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"They should do it in the comfort of their own Holmes." See what you did there  | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law " That’s not controversial, that would be passed unanimously if we had a vote. | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. " Legalise it 
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?"I like those too. Especially electric ones. More bikes, scooters and walkers. No cars. And no vapes. | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law That’s not controversial, that would be passed unanimously if we had a vote."  what noise will Boobies make if the butt is honk honk | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." ^^ what he said  | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?
I like those too. Especially electric ones.
More bikes, scooters and walkers. No cars. And no vapes. "This could work! | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law That’s not controversial, that would be passed unanimously if we had a vote. what noise will Boobies make if the butt is honk honk "Awoooga? | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law That’s not controversial, that would be passed unanimously if we had a vote. what noise will Boobies make if the butt is honk honk "They also go honk honk but only if you ask them nicely | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?"What about people who can neither ride a bike, or stand on a scooter? #DisabledsFTW | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." 
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?
What about people who can neither ride a bike, or stand on a scooter?
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"*Ban all fireworks, except the odd licenced event. *On the spot fines for anyone not indicating *Bring back a bit of social distancing so people don't breath on you when in a queue *Stop Amazon and other delivery drivers dumping stuff wherever they want despite clear delivery instructions *retrain all doctor reception staff and teach them to show some empathy and good manners *stop people turning their gardens into amusement parks and behaving like they are on an all inclusive in magaluf TBC ..." Keep the list going | |||
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"In the great scheme of human smells, I don't particularly find vapes to be that offensive in comparison, for example, to people who bathe themselves in cheap perfume/aftershave, those with bad BO, stale booze pong and sweaty garlic. Amongst others. My controversial opinion is that people who profess to hating vapers are actually still just hating on smokers, which they see as the same thing, who seem to be one of the few groups where hatred is encouraged and allowable toward. But that's just my controversial opinion. Bess x" Don’t actually mind smokers, cos they tend not to smoke in my face. | |||
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"I don’t like smoking or vaping when it’s done with no regard for me and is blown into my face or my space. I agree" Ditto ..m | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?
What about people who can neither ride a bike, or stand on a scooter?
#DisabledsFTW
People with disabilities have been ahead of the curve on this one for ages, with the electric scooters and chairs."Which scooters? If you mean mobility scooters, they're not much cop really and they cost as much (or more) than a second hand car. I have a manual wheelchair that cost me £4500. I can't commute to work 20 miles in it. I can't do that on a mobility scooter either but even if I could, mobility scooters are designed to be left at the door, outside. They're not designed for indoor use. If I had a magic mobility scooter with a never ending battery, where do I put my manual wheelchair for when I get to work? Where do I put my child to get her to school? Her, plus her bag, reading book folder, the school bear, my work bag, my gym bag and our coats? How do we stay dry and warm in winter? How does my manual wheelchair for indoors stay dry? A million questions. None are solved with mobility scooters or wheelchairs (electric, manual or otherwise). | |||
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"I don’t like smoking or vaping when it’s done with no regard for me and is blown into my face or my space. I agree Ditto ..m" Maybe the opinion isn’t so controversial | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?
What about people who can neither ride a bike, or stand on a scooter?
#DisabledsFTW
People with disabilities have been ahead of the curve on this one for ages, with the electric scooters and chairs.
Which scooters? If you mean mobility scooters, they're not much cop really and they cost as much (or more) than a second hand car. I have a manual wheelchair that cost me £4500. I can't commute to work 20 miles in it. I can't do that on a mobility scooter either but even if I could, mobility scooters are designed to be left at the door, outside. They're not designed for indoor use. If I had a magic mobility scooter with a never ending battery, where do I put my manual wheelchair for when I get to work? Where do I put my child to get her to school? Her, plus her bag, reading book folder, the school bear, my work bag, my gym bag and our coats? How do we stay dry and warm in winter? How does my manual wheelchair for indoors stay dry?
A million questions. None are solved with mobility scooters or wheelchairs (electric, manual or otherwise). "I was only comparing them to the electric scooters that are popular now. | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. Legalise it
Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?
