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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

MPs planning to close a gap in legislation to stop those on two wheels who effectively flout the safety of others and only cc are about themselves. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Long overdue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, there's already rules and laws that can be enforced, but are not. So I can't see new legislation making a blind bit of difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago

orpington / surrounding

From what a friend said a long time ago, Germany seem to have it right, everyone over there has to have private insurance,

Much like car insurance but without the car, so if you walk into someone and accidentally knock them over and they sustain injuries, that cause them to lose income etc they can claim on your insurance, or if you are a cyclist and cause an accident or injure someone, they can claim on your insurance. As it stands now cyclists over here cause plenty of accidents, injure themselves and other parties, cause damage to property etc but are completely free of any liability outside of a personal small claims court kind of deal which no one will ever do.

And yet if a vehicle causes and accident with a cyclist they can claim for damage to their property, lost income, injuries etc etc. very one sided considering some of the worst behaviour I’ve ever seen on the road is cyclists. And for any of the Lycra brigade in here, you get given a bad name by the minority I’m sure, the idiots who hop onto pavements to avoid traffic lights, or just completely ignore the red lights and charge through anyway, or ignore the empty multimillion pound cycle lane or cycle route marked out and ride in the middle of the road anyway which I can only assume is an act to deliberately piss off the drivers behind you

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By *ipsforlipsMan
over a year ago

Midlands

"Well, there's already rules and laws that can be enforced, but are not. So I can't see new legislation making a blind bit of difference. "

Exactly, thats how it seems near me. So many breaking road laws. New laws won't affect anything unless they can be enforced.

Is they a hidden "extra" here; that to enfore these laws in residential areas, we need yet more cameras, more AI monitoring ... is this a good thing, or just steps closer to Big Brother???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There should be a law on the dangerous recycling of Tom's favorite topic.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

Lol. More red meat for morons.

What's that quip about stupidity being the building block of the universe.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These buggers need to be held accountable

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd consider myself a cyclist although mostly mountain biking. Yeah road cyclists are a pain but more legislation. It's usually then who get hurt anyway

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It's perfectly acceptable for people to be held responsible for their actions, but the hatred of cyclists by some drivers is just ridiculous... the reality is that car drivers break many times more laws & cause many times more injuries than all other road users combined... The group that are most at risk of being injured by a cyclists is the pedestrians, but even on the footpath there are more pedestrians injured by cars than cycles.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More division - this time between motorists and cyclists

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom drives a similar route my most weekday and a cyclist who is an old boy on his way to work holds up the traffic. You know the type.. 30 years of cycling and trying to earn a crust.

On the weekend these Lycra types riding two abreast deliberately cocking a snoot.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

I used to ride a bicycle but I gave it up,

Too many cyclepaths

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Also, there is a huge difference between the kids doing wheelies everywhere & riding across junctions without looking, and the guys in lycra riding expensive carbon bikes... the reality is that all to often, drivers just don't like having to slow down for 30 seconds or a minute, even though it'll make zero difference to the length of their journey.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More division - this time between motorists and cyclists "

Dumb when most cyclists are drivers too. People are just easily played.

Over the summer we cycled in various other parts of Europe and was interesting to experience different attitudes. The most relaxed roads were often the ones with seemingly the most chaos - cyclists and pedestrians in all directions!

The safest were those where pedestrians were absolute priority, followed by cyclists and cars were expected to constantly give way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People referring to themselves in the third person are generally to be avoided

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Those cycling out of necessity in are generally decent. It's these weekend types who cause most of the issues..

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By *ichaelsmyMan
over a year ago

douglas

always was a law for it, just difficult to enforce.

but the video website is hilarious for the stupidity of the cyclists

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"It's perfectly acceptable for people to be held responsible for their actions, but the hatred of cyclists by some drivers is just ridiculous... the reality is that car drivers break many times more laws & cause many times more injuries than all other road users combined... The group that are most at risk of being injured by a cyclists is the pedestrians, but even on the footpath there are more pedestrians injured by cars than cycles.

