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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town

If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works? "

It's hard going out there at the moment, and the market isn't as peachy as the government will try and convince us.

Tell them to look online for CV guidance, that can have a big impact. There's a guy on LinkedIn and Insta called Paddy Jobsman. Gives loads of great CV and interview tips. Start there I'd say

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works?

It's hard going out there at the moment, and the market isn't as peachy as the government will try and convince us.

Tell them to look online for CV guidance, that can have a big impact. There's a guy on LinkedIn and Insta called Paddy Jobsman. Gives loads of great CV and interview tips. Start there I'd say"

Useful thanks.

Serial rejection isnt great for emotional needs either.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

It's been a while but we used to send a CV to places we were interested in regardless of whether they were recruiting or not and register with agencies.

When the kids were looking for holiday or weekend work or just something to tide them over between jobs they used to just go in to shops, pubs, cafés etc and ask.

It's ruthless and employers seem to think they have the upper hand.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Yes but like alot of youngsters they want easy job's and big money.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works?

It's hard going out there at the moment, and the market isn't as peachy as the government will try and convince us.

Tell them to look online for CV guidance, that can have a big impact. There's a guy on LinkedIn and Insta called Paddy Jobsman. Gives loads of great CV and interview tips. Start there I'd say

Useful thanks.

Serial rejection isnt great for emotional needs either. "

Our son experienced similar to your children.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Also the shortage of labour is in the jobs not many people want to do. In this area you'll easily pick up hospitality work in the summer especially if you have experience and care work all year round.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Last applied for a job May 2017. Got it through an agency after a couple of weeks looking. Here in the Thames Valley jobs are pretty easy to get. But I'm older now I wonder if that would be an impediment.

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By *nitterWoman
over a year ago

the land of tall tales and yarn

Got head hunted for my current role, but that's just the line of work I'm in.

One of my little peeps just started a part time role whilst he studies, it wasn't difficult as it's hospitality.

The field your son is looking at and his qualifications will have an impact.

A strong CV is very important, ensure he is on LinkedIn and clean up any social media pages. Trust me Employers will look.

Good luck to your son.

Knitter

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Yes but like alot of youngsters they want easy job's and big money.

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And you make that judgement based on ? Sorry but that's just a cheap shot. I know a lot of kids who work outrageously hard in zero hours contracts, too scared to take a holiday or sick day in case they lose their shitty job.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Yes but like alot of youngsters they want easy job's and big money.

And you make that judgement based on ? Sorry but that's just a cheap shot. I know a lot of kids who work outrageously hard in zero hours contracts, too scared to take a holiday or sick day in case they lose their shitty job.

"

Based on my daughter and her fiance.

Whilst she now has a good job he is unemployed again and when discussing it with him he just applies for what he considers "cushy" job's.

I also with my job come into contact with a lot of teachers and they all say pretty much the same thing if you get chatting.

They all want to be influencers or game designer.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

After my second to last IT job I took a year out to skill-up. When looking, I signed up with an agency who got me one within a couple of months. At the interview, I sold myself. I got across to the interviewer I would fit in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My only bit of advice is make the first page, if not first half, of his CV banging with all the required buzz words and qualifications/experiences suitable to the job being applied for.

Most CV are glanced at and of the applicant has done the research of the job vacancy they can manipulate the CV to make it to interview stage

A one hit wonder CV is not the best

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I think for anyone trying to stand out is difficult as it's tricky to get your personality across on a CV.

Lots of employer's want to see actual work experience even if it's part time,it show commitment and dedication plus it shows that you are not scared of taking orders to do your job.

Imagine being an employer with 50cvs all with amazing qualifications the one that is probably going to stand out is the one's with work experience.

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By *ayHaychMan
over a year ago

Leeds (Home) / Sheffield (Work)

A strong CV is great and advice/help for that can be found online easily. If it’s a specific sector of work then finding advice tailored to that area is best.

On the other hand so many places ask you for your CV and then ask you to fill out long application forms on top of that.

I’m lucky to be qualified in an area which has way more jobs than people qualified so it’s been a while since I’ve had the mass rejections.

I think job hopping to pick up different skills is key for young people but not too soon between jobs otherwise future employers will assume you won’t be sticking around long.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"A strong CV is great and advice/help for that can be found online easily. If it’s a specific sector of work then finding advice tailored to that area is best.

On the other hand so many places ask you for your CV and then ask you to fill out long application forms on top of that.

I’m lucky to be qualified in an area which has way more jobs than people qualified so it’s been a while since I’ve had the mass rejections.

I think job hopping to pick up different skills is key for young people but not too soon between jobs otherwise future employers will assume you won’t be sticking around long. "

Job hopping is a nice idea but that implies finding multiple jobs to choose from. Would be great to find one to start with.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I think for anyone trying to stand out is difficult as it's tricky to get your personality across on a CV.

Lots of employer's want to see actual work experience even if it's part time,it show commitment and dedication plus it shows that you are not scared of taking orders to do your job.

