FabSwingers.com forum: Time to ban skirts,?

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that over 1100 incidents of so called upskirting which is mainly caused by men who use mobile phone cameras on unsuspecting women. This is since 2019 and a much of this happening in schools. Is it time to simply ban skirts in public to stop this happening,?

What's going on here? It's all over the news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban culture doesn't help anyone and again making women monitor their behaviour because people don't want to address the direct issue. Educate people and teach them the right path in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

or ban men with mobile phones?

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By *amie HantsWoman
over a year ago

Atlantis

"or ban men with mobile phones? "

It was about time you had a good idea.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"or ban men with mobile phones?

It was about time you had a good idea. "

But how do I then take a dick pic to send you? Come on think it through!

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

It’s an awful crime! But no point banning skirts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago

Boo's World

Thats me walking round for the rest of my life in my pants then as I don't wear trousers at all.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

What about banning skirts in schools

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Double the sentences and make the offender pay financial compensation to the victim in all cases more like.

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

Lets put a chip in our brains so that all men can be monitored...... Its the way forward

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges "

Isn't that the stance with some countries and religions.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Fuck no.

I'm not spending a fortune on custom made trousers for my absurd legs.

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan
over a year ago

A den in the Glen

My old boss (ish) was given a suspended sentence for doing this. He then fixed a camera to his car grill and parked near playgrounds. Disgusting fucker. On jail now but it won't be long until he comes out and does some other shit like that.

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges

Isn't that the stance with some countries and religions. "

Sadly yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges "

Grim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or report perverts who think it is okay..

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

"Or report perverts who think it is okay.. "

I won’t even watch upskirt videos even if they are staged. It’s shouldn’t be encorouged

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"Double the sentences and make the offender pay financial compensation to the victim in all cases more like. "

Certain actions and crimes in these kinds of situations I think should have extreme punishments and sentences. Problem is having enough proof for it to not be abused and used to wrongfully accuse.

They are things that you quite clearly need to go out of your way to do, with clear intentions and no grey area. There is no mistake what they were doing/did. None of this misinterpreted actions, words, or touching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"or ban men with mobile phones?

It was about time you had a good idea.

But how do I then take a dick pic to send you? Come on think it through!"

Duh.

You come to mine, and I take them!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well if it's a very long skirt it's difficult to do accidently but what about if it's so short and more of a belt than a skirt and you can see the knickers even when they are not bent over. What then?

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"What about banning skirts in schools"

What about chemical castration for the men, who cannot fight the urge to do it

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

That doesn't give someone the right to take photos of someone to jerk off to later without consent

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Well if it's a very long skirt it's difficult to do accidently but what about if it's so short and more of a belt than a skirt and you can see the knickers even when they are not bent over. What then?"
what do you mean what then.. thought we had moved away from where how someone was dressed, negated others from needing to behave like a decent human

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood

This behaviour is something i find difficult to understand what gratification is?

Your on a beach with women in bikinis you put a skirt on and somehow becomes sexual.?-)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

I believe this is what's known as taking the piss!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let’s not.

Instead we can teach those men how not to be fucking creeps.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd be amongst the protesters refusing to comply, if ever skirts were banned. Perhaps AI in phones could restrict the behaviour, it does increasingly most other things

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Had a guy up skirt me recently and he lost his shit when he realised I was a trans

. Guess he didn’t like my jockstrap underneath my denim skirt

He got rinsed publicly and his phone fell against the floor .

Best way to deal with them if you catch them

Filming is snatch their phone off them and run to nearest shop / security person

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Point out the ease with which it's possible to just not take photos then make the low life responsible wear a short skirt and knickers at all times for a month after banning them from owning a camera phone for life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, ban sleazy men who are taking pics of women up their skirts"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reports that over 1100 incidents of so called upskirting which is mainly caused by men who use mobile phone cameras on unsuspecting women. This is since 2019 and a much of this happening in schools. Is it time to simply ban skirts in public to stop this happening,?

What's going on here? It's all over the news"

Nope

It's easy. If you know a 'male' that behaves that way and upskirts, or any other abusive, preditory behaviour, you call him out. You make him accountable for his actions.

It's not the womans/girls fault or her skirts fault.

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By *irexMan
over a year ago

Hertford

Make the perpetrator spend some time inside with other nonces and get put on the register - make them realise that this is sexual assault.

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By *archelCouple
over a year ago

A field somewhere

Time for the police to investigate properly instead of just giving a crime number.

Also time for the law to change so that the cps can hand down a harsher sentence.

Non consensual perversion is only one small step away from more heinous crimes.

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan
over a year ago

A den in the Glen

"This behaviour is something i find difficult to understand what gratification is?

Your on a beach with women in bikinis you put a skirt on and somehow becomes sexual.?-)

Bang on.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

This is happening in schools, these boys or young men need dealing with. Many young girls and women are wearing shorts under skirts which is a sad sign of male behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about banning skirts in schools"

What about teaching men not to be dicks?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

1100 case's.

3.8 billion women in the world do you not think banning skirts is a slight overreaction?

