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"It's made me even more cynical than I was before tbh but fortunately that doesn't spill over into the real world, it just makes me way more wary of ppl on here.. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is " this for me. I've found fab has more than its fair share of narcissistic characters and people that prey on any vulnerability. I'm normally pretty confident myself and able to quickly avoid some people but some past experiences make me wary x | |||
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"Yes. Being on fab has made me realise most people over the age of 30 are not my people and are really judgemental of people under 30 But charge it to the game. Adjust. Keep it stepping. Stick to what’s familiar and what you know. " Honestly, the youf of today, no respect for their elders and betters. Go and stand in the corner and do not speak until you are spoken to. | |||
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"The behaviour of others on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? " I like the people on Fab that I have met or that I chat to - they are interesting, from wildly different backgrounds, have great experiences, and are not the type of people that I get to meet through work or my normal social set. Then again, there are a lot of people on Fab who I would never want to meet and many of them are either on my block list or they have blocked me. It does not make me cynical or jaded, rather they represent a cross section of society that you see on TV and are quite happy that you do not have to meet them in real life (but then they probably feel the same about me if I even register on their radar). | |||
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"It's made me even more cynical than I was before tbh but fortunately that doesn't spill over into the real world, it just makes me way more wary of ppl on here.. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is " Ah being more rational (I won't use the word cynical!) isn't necessarily a bad thing on here. Seems too good to be true can be true. Sometimes. Maybe. I think I'm just optimistically naive. :D | |||
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"I usually begin from the starting point of having a pretty low opinion on people in general. If they prove me wrong, I'm delighted. Though not many change that school of thinking on here or in normal life." Do you not think that could be because you're approaching it from a place of low opinions? I've not explained it very well but I think negativity can breed it sometimes. If you're more open to positivity, positive yourself you might find more are like that with you. This is armchair psychology though! :D | |||
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"I’ve always looked for the good in people, the bright side.. assumed everyone’s intentions are honest and true. The people around me in the real world are absolutely those things. Most have been around for a very long time. So outside of here I still hope for the best. Here it’s a different story. Too many people have not been honest. Several have made choices that have affected me negatively. Everything fab related is now at arms length. If I wouldn’t accept behaviours in everyday life, I’m certainly not going to accept them here. It’s been good to step back and see things clearly. Life is good with or without fab. " It really is Saff. I'm sorry you've had to experience those behaviours though; it's crappy isn't it? Sometimes stepping away from it, focusing on real world issues, enjoying life helps remind you of what's important. A wise shovel handed friend told me very similar - he doesn't understand how day to day I'm quite a boss ass bitch but then put up with behaviour on here that in the real world I wouldn't dream of entertaining. It was enough of a wake up call for me to start affirming my boundaries, stop being a rehab centre for those who are broken and badly behaved. | |||
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"The behaviour of men has made me realise I am in fact happy to be single. The behaviour of women has made me realise I do prefer penis. " Quite literally between a rock and a hard place! | |||
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"on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? I've been thinking about this over the past few days, about how we respond when we face certain things. The knock on effect it can have, if any. So, has being on Fab made you see people in a different light? Whether good or bad. " I have more nostagia then when I first started (and yes you can have nostalgia for things you never experienced - tangent). This is something me and my freind discussed this last week. Fab for us was new exciting that had the potential to open and expand sexual horizons providing sexual liberty, get over exes etc. However we had both been on here a long time. So the site holds a certain sense of nostalgia. Asthetically the site looks like it is stuck on 2000s. Talking about myself now, it has opened my eyes and made me more toleranting and understanding. I have gained freinds. I have people who thought were freinds and we have drifted apart or maybe I did not read the mood on in the room I dunno. Maybe I need to work my way of fab. I know there may come a time where I probably meet someone and they are not interested in poly and swinging. My priorities will change and fab will be a distant memory that would put a rye smile on points face, when I either feeling lonely or horny or both. | |||
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"I find it interesting how lots is people post that they want to get to know people but the simply judge everyone in looks in the first place. And there is no sense of humor,like at all " I think people want to get to know those they're attracted to mainly. On the forums it might be different, actually, no, it is. Humour is subjective; what one person finds hilarious another will find dreary or in poor taste. | |||
