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"Has there been a sudden newsflash on this? I don't watch the news at all so genuinely curious." There was a puff of smoke all of a sudden | |||
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"No surprise. I think the only difference is voting doesn't smell as foul. I believe some time ago Japanese investigators found vaping to be as harmful as regular smoking." Vaping! Ffs | |||
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"I just want to gather all smokers, look them in the eye and tell them.. 'Why don't you just drink poison'" You mean like alcohol? LvM | |||
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"I just want to gather all smokers, look them in the eye and tell them.. 'Why don't you just drink poison' You mean like alcohol? LvM" Exactly | |||
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"So.. It’s not safe after all? Who'd have thought, filling your lungs with foreign bodies would have consequences? " *pretends to be shocked* | |||
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"So.. Its not safe after all? Who'd have thought, filling your lungs with foreign bodies would have consequences? " It should be banned, but that sadly just makes people use other substances. I gave up smoking 20 years ago and didn't do all this nonsense and never felt better. You are what you consume. | |||
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"I like when a thread like this comes up. It prompts me to go look at my counters. 4 months 2 weeks off of nicotine. 9 months, 29 days and 22 hours since I smoked a cigarette!!! I'm about to hit double figures. I wouldn't have looked otherwise. " Well done you! | |||
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"That was sponsored by the cigarette industry and has been shown to be bollocks " I see you've never heard of EVALI then K | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? " It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. " Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell " Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell " Agreed, sort of. I've never done drugs (I think I'm too intelligent for that), I've gambled at a race course but couldn't care less whether I'd do it again or not, I drink when I want to not when I need to (big difference) but smoking / vaping ! I feel sorry for the people who are so desperate for it before getting on a train, standing outside in the rain and cold ! Very very sad | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. " Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Agreed, sort of. I've never done drugs (I think I'm too intelligent for that), I've gambled at a race course but couldn't care less whether I'd do it again or not, I drink when I want to not when I need to (big difference) but smoking / vaping ! I feel sorry for the people who are so desperate for it before getting on a train, standing outside in the rain and cold ! Very very sad " Yeah I know what you mean. I think that now but I was that person. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that " And with vaping, people may have the choice to have less or no nicotine, thus reducing their chemical dependency on it. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.." No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that And with vaping, people may have the choice to have less or no nicotine, thus reducing their chemical dependency on it. " Don't agree with that. When people smoke they are restricting their daily puff based on what they can or can't afford but I've watched people who vape and they are on it continuously! This can't be doing them any good whatsoever? | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that And with vaping, people may have the choice to have less or no nicotine, thus reducing their chemical dependency on it. " Like i say its all about chemical and physical dependency, its also larger partly to do with the cognitive side of addiction, probably more so than the physical | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” " This | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that And with vaping, people may have the choice to have less or no nicotine, thus reducing their chemical dependency on it. Don't agree with that. When people smoke they are restricting their daily puff based on what they can or can't afford but I've watched people who vape and they are on it continuously! This can't be doing them any good whatsoever?" My buddy says the same thing. He’ll limit himself to 3 cigs at work but with a vape he just hits it all the time Probably taking in more nicotine overall, but I dunno if that’s better for you than less nicotine but all the other stuff ciggies have | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” " Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! " Not really Try this drug, oh wow I got fucked up and had a really funny night with my friends, let’s do that again. There’s a reason they are called party drugs I tell you what you never heard from a 15 year old taking their first big hit on a Marlborough super king behind the bike sheds “Oh I tell you what, that’s bloody lovely!” | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” " I totally understand where your coming from and I can only speak from my own experiences..When I was younger it was a cool thing to do and popular and by the time you grew up and realised it wasn’t very cool you were already addicted .. I’m glad that smoking isn’t a cool thing anymore quite the opposite however it is worrying when I see kids as young as 12 vaping as it was designed to help people stop smoking however it has simply replaced fags in being a cool thing to do with younger kids .. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” I totally understand where your coming from and I can only speak from my own experiences..When I was younger it was a cool thing to do and popular and by the time you grew up and realised it wasn’t very cool you were already addicted .. I’m glad that smoking isn’t a cool thing anymore quite the opposite however it is worrying when I see kids as young as 12 vaping as it was designed to help people stop smoking however it has simply replaced fags in being a cool thing to do with younger kids .." Absolutely, it’s just to be cool. Weird to think of a bunch of kids all stood around sucking on cigs they don’t like, but they don’t want to just admit it and not do it. Gotta look cool. It’s great that it’s going out of fashion. I wouldn’t date anyone that smokes and I know it’s a big no for many people now. Vaping is probably the next best step in the right direction | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! " A special kind of stupid, so I'm a special kind of stupid am due to thr addiction I had. Bit whatever you do don't acknowledge the root causes of addictions that keep people entrenched, please juat be aware thr majority of people suffer with some form of addiction, guess what that includes you, so are you a special kind of stupid as well? | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! A special kind of stupid, so I'm a special kind of stupid am due to thr addiction I had. Bit whatever you do don't acknowledge the root causes of addictions that keep people entrenched, please juat be aware thr majority of people suffer with some form of addiction, guess what that includes you, so are you a special kind of stupid as well? " Definitely not as I've never touched drugs | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! A special kind of stupid, so I'm a special kind of stupid am due to thr addiction I had. Bit whatever you do don't acknowledge the root causes of addictions that keep people entrenched, please juat be aware thr majority of people suffer with some form of addiction, guess what that includes you, so are you a special kind of stupid as well? Definitely not as I've never touched drugs " So, addiction only comes in the form or substances or drink does it?, I'd say that's a pretty special kinda stupid.... | |||
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"That was sponsored by the cigarette industry and has been shown to be bollocks I see you've never heard of EVALI then K" I bet you £10k that you can't find 1 legitimate e-liquid in the uk that contains e-acetate, aka vitamin E. Evali was only identified in a couple of US states and that was attributed to counterfit thc cartridges and not every e-liquid. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! A special kind of stupid, so I'm a special kind of stupid am due to thr addiction I had. Bit whatever you do don't acknowledge the root causes of addictions that keep people entrenched, please juat be aware thr majority of people suffer with some form of addiction, guess what that includes you, so are you a special kind of stupid as well? Definitely not as I've never touched drugs So, addiction only comes in the form or substances or drink does it?, I'd say that's a pretty special kinda stupid...." Strange comment? I think I will leave it there | |||
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"Vaping is incredibly dangerous because it is targeted towards kids. The flavours, the colours and the trendy brands of the disposal ones are very tempting. Plus they are thrown all over the streets, many with the contents still inside. I'd never smoke as I cannot inhale but I've started vaping because of sensory needs/oral fixation. I just suck the vape in and blow it out. The taste and sensation is very satisfying and I'm a 50 year old woman. The government don't give a flying fuck as long as its taxable and that money keeps rolling in. It's a product that should not exist but somehow its got the go ahead - same as energy drinks. " Energy drinks is a funny one Sugar (or sugar free ones) + some flavour + caffeine Let’s ban coffee while we’re at it. Not to mention that the sugar tax on soft drinks don’t even apply to sugar free energy drinks so the idea that the government is profiting off them is some conspiracy level misinformation The government can’t be responsible for everything unless we want to give up all our freedoms. At some point we have to hind ourselves responsible for the choices we make. While also balancing the powers we allow the government to keep us safe and protected | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! " Ouch. Peer pressure, curiosity, ‘it won’t happen to me’, dealing with life’s crap and the hundreds of other reasons people try drugs. Addictions in general and drugs in particular don’t just happen to stupid people. | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Smoking always been a weird one to me though because you don’t get anything from it Alcohol is fun, gambling is fun, lots of drugs are fun I tried smoking and didn’t get it. No high or buzz. Just coughing and a bad taste + smell Regardless of if it’s fun or not it’s still a addiction, I don’t think people or their families that take hard drugs just to function will say it’s fun or alcoholics that get the shakes in the morning if they don’t get a drink.. No ones saying it isn’t, I just don’t understand it addictions don’t appear out of no where and I don’t see how anyone can try a cigarette and think “wow I’ll keep doing this” Same as drug users. Imagine the scenario. "Hey, want to try these drugs? They will take over your life, use up all your money, you will end up stealing just to pay for your addiction and eventually they will kill you" who the hell says yes to that? A special kind of stupid ! A special kind of stupid, so I'm a special kind of stupid am due to thr addiction I had. Bit whatever you do don't acknowledge the root causes of addictions that keep people entrenched, please juat be aware thr majority of people suffer with some form of addiction, guess what that includes you, so are you a special kind of stupid as well? Definitely not as I've never touched drugs So, addiction only comes in the form or substances or drink does it?, I'd say that's a pretty special kinda stupid.... Strange comment? I think I will leave it there " | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that " well said. There are lots of reasons people start, some maybe less understandable than others. However, when addiction has a hold it is no longer simply a choice. | |||
