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"It’s the capitalism. It gets you. Not me though. I’m woke. Stay woke brothers. " Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! | |||
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"It’s the capitalism. It gets you. Not me though. I’m woke. Stay woke brothers. Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! " what about them? | |||
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"It’s the capitalism. It gets you. Not me though. I’m woke. Stay woke brothers. Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! what about them? " Inclusion, dude | |||
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"Every piece of marketing is designed to influence your decisions, same for news and media in general. Some people are more susceptible to it than others." Yes, you are right there that it is designed in such away and yes, some are more susceptible than others | |||
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"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy." Yes. I also heard from few behavioral psychologists about that, how they were able to do it, about formations as well, it was interesting. | |||
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"No utter rubbish I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party." Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie | |||
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"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure. They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs. They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things. I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people. What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? " Had a think about this and remembered a programme I watched about violence it was on bbc4 it should be on the iplayer, so yes we are all controlled, for our own good it seems, have a watch it is relevant to this thread but goes further. | |||
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"It’s the capitalism. It gets you. Not me though. I’m woke. Stay woke brothers. Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! what about them? Inclusion, dude " Inclusion? Stay woke | |||
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"No utter rubbish I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party. Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie" I dunno I was watching TV and the adverts came on next thing I'm signing up to buy a new beemer. | |||
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"Totally. We are being influenced from the moment we are born. " Nonsense I was born believing that fat bodies are undesirable!!! | |||
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"No utter rubbish I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party. Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie I dunno I was watching TV and the adverts came on next thing I'm signing up to buy a new beemer." Take a soma.. take two. Let it wash your cares away. | |||
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"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born." Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion | |||
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"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion " I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves. I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously. | |||
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"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves. I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously." Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it. | |||
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"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves. I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously.Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it." Indeed... I can't answer that one for you. I gave up tormenting myself thinking about people 'in the group sense'. After I read Audre Lorde. Now I am interested in the motivations of the individual. Dissolving the part of the oppressor within myself. If there is any observable commonality it is the need for love and acceptance. I suspect it is that which is being manipulated. Although, I did watch a speech by Angela Davis a couple of weeks ago. She said something along the lines of. 'why are we no longer talking about class, about wealth inequality and the social issues that creates? See look at how awkward the room has become just at the mention of the word.' | |||
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"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else? " I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'? A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite. 'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's minds | |||
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"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion " You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say. But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control. pt | |||
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"Totally. We are being influenced from the moment we are born. " Yes, you are right there, that we are influenced from the moment we are born as well | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr " -Clearly you are the one who's been mind-controlled here. Forget about the very nature of science (ie the *overwhelming* consensus from the entire global scientific community), you have decided covid-19 was a cold. But *how* did you get to that conclusion may I ask? And I personally think about all on your 'list' before accepting those things or not. Who are you to say nobody (else ) does that? And of course you exempt yourself regarding covid, and much else on your list no doubt. Such egotism! And such ignorance regarding the pandemic too. Yet again in our history, courageous people died to save the lives of the ignorant. I spoke to a woman yesterday who's friend tragically lost two colleagues, both close friends (ie two nurses) to this virus. Medical staff (not always super healthy but always hard working) lost the most young working people. Hospitals were inundated (both worked in a new purpose-built ward that was built), and largely due to terminally slow governance when it mattered, only the eventual vaccines (which were only even enforced for a few, but fortunately take by many) managed to control the situation in the end, keep that r number down, and allowed us to finally get back on the road. Honestly, this is so gross you may as well be saying the Blackout was mind control. The people who observed were utter heroes. And everyone is weak at some point in their lives! (I wasn't well at the time it came). Why do so many people think they are so selectively tough? And to cap it all, ALL of this embarrassingly empty pseudoscience and 'post-truth' is ENTIRELY 'off the top of the phone'! Yet people have the gall to talk about 'mind control'! Mobile phones (and the likes of QAnon and Andrew Tate) have actually proven how terrifyingly easy it is to control the weak-minded yet horribly cynical people of this world. If it wasn't for maths and science you wouldn't own your damn phone! We got them way before the world was ready in my view. Largely through hyper-exploitation to make them affordable, as what makes up their components is mined often-dangerously for a pittance from all over the globe. They are technologically astonishing and we simply do not deserve them. There are days I would take them off some people I swear. Love and peace to all who died and lost. pt | |||
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"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say. But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control. pt" Most people don’t differentiate religion from faith. Religion , science , government and most media are very similar - people believing what they have read or been told by others, but not experienced directly themselves. | |||
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"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say. But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control. pt Most people don’t differentiate religion from faith. " I really don't think that's true actually (ie in the differentiating and perhaps even 'spiritual' sense I alluded to), not in modern times anyway. In the UK less than 50% affiliate with a religion now, yet over half of believes in a maker. A lot of people are calling themselves 'agnostic' these days too, as atheism feels like a religion too sometimes. Certain aspect of various doctrine aside, the truth is very obviously that we Don't Know, and any disagreement over 'Moment-0' doesn't ultimately effect science etc, so what does it matter? pt | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr " How do you know? | |||
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"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing. " That is incredibly judgemental. I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!! Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed. Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought. And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved! Why are people so judgemental? pt | |||