Cal"

That's the cyclists response,car drivers do this ,car drivers do that,there are more bad drivers,drivers are just as dangerous blah blah blah blah.In other words bad drivers excuse bad cyclists.What is ridiculous about someone pointing out some cyclists are dangerous?come on tell me.I have Seen cyclists riding a bike in a way that would get them fined,points,banned even jailed if they drove a car that way.What is ridiculous about calling out behaviour that can get people killed or injured?Cyclist goes through a red light at roadworks into oncoming traffic,first car is a learner who panics and swerves into roadworks nearly hitting the road crew.Cyclist (in lycra fancy dress,not some civvy going to work) carries on totally oblivious.One of many many near serious accidents I have seen caused by cyclists.So because car drivers break more laws and do this and that and blah we don't hold idiots on two wheels accountable?That,is truly ridiculous.Not wanting to get killed or injured because some twat(or group of) is to stupid,lazy ,selfish to take their share of responsibility for the safety of other road users is ridiculous?

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

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what the fuck am I paying every year then?

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

That is why the poster is saying" give them road tax".Read properly instead of being in such a hurry to fire off a reply.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Cal

Firstly, a cyclist CAN be fined for traffic offenses, have their driving license endorsed (if they have one), and even be jailed for "driving offenses" if applicable. Just like other road users though they can only be stopped if there's a police car about.

I also agree that we have all seen some really bad cyclists doing really bad things, but no driver can "honestly" say that they don't see many times more really bad drivers.

As someone who drives a Car, a van, rides a motorcycle and rides a pushbike: The bit that is ridiculous is: The group that are the worst offenders on the roads (and pavements) insisting that the groups who are doing the least damage are held to account. I have seen cyclists ride in a terrible way, many of whom seem to have a death wish, but I still think car drivers who drive that way are of much more concern.

Yes "EVERYONE" should be accountable for their actions, but if there's any targeted action required, it is undoubtedly car drivers who need targeting first.

On the subject of "Red Lights": Do you know that most traffic lights that are triggered by sensors, don't detect cyclists. I have stood at a junction for ages watching the lights change for cars going the other way but staying on RED for me... until a car or van comes up behind me. The messages that this sends is that "if these lights don't change for me, then they must not be expecting to stop me either". I "Will Not" wait at an empty junction for a car to come so I can proceed, and I would be happy to fight that corner in court. That doesn't mean that I will ride through red lights at busy junctions, only clear ones where the lights won't change for me.

Finally... if you want cyclists to be a responsible road users, then get other road users to treat them like a responsible road user. Give them space, allow them to go when it's their right of way, don't pass them & then immediately stop or turn in front of them, and don't expect them to get out of your way "because you pay road tax"... Ultimately the MAIN reason that other road users "HATE" cyclists is because they cause you to SLOW DOWN for a few seconds.

Cal

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

That is why the poster is saying" give them road tax".Read properly instead of being in such a hurry to fire off a reply."

There is no such thing as road tax... the poster is suggesting that cycles should require road tax just like cars, because car drivers are "paying for the roads" and cyclists aren't

Cal

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Another cycle bashing thread? On yr bike Tom! X

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

That is why the poster is saying" give them road tax".Read properly instead of being in such a hurry to fire off a reply."

As someone else said no such thing as road tax! X

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By *aughty Hubby n Sexy WifeCouple
over a year ago

Scarborogh

"From what a friend said a long time ago, Germany seem to have it right, everyone over there has to have private insurance,

This all day long. Cyclists should have to display a registration plate and have insurance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let’s add in another menace on the roads - pedestrians. Always walking about, crossing the road, not paying any road tax or having insurance. Some of them even walk two abreast. They slow my journey down all the time by their actions. The opening poster must be one - in fact, he’s so proud of the fact, he is showing off his walking equipment.

These people should be held accountable.

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By *ubmissiveman2uMan
over a year ago

Cheshire

Laws are not enforced, nobody gives a toss , next thread Tom ?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Let’s add in another menace on the roads - pedestrians. Always walking about, crossing the road, not paying any road tax or having insurance. Some of them even walk two abreast. They slow my journey down all the time by their actions. The opening poster must be one - in fact, he’s so proud of the fact, he is showing off his walking equipment.

