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" we will remember them " No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " | |||
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"Will Americans be doing anything to observe 7/7? I wouldn't imagine they've even heard of it. " 52 people were killed. Not quite as many as in the Twin Towers. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " There were, amongst many other nationalities, 67 British deaths in 9/11 with a total of 57 nationalities in all amongst the 2,996. For those interested the full Lawrence Bunyon poem is here:- https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57322/for-the-fallen | |||
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"I still remember it like yesterday & will never forget x J x" Same here, it feels like it was yesterday as well x. | |||
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"It is such a painful day for me. As it is significant to the biggest loss of my life, but that is not related to this event. And I feel a sense of shame that it overshadows something as huge as this. It is a very peculiar feeling and really not a very pleasant one. I remember exactly where I was. I was stood in the front room of my gf house. She'd just broke my heart and was acting like she didn't care, she was twisting the knife, she liked to do that. Then I saw it on the TV and the weight of it hit me. Hit us both. A stunned silence. It suspended her viciousness. Well until I tried to leave and then she tried to stab me. I nearly lost my life that day. There's so much personal pain associated with this day for me. When in another timeline, one less cruel, it should actually be a happy day, a day for celebration. And I feel a sense of guilt that I can't do that also. Ambivalence is cruel. My heart would go out to those that lost loved ones and those that died in such horrendous circumstances. If I had anything left in me to give today. Like the people who died in the IRA bombing, in my home town. That for some reason entwines itself with this memory. Terror I think, the terror on their faces, thick in the air permeating everyone's bodies and anyone with any sense remaining could see in everyone's faces the fine veil of safety, now obvious by its absence. I feel sorry for anyone who has experienced that sheer terror. It stays with you. The thought of anyone dying let alone a loved one, in such a way - is horrendous. I apologise for my self-indulgence but I had to express that. Whatever it is - it is too painful to keep in. If only humans could be a little kinder. " Fuck ...I'm so sorry you went through that.... hugs x | |||
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"I still remember it like yesterday & will never forget x J xSame here, it feels like it was yesterday as well x." I was holding my newborn baby in my arms wondering what the hell the world would hold for them. My grandparents were on a flight to the USA for a family wedding. They were diverted to Gander, Newfoundland, Canada for 3 days. We visited the memorial in NY in 2020 & I cried most of the way round | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " Needlessly unpleasant, I don’t see why anyone should have a monopoly on remembrance or how it’s phrased. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " British and Commonwealth | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. Needlessly unpleasant, I don’t see why anyone should have a monopoly on remembrance or how it’s phrased. " Having served in Afghanistan, repatriated dead boys and girls and attended the cenotaph on duty and hearing the words many many times, I along with most ex and still serving personnel would echo my comments. It's an opinion that you didn't like or would have the foggiest what it ACTUALLY means. Stand up and salute on 7/7 every year? Grenfell? Think a little closer to home. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. Needlessly unpleasant, I don’t see why anyone should have a monopoly on remembrance or how it’s phrased. Having served in Afghanistan, repatriated dead boys and girls and attended the cenotaph on duty and hearing the words many many times, I along with most ex and still serving personnel would echo my comments. It's an opinion that you didn't like or would have the foggiest what it ACTUALLY means. Stand up and salute on 7/7 every year? Grenfell? Think a little closer to home." For some of us this day is closer to home than those days, or just as close. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. Needlessly unpleasant, I don’t see why anyone should have a monopoly on remembrance or how it’s phrased. Having served in Afghanistan, repatriated dead boys and girls and attended the cenotaph on duty and hearing the words many many times, I along with most ex and still serving personnel would echo my comments. It's an opinion that you didn't like or would have the foggiest what it ACTUALLY means. Stand up and salute on 7/7 every year? Grenfell? Think a little closer to home." I think you’re missing the point entirely, no matter who died or where they are deserving of remembrance. If anything it’s you that need to be a little more broad minded Thanks for your service but don’t presume to be the arbiter of who remembers what and how. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " "phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces" Just where did you dig that statement up from?? Are you seriously suggesting that we do not recognise/ remember/pay our respects to any of our world wide allies....Americans, Aussies, Ghurkha's ect etc that have lost their lives to terrorism?? Oh and before you get on your high horse, I joined the RN in 1964 went to sea in a WW2 submarine at the age of 15 and some 59 years later am still working within British Government | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. Needlessly unpleasant, I don’t see why anyone should have a monopoly on remembrance or how it’s phrased. Having served in Afghanistan, repatriated dead boys and girls and attended the cenotaph on duty and hearing the words many many times, I along with most ex and still serving personnel would echo my comments. It's an opinion that you didn't like or would have the foggiest what it ACTUALLY means. Stand up and salute on 7/7 every year? Grenfell? Think a little closer to home." Your attitude is not what the military teaches,it's offensive to the relatives and friends,including 6O odd Brits. | |||