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"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing. That is incredibly judgemental. I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!! Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed. Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought. And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved! Why are people so judgemental? pt " I was reading about it 2019 saw that the john hopkins centre did preparation scenario. | |||
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"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing. That is incredibly judgemental. I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!! Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed. Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought. And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved! Why are people so judgemental? pt I was reading about it 2019 saw that the john hopkins centre did preparation scenario. " -They did that in 2019 you mean. I think our antisocial government have ignored more than one test scenario in this area. Then when it finally comes it's all about giving the contracts as start-ups to their school connections - contracts where we have to now wait months until they are fulfilled. The Tories will certainly have seen any future pandemic as a slowly-slowly, tread carefully money spinner. We still needed to observe it though! pt | |||
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"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else? I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'? A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite. 'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's minds" Yes, that is a good question, there seem to be a thing going around that the 5 richest families in the world have an influence and orchestrating of what is happening, to name few of them, rockefeller and rothschild, yes. I have also noticed that on the internet forums as well | |||
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"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy." Conformity theory will go along way to explain this rather well. | |||
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"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy.Yes. I also heard from few behavioral psychologists about that, how they were able to do it, about formations as well, it was interesting." The term is called mass formation psycosis. | |||
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"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else? I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'? A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite. 'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's mindsYes, that is a good question, there seem to be a thing going around that the 5 richest families in the world have an influence and orchestrating of what is happening, to name few of them, rockefeller and rothschild, yes. I have also noticed that on the internet forums as well " Bingo! | |||
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"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves. I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously.Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it. Indeed... I can't answer that one for you. I gave up tormenting myself thinking about people 'in the group sense'. After I read Audre Lorde. Now I am interested in the motivations of the individual. Dissolving the part of the oppressor within myself. If there is any observable commonality it is the need for love and acceptance. I suspect it is that which is being manipulated. Although, I did watch a speech by Angela Davis a couple of weeks ago. She said something along the lines of. 'why are we no longer talking about class, about wealth inequality and the social issues that creates? See look at how awkward the room has become just at the mention of the word.'" Yes. I havent heard about audre lorde, it seems interesting and that is right, it seems to have become awkward too | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr " Yes, you are right there, many dont even know it and I also agree that the mind is very easily controlled too | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr Yes, you are right there, many dont even know it and I also agree that the mind is very easily controlled too " Hold on, he said everyone's controlled but you're saying it's not everyone Try googling Third Party Effect | |||
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"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure. They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs. They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things. I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people. What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? " Read Yuval Noah Harari. His latest two books on sapiens and twenty one lessons for the 21st century, are great insights into humanity as a race and poses huge about the individual. I guess we are just not very special, but we do experience love… that is very important, I think… Lennon and McCarney certainly thought so! | |||
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"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure. They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs. They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things. I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people. What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? Read Yuval Noah Harari. His latest two books on sapiens and twenty one lessons for the 21st century, are great insights into humanity as a race and poses huge about the individual. I guess we are just not very special, but we do experience love… that is very important, I think… Lennon and McCarney certainly thought so! " POSES HUGE QUESTIONS !!! Sorry | |||
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"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure. They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs. They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things. I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people. What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? " I think that there is a massive difference between "Mind Control" and influence. The things described here are influence rather than control. Most of these techniques only work on certain types of people. Cal | |||
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"We are all being controlled one way or another. Controlled by laws, price of goods, media etc It will only get worse as we become more compliant. " Not really being "controlled"! Restricted by laws and price of goods, and directed by the media (including conspiracy channels)... if you choose to take part. Cal | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr " Everyone except you, right? | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr Everyone except you, right? " No.... "they" made him say that | |||
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" Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr Everyone except you, right? No.... "they" made him say that" It’s endlessly amusing how everyone else is a sheep except them, cuz they’re Awake. It’s like the vast majority of drivers believe they’re above average. | |||
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"Interesting subject. I first thought it was bull, like the Columbo Episode with the subliminal cuts, that made the victim thirsty. Then remote viewing by the CIA, thought it was bull. Then Timothy McVay the man who blew up a CIA building saying he was controlled, yeh bull. Then I saw Darren Brown, set up a robbery with 4 people who didn't know each other, influenced a guy to shoot Stephen Fry showing a little of how he did it.then I thought there maybe something in this." Yes, it is interesting too. I like darren brown and I have also seen some of his set ups doing those things. | |||
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"Interesting subject. I first thought it was bull, like the Columbo Episode with the subliminal cuts, that made the victim thirsty. Then remote viewing by the CIA, thought it was bull. Then Timothy McVay the man who blew up a CIA building saying he was controlled, yeh bull. Then I saw Darren Brown, set up a robbery with 4 people who didn't know each other, influenced a guy to shoot Stephen Fry showing a little of how he did it.then I thought there maybe something in this." You think Derren Brown is capable of influencing people to commit robbery and murder? | |||
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"Your mind it already controlled. Did you get vaccinated ? Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ? Are you religious ? Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ? Do you obey the law ? Can you drive on the left side of the road ? Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ? But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you. Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it. The mr Everyone except you, right? " No I am controlled, I pay my taxes and be a good little sheep like the rest of us, I’m not stupid you play by the rules or they take your so called freedom away. The mr | |||
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