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"It would be interesting to see if his NI medal is real, not too many awarded to RN personnel but i stand to be corrected. " Very true, there were a few at Moscow when I was at Sydenham in about '80 but as far as I know they were the only ones. | |||
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"Why did it take someone to work that out and not be picked up during the checking out the CV etc. " That’s what Walt’s do. Lie convincingly enough that no one checks. | |||
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"Why did it take someone to work that out and not be picked up during the checking out the CV etc. " Because checking medal entitlement is not relevant to any job,even if you put your military service on a CV no one lists their GSM bars,campaign or LSGC.Anyone can pin a medal/group on their chest because their CV or civilian personnel file won't identify the deception. | |||
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"I haven't read the story. Was he genuinely pretending to be a decorated veteran or maybe a parents medal and keeping it as a memento?" If it was a relatives medal he would be wearing it on the Right chest on anniversaries. | |||
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"I haven't read the story. Was he genuinely pretending to be a decorated veteran or maybe a parents medal and keeping it as a memento? If it was a relatives medal he would be wearing it on the Right chest on anniversaries." This.. He's wearing it on the left on his service rig, fucking arsewipe.. SNLR fits the bill for that in my opinion.. | |||
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"This.. He's wearing it on the left on his service rig, fucking arsewipe.. SNLR fits the bill for that in my opinion.." Yep, as he was actually in the Navy (after the Falklands) he should be 100% aware that he can only wear relatives medals on his right chest. Wearing them with his service rig is a clear sign that he fully intended to deceive, it's not something that any ex service personnel would not be fully aware of. | |||
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"I haven't read the story. Was he genuinely pretending to be a decorated veteran or maybe a parents medal and keeping it as a memento? If it was a relatives medal he would be wearing it on the Right chest on anniversaries." Exactly. I have worn my late father's WWII and grandfather's WWI medals at Remembrance Day parades. It's always on the right. My own little service medal is the only one I can wear in my own right, and that's on the left. If this clown was wearing it on the left, he's either a fraud or a fantasist. Either way it's disrespectful, and he deserves to be called out for it. | |||
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"This.. He's wearing it on the left on his service rig, fucking arsewipe.. SNLR fits the bill for that in my opinion.. Yep, as he was actually in the Navy (after the Falklands) he should be 100% aware that he can only wear relatives medals on his right chest. Wearing them with his service rig is a clear sign that he fully intended to deceive, it's not something that any ex service personnel would not be fully aware of. " Spot on.. 
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"Disgraceful and should be castigated for it. " Most definitely.. | |||
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"It would be interesting to see if his NI medal is real, not too many awarded to RN personnel but i stand to be corrected. " A Royal Navy colleague and myself spent 2 weeks in Northern Ireland in 1982. When we got back we got a severe bollocking as we weren't supposed to be there. Didn't get a medal....  | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most about this is that my late father in law was a WW1 veteran. It wasn't until 2000 that he was actually awarded the French Legion de honour By the French in Coventry. He died the following year. It really does get my piss up when nobody nothings have no respect for men that gave EVERTHING for their country without any recognition for 90 plus years. And yet this twat who was in the Navy claims he didn't know that he had medals on the wrong side. That says to me he probably has no concept of law and defo should not even be a PC let alone a chief constable. This Cunt want's fucking off as soon as possible. Because unless top ranking public officials with his mentality are fucked off, all that is going to happen is we all fall into a public quagmire of no respect for anything." Your father in law is entitled to a "British War Medal" and "Victory Medal" as a minimum,possibly also a "1914 Star" or "1914-15 Star" depending on theatre and time in theatre.If these medals are missing send me a private message and I will tell you how you might be able to find them(offer applies to anyone else with missing family medals)The French began awarding LdH's as an acknowledgement of service rather than an award when it was realised there were so few vets left. This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. | |||
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"From a member of the public perspective - he’s a decent copper. He does a good job for the area, high profile, speaks his mind (see X:Twitter), motorcyclist, takes no shit and stands up for his team BUT Turns out to be a Walt- of which I have no time for. Seemingly the SA and GSM belong to his brother and he didn’t know they should be worn on the right. I’m not buying that" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. | |||
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"It would be interesting to see if his NI medal is real, not too many awarded to RN personnel but i stand to be corrected. A Royal Navy colleague and myself spent 2 weeks in Northern Ireland in 1982. When we got back we got a severe bollocking as we weren't supposed to be there. Didn't get a medal.... "As with most operational/campaign service medals you have to be ‘in theatre’ for 28 days (if my memory serves me right) to qualify, although there are a few exceptions. | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to." Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. | |||
