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"Oh I want to comment but I should just not." I'm curious but thank you for the restraint if it was going to be an assassination. I'm trying to start a difficult conversation. X | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " No. | |||
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"I suspect ethically you can appreciate it’s not on. The real question; however, should be if your morals allow for you to quietly have an affair within your situation/circumstances or not. No one can decide that but you. At the end of the day, there will be many opinions about it but what’s right for you given your own views - in this situation - may or may not align with others views. Doesn’t make one better than the other. It’s simply a product of the human diversity that exists. " I'd like to report plagiarism for this comment! I agree 100% though | |||
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"If you find someone really hot then it's ok. " Fucks sake. I take a few days out and miss the return. Welcome back. | |||
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"If you find someone really hot then it's ok. " • If you find someone mediocre it's still perfectly okay. | |||
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"If you find someone really hot then it's ok. " Will you marry me?? | |||
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"If you get really d*unk and forget about it then it's also okay " And you | |||
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"My ex wife was an abuser. We had a sex less marriage. At a few points she told me I wasn't going to get it from her so I might as well get it somewhere else. I took her at her word. Im in a much better relationship now and am not tempted to look elsewhere beyond what we do together. Luke " Totally agree- sex is such an important part of a relationship. Saying that, so is communication- say how you feel, if you're not on the same page there's a decision to be made. Not the same as cheating I suppose! | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? " Children are rarely benefited by unhappy/incompatible people staying together. And they certainly aren't benefited by abuse or neglect being perpetuated around them. | |||
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"The responses in here are telling " Says inspector pickle | |||
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"If you find someone really hot then it's ok. " seems fair and reasonable | |||
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"The responses in here are telling Says inspector pickle " I’ve found the guilty parties. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Personally speaking I would say no....but I am sure many others would have plenty of reason they feel it's acceptable | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " You surely already know that everything is possible in such a complex and wide-ranging matter - including a positive response to your question - but whether than validates your own actions or not only you will know. It would be a bit pitiful if you asked it for some kind of conformation though I would say. pt | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Nope never People are human with feelings, some hide their feelings better than others but I will always be against people taking someone's feelings for granted and treating a person like they're at a leisure park. Treat others how you would want to be treated and if they don't it's a reflection of them, it's disgusting to cheat on a person that's senseless and living with no conscious. I will always stand strong on that | |||
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"Your wife goes off sex immediately after the wedding! " | |||
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"Yes. Sex is an important part of marriage. Sex that you want is an important part of a happy marriage. If you don't have either, what does your other half expect? You staying celibate? Or playing with yourself all the time? " Why stay married if the marriage is not providing for the needs of both parties? If it is irreconcilable? | |||
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"Yes. Sex is an important part of marriage. Sex that you want is an important part of a happy marriage. If you don't have either, what does your other half expect? You staying celibate? Or playing with yourself all the time? Why stay married if the marriage is not providing for the needs of both parties? If it is irreconcilable?" Oh you're going to hear lots of soppy stories as to why | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? " Children never benefit from seeing abuse and neglect. And they do see, believe me. | |||
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"Sex is physically important to me. It’s makes for a feeling of belonging and sensuality. However, we don’t have sex. We haven’t had for 2+ years now. It’s difficult and although I’ve always tried to stay true, I know that I am becoming more and more willing to consider an affair" Or just split up? | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? " As the child of one such situation, please don't fucking do it. No child will ever look back and thank you for it. - Xeno | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? As the child of one such situation, please don't fucking do it. No child will ever look back and thank you for it. - Xeno" I can only imagine- got to think of the kids in this scenario & end it as amicably as possible if not happy. | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? As the child of one such situation, please don't fucking do it. No child will ever look back and thank you for it. - Xeno I can only imagine- got to think of the kids in this scenario & end it as amicably as possible if not happy." 100% | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? As the child of one such situation, please don't fucking do it. No child will ever look back and thank you for it. - Xeno I can only imagine- got to think of the kids in this scenario & end it as amicably as possible if not happy. 100% " | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " I think the word you’re looking for is justified. There are plenty of reasons. But is it OK, right or justified is the question you’re really asking. I had a really flirty ex who used to go out and come back home d*unk after getting a lift home from strangers after a night out. I even once saw her kiss a guy goodbye when she got out of the car. But denied she did anything!! As far as I’m concerned kissing alone is cheating. She would receive calls and go to another room to answer but would swear she wasn’t doing anything. I thought what’s good for the goose…. When she found out about my cheating she was very upset but would only say she hadn’t done this and hadn’t done that. Not tell me what she had actually done. We had kids and I wasn’t planning on leaving until they were grown and raised. I felt and still feel justified in that scenario. If she had shown her true colours before getting pregnant I would have left. But I already had a child from a previous relationship and knew as a dad if you’re not with the partner you are very limited in their upbringing. So instead of leaving or being resentful I was slyly vengeful. Not good but the better option for me (and me kids) at the time. IMO | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " If you love your partner and your partner loves you then no but if youve fallen out of love with your partner then no if your partner has fallen out of love with you then no, so i guess the answer is no | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? " Staying for the kids is usually the excuse men like to give, but when the cheating is found out I have never once known the kids to be grateful for it. It rips families apart a lot more than divorce does, and it's rare the cheater comes out in a good light for doing it. | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? It never ends well.. best intentions acknowledged… in reality all it does is delay the inevitable. Situations always differ and are complex.. generally it always ends the same way tho x Staying for the kids is usually the excuse men like to give, but when the cheating is found out I have never once known the kids to be grateful for it. It rips families apart a lot more than divorce does, and it's rare the cheater comes out in a good light for doing it." | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " No. I don't think what goes on here could be classed as affairs, although I am sure there are the occasional moments. Having said that, my wife died a few years ago, but it never crossed my mind to even only have sex with someone else, man or woman. Quite apart from not wanting to, she would probably have killed me in my sleep. | |||
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"This subject always brings 'if you don't like it leave, if only life was that simple', genuinely. There's much much more nuance to a relationship than just sex, in fact, I'd say if the relationship is built around sex then it wouldn't be a very strong relationship. " Yes it should be built around honesty and trust. | |||
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"Unless you've walked in someone's shoes, don't judge" Really? So only another kiddie fiddler can judge Gary Glitter | |||
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"Unless you've walked in someone's shoes, don't judge Really? So only another kiddie fiddler can judge Gary Glitter " Exactly | |||
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"You see it on here all the time, men (it is mainly men) trying to justify fucking about. Oh my wife doesn't give me sex blah blah blah. It's just an excuse to fuck who you want. Have the balls and own it at least. It's the worse thing you can do to some, and you're doing it to the person you're meant to love most in the world. Don't make out it's their fault for not giving you sex. Couldn’t agree more " | |||
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"Don't make out it's their fault for not giving you sex." I have every right to make out it's her fault. She only wanted sex when d*unk which was like making love to a brewery, so I gave her the ultimatum stop drinking or no sex. She chose the bottle. I behaved myself for a whole year and then I chose fab. If I want a sex life I'm entitled to a sex life | |||
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"Don't make out it's their fault for not giving you sex. I have every right to make out it's her fault. She only wanted sex when d*unk which was like making love to a brewery, so I gave her the ultimatum stop drinking or no sex. She chose the bottle. I behaved myself for a whole year and then I chose fab. If I want a sex life I'm entitled to a sex life " Entitled..... | |||
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"Don't make out it's their fault for not giving you sex. I have every right to make out it's her fault. She only wanted sex when d*unk which was like making love to a brewery, so I gave her the ultimatum stop drinking or no sex. She chose the bottle. I behaved myself for a whole year and then I chose fab. If I want a sex life I'm entitled to a sex life " This is doing you no favours at all | |||
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"I think people marry the wrong people. I know I certainly did " Absofuckinlutely agree with this | |||
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"We’re not talking about a one time thing we’re talking about an affair. A deliberate consistent choice over time. **" | |||
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"This subject always brings 'if you don't like it leave, if only life was that simple', genuinely. There's much much more nuance to a relationship than just sex, in fact, I'd say if the relationship is built around sex then it wouldn't be a very strong relationship. " Surely a good relationship is built around love, trust, respect, understanding, communication and honesty - cheating goes against every one of those values. Seems pretty simple to me, and those that like to complicate it are just trying to shroud it in order to justify it. K | |||