These people should be held accountable. "

All day long, they should be made to wear a Number Plate... especially all those guys in their adidas tracksuits running around at high speed with zero concern for car drivers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These people should be held accountable.

All day long, they should be made to wear a Number Plate... especially all those guys in their adidas tracksuits running around at high speed with zero concern for car drivers

Don’t get me started on them - some of them are knocked over by our magnificent drivers in this country (so much better than the drivers in the hated EU where they won’t even drive on the correct side of the road) and leave dents in their beautiful vehicles.

Something must be done

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

About time.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

About damn time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Car owners - some of them - pay vehicle excise duty which is based on the car engine size.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

Cal"

Drivers kill & injure pedestrians at a rate of 37:1 versus cyclists, with the drivers far more likely to kill.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Cal

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Drivers kill & injure pedestrians at a rate of 37:1 versus cyclists, with the drivers far more likely to kill.

That's right.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imo cyclists like proper cyclists will have insurance in a certain way I am insured through British Triathlon I pay Approximately £80 a year which covers all aspects.

Difference for me is cyclists are cyclists then you get just people on bikes and it’s mainly then who cause the problems.

I am into off road cycling and I commute to work a few days a week as well so I gladly pay my

Insurance and it covers me for any events I do as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Laws that need policing.. We going going to see police on bikes

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Imo cyclists like proper cyclists will have insurance in a certain way I am insured through British Triathlon I pay Approximately £80 a year which covers all aspects.

Difference for me is cyclists are cyclists then you get just people on bikes and it’s mainly then who cause the problems.

I am into off road cycling and I commute to work a few days a week as well so I gladly pay my

Insurance and it covers me for any events I do as well. "

Anyone who has home & contents insurance has Public Liability cover.

Mine gives me £5m of cover.

The reason drivers are legally required to hold cover is because of the massive risk of causing damage in an order of magnitude that would otherwise bankrupt them.

When cycles can cause the same amount of physical damage that a car can, then maybe it will become a legal requirement.

Til then it's just a whine from the cycle hating muppets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Laws that need policing.. We going going to see police on bikes "

I’ve seen plenty of police on bicycles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imo cyclists like proper cyclists will have insurance in a certain way I am insured through British Triathlon I pay Approximately £80 a year which covers all aspects.

Difference for me is cyclists are cyclists then you get just people on bikes and it’s mainly then who cause the problems.

I am into off road cycling and I commute to work a few days a week as well so I gladly pay my

Insurance and it covers me for any events I do as well.

Anyone who has home & contents insurance has Public Liability cover.

Mine gives me £5m of cover.

The reason drivers are legally required to hold cover is because of the massive risk of causing damage in an order of magnitude that would otherwise bankrupt them.

When cycles can cause the same amount of physical damage that a car can, then maybe it will become a legal requirement.

Til then it's just a whine from the cycle hating muppets."

Superb

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Imo cyclists like proper cyclists will have insurance in a certain way I am insured through British Triathlon I pay Approximately £80 a year which covers all aspects.

Difference for me is cyclists are cyclists then you get just people on bikes and it’s mainly then who cause the problems.

I am into off road cycling and I commute to work a few days a week as well so I gladly pay my

Insurance and it covers me for any events I do as well. "

Proper cyclist?? X

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Car owners - some of them - pay vehicle excise duty which is based on the car engine size.

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..and is referred to by every man and his dog, alongside the majority of the motoring industry as road tax

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Car owners - some of them - pay vehicle excise duty which is based on the car engine size.

..and is referred to by every man and his dog, alongside the majority of the motoring industry as road tax

Incorrectly.

'Road Tax' hasnt been ringfenced for highways maintenance since 1937.

Roads are funded from Council Tax & general taxation, & VED doesnt even begin to cover the cost to the exchequer of highways maintainance.

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Car owners - some of them - pay vehicle excise duty which is based on the car engine size.

