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By *azzaahh OP   Woman
over a year ago

north wales / chester

im on the list and id like to think god forbid if anything happened to my children I would be happy for there organs to be used but in reality i dont know if I could ..

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

My Hammond & Wurlitzer are free to good homes after my sad demise.

Don't think many of my body parts would improve anyone's health but they are welcome to them

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

Its something I'd do, I dont really see much point in my organs or even my sons organs, rotting away in a wooden box, or being chargrilled into ashes.

Would rather help someone or them go to scientific research.

Not everyone has the same _iew as myself, for lots of different reasons, but personally I'd be happy to donate and respect those that dont want to.

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By *azzaahh OP   Woman
over a year ago

north wales / chester


"Its something I'd do, I dont really see much point in my organs or even my sons organs, rotting away in a wooden box, or being chargrilled into ashes.

Would rather help someone or them go to scientific research.

Not everyone has the same _iew as myself, for lots of different reasons, but personally I'd be happy to donate and respect those that dont want to."

the thing that id thnk id struggle with is tha altoughthey would be pronunced brain dead its actually letting go of that hope that pthey may recover x

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull

once the brain is gone...it is game over unfrotunately..whilst death is a dreadful thing for anyone to deal with, the thought that I may have helped someone else live is what inspires me....I am a registered donor and have made my wishes known to everyone who may be called upon at the time...

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

My daughter has made it very clear to me that if anything happens to her, I am to donate as much from her as they'll take. Maybe talk it over with your kids (if they are old enough) and that might help strengthen your decision.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't there talk of an OPT OUT system coming in.

If you haven't said no, then they can have whatever they need.

Seems a much better system than we have at present, and helps those that haven't thought about it to decide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to have a donor card years ago. You have just reminded me what a good cause it is. I doubt any of my organs would be healthy enough to be used but god forbid anything should ever happen to my child, I think I would donate. I'm going to sign up, can you do it online now?

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By *azzaahh OP   Woman
over a year ago

north wales / chester


"My daughter has made it very clear to me that if anything happens to her, I am to donate as much from her as they'll take. Maybe talk it over with your kids (if they are old enough) and that might help strengthen your decision."

yes i have done except with my 6 year old and son with spcial needs which would be in appropriate

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Its something I'd do, I dont really see much point in my organs or even my sons organs, rotting away in a wooden box, or being chargrilled into ashes.

Would rather help someone or them go to scientific research.

............."

It's good to tell the Anatomy people at your local University (with a School Of Medicine).

They don't always have a need for or space to store cadavers and they can advise you of what might happen if that's the case.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me.. "

If that's the case, I'm keeping my arsehole as well

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

a close family member dropped dead very unexpectedly and relatively young. He was transferred to hospital and kept on a life support machine for a few days. At the time we were oblivious to the reason why and thought he may come round. However over the next few days it transpired that due to his relative youth and health alot of hospitals had requested 'various parts' should we give the 'nod'. About 3 days later at a very late point in the evening the question was put to us about 30 doctors descended onto our 'family private room' .. the reason for this is a

doctor cannot request organs till hes witnessed a qualified doctor doing this a number of times .. we did give the go ahead for certain parts to be used and were then advised that we would need to wait a further 2 hours for the organ donation people to counsell us first .. 2 hours later a woman arrived from a town miles away and started to give us graphic detail of the procedure he was about to undergo and asked if one of us would volunteer to 'watch the operation'. Clearly we declined she then went on to say she would do this on our behalf. She then had hours of wait whilst each surgeon who would use the organ was flown in as he has to take it out of the body .. The whole process was a nightmare and very few people realise this is what it involves but, the trauma of it aside, a few did go onto live as a result so it was worth it in the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me.. "

I think the exact same thing... Spooky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im on the list and although hard would let my childrens go.

My niece needed a liver very young and i think god forbid if one of my children went and they could help another child live,then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I donate blood and my name is on the bone marrow register, I would happily give my organs if anything happened to me!

When I was 17 I was diagnosed with an eye condition and without cornea transplants I would probably be blind!