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"There is plenty of evidence to suggest that addiction has a genetic component, but it is now also being suggested that the behaviour of mothers while carrying their babies may also play a huge part. Besides the genetic factor there are many psychological factors . It doesn't matter what kind of substance we are using or consuming...as long as it hits and overwhelms our pleasure circuit ,easily can change our pathways and become an addiction. Even food! I don't believe that there are many people that are not addicted to something. As for vaping...it's definitely a harmful addiction ." Someone who understands addiction, well said | |||
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"I've always thought that smoking was ridiculous as it costs a fortune, makes you stink really bad and oh yeah, it kills you! Am I missing something that makes it appealing? but this vaping thing WTF is that all about ?? It’s an addiction though. I can’t understand how people drink themselves into oblivion, choose alcohol over their families. People who gamble everything away. People who take any kind of d*ugs. If you don’t do it you’ll never understand it. Please remember with addiction its not a choice when it becomes addiction, ppl don't choice to put that addiction over everything else, there a mental obsession and Compulsion to fulfill, amd that urge is indescribable unless yiu e experienced it. I remember times walking to score and really not wanting to use, but just coundnt stop myself feom using.... Addiction isint clear cut valck and white, its not juat a case of saying no I'm not doing this today, it's alot deeper than that well said. There are lots of reasons people start, some maybe less understandable than others. However, when addiction has a hold it is no longer simply a choice." I know you get it | |||
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"Vaping is incredibly dangerous because it is targeted towards kids. The flavours, the colours and the trendy brands of the disposal ones are very tempting. Plus they are thrown all over the streets, many with the contents still inside. I'd never smoke as I cannot inhale but I've started vaping because of sensory needs/oral fixation. I just suck the vape in and blow it out. The taste and sensation is very satisfying and I'm a 50 year old woman. The government don't give a flying fuck as long as its taxable and that money keeps rolling in. It's a product that should not exist but somehow its got the go ahead - same as energy drinks. Energy drinks is a funny one Sugar (or sugar free ones) + some flavour + caffeine Let’s ban coffee while we’re at it. Not to mention that the sugar tax on soft drinks don’t even apply to sugar free energy drinks so the idea that the government is profiting off them is some conspiracy level misinformation The government can’t be responsible for everything unless we want to give up all our freedoms. At some point we have to hind ourselves responsible for the choices we make. While also balancing the powers we allow the government to keep us safe and protected " If you can't see a difference between coffee and energy drinks then I can't help you. Carry on the good work of pissing on people's posts though. You have found your niche ;-p | |||
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"Vaping is incredibly dangerous because it is targeted towards kids. The flavours, the colours and the trendy brands of the disposal ones are very tempting. Plus they are thrown all over the streets, many with the contents still inside. I'd never smoke as I cannot inhale but I've started vaping because of sensory needs/oral fixation. I just suck the vape in and blow it out. The taste and sensation is very satisfying and I'm a 50 year old woman. The government don't give a flying fuck as long as its taxable and that money keeps rolling in. It's a product that should not exist but somehow its got the go ahead - same as energy drinks. Energy drinks is a funny one Sugar (or sugar free ones) + some flavour + caffeine Let’s ban coffee while we’re at it. Not to mention that the sugar tax on soft drinks don’t even apply to sugar free energy drinks so the idea that the government is profiting off them is some conspiracy level misinformation The government can’t be responsible for everything unless we want to give up all our freedoms. At some point we have to hind ourselves responsible for the choices we make. While also balancing the powers we allow the government to keep us safe and protected If you can't see a difference between coffee and energy drinks then I can't help you. Carry on the good work of pissing on people's posts though. You have found your niche ;-p " I can see the difference, one is usually served hot and other is usually served cold I can’t, however, see how someone could place them in the “they shouldn’t exist” category based on a dislike of smoking and vaping Too each their own I guess, it would be silly of me to expect everyone on the internet back up their views and opinions with some logic, or indeed anything at all, but that’s my mistake | |||
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"I'm far too busy enjoying my life to care what others choose to inhale / drink / eat / insert..Anyone preoccupied with what other people do lawfully probably have too much time on their hands and not enough real problems of their own to worry about. Mr" But not too busy to invest your time to comment. Understood. | |||
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"So.. Its not safe after all? Who'd have thought, filling your lungs with foreign bodies would have consequences? " I'm not sure anyone ever said it was safe, just safer than smoking... and it still appears to be. Cal | |||
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"I like when a thread like this comes up. It prompts me to go look at my counters. 4 months 2 weeks off of nicotine. 9 months, 29 days and 22 hours since I smoked a cigarette!!! I'm about to hit double figures. I wouldn't have looked otherwise. " Congratulations, you’re doing really well!! | |||
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"So.. Its not safe after all? Who'd have thought, filling your lungs with foreign bodies would have consequences? I'm not sure anyone ever said it was safe, just safer than smoking... and it still appears to be. Cal" They did though. And now this.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67081855 | |||
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