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"I think it's made me a lot more cynical and aware of my age and skin colour more than it ever has before. I think people can be very fickle and can change their mind on a dime about a person simply because of the other options that are out there and the idea that you need a thick skin is very dismissive of how we treat human beings on the other side of a screen. Saying that though, I've still met loads of lovely people and had great experiences which represent the highest of highs, but if they're so few and far between, it makes you wonder if it's worth the lows as a result of other people." Ach, this sounds wank Joe. I do think sometimes people forget there's a real person behind the words on the screen - would people behave/say certain things if face to face with another? Highly unlikely. It's the negative side of relative anonymity. I hope the great experiences outweigh the less than for you soon, x | |||
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"I'm going to take a slightly different tack and say my behaviour on fab has shown me a lot about me over the years! I think holding yourself accountable can be challenging at times. I think it's easy to get swept up in the idea of something rather than the reality. I think very few things are forever. Situations change, people change, relationships change. I can sometimes be guilty of holding on to things beyond the point at which I should have let go. Would I change it? Hell no. Mrs TMN x" Ah holding yourself accountable is important isn't it? Not to the extent where you believe things that aren't true (you don't need to gaslight yourself when there are plenty here who'll do that for you). It's more... acknowledging and understanding where you're not picture perfect. I've been guilty of similar in the past. I don't like giving up on people. I don't like making people feel bad. So I choose to believe the promises, look for the ideal rather than the reality. I've become far better this past year at knowing when things are no longer bringing me joy. And letting go when they're not. I don't think I'd change my Fab experience. I like what I've learnt about myself. Maybe being cheated on? Everything else though? I don't know. I'm still an optimist and think Fab isn't that bad really, regardless of my experiences. Anyway, I'm glad you did a different slant on it! Very interesting, thanks NipNips. | |||
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"I'm going to take a slightly different tack and say my behaviour on fab has shown me a lot about me over the years! I think holding yourself accountable can be challenging at times. I think it's easy to get swept up in the idea of something rather than the reality. I think very few things are forever. Situations change, people change, relationships change. I can sometimes be guilty of holding on to things beyond the point at which I should have let go. Would I change it? Hell no. Mrs TMN x" That’s a very good, bloody point!! | |||
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"I'm going to take a slightly different tack and say my behaviour on fab has shown me a lot about me over the years! I think holding yourself accountable can be challenging at times. I think it's easy to get swept up in the idea of something rather than the reality. I think very few things are forever. Situations change, people change, relationships change. I can sometimes be guilty of holding on to things beyond the point at which I should have let go. Would I change it? Hell no. Mrs TMN x" I made mistakes on here and I learned a lot about myself and my relationship with my wife from being on here. I found a lot of like minded people on fab, some of whom I became very strong friends with. There are some really wonderful people on here who have a lot to offer. Fab promotes a form of intimacy that's unique in many ways. We can learn a lot about people from photos, forum posts and other interactions that we don't get anywhere else. That unique intimacy can be misleading tho. Because even though its more intimate than other forms of interaction its still only an aspect of people's lives. We all know people on here who post sexual photos and are hurting in real life even as they pretend all is well. It can be a hard place to be when your head isn't in the right place. Ultimately fab taught me that I'm not built for social media. Even one that made me feel welcomed and seen. | |||
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"I'm going to take a slightly different tack and say my behaviour on fab has shown me a lot about me over the years! I think holding yourself accountable can be challenging at times. I think it's easy to get swept up in the idea of something rather than the reality. I think very few things are forever. Situations change, people change, relationships change. I can sometimes be guilty of holding on to things beyond the point at which I should have let go. Would I change it? Hell no. Mrs TMN x I made mistakes on here and I learned a lot about myself and my relationship with my wife from being on here. I found a lot of like minded people on fab, some of whom I became very strong friends with. There are some really wonderful people on here who have a lot to offer. Fab promotes a form of intimacy that's unique in many ways. We can learn a lot about people from photos, forum posts and other interactions that we don't get anywhere else. That unique intimacy can be misleading tho. Because even though its more intimate than other forms of interaction its still only an aspect of people's lives. We all know people on here who post sexual photos and are hurting in real life even as they pretend all is well. It can be a hard place to be when your head isn't in the right place. Ultimately fab taught me that I'm not built for social media. Even one that made me feel welcomed and seen. " Thank you for being so honest and open. I totally get this. Fab for many is an escape, it definitely is for me at times. It can be an intoxicating environment. Sorting the real from the make believe isn't always easy. Mrs TMN x | |||