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull


"a close family member dropped dead very unexpectedly and relatively young. He was transferred to hospital and kept on a life support machine for a few days. At the time we were oblivious to the reason why and thought he may come round. However over the next few days it transpired that due to his relative youth and health alot of hospitals had requested 'various parts' should we give the 'nod'. About 3 days later at a very late point in the evening the question was put to us about 30 doctors descended onto our 'family private room' .. the reason for this is a

doctor cannot request organs till hes witnessed a qualified doctor doing this a number of times .. we did give the go ahead for certain parts to be used and were then advised that we would need to wait a further 2 hours for the organ donation people to counsell us first .. 2 hours later a woman arrived from a town miles away and started to give us graphic detail of the procedure he was about to undergo and asked if one of us would volunteer to 'watch the operation'. Clearly we declined she then went on to say she would do this on our behalf. She then had hours of wait whilst each surgeon who would use the organ was flown in as he has to take it out of the body .. The whole process was a nightmare and very few people realise this is what it involves but, the trauma of it aside, a few did go onto live as a result so it was worth it in the end "

That sounds horrific...but if others have lived and had a quality of life......seems they could surely make it less painful for the family...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have an advanced directive. I dont think if you have one of those you can donate anything because they cant put you on life support to take the organs.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"

That sounds horrific...but if others have lived and had a quality of life......seems they could surely make it less painful for the family..."

they cant unfortunately and we did address the organ donor lady about this trauma at the time. Her explanation for requesting a family member to witness the operation is to ensure us that it is done in a dignified and respectful manner. The surgeons stitch up the body with the same degree of respect that they would afford a living person. It is meant to give us peace of mind. Their other concern is that pressure was put onto someone in deep trauma who agrees to donation whilst not clearly thinking .. i do see their point but geez .. was it a shocker at your lowest point in your life but hey ho .. we got a very nice letter off one guy who works for F1 and Williams dedicated a race to our deceased which was very nice touch !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have an advanced directive. I dont think if you have one of those you can donate anything because they cant put you on life support to take the organs."

Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean?

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

My mother in laws husband died from a sudden heart attack and two people got sight because of it.

They can have any part of me because my soul would have already gone.

I would like to think if my children needed a body part and I could not donate mine that someone would give them the gift if life.

I think its wrong to be willing to accept but not to give.

My childrens father is in agreement about donating our childrens parts too if they die.

Fruit x

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"My mother in laws husband died from a sudden heart attack and two people got sight because of it.

They can have any part of me because my soul would have already gone.

I would like to think if my children needed a body part and I could not donate mine that someone would give them the gift if life.

I think its wrong to be willing to accept but not to give.

My childrens father is in agreement about donating our childrens parts too if they die.

Fruit x"

i am in complete agreement with you .. what I dont think is correct though is that we were left under the illusion that our loved one was on a life support machine thinking he may wake up again .. he wasnt .. he was already dead .. they made us watch this and proved it to us by shooting water into his ears from a water pistol .. there was not a flicker . but for 3 days we thought this was the case .. they were keeping him alive to get all the doctors and hospitals who were going to receive his body parts .. should we give the nod .. in place.

why not just tell us the truth from the start and we stil would have agreed but not kept 24 hour vigils at the bedside

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have an advanced directive. I dont think if you have one of those you can donate anything because they cant put you on life support to take the organs.

Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean?"

Oh it just means a I have a "do not resuscitate order" so that if I have a cardiac arrest or need fluids etc they will withold them, Ive asked them to do that so that they dont keep me alive, I just die naturally, and am not put on a life support machine.

I think you have to be saved on a machine to have your organs harvested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me.. "

My card says everything other than my eyes too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take it all, I won't need it where im going! Yep I'm a donor.....some organs not used for ages so be like new

Seriously, if you think you could save a life by donating something you don't need anymore, wouldn't that give your warm glow.....well a very warm one wher I'm off to!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine says anything still worth using

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I have an advanced directive. I dont think if you have one of those you can donate anything because they cant put you on life support to take the organs.

Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean?

Oh it just means a I have a "do not resuscitate order" so that if I have a cardiac arrest or need fluids etc they will withold them, Ive asked them to do that so that they dont keep me alive, I just die naturally, and am not put on a life support machine.

I think you have to be saved on a machine to have your organs harvested."

quite right you do .. it can take days for all the recipients to be in place and the surgeons and when your technically dead they also have to artificially raise blood sugar and other levels to represent a living person which is apparantly a task in itself so it cant be done overnight but I take my hat off to the doctors who do have the ability to do it and long may it continue !

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me..