..and is referred to by every man and his dog, alongside the majority of the motoring industry as road tax

Incorrectly.

'Road Tax' hasnt been ringfenced for highways maintenance since 1937.

Roads are funded from Council Tax & general taxation, & VED doesnt even begin to cover the cost to the exchequer of highways maintainance.

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Maybe so but I guarantee in a nationwide poll. People would call it road tax over VED. Some terms are just used even if incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

For cyclists? If so I don’t care they should bring it back for cyclists

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Car owners - some of them - pay vehicle excise duty which is based on the car engine size.

..and is referred to by every man and his dog, alongside the majority of the motoring industry as road tax

Incorrectly.

'Road Tax' hasnt been ringfenced for highways maintenance since 1937.

Roads are funded from Council Tax & general taxation, & VED doesnt even begin to cover the cost to the exchequer of highways maintainance.

Maybe so but I guarantee in a nationwide poll. People would call it road tax over VED. Some terms are just used even if incorrect."

They are, but as in this thread it's used as shorthand for 'we pay for the roads & you dont', so it's always worth correcting.

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By *ommodoCouple
over a year ago

OX16

Bring back the cycle test make them display a reg number mot once a year helmet to be worn road tax and insurance

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Bring back the cycle test make them display a reg number mot once a year helmet to be worn road tax and insurance "

And that would solve what exactly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bring back the cycle test make them display a reg number mot once a year helmet to be worn road tax and insurance

And that would solve what exactly?

It would solve the mystery as to whether cyclists aren’t twats so I agree this test is pointless because all cyclists are twats and should pay VED aka fuckin road tax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place."

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Bring back the cycle test make them display a reg number mot once a year helmet to be worn road tax and insurance

And that would solve what exactly?

Ah, so you're not worth talking to.

Thanks for letting me know so i dont waste any more time.

It would solve the mystery as to whether cyclists aren’t twats so I agree this test is pointless because all cyclists are twats and should pay VED aka fuckin road tax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with some above - road tax does definitely not exist. We have a couple of classic cars, one has a V12 engine and the other has a V8. We can drive them around our property without any problem, but the second we take them out onto the road we have to pay money to the government, but it's definitely not road tax

Bess x

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I agree with some above - road tax does definitely not exist. We have a couple of classic cars, one has a V12 engine and the other has a V8. We can drive them around our property without any problem, but the second we take them out onto the road we have to pay money to the government, but it's definitely not road tax

Bess x"

How old are your classics, they could qualify for exemption

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air. "

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

For cyclists? If so I don’t care they should bring it back for cyclists

No, for motor vehicles... for everyone... it literally doesn't exist any more.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoop

best news ever, penalise those who think they’re the sole focus of Road traffic

while you’re at it Gov, give them road tax

You do know that road tax was abolished in 1937?

For cyclists? If so I don’t care they should bring it back for cyclists

No, for motor vehicles... for everyone... it literally doesn't exist any more.

Cal"

I’m all aware now so I’m correcting my comments with VED for cyclists to ease any confusion and further history lessons

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The continentals always seem to use pushbikes a lot. Especially the Holland's and French. Was it the Europeans bringing their culture here in the Common Market era. Is the EU to blame?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The continentals always seem to use pushbikes a lot. Especially the Holland's and French. Was it the Europeans bringing their culture here in the Common Market era. Is the EU to blame?"

I genuinely don’t care who introduced anything associated with cyclists

I’m not a fan, whatsoever, of cyclists

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A

A travesty of justice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The continentals always seem to use pushbikes a lot. Especially the Holland's and French. Was it the Europeans bringing their culture here in the Common Market era. Is the EU to blame?"

And they don’t even drive on the correct side of the road do they? And some of them don’t even speak English either.

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By *osey WalesMan
over a year ago

Widen it to include the loonies using electric scooters on the roads too.

Electric scooters are illegal to use anywhere other than private land but you dont see any prosecutions.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A

"The continentals always seem to use pushbikes a lot. Especially the Holland's and French. Was it the Europeans bringing their culture here in the Common Market era. Is the EU to blame?

