year. Each time I ended up with 35 500ml bottles of approx 6.2%, the second batch I left 6 bottles for almost a year to see the difference in flavour, and it was fantastic!

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By *ame-room-no-swap OP   Couple
2 weeks ago

Taunton


"Made it a few years ago using natural yeasts...fatal error is that underfloor heating encouraged other yeasts and fungi in the batch to prevail making the stuff undrinkable! You learn from your mistakes!"

My personal choice now is not to let the natural yeast do the fermentation, in my experience in the past I've had some unpredictable results, so I use a specific cider yeast.

These are designed to give better levels of achohol and less methanol and malic acid. I make a 'pitch' with the cider yeast beforehand so it will dominate over the natural yeasts.

Just my preference to do it like this, everyone has different ways they make their cider. Over the years I think I've got better at judging the blend etc, so now it comes out pretty smooth and tasty.

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By *tew008Man
2 weeks ago

edinburgh

I’ve not done a cider this year just bottled a bunch off tepache and a braggot that’s designed off the old berserker drinks

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By *vaRose43Woman
2 weeks ago

Forest of Dean

Not a maker but I do benefit from a few cases of cider from a local maker who gets duck eggs from me and then pays in cider

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By *apidaryMan
2 weeks ago

Chipping Norton


"Not a maker but I do benefit from a few cases of cider from a local maker who gets duck eggs from me and then pays in cider "

Summons up images of rural bliss, with a cast of Richard Briers, Felicity Kendal, Penelope Keith & Paul Eddington.

My apples this year have become chutney or sauce.

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"Made it a few years ago using natural yeasts...fatal error is that underfloor heating encouraged other yeasts and fungi in the batch to prevail making the stuff undrinkable! You learn from your mistakes!

My personal choice now is not to let the natural yeast do the fermentation, in my experience in the past I've had some unpredictable results, so I use a specific cider yeast.

These are designed to give better levels of achohol and less methanol and malic acid. I make a 'pitch' with the cider yeast beforehand so it will dominate over the natural yeasts.

Just my preference to do it like this, everyone has different ways they make their cider. Over the years I think I've got better at judging the blend etc, so now it comes out pretty smooth and tasty.

Absolutely right … it’s predictable and with all the effort you need to naked sure there is a bounty at the end of it all

I have gone back to au natural again. !

Till I have to pour away gallons …. Then it will

Low temp champagne yeasts or type specific cider yeasts

"

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"I cut my two trees back too much last year, so barely any fruit this year. Hopefully a bigger crop next year, so far I’ve only been generating 17-18 litres of juice, but I am refining my processing, so hopefully more efficient, and therefore more cider as a result! I do find it a chuckle, making alcohol from something growing in your garden

👍

You can freeze the juice for normal consumption ideally in cleaned out plastic milk containers but allows for expansion. !

It stop the yeasts working … it’s easier than a Baum Marie

Enjoy cider making though … it’s great fun and get the family involved too

See if you can borrow the kit for your first year

Check on face book. Market place

I've made two batches so far, two years apart due to my trees still being fairly young and not producing every year. Each time I ended up with 35 500ml bottles of approx 6.2%, the second batch I left 6 bottles for almost a year to see the difference in flavour, and it was fantastic! "

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By *ripfillMan
2 weeks ago

havant


"Not a maker but I do benefit from a few cases of cider from a local maker who gets duck eggs from me and then pays in cider "

A most excellent barter ! Well done

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