My card says everything other than my eyes too. "

I understand that others have and people have got sight due to eye donation.. However it is my belief to want to keep my eyes as regardless if your soul has left I still believe your eyes are the window to your soul...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i was always unsure until i had kids of my own - i would without doubt want an organ donated if my kids lives depended on it and therefore i cannot expect to take without giving so slapped my name on the register

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can have what they like from me

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By *howman_ukMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me.. "

And what lovely eyes they are, does that mean you have an even more beautiful soul?xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have an advanced directive. I dont think if you have one of those you can donate anything because they cant put you on life support to take the organs.

Excuse my ignorance but what does that mean?

Oh it just means a I have a "do not resuscitate order" so that if I have a cardiac arrest or need fluids etc they will withold them, Ive asked them to do that so that they dont keep me alive, I just die naturally, and am not put on a life support machine.

I think you have to be saved on a machine to have your organs harvested.

quite right you do .. it can take days for all the recipients to be in place and the surgeons and when your technically dead they also have to artificially raise blood sugar and other levels to represent a living person which is apparantly a task in itself so it cant be done overnight but I take my hat off to the doctors who do have the ability to do it and long may it continue ! "

I dont disagree with organ donation. If they could do it from my dead body that would be ok. But, if I die I dont want to be brought back as a vegetable on a machine for weeks in ITU and sadly a sideline of that is that I cant donate "/.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me..

And what lovely eyes they are, does that mean you have an even more beautiful soul?xx"

I like to think I am a good person with a good soul...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im on the list and id like to think god forbid if anything happened to my children I would be happy for there organs to be used but in reality i dont know if I could .."

I did

A lot of people who know me on here will already know as will a few others as this subject has been talked about before on here so for those who do i apologise for repeating myself

I lost my son at 20 months old and i dontaed his organs, organs for children under 5 are in the highest demande for this very reason, and 90% of children under 5 on the donor list will die due to a shortage, people dont want their baby being cut up after they die, its a very hard thing to do but i have no regrets over my choice

When i lost my son i felt like my whole world has fallen apert and if it wasnt for the fact i had another child i really do think i wouldnt have got thro it, it was only the fact i had my daughter to look after that kept me going, and if i could save just one other parent going thro what i did it was worth it

When he died i questioned what the point was, what was the point in me having him if he was going to be taken away from me so quickly, giving another child a second chance someone made me feel there was a point, that in some way a bit of him lived on

Its a very personal thing and i know there are some people who would never consider this if their child passed away but for me it made sence

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

absolutely correct and well done you for donating .. the point im trying to make tonight is that when we donated we were told that only 2 a 'year' .. oh yes ... not a typo .. come out of that hospital a year .. that is why we were subjected to the circus of doctors etc .. its really too much but im pleased we went down the road we went down

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"...........

I lost my son at 20 months old and i dontaed his organs, organs for children under 5 are in the highest demande for this very reason, and 90% of children under 5 on the donor list will die due to a shortage, people dont want their baby being cut up after they die, its a very hard thing to do but i have no regrets over my choice

..............."

That's the essence of altruistic donation and you have my belated thanks and condolences.

It's comparitively easy for old duffers like me who've lived hard enough for two lifetimes and whose earthly remains would simply be a bit of a bother for those left behind to sign up for donation or the anatomists.

To donate the organs of a precious child to unknown recipients at a time of such sadness is generosity of the highest order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum benefitted from a donor kidney about 3 years ago.

She asked not to be told who it was from as she said she would struggle to accept it if she knew it had come from a young person.

She actually felt selfish in taking it as she thought that someone with a longer life ahead of them would benefit more.

Unfortunately the matching of an organ to an individual is not that simple and if it's right for you, it's right for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im on the list and id like to think god forbid if anything happened to my children I would be happy for there organs to be used but in reality i dont know if I could ..

I did

A lot of people who know me on here will already know as will a few others as this subject has been talked about before on here so for those who do i apologise for repeating myself

I lost my son at 20 months old and i dontaed his organs, organs for children under 5 are in the highest demande for this very reason, and 90% of children under 5 on the donor list will die due to a shortage, people dont want their baby being cut up after they die, its a very hard thing to do but i have no regrets over my choice

When i lost my son i felt like my whole world has fallen apert and if it wasnt for the fact i had another child i really do think i wouldnt have got thro it, it was only the fact i had my daughter to look after that kept me going, and if i could save just one other parent going thro what i did it was worth it

When he died i questioned what the point was, what was the point in me having him if he was going to be taken away from me so quickly, giving another child a second chance someone made me feel there was a point, that in some way a bit of him lived on

Its a very personal thing and i know there are some people who would never consider this if their child passed away but for me it made sence"

Amazing choice you made x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum benefitted from a donor kidney about 3 years ago.

