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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin

As someone who lived in the area through 3 of these, i wonder what peoples opinions are on whether it should be allowed continue, have changes made to it etc.

I used to dread it, it made a mess of the area and people's properties and genuinely made the area unsafe.

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By *angerouslemaisonsMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

It should not be allowed to be used as a pawn in the ongoing culture war that’s what I think

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"It should not be allowed to be used as a pawn in the ongoing culture war that’s what I think "

Im not interested in all that. All i care about is the violence and shitty behaviour that goes on during it

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

I think it's shocking all the violence that goes on mainly during the Monday, I watch the news coverage and looks so good on the Sunday/family day but then watch the Monday evening coverage and wow I wouldn't want to be there...way too much violence...the people that indulge in this are totally spoiling what the Carnival was first meant to be all about, and that's a shame.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Make an area within the "carnival" for people to knife each other,away from children and those who haven't gone there to cause trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic "

but less stabbings

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic "

True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.

As an fyi, i dont know about Glastonbury, but stabbings at the football rarely if ever happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far

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By *ullyMan
over a year ago

Near Clacton

AS usual and as ften as not it's the minority of A holes that spoil thing for the rest!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the scheme the Borough does offering local isolated people the opportunity to go on holiday for the weekend.

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far"

Not sure what youre confused about. I explained in the initial post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far"

For me, and from professional experience its ALL abiutvthe violence. Stabbings, other weapon offences and robberies. Sometimes things are said exactly as they are meant without there being a hidden agenda.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic

True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.

"

Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far

For me, and from professional experience its ALL abiutvthe violence. Stabbings, other weapon offences and robberies. Sometimes things are said exactly as they are meant without there being a hidden agenda. "

The OP when I read it suggested it was about the way it affects the local area in terms of mess and other disruption. Did mention being unsafe but not specifically anything so I just wanted clarity as the comments below were specifically more about things not specifically mentioned and not about things specifically mentioned. Don’t think there was a hidden agenda. Just want to be clear.

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic

True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.

Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.

"

I know that. But football doesnt involve hundreds of thousands of people congregating in a residential area for 2 days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic

True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.

Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.

"

Spurs is on Tottenham high road and match days can be disruptive to travel and can make people feel unsafe

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By *angerouslemaisonsMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"It should not be allowed to be used as a pawn in the ongoing culture war that’s what I think

Im not interested in all that. All i care about is the violence and shitty behaviour that goes on during it"

It happens at all large gatherings. The knife crime element is because it’s in London which is the hub of knife crime and a whole separate issue

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By *obilebottomMan
over a year ago

All over

I have not followed any news about it for very long time but I went a few times years back and I always had a great time. Great street food, dancing and strutting your stuff, colourful parades and people having fun. It must have all changed.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Probably cut down on the public rimmings yes rimming and waving round zombie knives.

If they can cut that element out it’s all good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.

Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.

People in very large groups are problematic

True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.

Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.

Spurs is on Tottenham high road and match days can be disruptive to travel and can make people feel unsafe"

Getting to Millwall's old ground was a nightmare. Not so much a football ground, more a trap. An Everton fan got his face slashed open at Surrey Quays a few years ago in a residential road, my mate watched it out of his kitchen window

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife. "

Chip. On. Shoulder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Chip. On. Shoulder. "

Change the record

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By *angerouslemaisonsMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife. "

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all "

Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?

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By *angerouslemaisonsMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all

Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone? "

Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it.

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all

Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?

Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it. "

So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned?

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By *angerouslemaisonsMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all

Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?

Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it.

So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned? "

The problem isn’t with carnival. There’s equal or greater problems at all large events. There’s a wider Societal problem.

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By *ananaman41 OP   Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.

Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all

Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?

Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it.

So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned?

The problem isn’t with carnival. There’s equal or greater problems at all large events. There’s a wider Societal problem. "

So no change to it then?

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

I wouldn't like to live on the route but I do like the music and costumes.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
14 weeks ago

South West London

Who's going to the Carnival this coming weekend?

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By *imples24Man
14 weeks ago

tamworth

Was hoping to go but not sure after reading all that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
14 weeks ago

Funny how of all my friends that annually take part/attend carnival always seem to have a great time. Yes it gets bigger every year but i think it should remain in Notting Hill as that's where its originated. There used to be an unofficial estate party where I live. I would always get broken up by the police and there would be stories in the media about "gangs with machetes" running around when the real story was someone had a baseball bat.

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By *hawn ScottMan
14 weeks ago

london Brixton

Went once but wasn't really my thing.

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By *ansoffateMan
14 weeks ago

Sagittarius A

I've been a few times, when my children were younger. We enjoyed it thoroughly.

I've heard some remarks in recent times about various issues, which I have no experience of. I think it would be quite sad for it not to continue personally.

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By *hawn ScottMan
14 weeks ago

london Brixton

If you are going to go then go early on the Sunday.

Late afternoon on the Monday and I find the mood changes!

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
14 weeks ago

South West London

Is anyone joining any Mas Bands for Carnival?

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By *illiam101000Man
14 weeks ago

Melton Mowbray

Used to go in my youth. Was always the same, great fun but later at night was a little more sinister . Especially Monday down near the flyover if it's still there.

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By *ty31Man
14 weeks ago

NW London


"Who's going to the Carnival this coming weekend?"

, hoping to pop down for a bit on the Monday. Likely around the Pineapple Tribe system 🍍

Atmosphere is usually great during the day, although the middle of the carnival can get a bit crowded

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By *ools and the brainCouple
14 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I got taxed by 3 very large scary dudes many moons ago, left it a few years went again my mate got beat up.

3rd time got a black eye from a crowd surge following from some guy's steaming or something.

No thanks.

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By *elvet RopeMan
14 weeks ago

by the big field

Went years ago with a couple of female friends- we left early as they were both constantly groped while trying to get through the crowd and that was in the middle of the day

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