And they don’t even drive on the correct side of the road do they? And some of them don’t even speak English either. "

Driving through Amsterdam is absolute carnage. The trams, the bikes, you finally get onto a quiet street and then someone is winching a piano into a 3rd storey window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

No. You 'think' the air is fresh and clean because you are ignorant of reality. You care only about your own freedoms (I don't cycle so it doesn't affect me) because you are selfish.

The loss of freedom for one is a loss for all... But you are too ignorant to see that.

Remember your booster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many people are a motorist (sometimes).

A dog walker (sometimes).

A cyclist (sometimes).

Each of them get 'branded' from idiots who in their mental illness, really believe that you can only be one or the other.

You're really something.

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over a year ago

I hope all your offspring gets big fines everytime they go out in their bikes... It's all you people deserve.

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

No. You 'think' the air is fresh and clean because you are ignorant of reality. You care only about your own freedoms (I don't cycle so it doesn't affect me) because you are selfish.

The loss of freedom for one is a loss for all... But you are too ignorant to see that.

Remember your booster."

I have fought to defend my freedoms I’ll have you know fella and the air is free but not necessarily clean but keeps my lungs inflating and my vital organs kicking so I’m happy

I’m far from selfish but yeah I don’t cycle so yeah I’m not fussed but I stand by my dislike of cyclists.

I’d like to know exactly what freedoms you presume to have lost and the presumption of other freedoms lost by others

I have all my freedoms as I said before chief

I don’t need a boater btw and never had a clue jab

Ps I do hope we get a (middlefinger) emoji

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall."

And said wall would probably be more interested fella

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

No. You 'think' the air is fresh and clean because you are ignorant of reality. You care only about your own freedoms (I don't cycle so it doesn't affect me) because you are selfish.

The loss of freedom for one is a loss for all... But you are too ignorant to see that.

Remember your booster.

I have fought to defend my freedoms I’ll have you know fella and the air is free but not necessarily clean but keeps my lungs inflating and my vital organs kicking so I’m happy

I’m far from selfish but yeah I don’t cycle so yeah I’m not fussed but I stand by my dislike of cyclists.

I’d like to know exactly what freedoms you presume to have lost and the presumption of other freedoms lost by others

I have all my freedoms as I said before chief

I don’t need a boater btw and never had a clue jab

Ps I do hope we get a (middlefinger) emoji

Right... Let's unravel your latest drivelling mound of bull and hypocrisy...

You said:

"The air is free but not necessarily clean".

...Yet you said it WAS clean earlier...

You said:

"So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege".

You said:

"I’m far from selfish but yeah I don’t cycle so yeah I’m not fussed but I stand by my dislike of cyclists".

...That IS selfishness... And anyone cycling you DISLIKE?... Wow... Incredible. What a joy you must be to be around.

You said:

"I have all my freedoms as I said before chief

...Nah you're a captive with a captive mindset but too dumb for me to educate sadly.

You said:

"I don’t need a boater btw and never had a clue jab

...A 'boater'... A 'clue' jab? Are you sure you are breathing fresh-air?

And finally you said:

"Ps I do hope we get a (middlefinger) emoji

...I think they should give you one... Maybe a little gold badge or something too when you make a post to make you feel special.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

Aren't you a joyful pleasant individual

All types of road users are idiots at times. However, pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists are most at risk of death and serious injury, regardless of how sensible they are. This seems to be due not just to simple bad driving but also selfishness and a genuine and unfathomable hatred of those on 2 wheels by those in cars, vans and lorries.

If all road users were considerate of each other and their safety, it would be so much better.

Nita

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall.

And said wall would probably be more interested fella

Well evidently not because you keep replying hen. x

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall.

And said wall would probably be more interested fella

Well evidently not because you keep replying hen. x"

Firstly I’m replying because I am enjoying what I’m enjoying but thanks for pointing out my spellchecking I appreciate it but I won’t correct it for a dimwit woke…………

And my offspring need not come into this and you people wow, from a MAN such as yourself that’s bold.

