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By *heirry84 OP   Man
over a year ago

Midlands

Was reading an interesting article about attractiveness. Apparently women find 80% of men unattractive where as men only find 50% of all women... As I was reading it fab definitely came to mind.

It's good to know that us blokes are not only outgunned because of our huge numbers but also biologically.... can't bloody win!

Just wondered what women think of this? Not sure why, might just depress me further

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Back to primal genetics, women have always been more selective in choosing a mate.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

If you fail to attract anyone at all just remember, it can't be you or anything you can remedy, it's just women and their weird want to be attracted to the people they fuck

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance"

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know many people will turn someone down just based on looks but I find that if you connect to them on other levels attraction can happen. We just need to be less picky about the book cover so to speak x

I have know the most amazing looking men but when you talk to them they are so ignorant and pig headed.

Maybe I feel this way because I don’t have the best book cover ????????? something to ponder ??

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Back to primal genetics, women have always been more selective in choosing a mate."

Women aren't the only ones some rare guys are also

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"Back to primal genetics, women have always been more selective in choosing a mate."

This... some of us are seeking different things than what some men are

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample. "

Really, that's interesting was okcupid a dating site?

Does this mean that only 20% of men are in relationships or that many women are with men they find unattractive ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if that’s true then 80% of women are having to settle for someone unattractive when they partner up, versus only 50% of men.

1-0 to the patriarchy!

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I definitely find men my age unattractive but, I like to get to know someone for attractiveness to grow. I do find the men often think they are gorgeous.

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

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By *rixie_BlondeWoman
over a year ago

London (She/Her)


"Was reading an interesting article about attractiveness. Apparently women find 80% of men unattractive where as men only find 50% of all women... As I was reading it fab definitely came to mind.

It's good to know that us blokes are not only outgunned because of our huge numbers but also biologically.... can't bloody win!

Just wondered what women think of this? Not sure why, might just depress me further "

This is bullshit spread by incels and toxic grifters trying to make money by telling guys how to “alpha”.

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample.

Really, that's interesting was okcupid a dating site?

Does this mean that only 20% of men are in relationships or that many women are with men they find unattractive ?

"

OKCupid now have an app that swipes like Tinder! It's a decent dating site, famous for the amount of sexuality options it gives people. It's (like Fab) ok enough to use free.

If they are really from OKC, I wouldn't go by these old stats at all though folks!!!

pt

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Was reading an interesting article about attractiveness. Apparently women find 80% of men unattractive where as men only find 50% of all women... As I was reading it fab definitely came to mind.

It's good to know that us blokes are not only outgunned because of our huge numbers but also biologically.... can't bloody win!

Just wondered what women think of this? Not sure why, might just depress me further

"

Where did you see this quoted OP?

pt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignoring the fact that they have missed medium (how can 80pc be below medium when by defn it's 50pc!) the other interesting fact is women tend to message those they score lower whereas men only tend to message the hottest.

Which kinda ties in with some evolutionary biology theories if this is because women look for more than just looks when selecting for the other half of their kids genetics.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

These sort of numbers/patterns are accepted as being the norm for online dating (and I suspect same on Fab). So how does a guy stand a chance? I propose the real world is different from the online world. I think too many people over use online apps to find people. Online you really struggle to get that vibe, eye contact and body language which is so important. I think it leads to some great guys getting overlooked. I think people would benifit more from the real world and discover a far more varied selection of great people. From a Fab context I would say people need to get out more in the social/club/party scene and be less on fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ignoring the fact that they have missed medium (how can 80pc be below medium when by defn it's 50pc!) the other interesting fact is women tend to message those they score lower whereas men only tend to message the hottest.

Which kinda ties in with some evolutionary biology theories if this is because women look for more than just looks when selecting for the other half of their kids genetics. "

This! The study quoted SO often also found that women tended to message the average and not so average men the most. But that is never mentioned when the 80/20 rule is cited. For some reason...

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample.

Really, that's interesting was okcupid a dating site?

Does this mean that only 20% of men are in relationships or that many women are with men they find unattractive ?"

This is an old article by todays pace, maybe 2009. It was before OKC was bought by Match. A search engine should find it or a recycled version of it. But the number crunching behind the article has never been debunked afaik.