She asked not to be told who it was from as she said she would struggle to accept it if she knew it had come from a young person.

She actually felt selfish in taking it as she thought that someone with a longer life ahead of them would benefit more.

Unfortunately the matching of an organ to an individual is not that simple and if it's right for you, it's right for you."

The one thing i struggeled with was people trying to make contact with me

I suppose if someone gave your child a second chance of life you would want to meet them and say thank you, i know i would, but i just couldnt, not because i didnt care how the children was doing but because i was scared, because the operations have to be done very soon after the death, his death was still very raw to me and i wasnt in the best place and i had no idea how i would react if i saw a child knowing that a part of my son was in there, i was afraid i would try to take claim to that and somehow feel the child was partly mine

I know that sounds stupid now but i wasnt seeing things then as i do now so i felt for my own sanity it was best to stay away

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am not on a register, I really should.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I am not on a register, I really should.

"

I went on it when I got my advantage card with boots....

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"I am not on a register, I really should.

I went on it when I got my advantage card with boots.... "

I need to look into it tomorrow.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I am not on a register, I really should.

I went on it when I got my advantage card with boots.... "

Which particular register is that ?

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I am not on a register, I really should.

I went on it when I got my advantage card with boots.... "

you went on what sorry ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im on the donor register, have anything but my heart, that will always belong to dave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been an organ donor for 37 years, first as a card carrier and then on the national register when that first cane into effect. It seems only fair that if I was prepared to receive something from someone to prolong my life that I would be prepared to do the same for anyone else once I'm gone.

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By *azzaahh OP   Woman
over a year ago

north wales / chester

There's big programme on tv Thursday night I think it is trying to get more people to Sign up to organ donation..fingers crossed it hits home and lots more sign up x

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Opt out should be the way forward but I doubt if any government would have thye bollocks for it.

There is also cost to consider, I used to work in that area and it used to go very quiet at the end of the financial year as all the hospitals had spunked their budget, probably on £100 lightbulbs and stuff like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

same here. take away your eyes and they take away your soul, anyway need my eyes to see in th next world, but can gladly take anything else,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out."

Count me on that list to , its the not knowing that bothers me ......

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I am not on a register, I really should.

I went on it when I got my advantage card with boots....

Which particular register is that ? "

When I got my advantage card and i filled out a form there was a section where you can say you want to go on the organ donation register i ticked yes to everything apart from my eyes

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By *in4sumMan
over a year ago

sheffield

I carry a donor card, all my family and friends know my wishes. They have my permittion to use any part of me to help another live once i have gone.

Lol there is no basis in recent rumours of soylent green being found in the food chain hehe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm on the donor register and have carried a donor card since my late teens. I'm not sure if they could use anything except my corneas now but they are welcome to any part of me, better that than rotting in a box.

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By *ricky_DickyMan
over a year ago

Mirfield


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out."

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?"

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now"."

How would you know who they went to?

I don't carry a donor card but saying that I don't anyone would want anything of mine.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now".

How would you know who they went to?

I don't carry a donor card but saying that I don't anyone would want anything of mine."

It's hard to believe the fear of the very remote possibility of an organ going to someone the donor would deem unsuitable would outweigh the value of altruistic donation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Count me on that list to , its the not knowing that bothers me ...... "

just out of interest what does it matter who has them? what group of people wouldnt you be willing to help?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now"."

could also be a 18 year old that needs a heart thro no fault of their own that you have deprived because your scared it may go to a d*unk driver

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sorry got to add to that again but i find the term d*unk diver very open

im not by any stroke of the imagination saying i agree with drinking and driving let me make that clear but this d*unk driver could be your 20 year old daughter thats been out with her boyfriend and they have had a argument thats got a little heated so she has stupidly got in the car and gone home to get away from him, had a crash on the way and ended up in hospital, would you tell the Dr not to save her because of one stupid mistake?