Anyway cyclists suck, and I am happy with who and how I am

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall.

And said wall would probably be more interested fella

Well evidently not because you keep replying hen. x

Firstly I’m replying because I am enjoying what I’m enjoying but thanks for pointing out my spellchecking I appreciate it but I won’t correct it for a dimwit woke…………

And my offspring need not come into this and you people wow, from a MAN such as yourself that’s bold.

Anyway cyclists suck, and I am happy with who and how I am

The only thing you got right is that I'm a man.

Well done... Hen.

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over a year ago

Pringles are not good for you by the way. Just saying. I no doubt care more about your health than you do.

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over a year ago

"Many people are a motorist (sometimes).

A dog walker (sometimes).

A cyclist (sometimes).

Each of them get 'branded' from idiots who in their mental illness, really believe that you can only be one or the other.

You're really something."

Superb post - sums it up

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over a year ago

"Many people are a motorist (sometimes).

A dog walker (sometimes).

A cyclist (sometimes).

Each of them get 'branded' from idiots who in their mental illness, really believe that you can only be one or the other.

You're really something.

Superb post - sums it up "

Oh my another

yawn

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over a year ago

"Many people are a motorist (sometimes).

A dog walker (sometimes).

A cyclist (sometimes).

Each of them get 'branded' from idiots who in their mental illness, really believe that you can only be one or the other.

You're really something.

Superb post - sums it up

Oh my another

yawn

Don’t drag me into your nonsense - I wasn’t even replying to you

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"The continentals always seem to use pushbikes a lot. Especially the Holland's and French. Was it the Europeans bringing their culture here in the Common Market era. Is the EU to blame?

I genuinely don’t care who introduced anything associated with cyclists

I’m not a fan, whatsoever, of cyclists

That's pretty evident!

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over a year ago

As a cyclist, who commutes on my bike and recreationally, I follow the laws of the road as I would in a car. I also have started cycling with a camera on my bike, because I've had too many close calls with drivers just doing what they want on the road, running red lights, speeding, pulling U turns when it's not allowed. The amount of drivers who shouldn't be on the road.

Yeah I see some people acting like idiots on bikes, usually it's meat heads who ride with no helmets and the like.

The police should really focus on taking the actual danger off the roads with the fucking awful drivers.

On average nearly 300 pedestrians are killed by drivers a year, where as only 3 on average are killed by cyclists. 80% of all casualties on the road are caused by cars/drivers.

Also, I have insurance on my bike, because I don't wanna be out of pocket when a tosser who shouldn't be behind a wheel inevitably hits me.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"As a cyclist, who commutes on my bike and recreationally, I follow the laws of the road as I would in a car. I also have started cycling with a camera on my bike, because I've had too many close calls with drivers just doing what they want on the road, running red lights, speeding, pulling U turns when it's not allowed. The amount of drivers who shouldn't be on the road.

Yeah I see some people acting like idiots on bikes, usually it's meat heads who ride with no helmets and the like.

The police should really focus on taking the actual danger off the roads with the fucking awful drivers.

On average nearly 300 pedestrians are killed by drivers a year, where as only 3 on average are killed by cyclists. 80% of all casualties on the road are caused by cars/drivers.

Also, I have insurance on my bike, because I don't wanna be out of pocket when a tosser who shouldn't be behind a wheel inevitably hits me.

Unfortunately, the police need to be there to see things happen. The police are not to blame, there are just not even close to being enough of them.

I too have insurance, and cameras too. Unfortunately there's no point in reporting the near misses as there isn't enough resource available to even have a chat with bad drivers.

What would be nice is to get rid of the "them and us" mindset. 90% of drivers I encounter are great, but the 10% think that cycles shouldn't be on the road, and should get out of their way. Personally, I just want a bit of space and patience... exactly the same as when I'm driving.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can submit camera footage online to the police.

They check it and where appropriate will issue points or warnings.

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over a year ago

"Unfortunately, the police need to be there to see things happen. The police are not to blame, there are just not even close to being enough of them.