What about people who can neither ride a bike, or stand on a scooter?
#DisabledsFTW
People with disabilities have been ahead of the curve on this one for ages, with the electric scooters and chairs.
Which scooters? If you mean mobility scooters, they're not much cop really and they cost as much (or more) than a second hand car. I have a manual wheelchair that cost me £4500. I can't commute to work 20 miles in it. I can't do that on a mobility scooter either but even if I could, mobility scooters are designed to be left at the door, outside. They're not designed for indoor use. If I had a magic mobility scooter with a never ending battery, where do I put my manual wheelchair for when I get to work? Where do I put my child to get her to school? Her, plus her bag, reading book folder, the school bear, my work bag, my gym bag and our coats? How do we stay dry and warm in winter? How does my manual wheelchair for indoors stay dry?
A million questions. None are solved with mobility scooters or wheelchairs (electric, manual or otherwise).
I was only comparing them to the electric scooters that are popular now."Which electric scooters? Do you mean mobility scooters (where one sits down) or the e-scooters where you have to stand up? Irrespective, neither are a proper transportation option for disabled people, unless we are talking short distances and a person able to mobilise perhaps within a shop or workplace. I'm asking how banning motor vehicles works for the disabled people like me, who cannot mobilise without a wheelchair? I get a bee in my bonnet because the decision makers in local councils seem to make the same leaps of "logic" and have already started banning cars or obstructing cars but before they've actually provided any reliable and accessible alternative, for those who cannot walk, cycle, e-scooter or similar. | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. " Yeah yeah I'm a monster and you're a saint... I don't go round telling people how to live their lives though. Where's your understanding for people who vape? That guy can't have his dinner warm because you don't like the smell? What makes your sense of smell everyone else's priority? Microwave fish is nasty but that's not the point. To be honest it doesn't bother me, I am happy to vape outside, but you wanted controversy so there ya go | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. Yeah yeah I'm a monster and you're a saint... I don't go round telling people how to live their lives though. Where's your understanding for people who vape? That guy can't have his dinner warm because you don't like the smell? What makes your sense of smell everyone else's priority? Microwave fish is nasty but that's not the point. To be honest it doesn't bother me, I am happy to vape outside, but you wanted controversy so there ya go "Every time I'm going to do a smelly fart I'm going to stand next to you | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law That’s not controversial, that would be passed unanimously if we had a vote. what noise will Boobies make if the butt is honk honk "Aaaawooooogaaaa | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. Yeah yeah I'm a monster and you're a saint... I don't go round telling people how to live their lives though. Where's your understanding for people who vape? That guy can't have his dinner warm because you don't like the smell? What makes your sense of smell everyone else's priority? Microwave fish is nasty but that's not the point. To be honest it doesn't bother me, I am happy to vape outside, but you wanted controversy so there ya go
Every time I'm going to do a smelly fart I'm going to stand next to you " I'll make sure I blow my microwaved Salmon vape plume your way | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. Yeah yeah I'm a monster and you're a saint... I don't go round telling people how to live their lives though. Where's your understanding for people who vape? That guy can't have his dinner warm because you don't like the smell? What makes your sense of smell everyone else's priority? Microwave fish is nasty but that's not the point. To be honest it doesn't bother me, I am happy to vape outside, but you wanted controversy so there ya go
Every time I'm going to do a smelly fart I'm going to stand next to you
I'll make sure I blow my microwaved Salmon vape plume your way"Fart trumps vape | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. May as well be the guy who microwaves fish at work. Not a care in the world for your fellow humans, I’m alright Jack. Vape/smoke whatever you want. Just don’t do it somewhere I can smell it, and don’t do it indoors. Yeah yeah I'm a monster and you're a saint... I don't go round telling people how to live their lives though. Where's your understanding for people who vape? That guy can't have his dinner warm because you don't like the smell? What makes your sense of smell everyone else's priority? Microwave fish is nasty but that's not the point. To be honest it doesn't bother me, I am happy to vape outside, but you wanted controversy so there ya go
Every time I'm going to do a smelly fart I'm going to stand next to you
I'll make sure I blow my microwaved Salmon vape plume your way
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .." I will find you…. And I will kill you | |||
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .. I will find you…. And I will kill you "I'll buy you a drink first | |||