Lets assum noone else was killed in this crash befor anyone starts giving me the low down on drinking and driving lol the example was for the thread purpose only

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum drummed it into us since we were little her body was being donated to medical science when time came it was very hard to do it but her wishes more important. Was strange not having funeral as such but worth it.

I am of firm belief it should be a case of the norm being organs automatically donated and accept this with option to opt out rather than current position of opting in.

I accept folk will see it different but in reality if a loved ones life depended on a kind person donating organs they would not accept it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My way of _iewing this subject is if you would take an organ you should carry a card

I am also in favour of a opition out systen instead of opting in

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"My mum drummed it into us since we were little her body was being donated to medical science when time came it was very hard to do it but her wishes more important. Was strange not having funeral as such but worth it.

..........."

There's no excuse not to have a wake, though.

Glasgow Uni Anatomy Dept organise a non-religious service (sorry about that word) of thanksgiving every few years to remember those who donated organs or cadavers to help others or advance medical education.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talk of Wales introducing the opt out very soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now".

How would you know who they went to?

I don't carry a donor card but saying that I don't anyone would want anything of mine.

It's hard to believe the fear of the very remote possibility of an organ going to someone the donor would deem unsuitable would outweigh the value of altruistic donation."

With respect, I have never hurt any one in my life, when my son died the hospital asked if they could keep his heart which had been operated on three times, Hospital researchers would use it to improve treatments and medication to save lives, we had an informed choice which we were glad to allow.

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"............

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from."

Whilst I cannot comprehend your attitude, might it not be better to prolong the life of the driver in order that he might reflect at length on his/ her folly?

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By *howman_ukMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"I respect those that will donate organs.

But I feel that because I will have no say as to "who" will have my parts I'de opt out.

Heaven forbid you are ever in the situation of requiring a transplant but if you where would you be too concerned over where it came from?

No, I would be concerned if my organs were used to save the life of a d*unk driver, or some one in prison drug dealers crack addict, "get my point now".

How would you know who they went to?

I don't carry a donor card but saying that I don't anyone would want anything of mine.

It's hard to believe the fear of the very remote possibility of an organ going to someone the donor would deem unsuitable would outweigh the value of altruistic donation.

With respect, I have never hurt any one in my life, when my son died the hospital asked if they could keep his heart which had been operated on three times, Hospital researchers would use it to improve treatments and medication to save lives, we had an informed choice which we were glad to allow.

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from."

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

opt out is definitely the way to go. i remember debating about this years ago. the problem with the current system is that too few people have a strong enough opinion on the issue to actually register. Opt out lets us use the organs of these people, and if they decide they are against it they can still opt out.

A bigger issue perhaps though, is the ability of a family to veto the decision to donate. Even if the person dying wanted their organs donated, the family in many countries can overrule this. Sadly, doctors have to approach family members, who have just lost a loved one, and ask them for permission. A lot of families, at this difficult time, deny permission. This can mean that even in countries with an opt out system, with most the population as registered donors, the number of effective donors could be similar to countries with an opt in system.

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By *howman_ukMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"sorry got to add to that again but i find the term d*unk diver very open

im not by any stroke of the imagination saying i agree with drinking and driving let me make that clear but this d*unk driver could be your 20 year old daughter thats been out with her boyfriend and they have had a argument thats got a little heated so she has stupidly got in the car and gone home to get away from him, had a crash on the way and ended up in hospital, would you tell the Dr not to save her because of one stupid mistake?

Lets assum noone else was killed in this crash befor anyone starts giving me the low down on drinking and driving lol the example was for the thread purpose only"

Everyone has a choice.......

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"..........

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?"

So you will punish the many worthy for the remote possibility of spiting the non worthy.

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By *howman_ukMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"..........

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?

So you will punish the many worthy for the remote possibility of spiting the non worthy."

WTF was that all about? LoL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"..........

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?

So you will punish the many worthy for the remote possibility of spiting the non worthy."

to be fair, after reading the guys posts, untill you have been thro what he has you couldnt possabily know how you would feel in his situation

When i donated my sons organs i didnt have this to worry about this as his organs could only go to children under 5, had he be been a adult and killed by someone would i feel the same knowing he could be saving his killer or someone on a equal status? i dont know, sitting here im thinking yes i would but if i was really given that choice to make whos to say i would still feel the same

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"..........

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?

So you will punish the many worthy for the remote possibility of spiting the non worthy.