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"on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? I've been thinking about this over the past few days, about how we respond when we face certain things. The knock on effect it can have, if any. So, has being on Fab made you see people in a different light? Whether good or bad. " For me, FAB is meant to be a place of fun, however, I recognise that for others it's a platform to display their character or chosen facade. I see a lot of judgemental people and negative language which isn't my vibe so I guess FAB puts me into the space of people I wouldn't associate with in real life In some ways, it has made me very grateful for the folk in my life and thankful for the positive energy around me | |||
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"on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? I've been thinking about this over the past few days, about how we respond when we face certain things. The knock on effect it can have, if any. So, has being on Fab made you see people in a different light? Whether good or bad. " Not really done anything. People are pretty okay, generally. Just lowered my expectations of a sex site. I had assumed that this was a fuck fest but did not take into account how bad people feel about their choices or their lack of control. | |||
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"Reflecting on this being on fab, the forums specifically, has taught me a lot. I’m not sure I like people very much or am trusting of people anymore. After all this place is made up of the people you pass on the street and in the office. " And yet I've found the complete opposite.. I've met so many amazing people on here and friends | |||
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"I'm not cynical by nature but I've had my eyes opened by the behaviour of certain individuals on here which then has a knock on effect when I read forum comments from others. Popularity is definitely an addiction for many. I generally ignore the behaviour of others until they involve me in it directly but I've never enabled it as some often do. " I'm curious. Are these things that have happened to you IRL or is it on here? | |||
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"I'm not cynical by nature but I've had my eyes opened by the behaviour of certain individuals on here which then has a knock on effect when I read forum comments from others. Popularity is definitely an addiction for many. I generally ignore the behaviour of others until they involve me in it directly but I've never enabled it as some often do. I'm curious. Are these things that have happened to you IRL or is it on here?" Only ever on here. In real life people come and go often without leaving a mark but I keep a very tight friendship circle. On here I take the same approach in regard to who I talk to but over the years I've had women use my friendship either as a stepping stone to meet others in my circle or as currency by passing on my personal details to those they wish to ingratiate themselves with. I've witnessed some nasty shit with men indirectly through external chatgroups but they have been very few and far between. Some people really would sell their granny for a fab or an acknowledgement from a fab "celeb" and I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration. I genuinely don't understand their motives but at the same time I don't believe that those who see what they are doing and choose to ignore it are really that hard up for a fuck. | |||
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"on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? I've been thinking about this over the past few days, about how we respond when we face certain things. The knock on effect it can have, if any. So, has being on Fab made you see people in a different light? Whether good or bad. " I'm a lot more cynical. I've been stunned at times, and still am at the way some things have played out. Saying no seems to be a catalyst for shitty behaviours. People think they know what's going on and can see everything when in actual fact they really fucking don't. And they don't get both sides to the stories either yet are quick to comment and judge. Yet are two faced. For a place that I expected to be so open and non Judgemental it's quite the reverse. My trust is more broken, I'm a hell of a lot more jaded. Hence my mojo packing its bags. Yet I wish I could speak the truth and clear my side in all the crap, but I know I shouldn't waste my energy. I swear to god you could sit in the sahara without a device and still things would happen. | |||
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"Reflecting on this being on fab, the forums specifically, has taught me a lot. I’m not sure I like people very much or am trusting of people anymore. After all this place is made up of the people you pass on the street and in the office. " I try not to judge people by this forum. Essentially it's a place of distinct and often rather esoteric friendship or 'respect' groups of all kinds. I don't find that side to it super clever (it's often very dumb), but it is what it is and was always going to be a bit like that here. I found the forum unusable when I first joined Fabswingers, but it's better than in was I think (though it's still a bit intimidating, ageist, reactionary and plain snotty at times!) People behave a lot better in real life than online anyway imo. Although that only goes for so much I know. pt | |||