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"My controversial opinion, all Vaping should be banned. Smoking I don’t mind too much because people tend to move away from others to do it, and people don’t try to argue that it isn’t bad for you. But why is it that people who Vape seem to think that they can do it wherever and whenever they want? And why is it so fucking aggressively smelly? At the football a guy sat next to me whips out his Vape and starts puffing huge clouds in my face, what the fuck?? In the pub, on the train, in the office, in hotels, In restaurants, everywhere there are people Vaping. Because it’s not a cigarette do people think they can do it and it doesn’t matter? Or is it an ignorance thing, are they unaware that it might not be welcome? I personally don’t want to smell your Vanilla Blueberry or Tutti Frutti Chocolini stink. Standing indoors effectively smelling someone else’s breath doesn’t do it for me. I was driving down the road and the car in front was Vaping with the window open and it was all I could smell, that’s how strong it is. Rant over and I feel marginally better. Post your controversial opinion below! " I'm allergic to a lot of those things... and the hundreds of chemicals in regular smokes... They're fkn stinking all of them. | |||
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .. I will find you…. And I will kill you
I'll buy you a drink first "Thanks for that… but if you do the increase in alcohol tax then you’ll need to buy my house in Tenerife first… | |||
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .. I will find you…. And I will kill you
I'll buy you a drink first
Thanks for that… but if you do the increase in alcohol tax then you’ll need to buy my house in Tenerife first… "We could just go there and get d*unk on the cheap booze | |||
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .. I will find you…. And I will kill you
I'll buy you a drink first
Thanks for that… but if you do the increase in alcohol tax then you’ll need to buy my house in Tenerife first…
We could just go there and get d*unk on the cheap booze "I’m going there forever… if you put the booze price up | |||
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"That if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral its because his penis isn't working. I feel attacked "Are you the oral obsessive or the penile performance problem? Just checking | |||
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"All bum cheeks should make the honk honk noise when squeezed. By law " Absolutely this ??yes definitely this xx | |||
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"That if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral its because his penis isn't working. I feel attacked
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"That if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral its because his penis isn't working. I feel attacked
Are you the oral obsessive or the penile performance problem? Just checking "Yes | |||
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"That if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral its because his penis isn't working. I feel attacked
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"People on the kink scene are like the vegans of Fab. No one asks, but they'll certainly mention it when they can! "Oh god this is so true | |||
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"I would increase alcohol tax on booze in supermarkets ...it's become to cheap .." It'd only affect poor people though... Like life isn't shit enough for us already  | |||
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"Best not to get me started, we'll be here a long time and a lot of knickers will be twisted" Go on get started you can't leave us wondering | |||
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"Best not to get me started, we'll be here a long time and a lot of knickers will be twisted" Ooh go on… it’ll be fun | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." So you haven't heard of the new ban on smoking. Anyone born after 2009 won't be able to buy cigarettes, as it will be illegal for them to do so. | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again. So you haven't heard of the new ban on smoking. Anyone born after 2009 won't be able to buy cigarettes, as it will be illegal for them to do so." You may be taking me more seriously than I intended. I was just being 'controversial' on the theme of he original OP. No it doesn't surprise me though. I am opposed to prohibition in general. It's people's right to decide for themselves, it's their body. If you have capacity you can make 'bad' decisions for yourself. Not my business and not the states. Sure ban public places etc, if it may harm others. That's reasonable. That is a step too far in my opinion. | |||
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Also, why does everyone need an electric scooter. What’s wrong with push bikes?"Because people are inherently lazy, anything to make their lives easier, quicker etc..I hate the bastard things people around here whizz around in them with no regard fir other people, go the wrong way up one way streets.... boils my piss | |||
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"That if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral its because his penis isn't working." Agreed. Or if a man is totally obsessed with giving oral it’s because he thinks he’s some sort of sex god and imo doesn’t have a clue how to do it anyway | |||
