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By *elshcouple18 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

NHS giving men a year off with pay because of this. How much more ridiculous can the human race get?

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Probably because male menopause also is a thing that matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sign me up. A year off with pay, then retire!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I can say is I'm on TRT. Low test is horrible. The good.news once diagnosed and treated it only takes a few months to start feeling yourself again. I have spoken to others who have had a god awful time with it. Hormones play such an important role to our bodily function from heart rate, fighting infections, labido and mental health to name a few.

Whilst I don't think most people suffering from this will require a year off I won't be surprised that there maybe some.

The problem with men and the reasons why male suicide is so high is because of the way society and fellow men laugh and belittle those in need. If forces some to regress more and it's a horrible slippery slope to follow. How about we show some support that for those that may need this time to adjust and get healthy again!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"All I can say is I'm on TRT. Low test is horrible. The good.news once diagnosed and treated it only takes a few months to start feeling yourself again. I have spoken to others who have had a god awful time with it. Hormones play such an important role to our bodily function from heart rate, fighting infections, labido and mental health to name a few.

Whilst I don't think most people suffering from this will require a year off I won't be surprised that there maybe some.

The problem with men and the reasons why male suicide is so high is because of the way society and fellow men laugh and belittle those in need. If forces some to regress more and it's a horrible slippery slope to follow. How about we show some support that for those that may need this time to adjust and get healthy again!"

Agreed and I doubt you can just turn up one day, say you're having a year off and cite this as your reason.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men"

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones "

I think this what the actually mean. It's just a hormonal imbalance. I can understand where people are coming from when they say men can't get menopause. It's just bad terminology.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

newcastle

Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones "

I guess so. I think it's useful for the men and the women to differentiate between the two though.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

My GP fobbed me off when I requested test patches and gave me Viagra instead.

Yeah typical GP treat the symptoms not the cause

My wife has commented a few times about how easy it is to get hormone replacement for women yet it seems to be very low on the list of priorities for men.

I'm guessing that GPs get kickbacks for issuing certain medications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off"

I agree with some of what you have said here about the treatment but I have met some men who have suffered horribly. Maybe not to justify a year off but they did have taken time for themselves as sick leave. I don't think you can throw everyone under the bus as being "weak".

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"My GP fobbed me off when I requested test patches and gave me Viagra instead.

Yeah typical GP treat the symptoms not the cause

My wife has commented a few times about how easy it is to get hormone replacement for women yet it seems to be very low on the list of priorities for men.

I'm guessing that GPs get kickbacks for issuing certain medications."

That's one reason I think specific terminology is useful.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off"

I doubt every man who experiences this has a year off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I doubt every man who experiences this has a year off. "

No they don't. Most men who I know who are being treated for low test haven't. There is only one that I do know of and he had 11 weeks off work sick.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I agree with some of what you have said here about the treatment but I have met some men who have suffered horribly. Maybe not to justify a year off but they did have taken time for themselves as sick leave. I don't think you can throw everyone under the bus as being "weak"."

I understand everyone’s different I had to go cold Turkey off TRT when I had my heart attack and had absolutely zero natural production for while, working for myself I had absolutely no option for time off especially as was in the middle of a job as it happened after my second week in hospital I discharged myself and went back to work the next day having to shovel, carry and lay blocks ect. It was hard but manageable while I may have a very unsympathetic view I do think it doesn't require any time off. If the NHS front loaded trt patients with a faster acting testosterone just while the nebido kicks in people would feel better in 1-2 weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure that a year off for hormone issues is as useful as more support in the workplace. For men and women. Support, recognition, flexibility.

(FWIW hrt for women can be very difficult to access from a GP)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I agree with some of what you have said here about the treatment but I have met some men who have suffered horribly. Maybe not to justify a year off but they did have taken time for themselves as sick leave. I don't think you can throw everyone under the bus as being "weak".