WTF was that all about? LoL"

The likelihood of a donated organ going to a serial killer, a rapist, a child molester or a d*unk driver is slim.

Donated organs are in VERY short supply.

Does it make sense to decline to donate JUST IN CASE it goes somewhere a donor wouldn't approve of?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"..........

The driver that hit him din't give him that choice which is where my fear comes from.

So you will punish the many worthy to spite the few non worthy?

So you will punish the many worthy for the remote possibility of spiting the non worthy.

WTF was that all about? LoL

The likelihood of a donated organ going to a serial killer, a rapist, a child molester or a d*unk driver is slim.

Donated organs are in VERY short supply.

Does it make sense to decline to donate JUST IN CASE it goes somewhere a donor wouldn't approve of?"

Maybe I am paranoid, It's some thing you cant judge untill it's happend to you, with your loved one laying infront of you life less and you feel your life has just been ripped out of you, it's not an easy choice when your upset and angry. In my case I was informed what his heart would be used for, that was all i needed. I believe every one should have that informed choice, which should be respected wether you agree or not.

It's not punishing anyone, that implies your harming some one for some thing they have done to you. It's about dealing with your own greif.

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By *mma peelWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Donation is a massive decision to make and who knows what choice your family make after your death ...?

Having the conversation with your family is the best way ahead.

You can choose to opt out of certain organs or tissues on the Organ Donor Register too....! So if you don't want to donate corneas or heart then just say so ! The staff will always check the register and won't ever go against your wishes.

Google organ donor register or call them, it takes 2 minutes.

Don't forget most people can donate many life enhancing tissues anything up to 48 hours after death.

Why not help others after your death?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The number of people donating organs after death has risen 50% since 2008.

More than 1,200 people in the UK donated their organs in the last year, leading to about 3,100 transplants.

The increase has been largely credited to the network of specialist nurses who approach and support bereaved relatives in hospitals.

But with the numbers on the organ donation register remaining unchanged, the NHS Blood and Transplant service is still asking people to sign up."

More at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22086086

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Happy to give blood but would not consider organ donation. My kids feel the same.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

When I am dead they can use any part of me. My family all know that too and have the same opinion for them.

My ex and I have agreed that if one of our children died they can use their organs too.

Hard decisiin but its what we want x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've a donor card and thy can have what they want sadly I'm not allowed to give blood as I've heart problems and they keep turning me down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I asked if they could donate my husbands organs when we were told he won't wake from coma, but because of all the treatment he had and other things they wouldn't allow it

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me.. "

You do know that undertakers remove the eyes don't you?

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me..

You do know that undertakers remove the eyes don't you?"

No they dont!

They place inserts on top of the eyes due to them sinking...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can take what they want from me, its no good to me so may as well make some use of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum drummed into us from early she was donating her body to medical science. When she died i was so close to not give the ok but did as it was her wish and really i was being selfish.

I am on organ donor list and whilst each have own _iews i think folk that do not are being a tad selfish. Would the same folk turn down organ transplant in the event of themselves or family member being in need of one, somehow i doubt it.

It should be case you have opt out of organ donation not opt in. What greater gift can there be than potentially saving soneone elses life after your own ends.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"My mum drummed into us from early she was donating her body to medical science. When she died i was so close to not give the ok but did as it was her wish and really i was being selfish.

I am on organ donor list and whilst each have own _iews i think folk that do not are being a tad selfish. Would the same folk turn down organ transplant in the event of themselves or family member being in need of one, somehow i doubt it.

It should be case you have opt out of organ donation not opt in. What greater gift can there be than potentially saving soneone elses life after your own ends."

I can empathise with your situation - really I can. That said, I feel it is taking away an element of my libery assuming that I am happy to be a donor and I would not subscribe to that system at all.

I feel I should have the choice to opt in - which is very unlikely in my and my family's case.

Also, I dont think you can simply label people as selfish if they choose to have a different stance.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

having donated a family members organs previously I can assure you that it is a very traumatic process .. the doctors who are performing each organ donation on the recipient have to take the organs out of the donor which you can imagine can take many hours for them all to fly to the particular hospital that you and your family are at.. you are then asked to witness the procedure to ensure that it is carried out in a dignified manner .. not pleasant at all at this devastating time so I fully understand people who have reservations about donation however, that said, we are pleased we did as a number of lives have been transformed as a consequence

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Despite being in favour of organ donation I don't think we should move to an 'opt-out' situation.