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"That doesn't sound too controversial. My controversial opinion would be to ban cars from all urban centres but to legalise electric scooters. " Agreed! | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades" Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion" Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. " It’s in the article you posted. The difference of pay is based on the grade of the job. So a man in a grade 1 job will get paid less than a woman in a grade 3 job. And vice versa. It just happens that cleaners (grade 1) is dominated by women and caretakers (grade 3) is dominated by men. Nothings stopping either sex from working within a higher grade As the other poster said, rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps and apply for a higher grade job, they’d rather claim it’s inequality. I’d imagine being a caretaker is a harder/more skilled job than a cleaner, but why do a harder job for more pay when you can do an easier job and claim discrimination | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. " You should read the article carefully without the emotional language and you'll see the pay differences have nothing to do with gender but rather roles. That's not discriminatory. | |||
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"My controversial opinion, all Vaping should be banned. Smoking I don’t mind too much because people tend to move away from others to do it, and people don’t try to argue that it isn’t bad for you. But why is it that people who Vape seem to think that they can do it wherever and whenever they want? And why is it so fucking aggressively smelly? At the football a guy sat next to me whips out his Vape and starts puffing huge clouds in my face, what the fuck?? In the pub, on the train, in the office, in hotels, In restaurants, everywhere there are people Vaping. Because it’s not a cigarette do people think they can do it and it doesn’t matter? Or is it an ignorance thing, are they unaware that it might not be welcome? I personally don’t want to smell your Vanilla Blueberry or Tutti Frutti Chocolini stink. Standing indoors effectively smelling someone else’s breath doesn’t do it for me. I was driving down the road and the car in front was Vaping with the window open and it was all I could smell, that’s how strong it is. Rant over and I feel marginally better. Post your controversial opinion below! " Vapers aren't the problem. Dickheads are the problem here.l | |||
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"Listen pal I grew up with smoking, it was everywhere. My gran used to smoke whilst feeding me and winding me. Pubs, buses, planes, workplaces. Hell my primary head used to chain smoke whilst giving me a bollocking. So I started smoking at 13 and it was a quid for ten. Now it's what £13 for 20. Government jacking the price up like some shady 'this ain't no ten-bag la' dealer. Last 20 years it's felt like I may as well have leprosy. So I quit and I vape. I hate vaping it's absolute crap. I want a ciggie everyday. I don't vape in shops etc. But I'm not walking to 200m because someone doesn't like the smell. You won. Stop kicking us when we are down. Otherwise I am going to rifter a fat one and burn up in the middle of the pub like it's 1999 again." 100% this! Although people shouldn’t be vaping in pubs, trains, shops etc anyway and I wouldn’t do that. But anyone complaining about me vaping outside can just walk away because I won’t be. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. It’s in the article you posted. The difference of pay is based on the grade of the job. So a man in a grade 1 job will get paid less than a woman in a grade 3 job. And vice versa. It just happens that cleaners (grade 1) is dominated by women and caretakers (grade 3) is dominated by men. Nothings stopping either sex from working within a higher grade As the other poster said, rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps and apply for a higher grade job, they’d rather claim it’s inequality. I’d imagine being a caretaker is a harder/more skilled job than a cleaner, but why do a harder job for more pay when you can do an easier job and claim discrimination " Glasgow Council is paying 8,000 WOMEN after losing an equal pay claim. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/17/glasgow-council-women-workers-win-12-year-equal-pay-battle But sure it's not about gender. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. It’s in the article you posted. The difference of pay is based on the grade of the job. So a man in a grade 1 job will get paid less than a woman in a grade 3 job. And vice versa. It just happens that cleaners (grade 1) is dominated by women and caretakers (grade 3) is dominated by men. Nothings stopping either sex from working within a higher grade As the other poster said, rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps and apply for a higher grade job, they’d rather claim it’s inequality. I’d imagine being a caretaker is a harder/more skilled job than a cleaner, but why do a harder job for more pay when you can do an easier job and claim discrimination Glasgow Council is paying 8,000 WOMEN after losing an equal pay claim. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/17/glasgow-council-women-workers-win-12-year-equal-pay-battle But sure it's not about gender. " Where in that article does it state the council lost a claim? | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades Poorly reported, it’s not gender based and anyone that read into the story will know that the council based payouts happening in Birmingham and now other places aren’t based on sex, it’s just being reported that way because the media gets clicks Unpopular opinion : most people can’t actually read and just take what the media feeds them as long as it supports their opinion Happy to read other articles which support your opinion. Perhaps without the personal insult. It’s in the article you posted. The difference of pay is based on the grade of the job. So a man in a grade 1 job will get paid less than a woman in a grade 3 job. And vice versa. It just happens that cleaners (grade 1) is dominated by women and caretakers (grade 3) is dominated by men. Nothings stopping either sex from working within a higher grade As the other poster said, rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps and apply for a higher grade job, they’d rather claim it’s inequality. I’d imagine being a caretaker is a harder/more skilled job than a cleaner, but why do a harder job for more pay when you can do an easier job and claim discrimination Glasgow Council is paying 8,000 WOMEN after losing an equal pay claim. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/17/glasgow-council-women-workers-win-12-year-equal-pay-battle But sure it's not about gender. " Again, you only have to read the article to see it’s not a gender issue, it’s a job position issue, since women were free to be a refuse collector and get the same benefits as them, but chose not too Ultimately it boils down to the same thing “Us women (and some men) chose jobs with lower pay and lower bonuses and were upset and want more” It’s a small detail that’s easy to miss for those that don’t read much, but these pay differences are not based on gender or sex, but job position. The job positions are open to all gender and sex applicants. If you want to get paid more, apply to be a refuse collector instead of a cleaner Or just wait a few years and claim discrimination | |||
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"Apparently just having an opinion now days is controversial " That can be true. Different opinions expressed well can be very healthy and enlightening, inform and allow progress to be made. Dogma on the other hand just creates stalemate. Sadly even on here , just as in the world out there, there are often people with rather fanatical beliefs, misguided ideology, politically or otherwise fueled. Always intetesting though to see how people behave and/or express themeselves. There is always learning to be had. | |||
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"People in support of state violence against its citizens should be on a list. Not really a fan of “lists”, it tends not to end well. " It’s an unpopular opinion init. I don’t know what else to say | |||
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There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces. "Minoritised* | |||
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There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces. "It's most defintely racist to exclude white people from your 'safe space'. I'll ignore the other minorities because that wasn't your statement. You specifically said events for POC. It's cool though, your entitled to keep sowing the division you so want to get rid of | |||
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"Any Costa/McDonalds/Starbucks wrapper or container that is purchased through a drive through, should have the registration of the car printed on it. Then if found the people who litter are hedgerows will be accountable. Bring back chain gangs and the stocks too." Awesome idea ref printing reg number. Hate litter pickers. I am all for hard labour for offenders. Give something back to the community that you have leeched off for so long. Make registration plates at the very least. I'll take it one step further. There should be treadmills and concept 2 rowers and watt bikes for inmates to generate stored power. More pedal more TV. Not Xboxes. The Stocks! You barbarian! | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces. "Out of pure interest What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs? Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation? I don’t really understand the topic | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
It's most defintely racist to exclude white people from your 'safe space'.
I'll ignore the other minorities because that wasn't your statement. You specifically said events for POC.
It's cool though, your entitled to keep sowing the division you so want to get rid of "It’s as racist as women’s only spaces are sexist. But I am fine with you and anyone on this site drawing whatever conclusion of me that they want based on this statement. It’s my unpopular opinion | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic "And down the rabbit hole we go | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic "Not it would not. Fetishisation of POC in the swingers scene is clear and obvious and has been discussed at length by POC on here. | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
It's most defintely racist to exclude white people from your 'safe space'.
I'll ignore the other minorities because that wasn't your statement. You specifically said events for POC.
It's cool though, your entitled to keep sowing the division you so want to get rid of
It’s as racist as women’s only spaces are sexist.
But I am fine with you and anyone on this site drawing whatever conclusion of me that they want based on this statement. It’s my unpopular opinion "As I said, you're entitled to your opinion. | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic And down the rabbit hole we go "You’re right. I apologise and I’m leaving | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic
Not it would not.