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"Why the fuck can't we just have this day to remember our lost people, and to have others appreciate our losses, without someone getting all moody, political and generally dickish about it? Human lives were lost. Human lives were affected, are affected and always will be affected by the events of that day. It doesn't take away from any other loss or life and no other loss of life is more or less important except to the individuals affected by those losses. Every year those of us who have lost people in a well publicised way not only have to deal with our loss, we have to deal with the mass debates and conspiracy theories that take the attention away from the real, human story. It hurts all over again anyway, why make it worse? You know what, I will remember them. We will remember them. Because we should. Whoever they are, however they were lost. And whatever the reason. No one gets to tell me how to grieve, or what words I can and can't use to honour the best man I ever knew. Fuck that." well said. | |||
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"Why the fuck can't we just have this day to remember our lost people, and to have others appreciate our losses, without someone getting all moody, political and generally dickish about it? Human lives were lost. Human lives were affected, are affected and always will be affected by the events of that day. It doesn't take away from any other loss or life and no other loss of life is more or less important except to the individuals affected by those losses. Every year those of us who have lost people in a well publicised way not only have to deal with our loss, we have to deal with the mass debates and conspiracy theories that take the attention away from the real, human story. It hurts all over again anyway, why make it worse? You know what, I will remember them. We will remember them. Because we should. Whoever they are, however they were lost. And whatever the reason. No one gets to tell me how to grieve, or what words I can and can't use to honour the best man I ever knew. Fuck that." | |||
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"I still remember it like yesterday & will never forget x J xSame here, it feels like it was yesterday as well x. I was holding my newborn baby in my arms wondering what the hell the world would hold for them. My grandparents were on a flight to the USA for a family wedding. They were diverted to Gander, Newfoundland, Canada for 3 days. We visited the memorial in NY in 2020 & I cried most of the way round " I see yes, it is good that they were ok. I remembered that I was watching a program and suddenly it was interrupted by the bbc news covering what was happening there. I couldnt believe what was about to be unfolding there. | |||
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" Having served in Afghanistan, repatriated dead boys and girls and attended the cenotaph on duty and hearing the words many many times, I along with most ex and still serving personnel would echo my comments. It's an opinion that you didn't like or would have the foggiest what it ACTUALLY means. " You are exhibiting a very narrow mindset and perhaps demonstrating a lack of understanding. Do you know where the line “We will remember them” comes from? It was written in 1914 by Lawrence Binyon, in a poem called “The Fallen”. Later, it was adopted by the Royal British Legion. You will of course have heard it many times, especially at the Cenotaph. I’m sure, I hope, that it’s not lost on you that the war in Afghanistan was triggered by the 9/11 attacks? Irrespective of any political views, surely In commemorating the lives lost in that war can extend to the lives lost that triggered the war? | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. "phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces" Just where did you dig that statement up from?? Are you seriously suggesting that we do not recognise/ remember/pay our respects to any of our world wide allies....Americans, Aussies, Ghurkha's ect etc that have lost their lives to terrorism?? Oh and before you get on your high horse, I joined the RN in 1964 went to sea in a WW2 submarine at the age of 15 and some 59 years later am still working within British Government " It is a line from Laurance Binyons 'Ode to the Fallen', written about those that lost thier lives in the first world war. It has become an integral party of the Rememberance day ceremony. | |||
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" we will remember them No we won't. And don't use a phrase dedicated to the fallen British armed forces for the American civilians. " Ayyy? Just because you respect British war dead, doesn’t mean you can’t empathise with the families of murdered civilians. There’s no monopoly on those words. Blimey! Gbat (Kabul 2011-2012) | |||
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"Will Americans be doing anything to observe 7/7? I wouldn't imagine they've even heard of it. " Or the many bombings by the IRA? | |||
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