Does it mean that women settle? You tell me.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample.

Really, that's interesting was okcupid a dating site?

Does this mean that only 20% of men are in relationships or that many women are with men they find unattractive ?

This is an old article by todays pace, maybe 2009. It was before OKC was bought by Match. A search engine should find it or a recycled version of it. But the number crunching behind the article has never been debunked afaik.

Does it mean that women settle? You tell me. "

They do when they are looking to settle down and have children in my view.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"They do when they are looking to settle down and have children in my view."

Thank god I don't want to breed and settle for someone that doesn't excite me then

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I find far less than 20% of men attractive. Did the article point out that probably as individuals women are unlikely to find the same 80% unattractive thereby giving almost all men a chance

This is based on data from the old ok Cupid blog. You can probably find the original article but it's not on OKC anymore. From what I remember it's the same 20% that is considered attractive. It's a long time since I read the article but it was based on showing women the same sample.

Really, that's interesting was okcupid a dating site?

Does this mean that only 20% of men are in relationships or that many women are with men they find unattractive ?

This is an old article by todays pace, maybe 2009. It was before OKC was bought by Match. A search engine should find it or a recycled version of it. But the number crunching behind the article has never been debunked afaik.

Does it mean that women settle? You tell me. "

I can only answer for myself and say, no and I think anyone who's seen my partner would agree.

As these statistics are often used as an explanation for why men don't get as much sex as they want I'd say that possibly the answer is no for other women too.

'Do women feel they don't deserve or won't be attractive to very attractive men due to low self esteem?' Is another question altogether

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

When looking for a life partner attractiveness is not the most important quality in my opinion.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"When looking for a life partner attractiveness is not the most important quality in my opinion."

Physical attractiveness maybe but all round attraction is vital surely!

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

I think it's more than 80%. Women usually focus more on 'that bloke on the telly' or 'him in that film' even when in a relationship. But hey, it makes up gents rise to the challenge. See what I did there

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I don't find men attractive at all unless I get to know them a little, I can safely say I've never looked at a guy and thought I want to fuck him, my brain doesn't work like that.

I do think men are more aesthetically pleased than women (not all obviously) and women are more attracted to the whole package rather than aesthetics only.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another angle.

Women take more care with profile pics (and dare I say it filters) whereas men are shocking.

And maybe women allows for this. So aren't settling.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A

Is it as binary as attractive/unattractive?

Instant attraction is a lot rarer than 50% for me. Off the top of my head one in a thousand maybe? No idea.

My instant thought is how do I know if I am attracted to them if I don't get to know them?

And then I can lose that attraction later. So does that mean that they were never attractive to me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't find men attractive at all unless I get to know them a little, I can safely say I've never looked at a guy and thought I want to fuck him, my brain doesn't work like that.

I do think men are more aesthetically pleased than women (not all obviously) and women are more attracted to the whole package rather than aesthetics only.

Mrs "

Oh Mrs, I feel precisely the same. Good looks just aren't enough for me.

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By *heirry84 OP   Man
over a year ago

Midlands

I also read that we aren't supposed to be monogamous because of tribe mentality. Apparently when we used to be in smaller tribes men and women would sleep with all the members of the tribe so you had no idea which child was your own. Meaning you would protect the whole tribe because you would effectively be one big family

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"I also read that we aren't supposed to be monogamous because of tribe mentality. Apparently when we used to be in smaller tribes men and women would sleep with all the members of the tribe so you had no idea which child was your own. Meaning you would protect the whole tribe because you would effectively be one big family"

I think all the women in the tribe would know which baby was theirs!

But I know what you mean, OP...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Through out all modern human civilisation 20% of men have slept with 80% of the woman

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish


"Through out all modern human civilisation 20% of men have slept with 80% of the woman "

This sounds scientific. What about the remaining 80% of men and 20% 'of the woman'

J

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

We are not the pack animals we have been in our evolutionary past. We can still bare our teeth, and there are still alpha males who impregnate lots of women. Statistically more women do cheat than men due to that. But it's just a statistic. More men throw punches than women. Look at people individually and it's all evaporates. We are humans, Spock! And together we are more, we can still be human in a global pack! pt

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