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"Remember the first rule of Fab: The men cheating on here (of which there are LOADS) are c*nts. The women cheating on here (of which there are LOADS) are clearly doing it because their men are c*nts. The key difference between the two groups is that the ladies do it much more stealthily and don’t blab about it on the forums! That hot *single* lass on here? Most likely cheating.. (trust me on this based on around 8 or 8 years on Fab!)" I've had one or two admit it to me too. I honestly just don't care about other people's drama. Animals, of which we are, are shitty. Ever seen how savage gorillas get when they get food? I think most people here are going to have experienced being cheated on whether they know it or not. It's just one of life's unfortunate things that not matter how much you talk about, will never change. Hell, you know in world war 2 many many women were fucking the boys just too young to go to war while their husbands were away right? At least that's how my grandad lost his virginity. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Very rarely. I understand how it happens often but I think it is rare that the reasons are justifiable. I really wish people felt able to communicate well with the people in their lives. I also wish people would talk about scenarios that may come up in a relationship in the future too. Talk about how you will cope if someone gets sick or loses a job or how to talk to each other when someone is struggling day to day. Not just about sex but about support, finances, needs, the kids, the house, etc. However so many don't want or feel able to have those conversations. It is why communication is a top priority in a relationship for me. If you can't communicate in the good times how on earth can you communicate in the difficult times? | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " It’s quite common is some cultures and nations. Brits are on the whole less liberated than some of our European counterparts. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " There's always a reason for an affair. Whether people outside the relationship deem it valid is another thing entirely. I've never had one, but my view is quite simple. Here's my shoes, put them on and go for a wander...... | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx Very rarely. I understand how it happens often but I think it is rare that the reasons are justifiable. I really wish people felt able to communicate well with the people in their lives. I also wish people would talk about scenarios that may come up in a relationship in the future too. Talk about how you will cope if someone gets sick or loses a job or how to talk to each other when someone is struggling day to day. Not just about sex but about support, finances, needs, the kids, the house, etc. However so many don't want or feel able to have those conversations. It is why communication is a top priority in a relationship for me. If you can't communicate in the good times how on earth can you communicate in the difficult times? " That's where the rot usually begins. What goes unspoken, grows into a lie and then an affair. A muddle of nervous words Could never amount to betrayal The sentence is all my own The price is to watch it fail | |||
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"Yes there is and for some people it actually even protects their marriage. " | |||
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"Yes there is and for some people it actually even protects their marriage. " Totally agree, my marriage got a lot more intimate after my brief fling and we progressed to swinging and an open relationship. Marriage ended for other reasons. | |||
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"Don't make out it's their fault for not giving you sex. I have every right to make out it's her fault. She only wanted sex when d*unk which was like making love to a brewery, so I gave her the ultimatum stop drinking or no sex. She chose the bottle. I behaved myself for a whole year and then I chose fab. If I want a sex life I'm entitled to a sex life " | |||
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"Yes there is and for some people it actually even protects their marriage. Do you think their partners would feel protected? I say anyone who thinks having their cake and eat it “protects” their relationship is probably a narcissist. " | |||
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"It's nice to see a post separate the respectable from the scum. Affairs/ cheating is never ok. You deserve the worst pain imaginable " Imagine the uproar if you’re a Tory having an affair! . You’d get doubly slated on here | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Don't bring others into it, what there doing is none of your business. Smacks to me your justifying your behaviour to yourself, because others are doing it. Is that conscious of yours telling you something there Op.... | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx There's always a reason for an affair. Whether people outside the relationship deem it valid is another thing entirely. I've never had one, but my view is quite simple. Here's my shoes, put them on and go for a wander......" What brand are they? | |||
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"I think people marry the wrong people. I know I certainly did " Yes they probably do. Still no justification for having an affair. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Yes | |||
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"I really couldnt care less what anyone on here thinks of my comment. That's my view on it. I hate cheats. I class them as scum" | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx There's always a reason for an affair. Whether people outside the relationship deem it valid is another thing entirely. I've never had one, but my view is quite simple. Here's my shoes, put them on and go for a wander...... What brand are they?" Crocs | |||
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"This subject always brings 'if you don't like it leave, if only life was that simple', genuinely. There's much much more nuance to a relationship than just sex, in fact, I'd say if the relationship is built around sex then it wouldn't be a very strong relationship. " I agree | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx There's always a reason for an affair. Whether people outside the relationship deem it valid is another thing entirely. I've never had one, but my view is quite simple. Here's my shoes, put them on and go for a wander...... What brand are they?" Hand made at Loakes. Very comfortable. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx There's always a reason for an affair. Whether people outside the relationship deem it valid is another thing entirely. I've never had one, but my view is quite simple. Here's my shoes, put them on and go for a wander...... What brand are they? Crocs" You know what the holes in Crocs are for? They're where your self respect seeps out. | |||