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"I haven't read the story. Was he genuinely pretending to be a decorated veteran or maybe a parents medal and keeping it as a memento? If it was a relatives medal he would be wearing it on the Right chest on anniversaries. Exactly. I have worn my late father's WWII and grandfather's WWI medals at Remembrance Day parades. It's always on the right. My own little service medal is the only one I can wear in my own right, and that's on the left. If this clown was wearing it on the left, he's either a fraud or a fantasist. Either way it's disrespectful, and he deserves to be called out for it." Quite right, and normally one only wears medals like that after the death of the relative concerned. | |||
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"Why did it take someone to work that out and not be picked up during the checking out the CV etc. Because checking medal entitlement is not relevant to any job,even if you put your military service on a CV no one lists their GSM bars,campaign or LSGC.Anyone can pin a medal/group on their chest because their CV or civilian personnel file won't identify the deception." “checking medal entitlement “
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become." There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated" Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. " Well unless i got it wrong Royal Marines are Navy and according to the elite services site they did 69 tours of duty in Nothern Ireland. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. Well unless i got it wrong Royal Marines are Navy and according to the elite services site they did 69 tours of duty in Nothern Ireland." Yes, but this pathetic devious creature was in the Royal Navy and not in the Royal Marines (who do also come under the Admiralty but are a completely separate Corps). A small number of Royal Navy did serve operationally in Northern Ireland in various roles but there is no indication that he was one of them, and it is stated that two medals (Falklands and GSM(NI) were allegedly given to him by his brothers, unlikely though that sounds. | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law." It was pre COVID,the medals were not st0len,he was not current or ex forces.He was I think in his late 50's early 60's.He said in court he had done it to impress his girlfriend.He was filmed on a poppy day parade,someone saw the medal group and realised it was impossible,too young and being in more than one place at the same time.I seem to remember he was wearing an early SAS desert beret and tunic of original unit,neither were in the theatre of one medal. | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law. It was pre COVID,the medals were not st0len,he was not current or ex forces.He was I think in his late 50's early 60's.He said in court he had done it to impress his girlfriend.He was filmed on a poppy day parade,someone saw the medal group and realised it was impossible,too young and being in more than one place at the same time.I seem to remember he was wearing an early SAS desert beret and tunic of original unit,neither were in the theatre of one medal." What offence under which law was he charged with? | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law. It was pre COVID,the medals were not st0len,he was not current or ex forces.He was I think in his late 50's early 60's.He said in court he had done it to impress his girlfriend.He was filmed on a poppy day parade,someone saw the medal group and realised it was impossible,too young and being in more than one place at the same time.I seem to remember he was wearing an early SAS desert beret and tunic of original unit,neither were in the theatre of one medal. What offence under which law was he charged with?" Don't know,he was charged,prosecuted,found guilty and fined a good chunk.It was reported on national broadcast news and in most newspapers. | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law. It was pre COVID,the medals were not st0len,he was not current or ex forces.He was I think in his late 50's early 60's.He said in court he had done it to impress his girlfriend.He was filmed on a poppy day parade,someone saw the medal group and realised it was impossible,too young and being in more than one place at the same time.I seem to remember he was wearing an early SAS desert beret and tunic of original unit,neither were in the theatre of one medal. What offence under which law was he charged with? Don't know,he was charged,prosecuted,found guilty and fined a good chunk.It was reported on national broadcast news and in most newspapers." You can’t confiscate private property unless it has been used in or involved in the commission of an offence, and possessing medals or uniforms that are not one’s own is certainly not an offence. I suspect that some other offence was involved which brought him to court and the matter, perhaps in some way associated with it, arose in the course of the case. I repeat: there is currently no specific offence involved. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. Well unless i got it wrong Royal Marines are Navy and according to the elite services site they did 69 tours of duty in Nothern Ireland. Yes, but this pathetic devious creature was in the Royal Navy and not in the Royal Marines (who do also come under the Admiralty but are a completely separate Corps). A small number of Royal Navy did serve operationally in Northern Ireland in various roles but there is no indication that he was one of them, and it is stated that two medals (Falklands and GSM(NI) were allegedly given to him by his brothers, unlikely though that sounds." Ok thanks for clearing it up my cousin was a Royal Marine but he passed away few year ago so could not ask him ,I did google it but was not really clear if marines was royal navy or seperate . And yes i agree he should not have been wearing those medals. | |||