Imagine being an employer with 50cvs all with amazing qualifications the one that is probably going to stand out is the one's with work experience."

Agreed. Much like getting your first veri on here... Its seeming incredibly challenging to get going. Ive been amazed how difficult it has been, just does not tally with the rhetoric in the media, which is.. Loads of open jobs wah wah wah but we cant find anyone to fill them wah wah wah so we must put our prices up to pay our missing staff...

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By *outhCoastSinnersCouple
over a year ago

so close you could touch


"If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works? "

It's so blooming difficult to get a job for young ones nowadays. My son could only find rubbish delivery jobs after he finished college. Thankfully he's gone into something else now. But for teens and early twenties who want a real wage to enjoy life and get a phone or car or whatever...it's a tough place to be. It depends where you are too, luckily we are in a big city so isn't as bad as some smaller towns and financially deprived towns. I don't remember it being this bad when I was in my late teens. Good luck to your kids, hope the find something. Interviewing is all CV depending; quals are ok, experience is better and tailor the cv to each job description to help with successful sifting.

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By *outhCoastSinnersCouple
over a year ago

so close you could touch

Have they thought about trying temping agencies like Reed or some others local to you? It might at least get them something regular and also experience they may need.

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By *ansoffateMan
over a year ago

Sagittarius A

My daughter is finding it difficult; it is causing her some distress and affecting her confidence. It is quite saddening to be honest.

She's not being picky in the slightest and applying for a broad array of jobs.

I would say it's far harder for young people now than it was for myself. I was offered apprenticeships, real ones where you get paid properly. When I left uni I had a choice of graduate positions specific to my degree, or the option to do a paid PhD. I had no course fees to pay and got a grant towards living costs.

The vast majority of young people are working in fields they have not trained in, despite accruing large debts to do so, on low salaries with limited prospects; with low job security.

The minimum wage is ageist and based on some misguided principle that all young people live at home with supportive parents.

The move toward a 'flexible job market.' Affects young people disproportionately as employers are more focused on people whom already have skills than investing in training their own staff - what's the point if they are only there temporarily?

I honestly think a lot of people have their heads in the sand about how shitty the deal for young people is in this country, compared to 25 years ago.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"If youve got kids looking for a job or have been looking yourself, how easy / hard was it and how did you find your last job... I thought post brexit there were shortages of labour but my kids applied for over 100 jobs and got one interview. What works? "

No shortage of jobs not where I live anyway.. my advice when it comes to kids is don't just straight into full time work at an average job learn a trade

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By *ooking4othersMan
over a year ago

Here ...

They should do some voluntary work.

Demonstrates that they are keen to work, can maintain working hours and they will also get a reference from the charity.

All of this gives the employer some basics that they wouldn't have for someone with no previous work experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's extremely difficult for lots of People to find employment still.. Companies realised during Lockdown they could do the same work with less staff..

As to my Current Role, I got in because 2 People took a chance on me and it paid off

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"They should do some voluntary work.

Demonstrates that they are keen to work, can maintain working hours and they will also get a reference from the charity.

All of this gives the employer some basics that they wouldn't have for someone with no previous work experience. "

Yep doing that.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I genuinely wasnt intending for this to be about my offspring, more about how hard it is out there for youngsters in general, trying to get the most simple or mundane role now. In this particular case both have 3 A* A levels... Not scared of working hard, bla bla bla... Their friends share the same experiences. The only ones currently in employ are those whose parents have connections.... And as someone said.... Certainly wasnt this hard 25 years ago.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I genuinely wasnt intending for this to be about my offspring, more about how hard it is out there for youngsters in general, trying to get the most simple or mundane role now. In this particular case both have 3 A* A levels... Not scared of working hard, bla bla bla... Their friends share the same experiences. The only ones currently in employ are those whose parents have connections.... And as someone said.... Certainly wasnt this hard 25 years ago. "

Oh and appreciate the comments thank you

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton


"Yes but like alot of youngsters they want easy job's and big money.

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No they would just like a secure job with a salary they can live on. But the days of being able to buy a house support 2 kids and have the wife stay at home on a factory wage are long gone

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By *hawn ScottMan
over a year ago

london Brixton


"I genuinely wasnt intending for this to be about my offspring, more about how hard it is out there for youngsters in general, trying to get the most simple or mundane role now. In this particular case both have 3 A* A levels... Not scared of working hard, bla bla bla... Their friends share the same experiences. The only ones currently in employ are those whose parents have connections.... And as someone said.... Certainly wasnt this hard 25 years ago.

Oh and appreciate the comments thank you"

I feel sorry for the kids today. I have no qualifications but had a flair for computers. Went for an interview for a global it company and got the job. Worked my way from unpacking pcs to a 3rd line specialist. These days the same company won't give you an interview unless you have a degree or Microsoft certification

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral


"Have they thought about trying temping agencies like Reed or some others local to you? It might at least get them something regular and also experience they may need."