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"Affairs will always happen. You can debate morality but monogamy isn’t actually hardwired into us it’s just a social construct." This | |||
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"Ok can the ones who want to banter about other things go on another thread. It spoils a good debate otherwise Can we also keep it civil on here please Ta" | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair." unless you are the partner of either party and unaware. | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair." Yeah if everyone knows about it then it’s not | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair." If a significant partner is not aware, then yes it is, I'd suggest you redefine your definition of 'affair' | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair." Tell my children that | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that" Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? | |||
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"No, they should work on their marriage instead " Hi Shag My ex lost my trust. Once trust lost nothing to repair it was over. | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? " They didn't mean that and you know it..... | |||
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"I believe there is ... usually because of wanting to give the kids a stable home. It would still be best to do this after an adult and sensible discussion but in reality that rarely happens." I always hear the “giving the kids a stable home “ argument…. But here is a newsflash Kids… a lot smarter than you actually think…. They know if something is not right between the parents.. they might not know the exacts.. but they pick up if something is off…. Better to be in a single parent happy environment…. Than a miserable couples one! | |||
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"I believe there is ... usually because of wanting to give the kids a stable home. It would still be best to do this after an adult and sensible discussion but in reality that rarely happens. I always hear the “giving the kids a stable home “ argument…. But here is a newsflash Kids… a lot smarter than you actually think…. They know if something is not right between the parents.. they might not know the exacts.. but they pick up if something is off…. Better to be in a single parent happy environment…. Than a miserable couples one! " Couldn’t agree more!! | |||
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"I believe there is ... usually because of wanting to give the kids a stable home. It would still be best to do this after an adult and sensible discussion but in reality that rarely happens. I always hear the “giving the kids a stable home “ argument…. But here is a newsflash Kids… a lot smarter than you actually think…. They know if something is not right between the parents.. they might not know the exacts.. but they pick up if something is off…. Better to be in a single parent happy environment…. Than a miserable couples one! " ^^^This. Also lots of people who, in their late teens or early 20s, discover that their parents are separating and it's all actually been over for years, feel that their childhood has been a lie. All the happy faces faked for the "show" of unity. They then struggle to trust their parents. I have seen this in friends of mine, whose parents "stayed together for the kids" and then separated when they were at uni. | |||
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"This site is notorious for people playing behind their partners back. Yes I'm the black pot but, I'm curious if anyone ever thinks there is a time and place for an affair? Xx " Always. If the other person won't fuck when asked, what is the point of them? Use them to pay half the bills and just fuck around with other people. | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? " You know full well what I mean. And our children are now adults. But will never forgive their father for what he did | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? " you’re funny! | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? you’re funny!" He's actually not. At all. | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? you’re funny! He's actually not. At all." Yes he is | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? you’re funny! He's actually not. At all.Yes he is " If you have a warped sense of humour | |||
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"Meeting on here for horny sex is not an affair. Tell my children that Why would you want older men talking to your children about sex? you’re funny! He's actually not. At all.Yes he is If you have a warped sense of humour " - | |||
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"No, they should work on their marriage instead Hi Shag My ex lost my trust. Once trust lost nothing to repair it was over. " Hi becs, you are right there too, if it is lost one cant do it, it depends on the relationship as well | |||
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"I am surprised noone else has mentioned the need to stay together, despite neglect or abuse by a partner, for the benefit of the children. Does noone else here consider the needs of the kids? " My sperm donor decided that it was a good thing to do having double life and double family and cheating on my mother besides the mental abuse. That wrecked the whole family mentally for years. So there’s no benefit at all on sticking to a cheating cunt when you talk about children’s needs, sorry. | |||
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"I had long term affair when with ex . She was a alcoholic tried my best to help learned cannot help unless they want help. I had step child that I loved as my own I stayed till he left home. Now in his 30s we text chat several times a week.sometimes work together sees little of his mother. He comes to any family get together we have. No sure if he know I had affair. The affair ended when I became single she kept putting off leaving husband. I not saying I was right to have affair but kept me sain." A very good example of when it's ok. Hope you are ok. | |||
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