I would, however, remove the next of kin's right of veto. If someone has made the generous decision to donate, that should be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They can have anything apart from my eyes... they are the window to your soul.. I don't care if I am dead my eyes are staying with me..

I think the exact same thing... Spooky "

Me too

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By *igboy_1986Man
over a year ago

Worcester

Hope they don't take my penis :| but seriously good thread made me seriously think about signing up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it should be opt out if u don't then its considered ok to use your parts .

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By *eaverfeverCouple
over a year ago

nr Manchester

can you register online? Ive taken ten pints of blood from the stock so its only fare to give a little somthing back when im gone!

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By *ornieandhotCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough

I'm very grateful to everyone on the list at sometime in the future I am going to need a kidney transplant

So thank you everyone for making the chances of getting one a lot higher

D xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a nice organ that I'd be willing to donate to any ladies who would like to try it for themselves...just to be sure of a good fit...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to carry a Doner Card that stated that in the event of my death someone else was welcome to my kebab!

The it was replaced with an Organ Donor card that gave whoever found my corpse first dibs on my dick!

Now - fully signed up to the correct, genuine programme!

After all - none of me is any use to ME when I'm dead - so put me to good use if needed and cremate the rest!

And no smoking my ashes !!!

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I'm very grateful to everyone on the list at sometime in the future I am going to need a kidney transplant

So thank you everyone for making the chances of getting one a lot higher

D xxx"

wish you all the very best with that

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

I used to be involved with arranging transport for transplants, both patient and organ movements, and we used to be very quiet between Xmas and April as everywhere had used up all their budget. While I agree that an opt out system has the potential to clear the waiting lists as far as organs are concerned I don't believe the NHS could cope with the cost.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"having donated a family members organs previously "

You are a very brave person.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

What would worry me with the opt out system is the short time scale in which a decision has to be made - how would medical staff be sure that they are not taking organs from somebody who has not given consent? To me the assumption I am happy to be a donor unless proven otherwise does feel like an infringement on my rights.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"can you register online? Ive taken ten pints of blood from the stock so its only fare to give a little somthing back when im gone! "

Yes.

organdonation dot nhs dot uk

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

After my son had a heart op it made me realise what an important thing donation is and I've made sure all my family know that I want everything I can donate be done x

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"What would worry me with the opt out system is the short time scale in which a decision has to be made - how would medical staff be sure that they are not taking organs from somebody who has not given consent? To me the assumption I am happy to be a donor unless proven otherwise does feel like an infringement on my rights."

They would just check the register the same way they check now to see if you have opted in. The big problem now is that even if you are on the register they still have to get consent from next of kin at a very sad time,

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"What would worry me with the opt out system is the short time scale in which a decision has to be made - how would medical staff be sure that they are not taking organs from somebody who has not given consent? To me the assumption I am happy to be a donor unless proven otherwise does feel like an infringement on my rights.

They would just check the register the same way they check now to see if you have opted in. The big problem now is that even if you are on the register they still have to get consent from next of kin at a very sad time,"

So what you are saying is, they check against the register and if you have opted out then that is the end of it. If you have not really thought about it that would be taken as implied consent?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".............So what you are saying is, they check against the register and if you have opted out then that is the end of it. If you have not really thought about it that would be taken as implied consent? "

That's how I reckon it'd work. That's why I'm not sure it's the answer.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


".............So what you are saying is, they check against the register and if you have opted out then that is the end of it. If you have not really thought about it that would be taken as implied consent?

That's how I reckon it'd work. That's why I'm not sure it's the answer."

Apart from my own feelings and decision on this, I am wondering about the most people, young people going about their business not even remotely considering they might suddenly die. That is what I meant with not really having reflected on soemthing that may happen without consent if that makes sense.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"What would worry me with the opt out system is the short time scale in which a decision has to be made - how would medical staff be sure that they are not taking organs from somebody who has not given consent? To me the assumption I am happy to be a donor unless proven otherwise does feel like an infringement on my rights.