Agencies were great for me when I was starting out - they gave me loads of help with my CV as well as advice on where I should be pitching myself, and doing the rounds of agency interviews also gave me great interview practice.

The jobs that came through them were initially very basic jobs, but it was a foot in the door to get real work experience that I could then use to get better roles on higher pay.

In my field the entry-level jobs have largely been automated, so I get its much tougher now to get a start than it was for me.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

There are plenty of jobs out there. There really are.

We then run in to the problem of some people will avoid certain jobs, either being too proud or feeling its beneath them.

However once people go for those jobs, the employer is not really looking for inexperienced or young. Or they view overqualified people as moving on as soon as a better option comes along

(not all employers).

It is a bit of a stale mate on most fronts. But there are plenty of jobs out there, maybe not quite enough for zero unemployment but still lots more than people think.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I would suggest going through agencies. It's in their interests to get people jobs.

I also recommend looking at Civil Service jobs. Often they can't pay as much as the private sector so they are prepared to make compromises on experience levels of new starters and then train them. It's a good way to get training and experience on the CV and can be used as a stepping stone. They are also often pleasant places to work because they try to out arseholes and make a point of looking after their staff.

Small businesses also often have lower budgets and will take people with less experience.

Another thing to do when there's a lack of OTJ experience is get qualifications. The IT world has a shit load of them. These can look very good on a CV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CV makes the biggest difference. I can tell within 30 seconds if someone's behind interviewed. I hired someone less than 4 months ago and was one of 100+ CVs.

The amount that aren't tailored to the job is mental.

Loads of free websites with CV templates. Use ChatGpt and feed it the job description and details then ask if to write a CV for you

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By *elkieWoman
over a year ago

Durham


"I think for anyone trying to stand out is difficult as it's tricky to get your personality across on a CV.

Lots of employer's want to see actual work experience even if it's part time,it show commitment and dedication plus it shows that you are not scared of taking orders to do your job.

Imagine being an employer with 50cvs all with amazing qualifications the one that is probably going to stand out is the one's with work experience."

Catch 22 situation, cos kids can’t get work experience without work experience and a lot of places won’t take volunteers under 16. The reason teenagers are looking at influencing and twitch streaming and games dev as a way of making money is because they don’t have to be dependent on anyone else to get started, and they understand how hard it is to get that first job if your parents don’t know someone who will take a chance on you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My 17 yo has been looking for work since 16 years. The paltry cafe jobs that will employ 16yos go to the kids of the well connected probably own the cafe parents. Pretty much everywhere else will reject you until you are 18 or have experience. But nobody will give them the experience until 18 . She has applied for hundreds too, always a tailored well written cv and cover letter and nothing. She did start out only wanting a nice job somewhere fancy, but after all this time if a job came up down the coalmines she would take it now just for some money. We arent a touristy town, that would have seasonal jobs and its a pretty shit town in the middle of nowhere so there arent all that many oppurunities unless you can afford to travel or drive. It would probably be pub/bar work when the required age is met as a starter job.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"My 17 yo has been looking for work since 16 years. The paltry cafe jobs that will employ 16yos go to the kids of the well connected probably own the cafe parents. Pretty much everywhere else will reject you until you are 18 or have experience. But nobody will give them the experience until 18 . She has applied for hundreds too, always a tailored well written cv and cover letter and nothing. She did start out only wanting a nice job somewhere fancy, but after all this time if a job came up down the coalmines she would take it now just for some money. We arent a touristy town, that would have seasonal jobs and its a pretty shit town in the middle of nowhere so there arent all that many oppurunities unless you can afford to travel or drive. It would probably be pub/bar work when the required age is met as a starter job. "

Similar experiences.. Shes doing well keeping going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I left my job in April, I only started a new one in August, I applied for anything I was skilled in and those that I thought I could do with training, I must applied for over 200 jobs and got about 50 replies and about 5 interviews, currently at a job I absolutely love and I'm happy with that.

Danish x

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
over a year ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

It's a minefield, especially for kids starting out. Good luck to your kids.

I just told my eldest to keep applying, take whatever because at least you are in the working world. He started out in Hospitality, ended up running a pub, hotel party planner before working in a computer shop.

He worked up to Supervisor in McDonalds, people can be derogatory about working there but they were supportive and look after staff.

Now he's admin and site manager to a Windows and Doors company, he loves it, not had a background in construction, but he is a great organiser and organises the jobs, their teams, sorts any problems and liases with other organisations.

My youngest walked out of Uni into his first job as a Game Developer, there for 3 years and now lives in London still working as a Game Developer

I told my eldest it takes time to figure out what it is you want and who cares what job you do while you figure that out. It will happen

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By *ealMissShadyWoman
over a year ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

As for my industry, it's in crisis with staffing across the board so I could walk out of my job and into another pretty much straight away. Trouble is I don't have any other qualifications or experience of anything else as a back up so I will be chasing toddlers when I'm decrepit probably

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