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Sounds like horny teenager's up to no good ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck no.

I'm not spending a fortune on custom made trousers for my absurd legs."

They don’t look that bad

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"1100 case's.

3.8 billion women in the world do you not think banning skirts is a slight overreaction?"

This is Tom's topic. Reset those expectations.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"Fuck no.

I'm not spending a fortune on custom made trousers for my absurd legs.

They don’t look that bad

They look fucking amazing.

But try buying something that looks good off the rack with an excessive hip to waist ratio and legs that leave 36 inch inside leg lengths flapping around the ankles.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Double the sentences and make the offender pay financial compensation to the victim in all cases more like. "

If someone is addicted to a behaviour increasing sentences won't stop it.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

"Sounds like horny teenager's up to no good ..

Why are you making it sound like nothing. So, if males are horny is it acceptable?

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges "

Just ask the taliban for tips on that

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"I cannot believe what I’m reading in the OP

Time to ban skirts because men are upskirting? Is everyone quite alright?

It’s like telling woman to dress in a conservative way so that men can control their urges

Just ask the taliban for tips on that

or any other hardcore regime like Iran,where they have been shooting women that won't comply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we missing the satire behind this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My old boss (ish) was given a suspended sentence for doing this. He then fixed a camera to his car grill and parked near playgrounds. Disgusting fucker. On jail now but it won't be long until he comes out and does some other shit like that. "

Jesus Christ….(Vomits violently)

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Are we missing the satire behind this?

If your sat behind someone you'll miss the upskirt.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"1100 case's.

3.8 billion women in the world do you not think banning skirts is a slight overreaction?

This is Tom's topic. Reset those expectations."

Well it's 1100 cases in England so not comparable with the world female population.

Not sure aboutScottish figures which may affect me in kilts

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"What about banning skirts in schools"

Sounds like the problem is schools Tom- shut em down!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Are we missing the satire behind this?

If we are talking klts in Scotland then surely it's the saltire

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Tighter skirts solve the problem maybe

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"Are we missing the satire behind this?

If we are talking klts in Scotland then surely it's the saltire"

Ba-boom tish! Tom did a funny

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Cancel the skirt

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

This happened at my daughters school.

Girls all have to wear trousers as part of the uniform.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

I blame the technology in conjunction with the crudity of certain men and boys.

It is so easy nowadays. In the past, men had to wear highly polished black shoes to use as a mirror. The reason given was so that you could see your face to shave but we all know the truth...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about we just ban men? Problem solved

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Pencil skirts ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about we just ban men? Problem solved

Careful. They don’t like this talk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about we just ban men? Problem solved

Careful. They don’t like this talk"

I don’t care. I don’t like sex pests and victim blaming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about we just ban men? Problem solved

Careful. They don’t like this talk

I don’t care. I don’t like sex pests and victim blaming

I think I might be in love with you. Idk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about we just ban men? Problem solved

Careful. They don’t like this talk

I don’t care. I don’t like sex pests and victim blaming

I think I might be in love with you. Idk "

Bout time someone fell for my charms

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Is Sharon Stone to blame ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's going on here? It's all over the news"

Yes! Trousers to the ankles, long sleeved tops fastened to the neck. Women are just too sexual these days.

Let the cock pics out but hide the female legs!

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

What's going on here? It's all over the news

Yes! Trousers to the ankles, long sleeved tops fastened to the neck. Women are just too sexual these days.

Let the cock pics out but hide the female legs!"
. I do love a sexy pair of pins ...

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Probably best if we ban women.

No more problems caused by women.

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By *ukkakelovingwifeWoman
over a year ago

twickenham

pointless post you cant dictate what woman wear just because of sexual predators which they are next the op will say shall we ban woman from going out because of rapists

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London

I think kids should not be allowed to take smart phones to schools. Just let them have a phone which allows them make phone calls. There is no need for internet or camera.

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

People should be able to wear what they want without sexually repressed creeps trying to take pictures

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Just ban idiots ..

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

I attended a wedding a short while back, where I wore the kilt. A friend did the usual 'are you a real Scotsman?' thing, lifting it for a good close peek which she very much got. I didn't mind at all - indeed, it was a good fifteen minutes before my sporan returned to true vertical.

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By *acDreamyMan
over a year ago

Wirral

Get an AI algorithm to detect if a phone is being used in this way and automatically send the evidence to the police.

I think people would soon think twice.

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By *jay1975Man
over a year ago

London / Barcelona

"This is happening in schools, these boys or young men need dealing with. Many young girls and women are wearing shorts under skirts which is a sad sign of male behaviour."

Also a sign of lack of choice, where uniform codes insist upon skirts for girls.

Anyway, who set the expectation of how school girls should look, do we think it was the matriarchy?

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By *edheadsruleCouple
over a year ago

lancashire

"Thats me walking round for the rest of my life in my pants then as I don't wear trousers at all. "

Snap

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By *jphotMan
over a year ago

Stourbridge

"Ban culture doesn't help anyone and again making women monitor their behaviour because people don't want to address the direct issue. Educate people and teach them the right path in life."