Fetishisation of POC in the swingers scene is clear and obvious and has been discussed at length by POC on here. "It's not like black men fetishise white women, ever. | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic
Not it would not.
Fetishisation of POC in the swingers scene is clear and obvious and has been discussed at length by POC on here.
It's not like black men fetishise white women, ever. "Well at lest won’t happen at this event. | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic
Not it would not.
Fetishisation of POC in the swingers scene is clear and obvious and has been discussed at length by POC on here. "Ok I’ll keep my eyes open | |||
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"I wish there were swingers events for POC (not fetish ones )
There is. No club in this country bans POC from attending any event they so choose.
If you don’t get what I mean that’s fine
You want to exclude white people?
If I'm wrong, feel free to explain what you mean.
It is an unpopular opinion
Fair enough. Don't you agree it's right for it to be controversial? I mean, it's racist.
I mean my only opinion is that it would be nice to have safe spaces (which I know is also controversial) where you aren’t going to be fetishised and generally can feel safer being who you are. But I’m in favour of safe spaces for minorities groups whether that’s queer people, women, or poc.
I don’t know if it’s racist or sexist or straughtphobic of me but I’m in favour of those spaces.
Out of pure interest
What counts as fetishisation of POC in clubs?
Would a POC only event not count as fetishisation?
I don’t really understand the topic
Not it would not.
Fetishisation of POC in the swingers scene is clear and obvious and has been discussed at length by POC on here.
It's not like black men fetishise white women, ever.
Well at lest won’t happen at this event. "That's surely a good thing. Maybe it's the lesser of two evils. Fetishisation is much much more controversial than racism | |||
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"Warm water is better than cold water to drink - many testaments to this but makes me gag!" Take the cock out first. I've found that helps immeasurably | |||
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"Warm water is better than cold water to drink - many testaments to this but makes me gag! Take the cock out first. I've found that helps immeasurably " … makes sense | |||
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"My controversial opinion. Ban all labels, gender,race, religion and so on. Henceforth we are all referred to as us or I." This - although utter utopia that’ll never materialise on this plane | |||
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"Do not segregate child mølesters in prisons. Get some rough justice. Is this controversial? Anyone care to defend these people? Not defend them. I certainly won't agree with "rough justice" though. That just turns other people into animals. Because 'people' that råpe children aren't animals?" That was indeed my point. Turns more people into animals. Don't mistake my view - I feel sick at some of the crimes I've read about. And furious. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades" This doesn't relate to my statement and is grade based pay, if more women joined in the maintenance pay grade they'd be paid the same as their male counterparts, this article is irrelevant to what I stated it's not at all gender based. People would rather shout equality than gain the skills and switch professions. Mrs | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades This doesn't relate to my statement and is grade based pay, if more women joined in the maintenance pay grade they'd be paid the same as their male counterparts, this article is irrelevant to what I stated it's not at all gender based. People would rather shout equality than gain the skills and switch professions. Mrs " Equity over equality ( although I think the latter is a stepping stone to the former) pay people what they’re worth. I have no problem with a woman in the same role as me being paid more if she brings more value to the organisation and therefore worth it. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades This doesn't relate to my statement and is grade based pay, if more women joined in the maintenance pay grade they'd be paid the same as their male counterparts, this article is irrelevant to what I stated it's not at all gender based. People would rather shout equality than gain the skills and switch professions. Mrs Equity over equality ( although I think the latter is a stepping stone to the former) pay people what they’re worth. I have no problem with a woman in the same role as me being paid more if she brings more value to the organisation and therefore worth it." Exactly my point people should be paid on skills not gender, as the article above people in lower skilled environment wanting a higher skill wage isn't realistic. If women want equal pay they do equal work & gain equal skills. Mrs | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades This doesn't relate to my statement and is grade based pay, if more women joined in the maintenance pay grade they'd be paid the same as their male counterparts, this article is irrelevant to what I stated it's not at all gender based. People would rather shout equality than gain the skills and switch professions. Mrs Equity over equality ( although I think the latter is a stepping stone to the former) pay people what they’re worth. I have no problem with a woman in the same role as me being paid more if she brings more value to the organisation and therefore worth it. Exactly my point people should be paid on skills not gender, as the article above people in lower skilled environment wanting a higher skill wage isn't realistic. If women want equal pay they do equal work & gain equal skills. Mrs " Gender aside I think that should also be age related. I'm a carpenter and in the maintenance sector experience doesn't seem to count for shit. Someone can be newly qualified and walk into a job and get the same pay as someone who's been doing it for 40 years. Equality doesn't always mean equally in many cases it's just a tick box by an employer or industry. I'd say ageism is more of an issue than sexism. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs This article is from yesterday. Equal pay exists in legislation. Not in reality. "Sheffield city council is to become the latest local authority to face a mass equal pay claim from women who have been underpaid by up to £11,000 a year, the GMB union has said. Thousands of women will launch claims against the council on Monday over a “scandalous” job evaluation scheme that discriminates against female-dominated roles, the union claimed. It said the council is underpaying those who work in roles such as cleaning, caring or housing allocation and that comparable male-dominated jobs have higher pay grades." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/25/sheffield-council-faces-mass-equal-pay-claim-over-scandalous-pay-grades This doesn't relate to my statement and is grade based pay, if more women joined in the maintenance pay grade they'd be paid the same as their male counterparts, this article is irrelevant to what I stated it's not at all gender based. People would rather shout equality than gain the skills and switch professions. Mrs Equity over equality ( although I think the latter is a stepping stone to the former) pay people what they’re worth. I have no problem with a woman in the same role as me being paid more if she brings more value to the organisation and therefore worth it. Exactly my point people should be paid on skills not gender, as the article above people in lower skilled environment wanting a higher skill wage isn't realistic. If women want equal pay they do equal work & gain equal skills. Mrs Gender aside I think that should also be age related. I'm a carpenter and in the maintenance sector experience doesn't seem to count for shit. Someone can be newly qualified and walk into a job and get the same pay as someone who's been doing it for 40 years. Equality doesn't always mean equally in many cases it's just a tick box by an employer or industry. I'd say ageism is more of an issue than sexism." Equality not equally | |||
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"Nando's is overrated and overpriced." Yes! Their extra hot has no flavour, its just hot | |||
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"Nando’s is always disappointing. All their meals are lacking something." Chicken. | |||
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"People should be means and IQ tested before being issued with a breeding permit. " Who would clean the toilets and serve you your skinny lattes? There's only so many foreign students and migrant workers to go around. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs" I am paid less than the man who does exactly the same job as me. Same job title, same grade. Only difference is I'm Science and he's a different subject area. How does that work? | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs I am paid less than the man who does exactly the same job as me. Same job title, same grade. Only difference is I'm Science and he's a different subject area. How does that work? " It's not exactly the same job then | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs I am paid less than the man who does exactly the same job as me. Same job title, same grade. Only difference is I'm Science and he's a different subject area. How does that work? " Different areas so I'd assume not the exact same job? Is time served (experience) a thing your profession? However, if you say they're EXACTLY the same, then you defintely have cause for complaint. People in different gradings don't though. | |||
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"Equal pay already exists, women wanting equal pay should equal their skills to the male counterparts rather than complain. Mrs I am paid less than the man who does exactly the same job as me. Same job title, same grade. Only difference is I'm Science and he's a different subject area. How does that work? " If it’s truly a sex based discrimination then I’d bring it up with your employer. They’ll be quick to tell you why, or they’ll be quick to fix it because it’s illegal to pay different based on sex However I think it’s more likely there’s multiple reasons why there’s a pay difference and none of them are based on sex. Experience, difficulty in filing that role, maybe the jobs not as similar as you expect It might even be a simple case of don’t ask don’t get. Maybe he demanded more and got it where you chose not to demand more. Maybe he demanded more and they couldn’t afford to lose him but could afford to lose you? Speak to your employer. The law is on your side when it comes to sex based discrimination | |||
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