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"Reflecting on this being on fab, the forums specifically, has taught me a lot. I’m not sure I like people very much or am trusting of people anymore. After all this place is made up of the people you pass on the street and in the office. I try not to judge people by this forum. Essentially it's a place of distinct and often rather esoteric friendship or 'respect' groups of all kinds. I don't find that side to it super clever (it's often very dumb), but it is what it is and was always going to be a bit like that here. I found the forum unusable when I first joined Fabswingers, but it's better than in was I think (though it's still a bit intimidating, ageist, reactionary and plain snotty at times!) People behave a lot better in real life than online anyway imo. Although that only goes for so much I know. pt" This is a good analysis. I would say that a lot of these online kink forums end up becoming very esoteric and almost "gatekeepery" by design. There are groups of people who deliberately want to create a shroud of insider language that almost makes you want to connect with them as a way of becoming an "insider" to these groups. The good side of me says it's because they feel the need to protect their communities from who they see as outsiders, a darker side of me will say many of these people want newcomers to try and strive for their approval to be accepted into the 'in-group' of fetishists through any means necessary. | |||
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"I think I still always want to see the best in people and despite being proven wrong countless times, that's just who I am. I can't let myself become jaded or cynical. I can't stand the thought of not having my hopeful romantic notions, even if they never really happen. I've said it a lot but I still belive that the men I've met here are far better for me than the ones I've met elsewhere, perhaps because fab feels more honest? Over the years here, I've certainly changed. Each time I return theres a shift in me, usually a result of life in general. Despite being a big soft hearted romantic, I also still see fab as just (mostly) strangers on the internet. Unless I've gotten to know you very well then it really has, very little impact on my life. " I think that's a lovely way of being though Wyld and one I identify with. I don't think I ever want to be cynical or jaded because it's not me. Misty above spoke about how she liked optimistic Misty. I like myself when I'm optimistic. That's not to say there aren't odd bouts where I wobble but I don't think I'd want Fab to make me jaded. I'd step away before then. | |||
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"Reflecting on this being on fab, the forums specifically, has taught me a lot. I’m not sure I like people very much or am trusting of people anymore. After all this place is made up of the people you pass on the street and in the office. I try not to judge people by this forum. Essentially it's a place of distinct and often rather esoteric friendship or 'respect' groups of all kinds. I don't find that side to it super clever (it's often very dumb), but it is what it is and was always going to be a bit like that here. I found the forum unusable when I first joined Fabswingers, but it's better than in was I think (though it's still a bit intimidating, ageist, reactionary and plain snotty at times!) People behave a lot better in real life than online anyway imo. Although that only goes for so much I know. pt This is a good analysis. I would say that a lot of these online kink forums end up becoming very esoteric and almost "gatekeepery" by design. There are groups of people who deliberately want to create a shroud of insider language that almost makes you want to connect with them as a way of becoming an "insider" to these groups. The good side of me says it's because they feel the need to protect their communities from who they see as outsiders, a darker side of me will say many of these people want newcomers to try and strive for their approval to be accepted into the 'in-group' of fetishists through any means necessary." This an interesting take. A lot of swinger venacular may not actually originate from swinging. For instance 'vanilla'. To mean original,old, normal or boring. In the computer game modding community 'vanilla' means refers to the original base game. I was once reading a review left on UKP. And it read like a completely different language. (Other than getting me annoyed for what I thought was contempt for the lady). It was difficult to get because of sheer number of acronyms. OWO, CIM, A-levels. I find out amazing how you can have two different worlds involving sex online. Yet have two different cultures. | |||
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"It hasn't changed how I view people...on or off of here, I like to approach people with neutrality and form my own opinion about them. What has shocked me is the spitefulness and vindictiveness that some people will stoop to when it comes to sex. No, not just sex, when they think it's something more than sex and assume they have a claim on somebody else. There are some truly vile people that put on a facade of niceness " Good to know I'm not the only one who's experienced this! I chose to rise above and be polite, smile and breathe. It's probably not even about you, you are just the easy target in their view | |||
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"on Fab. Has it changed your perception of people on Fab? Restored your trust? Made you a bit cynical? A bit jaded? Or... more realistic? I've been thinking about this over the past few days, about how we respond when we face certain things. The knock on effect it can have, if any. So, has being on Fab made you see people in a different light? Whether good or bad. I'm a lot more cynical. I've been stunned at times, and still am at the way some things have played out. Saying no seems to be a catalyst for shitty behaviours. People think they know what's going on and can see everything when in actual fact they really fucking don't. And they don't get both sides to the stories either yet are quick to comment and judge. Yet are two faced. For a place that I expected to be so open and non Judgemental it's quite the reverse. My trust is more broken, I'm a hell of a lot more jaded. Hence my mojo packing its bags. Yet I wish I could speak the truth and clear my side in all the crap, but I know I shouldn't waste my energy. I swear to god you could sit in the sahara without a device and still things would happen." People judge sadly. It's the way of the world. I don't think judging is always a bad thing - I'm sure you've done it before without both sides of a story before. That being said, it's crappy that it's led to you being more jaded. Your mojo vanishing. I don't think I'd wish that on anyone. Speaking your truth can be cathartic but... I have a lot of respect for those who don't stoop to airing it on the fora. Things are always going to happen, people will always believe what they want to. At some point you say fuck it and focus on you. Doing what you know is right. Sticking with your boundaries. I hope you're able to find your MOJO soon. Rediscover yourself before the nonsense. x | |||