I too have insurance, and cameras too. Unfortunately there's no point in reporting the near misses as there isn't enough resource available to even have a chat with bad drivers.

Cal"

I've managed to get a few people warning letters or points/fines from my footage. Fuck around and find out

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over a year ago

"The more freedoms they take from you the more you applaud. You are heading into a very very dark place.

Are you referring to moi?

I’m not a cyclist and I’ve had no freedoms removed from my life

You are not even free to breath fresh clean air.

So what am I doing right now? That’s correct I’m breathing fresh air and not paying for the privilege

So again bring in VED and harsh fines for cyclists

...Breathing fresh air as your (not a bike) spits out toxic gases? - You are also a hypocrite.

I could go on, but what's the point... I'd get more sense out of a wall.

And said wall would probably be more interested fella

Well evidently not because you keep replying hen. x

Firstly I’m replying because I am enjoying what I’m enjoying but thanks for pointing out my spellchecking I appreciate it but I won’t correct it for a dimwit woke…………

And my offspring need not come into this and you people wow, from a MAN such as yourself that’s bold.

Anyway cyclists suck, and I am happy with who and how I am

An 'idiot' on a bike is the very same idiot when in a car.

You're hatred for 'cyclists' is insanity... And hatred of others stems from a hatred of ourselves.

I sincerely hope you will engage your brain more... Maybe even start trying to resolve all of the contradictory thoughts that must constantly swim around in it.

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By *un-n-frolicsMan
over a year ago

London

"From what a friend said a long time ago, Germany seem to have it right, everyone over there has to have private insurance,

Why would you assume they (ok, we) only want to piss off drivers? There are many situations where the middle of the road is safer. Potholes, which we may have seen or expect, the driver not; or to overtake a slower cyclist; or because we know that particular section of road a narrow and a driver overtaking would be dangerous. Unfortunately they often try anyway, almost causing an accident.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"From what a friend said a long time ago, Germany seem to have it right, everyone over there has to have private insurance,

The law says that cyclists should ride "at least 1m away" from the kerb, but most cycle lanes are not even 1m wide. On my normal ride to work, about half of the route has a cycle lane, I will generally encounter 2 or 3 cars parked in the cycle lanes. There are also a number of locations where the road bends, and 80% of cars "take the apex" like they're in a race... cutting across the cycle lane. At junctions, there is no cycle lane marked through the junction, and again MOST cars will move completely left to the kerb, leaving zero space for me. Then there's the "advanced stop line", that zone at a junction with a picture of a car in it... there's nearly always a car in there when I get to the lights. The whole point of that zone is so bikes can be visible to stop people turning into them at the junction.

If they want cyclists to use the bike lanes, then make sure that they can.

Cal

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over a year ago

Cyclists move to the middle of the lane to ensure their own safety, not to 'piss off' some impatient entitled asshole in a vehicle behind them.

The highway code refers to it as the 'primary position'.

If you can't use the roads considerately, maybe take a train.

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By *evonshireboyMan
over a year ago

North Devon

These people should be held accountable.

All day long, they should be made to wear a Number Plate... especially all those guys in their adidas tracksuits running around at high speed with zero concern for car drivers

Something must be done "

I went abroad once.

Absolute nightmare! Every single driver except me was on the wrong side of the road!

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over a year ago

"Those cycling out of necessity in are generally decent. It's these weekend types who cause most of the issues.. "

If we give you a doll, can you point to where the nasty cyclist touched you?

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By *hastityPleasureGiverMan
over a year ago

Rotherham

"MPs planning to close a gap in legislation to stop those on two wheels who effectively flout the safety of others and only cc are about themselves. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news "

A very good idea but completely pointless.

There are no requirement for identification on bikes so unless you catch them in the act which is unlikely, they won't be punished. It will make very little difference.

Just like the laws on scrabbler bikes and quad bikes, they illegally ride all over the place and literally a handful have been caught.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Riding on the path is the safest option. I bet the parents of the 13 year old cycling to school who was killed near walsall last week wished he was on the path.

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