Exactly... you said what I wanted too, but in a way I would have struggled too. Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah Tom you are so wise. Banning skirts is the answer to this problem.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Ah Tom you are so wise. Banning skirts is the answer to this problem."

Tom does not describe himself as wise although many have described him in those terms. It's about being modest and not putting oneself on a pedestal.

He is happy to guide on matters if asked privately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ah Tom you are so wise. Banning skirts is the answer to this problem.

Tom does not describe himself as wise although many have described him in those terms. It's about being modest and not putting oneself on a pedestal.

He is happy to guide on matters if asked privately"

When you put yourself on a pedestal like this Tom, I can see right up your skirt.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"Probably best if we ban women.

No more problems caused by women.

But who will wash up and do the hoovering?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thats me walking round for the rest of my life in my pants then as I don't wear trousers at all. "

Sounds like a good reason to ban skirts

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Skirt and sum knee high boots yum yum

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Should they be banned just in schools ? Until they become adults and make their own decisions ,?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do men have this problem in Scotland?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Do men have this problem in Scotland?"

Tom has no doubt

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By *evils PuddingCouple
over a year ago

the pub or in the nude in Paisley

"Do men have this problem in Scotland?"

Girls always want to see what's under the kilt! Luckily this quite excites the man who then has a chubby he's proud to show.

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By *odgerMooreMan
over a year ago

Fulwood

What's going on here? It's all over the news"

If instead of using a camera ( which orovides a permanent record of the image). He went and lifted her skirt to have a look or bent down to look up her skirt - im pretty sure thats an offence that may put the offender on a register… same with up skirting - people - mainly men i would guess but not universally guaranteed - need to realise its not harmless fun and it causes real distress and they have to be punished and with a punishment which also provides for a deterrent against others thinking - its a laugh or no harm done.. its not a laugh for the victim and there is harm done. Time to either grow up and respect others right to privacy or suffer the inevitable consequences - especially when you try to get a job or move into an area and people know you’re a registered sex offender - not a laugh then is it? Its very twatty behaviour!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do men have this problem in Scotland?

Girls always want to see what's under the kilt! Luckily this quite excites the man who then has a chubby he's proud to show."

I can’t imagine that’s a pretty sight.

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By *estinysswingersCouple
over a year ago

Worsley

Time to ban perverts who can’t obey the law.

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By *lay 4 your plessureMan
over a year ago

Wigan

All these answers to try and stop one type of crime, it's all a bit too simplistic really. Why not look at the bigger picture and instead of banning skirts/men/women or whatever, just eradicate all humam life instead and stop all crime, problem solved!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

So what is the answer here guys ?

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By *ersiantugMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

If we ban Tom it will be less all over Fab for sure! pt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give the little perverted idiots a tougher sentence, I actually struggle to understand the mindset of these scum bags, look online if that’s what you are into, do they not get little red flags popping up as they have those thoughts and urges. Weirdos

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By *erces LetiferMan
over a year ago

Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters

"So what is the answer here guys ?"

If it were me running the school? Hmm, how about; anyone caught doing it would be banned from having their mobile phone on them whilst on school premises. Hand in to reception in the morning, collect from reception at home time. In addition, anyone caught have their school photo / mugshot added to the Wall of Shame, for all in school to see.

I reckon that might be a deterrent?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"If we ban Tom it will be less all over Fab for sure! pt"

Peoples are saying things

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"Time for the police to investigate properly instead of just giving a crime number."

Perhaps if the current government stopped giving their cronies millions for bogus PPE contracts or non existent ferries, they could properly fund public services like the police? Mind you, even then, some crimes will remain unsolvable.

"Also time for the law to change so that the cps can hand down a harsher sentence."

The CPS don't hand down any sentences. They act as the prosecutor (clues in the name). Magistrates or Judges hand down sentences. Under current legislation, you can go to prison for two years for this, and in some circumstances, be placed onto the Sex Offenders Register.

You're right about the chances of escalation though.

Tom, who's been to Essex. You asked about short skirts were underwear is easily visible? This law only applies to underwear or body parts that would not normally be visible. So if someone is deliberately displaying themselves, this legislation wouldn't come into force.

You're very welcome.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Time for the police to investigate properly instead of just giving a crime number.

You

Also time for the law to change so that the cps can hand down a harsher sentence.

You're right about the chances of escalation though.

You're very welcome.

Gbat "

You again?

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By *orillaman32Man
over a year ago

Christchurch

Yes, let's victim blame.

'we know there's people (mainly men) who know it's wrong, but we don't want to fix that. Instead, let's stop people (mostly women) wearing their choice of clothes'

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By *orillaman32Man
over a year ago

Christchurch

Basically, don't take a picture.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"You again?"

Yes! My name is at the top of the post and because some apparently struggle with that level of identification, I also add Gbat as a little signature at the end.

What's going on Tom? It's all over my post!

Gbat (see? Here it is).

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"You again?

Yes! My name is at the top of the post and because some apparently struggle with that level of identification, I also add Gbat as a little signature at the end.

What's going on Tom? It's all over my post!

Gbat (see? Here it is). "