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"Reflecting on this being on fab, the forums specifically, has taught me a lot. I’m not sure I like people very much or am trusting of people anymore. After all this place is made up of the people you pass on the street and in the office. I try not to judge people by this forum. Essentially it's a place of distinct and often rather esoteric friendship or 'respect' groups of all kinds. I don't find that side to it super clever (it's often very dumb), but it is what it is and was always going to be a bit like that here. I found the forum unusable when I first joined Fabswingers, but it's better than in was I think (though it's still a bit intimidating, ageist, reactionary and plain snotty at times!) People behave a lot better in real life than online anyway imo. Although that only goes for so much I know. pt This is a good analysis. I would say that a lot of these online kink forums end up becoming very esoteric and almost "gatekeepery" by design. There are groups of people who deliberately want to create a shroud of insider language that almost makes you want to connect with them as a way of becoming an "insider" to these groups. The good side of me says it's because they feel the need to protect their communities from who they see as outsiders, a darker side of me will say many of these people want newcomers to try and strive for their approval to be accepted into the 'in-group' of fetishists through any means necessary. " . Whatever the reasons (and it'll largely be somewhere more mundane and 'in the middle' of course) it certainly works for new people. Play the game, 'white knight' for the most confident and receptive players, go after the less popular when you see the chance - it all 'works' for them in terms of what they personally want from here, despite so many other fabbers being immune to it all (the forum is still full of great people of course). Best to either ignore or be amused by such stuff, and of course try not to be caught up in it or irritated when you see it. It's just there because it's there. Like ghosting and such stuff, it comes with the show. pt | |||
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"I'm not cynical by nature but I've had my eyes opened by the behaviour of certain individuals on here which then has a knock on effect when I read forum comments from others. Popularity is definitely an addiction for many. I generally ignore the behaviour of others until they involve me in it directly but I've never enabled it as some often do. I'm curious. Are these things that have happened to you IRL or is it on here? Only ever on here. In real life people come and go often without leaving a mark but I keep a very tight friendship circle. On here I take the same approach in regard to who I talk to but over the years I've had women use my friendship either as a stepping stone to meet others in my circle or as currency by passing on my personal details to those they wish to ingratiate themselves with. I've witnessed some nasty shit with men indirectly through external chatgroups but they have been very few and far between. Some people really would sell their granny for a fab or an acknowledgement from a fab "celeb" and I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration. I genuinely don't understand their motives but at the same time I don't believe that those who see what they are doing and choose to ignore it are really that hard up for a fuck. " Interesting, and while certainly very dramatic, you haven't really said that anyone had done anything terrible. | |||
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"I'm not cynical by nature but I've had my eyes opened by the behaviour of certain individuals on here which then has a knock on effect when I read forum comments from others. Popularity is definitely an addiction for many. I generally ignore the behaviour of others until they involve me in it directly but I've never enabled it as some often do. I'm curious. Are these things that have happened to you IRL or is it on here? Only ever on here. In real life people come and go often without leaving a mark but I keep a very tight friendship circle. On here I take the same approach in regard to who I talk to but over the years I've had women use my friendship either as a stepping stone to meet others in my circle or as currency by passing on my personal details to those they wish to ingratiate themselves with. I've witnessed some nasty shit with men indirectly through external chatgroups but they have been very few and far between. Some people really would sell their granny for a fab or an acknowledgement from a fab "celeb" and I don't say that with any sense of exaggeration. I genuinely don't understand their motives but at the same time I don't believe that those who see what they are doing and choose to ignore it are really that hard up for a fuck. Interesting, and while certainly very dramatic, you haven't really said that anyone had done anything terrible. " You think passing peoples personal details including facepics and places of work is more dramatic than terrible? | |||
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