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"The thing that really upsets me the most … This cop should be prosecuted and fined as anyone else would be for wearing medals they are not entitled to. Unfortunately although what they call‘Sto-len Valor’ is a specific offence in the USA it is not here, although there have been suggestions that it should be, so it would not be possible to prosecute this fraudulent creep as it is most unlikely that it would fulfil the requirements for a fraud charge. Utterly despicable and dishonest behaviour and there is no possible excuse of ignorance or anything else, and it shows a complete lack of integrity and insults all who wear medals by right, including his own two brothers whom he claims gave them to him. If he doesn’t resign immediately he should be sacked and deprived of his pension and banned from any further police or other official employment or involvement. Pathetic little man, showing how debased much of our police (and other) ‘leadership’ has become. There was a guy here a couple of years ago prosecuted and fined for wearing medals he was not entitled to,the medals were also confiscated Do you know the details? Perhaps the medals had been sto-len which would have enabled a charge of theft or receiving sto-len property, unless they found some way of classing it as fraud (which normally has to involve someone suffering a loss of some sort), because although there has been discussion of creating an offence to cover it there isn’t one currently, although if the culprit was a serving member of the regular or reserve armed forces I think that he could be charged under military law. It was pre COVID,the medals were not st0len,he was not current or ex forces.He was I think in his late 50's early 60's.He said in court he had done it to impress his girlfriend.He was filmed on a poppy day parade,someone saw the medal group and realised it was impossible,too young and being in more than one place at the same time.I seem to remember he was wearing an early SAS desert beret and tunic of original unit,neither were in the theatre of one medal. What offence under which law was he charged with? Don't know,he was charged,prosecuted,found guilty and fined a good chunk.It was reported on national broadcast news and in most newspapers. You can’t confiscate private property unless it has been used in or involved in the commission of an offence, and possessing medals or uniforms that are not one’s own is certainly not an offence. I suspect that some other offence was involved which brought him to court and the matter, perhaps in some way associated with it, arose in the course of the case. I repeat: there is currently no specific offence involved." I'm not dreaming it ,it happened.I'm not having an argument about it,it happened.His false medal entitlement was the only issue involved.The medals were seized because he was convicted.The conviction was probably some aspect of fraud or deception law. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. " Navy had (maybe still have) a presence in NI - SNONI Senior Naval Officer Northern Ireland Either way, I don’t think the GSM belongs to our Police friend | |||
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"He was arrested and prosecuted for "wearing military medals without authority as to be calculated to deceive" section 197 of the Army act 1955 which makes wearing decorations(awards for valour) a criminal offence." The Army Act 1955 was superseded by the Armed Forces Act 2006 which has no such provision in respect of civilians, so presumably this was before that. Perhaps by unfortunate oversight it is no longer an offence, although there have been Parliamentary discussions about introducing a new specific offence to cover these sorts of people. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. Navy had (maybe still have) a presence in NI - SNONI Senior Naval Officer Northern Ireland Either way, I don’t think the GSM belongs to our Police friend " He claims the GSM and Atlantic are his two brothers | |||
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"His fake group:- DSO with bar,MC with bar, Queens Commendation Medal,MM,DSM,MSM,CSM,South Atlantic,Gulf, Accumulated Service Medal, Saudi Arabian Medal,Kuwait Liberation Medal,Army LSGC,NATO Medal and three unidentified foreign awards." That’s quite a ridiculously impressive bogus claim! Most ‘Walter Mittys’ have the sense to make their pretences at least vaguely credible to the less well informed. | |||
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"He was arrested and prosecuted for "wearing military medals without authority as to be calculated to deceive" section 197 of the Army act 1955 which makes wearing decorations(awards for valour) a criminal offence. The Army Act 1955 was superseded by the Armed Forces Act 2006 which has no such provision in respect of civilians, so presumably this was before that. Perhaps by unfortunate oversight it is no longer an offence, although there have been Parliamentary discussions about introducing a new specific offence to cover these sorts of people." He had a 14 month period in the army with no medal entitlement. | |||
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" He is ex Navy so he would know about wearing other peoples medals. The GSM if it’s for Northern Ireland wouldn’t be his because the Navy didn’t have a presence there. Navy had (maybe still have) a presence in NI - SNONI Senior Naval Officer Northern Ireland Either way, I don’t think the GSM belongs to our Police friend He claims the GSM and Atlantic are his two brothers" Indeed, and unless his brothers are dead he has no right to wear them even on the other side to his own. | |||
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"Northamptonshire’s top cop found to be a Walter Mitty. Worn a Falklands medal on his uniform and made people believe he was a Falklands vet. Someone worked out he was 15 and an army cadet at the time. Dumbass!" Be kind. Clearly has mental health issues and needs a little support... | |||
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"Northamptonshire’s top cop found to be a Walter Mitty. Worn a Falklands medal on his uniform and made people believe he was a Falklands vet. Someone worked out he was 15 and an army cadet at the time. Dumbass! Be kind. Clearly has mental health issues and needs a little support..." Oh and yes he is a dumbass! | |||
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"He's now been suspended and under criminal investigation.." Very glad to hear it! Sadly rare that odious narcissistic careerists get exposed for what they are. | |||
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