I understand everyone’s different I had to go cold Turkey off TRT when I had my heart attack and had absolutely zero natural production for while, working for myself I had absolutely no option for time off especially as was in the middle of a job as it happened after my second week in hospital I discharged myself and went back to work the next day having to shovel, carry and lay blocks ect. It was hard but manageable while I may have a very unsympathetic view I do think it doesn't require any time off. If the NHS front loaded trt patients with a faster acting testosterone just while the nebido kicks in people would feel better in 1-2 weeks "

I did exactly that. I sourced some test c

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones

I think this what the actually mean. It's just a hormonal imbalance. I can understand where people are coming from when they say men can't get menopause. It's just bad terminology."

Some people get easily offended these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I doubt every man who experiences this has a year off. "

Full pay for a year .

Alot of men would take that.

Oh how I wish I worked in the public sector again.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I doubt every man who experiences this has a year off.

No they don't. Most men who I know who are being treated for low test haven't. There is only one that I do know of and he had 11 weeks off work sick. "

Just as the majority of women experiencing menopause symptoms don't need time off, but some do.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones

I think this what the actually mean. It's just a hormonal imbalance. I can understand where people are coming from when they say men can't get menopause. It's just bad terminology.

Some people get easily offended these days "

Who's offended?

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby


"By definition men can't experience menopause. I think it's andropause for men

Probably in the end the concept is the same , imbalance of hormones

I think this what the actually mean. It's just a hormonal imbalance. I can understand where people are coming from when they say men can't get menopause. It's just bad terminology.

Some people get easily offended these days

Who's offended?"

Me

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By *929Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I agree with some of what you have said here about the treatment but I have met some men who have suffered horribly. Maybe not to justify a year off but they did have taken time for themselves as sick leave. I don't think you can throw everyone under the bus as being "weak".

I understand everyone’s different I had to go cold Turkey off TRT when I had my heart attack and had absolutely zero natural production for while, working for myself I had absolutely no option for time off especially as was in the middle of a job as it happened after my second week in hospital I discharged myself and went back to work the next day having to shovel, carry and lay blocks ect. It was hard but manageable while I may have a very unsympathetic view I do think it doesn't require any time off. If the NHS front loaded trt patients with a faster acting testosterone just while the nebido kicks in people would feel better in 1-2 weeks

I did exactly that. I sourced some test c"

Same mate I had no choice was diagnosed with low test 11 year ago but trt was in the dark ages back then got refused and went the self administered route, was supposed to get put on trt after my heart attack but was never followed up so self administered again like the test c best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haha why a year off? Could feel better In a few weeks if prescribed test e/c or sust. A bit long with the nebido shite they usually prescribe

We are becoming soft as shite these days low test isn’t nice but doesent in any way stop you going to bastard work ffs never mind having a year off

I agree with some of what you have said here about the treatment but I have met some men who have suffered horribly. Maybe not to justify a year off but they did have taken time for themselves as sick leave. I don't think you can throw everyone under the bus as being "weak".

I understand everyone’s different I had to go cold Turkey off TRT when I had my heart attack and had absolutely zero natural production for while, working for myself I had absolutely no option for time off especially as was in the middle of a job as it happened after my second week in hospital I discharged myself and went back to work the next day having to shovel, carry and lay blocks ect. It was hard but manageable while I may have a very unsympathetic view I do think it doesn't require any time off. If the NHS front loaded trt patients with a faster acting testosterone just while the nebido kicks in people would feel better in 1-2 weeks

I did exactly that. I sourced some test c

Same mate I had no choice was diagnosed with low test 11 year ago but trt was in the dark ages back then got refused and went the self administered route, was supposed to get put on trt after my heart attack but was never followed up so self administered again like the test c best "

Jeez I thought it was bad having low test at 38 (when I was diagnosed)

I have done the same. I take 125 of test c a week. I thought the NHS was slow with my diagnosis and treatment.

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