They would just check the register the same way they check now to see if you have opted in. The big problem now is that even if you are on the register they still have to get consent from next of kin at a very sad time,

So what you are saying is, they check against the register and if you have opted out then that is the end of it. If you have not really thought about it that would be taken as implied consent? "

But if it was an opt out system that was well publicised why would you not think about it? I can see that there would have to be safeguards for minors and other people that were deemed not fit to make a decision.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"What would worry me with the opt out system is the short time scale in which a decision has to be made - how would medical staff be sure that they are not taking organs from somebody who has not given consent? To me the assumption I am happy to be a donor unless proven otherwise does feel like an infringement on my rights.

They would just check the register the same way they check now to see if you have opted in. The big problem now is that even if you are on the register they still have to get consent from next of kin at a very sad time,

So what you are saying is, they check against the register and if you have opted out then that is the end of it. If you have not really thought about it that would be taken as implied consent?

But if it was an opt out system that was well publicised why would you not think about it? I can see that there would have to be safeguards for minors and other people that were deemed not fit to make a decision."

I am of course just talking about my perspective - I find it a bit unacceptable I guess that consent is assumed unless stated otherwise. It just does not sit right with me. Not just on this issue - but with any issue I think I want to be asked rather than having an assumption made about me. I think that is what bugs me really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If any guy wants to give me their Organ (especially large ones) then please contact me.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"If any guy wants to give me their Organ (especially large ones) then please contact me."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im dont have organ donor card and to my knowledge nor do my family. This will sound horrible but dont think i could give my childrens organs up should something happen, regarding me well I dont like the thought of it but if im no longer around then what my family decide to do with my organs will be their choice but they do know how i feel about it. selfish yes I guess so, but more freaked out by the thought than selfish

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By *hris N KateCouple
over a year ago

Gainesville

I do NOT want to go into detail as to how I know very much other then saying family works in the 'organ and tissue' industry.

Mainly I am shocked, here in the US family is not required to watch, to me that is wrong. Beyond that, don't go to an opt out system. People should make that choice, humans do not belong to the state and should not be treated that way.. just my opinion.

Now, to those that say their organs would be no good, generally donation is organ AND tissue, at least here, and you would be amazed at how much can be used beyond organs.. eye tissue is used in dental implants, almost any athlete having knee repair surgery is benefiting from a tissue donation from a deceased person. Its much more common then most realize. Also, athletes and extremely healthy people are often much harder on their body, a drug addict (provided no diseases are present) will tend to have much healthier tissue for donation because they loaf about on the couch instead of spending hours running, which DESTROYS joints, lol. It is very strange when you know about it from the other side.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Mainly I am shocked, here in the US family is not required to watch, to me that is wrong. Beyond that, don't go to an opt out system. People should make that choice, humans do not belong to the state and should not be treated that way.. just my opinion.

"
Spot on - I know now why I am uncomfortable with the idea - you have just put your finger on the file. Thanks

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By *win PeaksCouple
over a year ago

Northamptonshire


"im on the list and id like to think god forbid if anything happened to my children I would be happy for there organs to be used but in reality i dont know if I could .."

I think that decision should be made in the cold light of day and then stuck to rather than face that decision at the time of death when emotionally you would all over the place.

Dave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Despite being in favour of organ donation I don't think we should move to an 'opt-out' situation.

I would, however, remove the next of kin's right of veto. If someone has made the generous decision to donate, that should be it."

Definitely agree with this...Do think it needs to stay as opt in but don't agree that next of kin can say no to my wishes when I no longer have a say in it. I'm confident anything of mine that can be used after my death will be ok'd by my family as we are all on the list but I don't think it's fair that they have to effectively make that decision again when I'm gone x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"can you register online? Ive taken ten pints of blood from the stock so its only fare to give a little somthing back when im gone!

Yes.

organdonation dot nhs dot uk"

You can also add yourself to the register via your boots advantage card believe it or not...and I think more people are likely to carry that than a donor card myself. I'm on both lists to be on the safe side, I donate blood too and through that I'm on the bone marrow donor list too...I'm a very giving person!!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

I am of course just talking about my perspective - I find it a bit unacceptable I guess that consent is assumed unless stated otherwise. It just does not sit right with me. Not just on this issue - but with any issue I think I want to be asked rather than having an assumption made about me. I think that is what bugs me really?"

Hmm, that made me think.

Maybe I am just seeing this from my perspective i.e. once I'm dead it's just a piece of meat and if someone can use a bit then happy days.

Maybe opt in with no veto for the next of kin might be the way to go. That way it wouldn't have to be mentioned at the time and the team could just get on with it.

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